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I'm Canadian, and I have an Android phone already. I think the Nook Color could be an appealing budget tablet option while I wait for more impressive hardware to come out at a good price. I'll be visiting the States in two weeks.
Considerations:
- I probably won't be able to actually buy Nook eBooks from Canada with a Canadian billing address. Google Books is ruled out too. Should I install the Kindle app on here if I want to buy books?
- If many of the built in features just aren't meant for Canadians, most of the functionality I'll get out of it will come from hacking. What are the limits of what I can do with this device while keeping it relatively stable?
- If I've played with other tablets in stores, and I own an Android phone, is there anything I'm likely to find disappointing about the NC "experience"?
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cmstlist said:
I'm Canadian, and I have an Android phone already. I think the Nook Color could be an appealing budget tablet option while I wait for more impressive hardware to come out at a good price. I'll be visiting the States in two weeks.
Considerations:
- I probably won't be able to actually buy Nook eBooks from Canada with a Canadian billing address. Google Books is ruled out too. Should I install the Kindle app on here if I want to buy books?
- If many of the built in features just aren't meant for Canadians, most of the functionality I'll get out of it will come from hacking. What are the limits of what I can do with this device while keeping it relatively stable?
- If I've played with other tablets in stores, and I own an Android phone, is there anything I'm likely to find disappointing about the NC "experience"?
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Well as far as comparing it to other tablets, Keep in mind, no GPS, and as of right now no Bluetooth, (Bluetooth might change later if the devs can get it working physically its there and wired)
With 2.1 rooted you can still used Locations Services Via Wifi all be it less accurate.
As far as Performance I found nothing that was not playable on the Nook color, and if you overclock it to 1.1ghz its a even smoother experience. Granted the current state of the 3d on the nook is not great, and there are faster tablets and phones but all the games I have played are enjoyable.
Once cyanogenmod 7 comes out for it you will see even better performance,
Kinda App is always a option many people are using it. There is also Aldiko for ebooks on android, It has some sort of built in Store, but I've never used it and I don't where it runs through or if it will work in Canada,
cmstlist said:
I'm Canadian, and I have an Android phone already. I think the Nook Color could be an appealing budget tablet option while I wait for more impressive hardware to come out at a good price. I'll be visiting the States in two weeks.
Considerations:
- I probably won't be able to actually buy Nook eBooks from Canada with a Canadian billing address. Google Books is ruled out too. Should I install the Kindle app on here if I want to buy books?
- If many of the built in features just aren't meant for Canadians, most of the functionality I'll get out of it will come from hacking. What are the limits of what I can do with this device while keeping it relatively stable?
- If I've played with other tablets in stores, and I own an Android phone, is there anything I'm likely to find disappointing about the NC "experience"?
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If you put in a us address B&N still allows the CC to work from Canada...
I don't mean to rain down on Canadoc, but are you putting in a US billing address for your credit card (which I'm assuming is Canadian)?
Or is it just a canadian address for registration?
I put in my canadian address, and aside from instore purchases, I can properly register my Nook.
I recently grabbed the Nook from across the border (helps to live in Windsor). If you buy one now, you can get any case at 30% off.
I've found that the kindle App works fine on the Nook colour and has pretty much the same books available, BUT I find that the B&N reader nicer when it comes to navigation.
I've only had mine for the past few days, but aside from nook purchases, you won't really miss much on the nook.
I only did the base 1.01 autonooter to 1.1.0 nooded update, and I haven't found much stability issues. Everythings works great.
There are some software compatibility issues (Button Saviour), but for the most part, it works well for a tablet. I haven't OC'd it yet....going on a long trip, so I want battery life.
Some Dissapointments:
- I have yet to find a PDF viewer that I really like. The quickpdf that comes with the Nook softare is quite speedy, but has vertical scrolling only. I've yet to try out repligo (I've heard it's great, and does annotations).
-You can't create folders
- some of the live walpapers don't work
I second therealguppy on the gps and bluetooth. If you can live without them, it's cool.
But other than that, it's a solid tablet for $250.
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I don't mean to rain down on Canadoc, but are you putting in a US billing address for your credit card (which I'm assuming is Canadian)?
Or is it just a canadian address for registration?
I put in my canadian address, and aside from instore purchases, I can properly register my Nook.
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Put in a US address as my billing shipping address.Purchases work fine
Just picked up my NC down in LA over the weekend. Now happily using it in Toronto.
