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LG Optimus 2X: first Android dual-core smartphone

Figured might as well start a thread on this. Looks like fantastic specs
http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/15/lg-optimus-2x-first-dual-core-smartphone-launches-with-android/
How about 1080p video recording and micro SD slot for starters....and dual core of course..
I wouldn't touch a Nexus S with a ten foot pole now...
The next 'Nexus" better have some real specs, Google!!!

Old MuckenMire said:
Figured might as well start a thread on this. Looks like fantastic specs
http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/15/lg-optimus-2x-first-dual-core-smartphone-launches-with-android/
How about 1080p video recording and micro SD slot for starters....and dual core of course..
I wouldn't touch a Nexus S with a ten foot pole now...
The next 'Nexus" better have some real specs, Google!!!
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I'm with you. No point in the NS at all.
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I agree... The Nexus S is so... Not worthy of being the predecessor to the Nexus One! The Nexus was ahead of its time.
Google is using gingerbread as a selling point and all the Nexus S is, is their new cash cow. Bull ****!
Dual core is the future.
Personally, i'll be waiting for an i7 processor before i buy my next smartphone
Kidding. But seriously though "Nexus S stands for sucky". lol

Those are great specs...The NS doesn't come close! I'm waiting for HTC to do something grand...

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I'm with you. No point in the NS at all.
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The only thing NS has going for it is first updates, but here's the thing: if this LG were to come out on AT&T in 2011(which it could), even skinned, I'd take it over the NS all day long, and wait to see what the "next Nexus" has to offer in late 2011. I want something that's truly an upgrade to play with before I give up my N1 and something like this LG would be the ticket.

I tried to jump on the NS ship... it's hard with the Galaxy s2, Optimus2x, playstation phone and the olympus all coming soon..

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The only thing NS has going for it is first updates, but here's the thing: if this LG were to come out on AT&T in 2011(which it could), even skinned, I'd take it over the NS all day long, and wait to see what the "next Nexus" has to offer in late 2011. I want something that's truly an upgrade to play with before I give up my N1 and something like this LG would be the ticket.
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As long as I can root and sideload, I agree. I'm rooted but otherwise stock now, and with the LG I'd have a reason to flash custom ROMs. The NS isn't much of an upgrade. This LG certainly is. Can't wait to see what else is announced soon.
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This is more like it can't wait to see more phones like this hopefully it will really start hotting up mid year. Then it will be time to get my wallet out

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As long as I can root and sideload, I agree.
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That's true, having a Nexus One on AT&T, I always take side-downloading for granted.
Surely developers here at XDA would hook us up one way or another

Old MuckenMire said:
That's true, having a Nexus One on AT&T, I always take side-downloading for granted.
Surely developers here at XDA would hook us up one way or another
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Undoubtedly. You and I are really rather fortunate to have such a fine android experience on AT&T. As I also own two Captivates, I'm regulalry reminded of this small blessing. Subsequently, I much prefer unlocked phones
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What do you think of the new Moto we're waiting for an official announcement on? Haven't read much on it, just curious how you feel it compares to this LG.
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haven't read much about it either...this LG is the first to get my real attention given the potential for AT&T compatibility

So it will be available in late jan 2011 in asia? this is the real deal,this is exactly how i feel when i bought a true game changer in Nexus 1
Just hoping that ces 2011 will have more devices like this.

My only comment is: can this really be considered a smartphone? Or as LG would say "or is it something better?"
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Have to say this is the first one that has piqued any real post n1 interest for me so far, the ns barely garnered a glance. Like others I see this as just the first of an unknown number of dual core smartphones that