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- I probably won't be able to actually buy Nook eBooks from Canada with a Canadian billing address. Google Books is ruled out too. Should I install the Kindle app on here if I want to buy books?
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I didn't bother with the B&N store aside from registering (without CC) - from what I understand that's a required step for rooting it.
I have the Kindle app installed on multiple devices (Android, iOS, and desktop) and am very happy with it on the NC. Someone mentioned installing the Kobo reader on the NC, but the Kindle store has every title I can imagine wanting...
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- If many of the built in features just aren't meant for Canadians, most of the functionality I'll get out of it will come from hacking. What are the limits of what I can do with this device while keeping it relatively stable?
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Full Android tablet experience (sans GPS). Auto-root it, install a good home app (I use Zeam), and install awayyyyyy. Very stable using Firefox, Rock Player, Mail, YouTube (get the HD Evo version) etc etc.
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- If I've played with other tablets in stores, and I own an Android phone, is there anything I'm likely to find disappointing about the NC "experience"?
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Not that I have come across - it's actually more stable than my almost-stock Wind Motorola XT702. With some tweaks (softkeys app, good home app, maybe screen density tweak) it's a very nice 7" tablet.
Regarding the lack of GPS - does wi-fi geolocation work in Google Maps? Or does it after any modifications?
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Regarding the lack of GPS - does wi-fi geolocation work in Google Maps? Or does it after any modifications?
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Works fine for me - street view even put me right outside my office.
Probably wouldn't want to use it for nav
Well seeing as I'd be tethering it to an Android of its own, I think I can get by without tablet nav
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My HTC Aria was stolen last night, so I'm in the market for a new phone. I was pretty happy with the Aria, but I'm checking out some other options to see if I want to stick with it or not. The Captivate is on my list to check out..
1) Is the Captivate currently rootable with the latest stock ROM?
2) The Captivate comes with Swype, correct?
3) What are the big issues/annoyances with the Captivate (if any)?
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My HTC Aria was stolen last night, so I'm in the market for a new phone. I was pretty happy with the Aria, but I'm checking out some other options to see if I want to stick with it or not. The Captivate is on my list to check out..
1) Is the Captivate currently rootable with the latest stock ROM?
2) The Captivate comes with Swype, correct?
3) What are the big issues/annoyances with the Captivate (if any)?
Thanks!
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1. Yes
2. You can install swype on it (duno if it comes with it)
3. Only annoying thing is no front camera
Now, as for the cappy, the really interesting thing is that there is alot of custom ROMs (both 2.2 and 2.3 based) which improves both your phone's perfomance and experience
1. Yes.
2. Yes.
3. some older builds can have a random shut down issue, and some have a gps that isn't very accurate, both issues are known and will get you a replacement from att if you have them.
If you like the underpowered aria the captivate will feel like a muscle car after driving a camry.
Also a quick read through of the stickies, and then maybe a search, probably would've answered these questions.
I looked at a few of the stickies, but the big question (whether it can still be rooted or if the 2.2 update from AT&T has blocked rooting) isn't really evident in them. Kinda hard to find a post that makes this clear..
Anyway, I was comparing between the Inspire, Captivate, and Atrix. I went to an AT&T store during lunch and ruled out the Inspire because it's too big.
I'm leaning towards the Captivate. The Atrix has more pizzaz, but as I see it, it would cost about $200 above what I can sell my replacement Aria for. My contract expires next summer, and I might be changing carriers then, so I'd only get a year's use out of the Atrix before I'll be upgrading to something else anyway.
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I looked at a few of the stickies, but the big question (whether it can still be rooted or if the 2.2 update from AT&T has blocked rooting) isn't really evident in them. Kinda hard to find a post that makes this clear..
Anyway, I was comparing between the Inspire, Captivate, and Atrix. I went to an AT&T store during lunch and ruled out the Inspire because it's too big.
I'm leaning towards the Captivate. The Atrix has more pizzaz, but as I see it, it would cost about $200 above what I can sell my replacement Aria for. My contract expires next summer, and I might be changing carriers then, so I'd only get a year's use out of the Atrix before I'll be upgrading to something else anyway.
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Yes, the captivate can be very easely rooted using superoneclick for both 2.1 and 2.2.
And I believe the atrix has locked bootloaders, making it a ***** and a half to even root...
Ok, well I was leaning towards the Captivate, but the GPS issues have me spooked.
I went through the "GPS performance" sticky, and GPS related posts on the first 15 pages, and I couldn't find any clear solution (software, or certain builds) for the GPS issue. The only "fix" seems to be warranty replacement, which won't be available to me since I'll have to buy second hand.
Did I miss something?
There is a few gps fixes floating around the dev section.
I never use gps so I couldn't tell you how effective they are personally but from what i hear they work well.
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Ok, well I was leaning towards the Captivate, but the GPS issues has me spooked.
I went through the "GPS performance" sticky, and GPS related posts on the first 15 pages, and I couldn't find any clear solution (software, or certain builds) for the GPS issue. The only "fix" seems to be warranty replacement, which won't be available to me since I'll have to buy second hand.
Did I miss something?
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GPS on stock is really not good. It has to do with the case design being as thin as it is.
However, the phone is amazing how easy it is to root and to install custom ROMs. As stated above, there are a couple of GPS fixes that can help and a lot of the ROMs have them added. One is at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=957164 and the other is at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=959671.
Using these have really helped with GPS for me and I have had great success keeping a lock and being accurate.
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Ok, well I was leaning towards the Captivate, but the GPS issues has me spooked.
I went through the "GPS performance" sticky, and GPS related posts on the first 15 pages, and I couldn't find any clear solution (software, or certain builds) for the GPS issue. The only "fix" seems to be warranty replacement, which won't be available to me since I'll have to buy second hand.
Did I miss something?
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so I had horrable gps but got gingerbread flashed and now it is spot on and better than my fiance's slow as the hills aria
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Ok, well I was leaning towards the Captivate, but the GPS issues has me spooked.
I went through the "GPS performance" sticky, and GPS related posts on the first 15 pages, and I couldn't find any clear solution (software, or certain builds) for the GPS issue. The only "fix" seems to be warranty replacement, which won't be available to me since I'll have to buy second hand.
Did I miss something?
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So I had bad gps but with gingerbread it is spot on (better than fiance's aria)
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so I had horrable gps but got gingerbread flashed and now it is spot on and better than my fiance's slow as the hills aria
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In the threads I've read, the success of various ROM's, software fixes and phone builds is totally inconsistent. I haven't found anything where more than one or two people say "yes, this worked for me...".. I would think that if there was a fix that worked consistently, it would be in one of the stickies, no? Again, did I miss something in one of those threads?
I agree with the others. The GPS isn't much of an issue really. If it's bad, use the fixes. If not, you're good. Other than that, the phone is great. The dev support for the cappy is great, you won't be disappointed.
I would suggest to maybe wait for the Infuse 4G, with it's super amoled plus goodness and faster processor, but if the inspire is too big, then the 4.5 inch screen on the infuse is even bigger. However, with how thin these new phones are, I think you would be surprised to find that you don't really notice the extra size, as my captivate is less noticable in my pocket than my iphone 3g was, because even though the size is bigger, the thin captivate doesn't bulge out in my pocket nearly as much. Also, pretty much any phone is going to seem big compared to your aria, but extra screen real estate is definitely a huge plus.
The GPS will never be perfect, but the phone is amazing as long as you get into flashing.
By the time your contract is up, there actually might be even something better on the horizon. From my guess, with the samsung galaxy s 2 coming there, there are going to be updated samsung galaxy s phones on all carriers. The captivate 2, the epic 2, etc. So just be on the look out.
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The other nice feature the Captivate has is 16GB of internal memory before you add a microSD card. The other Galaxy S phones like Verizon's and Sprint's don't have that internal memory.
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The GPS will never be perfect, but the phone is amazing as long as you get into flashing.
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My GPS on perception 2b2 (gingerbread) is more accurate then my wife gps and it is with google navigation so it will be perfect when you ditch froyo
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I'm running the Mosaic ROM, it's based on Gingerbread 2.3.3 and my phone basically works perfect. The GPS locks 10-20 seconds, it's more accurate then it's ever been. I had Google Navigation running for 2 hours the other day and it was spot on the entire trip. It showed me right on the road, not off in a field, when I'd pass a road it'd show it on the GPS. I was pretty amazed. No random shutdowns, no weird home buttons freaking out, no other weird ****.
I was wanting to see about having my dad get a Galaxy S II and then swap them. But after how awesome my captivate is running I don't really want to let it go now.
GPS since using TeamPhoenix roms has been great.
Usually 16ft accuracy and good tracking.
Padfone or G-Nexus-7 combination
I've been using a SIM-free (unlocked and rooted) Motorola Atrix 4G with the lapdock everyday as my "daily-driver" phone/laptop solution since April of last year. I used the webtop, and later on, a modded version of Gentoo with Google Docs and Libre Office to get things done. I work at a university, so if I need something other than regular office software, I just use one of the hundreds of workstations I have access to on our campuses-- I've never experienced the so-called limitations that the lapdock+phone combo presents, and the fact that I ride very crowded trains in Tokyo precludes me from bringing my $1500+ laptop around everyday.
So when the Asus Padfone came out, I was sure that this would be my upgrade path! A phone that goes into a tablet that clips onto a keyboard. Brilliant! But hang on-- now there's the Nexus 7... Pure Google, and OPEN... That plus a Galaxy-Nexus... hmmmmm.... Could that also do the trick??
Well, there's always "let's wait and see a few more months..." But the obvious happened a week ago-- my Atrix's screen gave up the ghost... Sure I can plug it into HDMI, and use the lapdock just fine, but I can't use it as a phone... GRRRR!! Oh, and check out my location to the left-- I live in JAPAN, but I travel a lot, and go back to the US every year; actually, I'm going home in a week for a month!! So I NEED a phone either just before I go, or when I get there....
REQUIREMENTS:
- SIM Free (unlocked): I travel. A lot. Internationally. I needs my unlock!
- Multi-band support: Japan uses 2100MHz for HSPA+, and so does most of Asia. The US is 850, 1900, 1700... I'd like to find a phone that supports both of these... The Padfone will only support the Asian frequency, but nothing in the States-- I'd be stuck on 2G back home for a month... I can tolerate that though because I'll at least have AT&T hotspot support. The G-Nexus of course has a PENTABAND 3G radio (why the F don't other phones <other than the iPhone> have this same radio?!) so it'll work with whatever network I throw at it.
- Open bootloader/Rooted: One of the things I really enjoyed about my Atrix was being able to tweak tweak tweak. The Nexus devices don't need an explanation here-- They're designed to root and tweak. The Padfone can be rooted now--but it's bootloader is locked... But with the exotic tweaks made to get the tablet and phone UI to work, I doubt I'd use a custom ROM anyhow.
- Tablet/Phone combo: I got spoiled by my Atrix. Being able to use a physical keyboard to respond to an incoming text message is really habit-forming. Especially if I need to type it in Japanese. Of course the Padfone would win here... Not sure if there's an app that lets you see the text and MMSs on a phone through a tablet though. The other obvious thing here is that the Padphone *IS* the tablet, once docked into the PadStation. No tethering, no separate data plan, no hotspot needed. The G-Nexus-7 combo would see me tethering the G-Nex to the Nex-7. Is there a simple app that can make an on-demand data connection between the two happen at will?
- Updates: This is what pissed me off about Motorola. The OG Atrix's Tegra 2 processor can more than handle ICS, but here it is almost 6 months later, and nothing. Luckily I can get Kang builds, but certain things just don't work for me--for example Chrome crashes ALL the time. Camera sucks, etc. Hence, I'm over using another Moto device. Obviously the Nexus duo will ALWAYS get the latest and greatest; no-brainer there. Asus? The TF series got their updates to ICS within the first 3 months IIRC. Since Jelly Bean is just a point update, perhaps the Padfone will see an update in the fall sometime--I can live with that.
- Ease of use: Not the OS, but the physical pieces... The G-Nex-7 combo is easy in the way that both are able to use the same charger (micro USB). Padfone just nests together. I like how the Padfone keyboard has USB ports and an SD card slot... Not to mentin BATTERIES galore. It's hard as hell trying to find a place to charge my phone all the time, and sometimes I'd just use the Moto's lapdock as a battery charger!
- Price: this is the kicker... The Galaxy Nexus/ Nexus 7 Combo will come out to less than US$600 when bought from the Google store. Even buying from a grey-market distributor in Taiwan, I can't buy the Padfone/PadStation/Keyboard combo for less that US$1000... I have barely that much to spend though.
Friends, I need some help deciding! Here are my pros and cons for each device as it stands today. I'm posting this in the Padfone, Galaxy Nexus, Nexus 7, and my old Motorola Atrix forums as well. I want some good honest and thoughtful opinions-- no haterism, flaming, or retardedness please. This is an extremely important purchase for me, and needs to be done ASAP.
As always, thank you so much for your opinions!
Your answer is in the OP. You're welcome.
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Not sure if there's an app that lets you see the text and MMSs on a phone through a tablet though
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.apdroid.tabtalk
And if you need a physical keyboard you can get a compact Bluetooth one off eBay for like $35 (maybe less?)
I own the Prime. Asus is TERRIBLE with their software support. Absolutely terrible. Go with the Nexus and enjoy quality software support from Google.
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.apdroid.tabtalk
And if you need a physical keyboard you can get a compact Bluetooth one off eBay for like $35 (maybe less?)
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Thanx for that app tip! That's going on the "save" list. I can go to Akihabara (the famous Tokyo electronics shopping area) and get one for maybe even less--that's definitely part of my solution if I do the G-Nex-7 thing.
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I own the Prime. Asus is TERRIBLE with their software support. Absolutely terrible. Go with the Nexus and enjoy quality software support from Google.
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And I've heard about ASUS's bad support at times... One of the reasons I switched from using an HP laptop to an Apple one, was because I can walk into any Apple store worldwide and get help with it. (I'm just as mad about them suing everyone into oblivion, and I'm not that flattered with iOS the way I am with Android, but I loves me some OSX for sure.)
Keep the opinions coming y'all. Thanx!
I've owned more than enough Android devices and the thing that always leaves me disenchanted with them in the end is the update fragmentation. I have the n7 on preorder and my x2 is set to be replaced by the g-nex in August. This is just my opinion but I think it's insane that I have to keep flashing roms that may or may not have all of my hardware working correctly just to get an update. Nexus devices represent what I feel google should have done at Androids launch to combat Apple. I plan to use my n7 as an iPad alternative until Windows Surface launches and I can get a tab with fully featured office for productivity.
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nyijedi said:
I own the Prime. Asus is TERRIBLE with their software support. Absolutely terrible. Go with the Nexus and enjoy quality software support from Google.
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Ya i've been waiting for the new asus infinity to come out but i know it will never get updated and i can at least get a bluetooth keyboard or some extra keyboard hooked up to the nexus 7 and type away
Gnex + N7 combo hands down.
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Gnex + N7 combo hands down.
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Nexcellent said:
Gnex + N7 combo hands down.
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Exactly this. If for nothing else, these two solid reasons:
A GNex + a Nexus 7 are cheaper than a Padfone
And the battery on the GSM model of the GNex is excellent compared to its LTE counterpart.
Treat yourself to some delicious Jelly Bean. =]
Not to mention, you can just buy the $70 3800mAh extended battery from Seidio with NFC if you are worried about battery life, and you'll still be paying way less than the Padfone. I ordered one for my dad's Verizon GNex the other day, and will finally be able to put in his phone when he comes home on sunday, since no other battery has been good enough, even with the Gummy ROM on his phone. =[
Hmm. Good point. One of my main concerns is battery life since I'll be tethering with this combo a lot. I forgot the NFC chip is in the battery and not the body... also I wonder if NFC is compatible with the Felicia systems used here in Japan for things like train passes and e-money.... the phone I'm using now has it... not a necessity though.
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seff5677 said:
Ya i've been waiting for the new asus infinity to come out but i know it will never get updated and i can at least get a bluetooth keyboard or some extra keyboard hooked up to the nexus 7 and type away
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I wouldn't just worry about timely updates. I'd worry about decent performance. My Prime is a quad core device and it sucks total ass at playing games, browsing, and just about everything else. Constant lags and crashes. It's enraging. Do yourself a favor and stay away from Asus devices (the Nexus 7 will likely be different since it's a google device). You'll save yourself some huge headaches.
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I think it's incredibly odd that there is so much Asus hate yet the N7 is an Asus device itself. Performance-wise with the N7, i'd imagine apps would perform similarly to the transformer prime seeing as it uses the same processor...
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I think it's incredibly odd that there is so much Asus hate yet the N7 is an Asus device itself. Performance-wise with the N7, i'd imagine apps would perform similarly to the transformer prime seeing as it uses the same processor...
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The reason for the Asus hate is not their hardware, it's how they bloat up the OS after google passes it off to them. With the n7 Asus has nothing to do with the OS, they just make the hardware.
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So far most responses seem to support the Nexus combo.
I, however, when reading how you use your devices was thinking PadFone all the way. It seems like a better fit for you.
But just my 2 cents.
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So far most responses seem to support the Nexus combo.
I, however, when reading how you use your devices was thinking PadFone all the way. It seems like a better fit for you.
But just my 2 cents.
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The problem is, I think most of the benefits he would get from the padfone would be too minor to justify a $300-$400 price premium. And I am also not sure how well the phone part of it does by itself etc, Ive yet to check some reviews of the padfone. For all that extra money he could by himself some nice cases, screen protectors, bluetooth headsets etc. Even a pack of those little nfc coin things he might be able to put to good use.
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I think it's incredibly odd that there is so much Asus hate yet the N7 is an Asus device itself. Performance-wise with the N7, i'd imagine apps would perform similarly to the transformer prime seeing as it uses the same processor...
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Believe me, I was super pissed when word leaked that Asus was making the Nexus tablet. I'm not buying one solely for that reason. However, I do think the N7 should be okay since Google is taking care of the software instead of Asus and oversaw the hardware. Asus is completely incompetent. Google is not.
And as a Prime owner, if apps on the N7 perform similarly as the Prime, I'd suggest throwing it in the garbage. All browsers, Google Earth, tegra games - they're god awful on the Prime. Some of them are literally unusable. With that said, I'm sure apps on the N7 will run great thanks to Google.
Have I mentioned how awful Asus is?
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I also use the Atrix + Laprtock as my entire molbile solution. And this includes "real" work which needs substantial typeing and screen real estate.
For me, dropping down to 10 inch would be a killer. I have tried using 10 inch netbooks, and it is a real pain. But maybe the OP can get away with this (younger eyes on a higher res screan, perhaps smaller fingers/hands).
But no way in the world can one work like this on a 7 inch screen.
If one is using the pair for light browsing + media then I cerrtainly see the GN + N7 as a sound choice. But for a working laptop replacement, not for me. Alas I am not certain a padphone works either (though I like the concept). I would certainly be concerned about the phone itself (there are a lot of deatils in this area that do not show up in specs, ask Apple).
A shame the OP just busted his scrreen. I suspect the right answer is to wait several months.
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I also use the Atrix + Laprtock as my entire molbile solution. And this includes "real" work which needs substantial typeing and screen real estate.
For me, dropping down to 10 inch would be a killer.
But no way in the world can one work like this on a 7 inch screen.
A shame the OP just busted his scrreen. I suspect the right answer is to wait several months.
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I had exactly that same question, so I trekked over to the local electronics shop near my home here in Yokohama, and they have an Asus TF201 set up there on wifi. The tablet's dimensions are Padfone sized-- 10 inches. They also had the keydock there too, so I got to test that out as well... Wow. Color me impressed. Remember, the 10" IPS screen has more pixels and a much wider and brighter viewing angle than the Moto OG Lapdock. The keyboard was also easy to type on, and I love the fact that there are actual keys for Home, Back, Volume, Menu, Play/Pause and so on.
CGI_Ram said:
So far most responses seem to support the Nexus combo.
I, however, when reading how you use your devices was thinking PadFone all the way. It seems like a better fit for you.
But just my 2 cents.
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You're right-- It does seem like a better fit to me too, the more I think of it. Going and actually futzing with the TF201 yesterday didn't help though...
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The problem is, I think most of the benefits he would get from the padfone would be too minor to justify a $300-$400 price premium. And I am also not sure how well the phone part of it does by itself etc, Ive yet to check some reviews of the padfone. For all that extra money he could by himself some nice cases, screen protectors, bluetooth headsets etc. Even a pack of those little nfc coin things he might be able to put to good use.
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The phone part did pretty well according to Anandtech and Engadget--
Bear in mind that this is supposed to be saving me the cost of getting a netbook to take to work with me everyday as well too... As far as accessories, well I already have 2 bluetooth headsets just sitting on my desk in front of me now, along with a microUSB to USB port adaptor and micro HDMI M/F cables. All this was from me using the Atrix in various situations.
And while the Nexus Duo is a powerful combo, there are 2 things that I absolutely need to have in a device for the way I work-- SD card adaptor and Ethernet Adaptor.
I work in the Media faculty at the university and also teach photojournalism classes; I also freelance a lot too, and one of the things that helps me a lot, is being able to yank my SD card out the camera, snap it into a USB card reader and plug it into the Lapdock and have the Atrix see it, mount it, and access it. I can then do whatever I need to do to the pix while sitting on the train (Did you know the Bullet Trains here all have Wifi onboard, and can be used while in tunnels? I once wrote and uploaded 2 magazine articles, pix and all while on a 3 hour train ride!) The Padfone's keyboard dock has a full sized SDXC card adapter built in...
Also, while my university has wifi almost everywhere on campus, I cannot access the secured parts of the network where we house our common files for grading and such. We can only use the PC labs, office PC pools, or the ethernet ports in the staff rooms. Currently I use a small wifi adapter in bridge mode sometimes-- of course with the SSID not broadcast. But a better solution would be to get a USB Ethernet adaptor. I know the Transformer series has this baked into their kernels-- I think the Padfone can do it too. But I need to do some checking.
Can the Nexus Duo do some/any of these? Let me know how, so I can check off the boxes!
I wouldn't touch an android or ios tablet after the specs of the Microsoft surface the other windows 8 tablet with ivy bridge processors were revealed. Im done with android on anything but my smartphone. Only thing I need to know is the batter life on those beast.
I have been playing with mine for a couple days, it is so awesome, I can't out it down. I DID start to see screen lift, because I was looking for it. If I don't look for it I don't notice it. Am not getting any creak or other issues. If screen lift gets to a bothersome point I think I'll just fix it myself as I don't want to part with an otherwise perfect unit!
So initially I couldn't get Whatsapp to install, device not supported. Thanks to XDA I did a backup from titanium on my phone and a restore from titanium on my N7 and it works beautifully! Did the same for some other apps and they work too! Love my Nexus7 10x more now.
Also I got an app called tablet talk. So good! I can now SMS/call using my cell nu,Ber from my tablet! This may be part of why I can't put this thing down.
Its buttery smooth except for some apps which are obviously not optimized. This actually made me more forgiving about those same laggy apps on the Note.
GPS/navigation while tethered to phone is sick.
Love it love it love it! Who's with me? Sent from my Nexus7 of course.
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I have been playing with mine for a couple days, it is so awesome, I can't out it down. I DID start to see screen lift, because I was looking for it. If I don't look for it I don't notice it. Am not getting any creak or other issues. If screen lift gets to a bothersome point I think I'll just fix it myself as I don't want to part with an otherwise perfect unit!
So initially I couldn't get Whatsapp to install, device not supported. Thanks to XDA I did a backup from titanium on my phone and a restore from titanium on my N7 and it works beautifully! Did the same for some other apps and they work too! Love my Nexus7 10x more now.
Also I got an app called tablet talk. So good! I can now SMS/call using my cell nu,Ber from my tablet! This may be part of why I can't put this thing down.
Its buttery smooth except for some apps which are obviously not optimized. This actually made me more forgiving about those same laggy apps on the Note.
GPS/navigation while tethered to phone is sick.
Love it love it love it! Who's with me? Sent from my Nexus7 of course.
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This may not be sent from my Nexus 7 (hey, some of us love our laptops), but I certainly agree with you. I've been loving everything about my Nexus 7. The clarity of the screen, the build quality, size, Google integration, Android itself, etc... I'm overall quite fond of the setup. I've purchased a couple accessories, most of which I need to get yet, but I'm particularly antsy about the seat bolt tablet holder for my car. I'm hoping I can have a solid mount point for the Nexus 7 for use with GPS.
Personally, I'm growing more and more disinterested in Google Navigation since they don't offer true offline maps (sorry to say, but their "offline area download" they offer is a terrible joke). I'm testing Sygic right now and so far I love it. Sygic (logically) allows you to download maps based on state, so I can download what I need via state instead of downloading by a specific squared off area like in Google Nav. Don't get me wrong, I love Google Nav - but when I was in the boonies in North Carolina for 30 minutes driving blindly waiting for a signal to get rerouted, I quickly knew true offline is what I needed. At 30 bucks for the USA version, Sygic is hard to sneeze at. Food for thought if you ever find yourself in the NC boonies like I did.
Aside from that, I'm absolutely loving everything about my Nexus 7. Me saying this, I find, is rather intriguing too - because I've been a long time tablet hater. But hey, now that there's FINALLY a logically priced tablet that performs beautifully, it's hard to ignore it. :good:
Thanks for the navi tips. I also need to get something to put mine n the car, can't wait. I always hated tablets too and this device insta-converted me!
I just got my Nexus 7 yesterday and I haven't been able to put it down. Its a fantastic device.
I do have a little screen lift as well but nothing too bothersome. I can fix it myself later on since all the other things about this device are perfect.
I couldn't not stop using nexus 7. I think I'm addicted to it
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I bought one a week ago and had it a couple of days when I brought it to my GF house for the weekend. Once she used it she wanted one... I gave her mine since it was around her birthday, and I had my new Acer A700 to play around with... Well two days ago I ordered another Nexus when they came back in stock at Google since I missed it so much. It's the perfect size for gaming as I find my 10" tablet too unwieldy to hold. It's a great little tablet......
Just for an indication - the Google Play store says I have 71 apps installed.
That does not count the ones I have tried and deleted.
I got mine about two weeks ago. It has pretty much replaced my PC for reading mail and news.
Certainly keeping me too busy to get in trouble.
Good for you guys.
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I haven't used my computer since I got my nexus 7. Actually, i haven't done much of anything since i got it. Loving it too!
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I haven't used my computer since I got my nexus 7. Actually, i haven't done much of anything since i got it. Loving it too!
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This. Purchased a ZAGGKeys Flex and got Adobe Flash. I haven't touched my PC since.
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Same here. Never would've thought I would like the 7in. Form factor so much compared to 10.1in. Prime. I love it. Its great size for gaming. Just finished playing some online deathmstches in nova3. Now browsing xda listening to Pandora(Faithless channel) in background. Plugged into my lil surround sound system. Sounds great.
The nexus 7 experience gets even better once you unlock. I'm running stock rom with custo motley linaro based kernel with CPU OC @ 1.624 Ghz and gpu OC @ 520mhz. So much butter it clogs your arteries lol. Google/Asus has a winner here! Like Ipad, it just works. Jellybean on Android is the best! Might stream a movie or something shortly. Either through web browser or maybe Crackle.
Looking at replacing my TF201. I don't see any marshmallow roms even though my TF201, and the 300 both have them. I know this device is a couple years old, but I don't require a lot from the hardware for what I'm using it for. Has development stopped here, or is there still some life to be had?
Any helpful comments welcomed.
Thanks,
Matt
Compared to the TF201 this is so much better..consider to the TF300 with Tim's tweaks..it's so so..
But with that in mind..if you pick one up for $100-$150 then I would say go for it..
Pershoot is keeping a server going so that we get CM 12.1 lollipop 5.1.1 and we may even go to 13 as it matures..
As a general driver, it's ok.. games are fine and Kodi while travelling for HDMI input is good..makes it a light weight entertainment system..I usually carry a Bluetooth speaker so between music and movies/tv shows, I have a good travel system..
I still use mine daily, but as a media consumption device -- reading articles saved via Pocket, or watching videos. You can get better tablets for gaming (e.g. the Nvidia Shield), but I remember a year ago considering a replacement while getting my TF701 repaired, and there was nothing on the market that suited my needs.
All the 10" tablets were either: loaded with bloatware (Samsung), lacked an SD card slot (Nexus), or didn't have a Retina-level display. It was hard to find one that met my three criteria other than the TF701.
At the present time, I suppose the latest Sony or Dell might fit the bill, but it also depends on what price you can get and what sort of warranty. I find I almost never use the keyboard dock because I end up doing all my work on one of my laptops, but that could change if/when we get Marshmallow via Cyanogenmod.
Thanks for the replies. Got mine on Monday, and you were correct none of the problems with the 201 are there.
Yes, I am happy with it..
I bounce between a Nexus 7 and the TF701..
One thing I did do as its a known issue with these because of the low grade ram they used..
I use a program that I picked up from the Nexus 7 thread..it's called .. trimmer (fstrim) and set it to run once a day.. it might be placebo but I feel.it just helps to keep these and the Nexus 7 run a little smoother ..
I think this is what the cromi and zombi where achieving with running the Rom off a good sdcard. But I never felt I needed to go that route..
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Looking at replacing my TF201. I don't see any marshmallow roms even though my TF201, and the 300 both have them. I know this device is a couple years old, but I don't require a lot from the hardware for what I'm using it for. Has development stopped here, or is there still some life to be had?
Any helpful comments welcomed.
Thanks,
Matt
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There's more support on the tf300 for some unknown reason
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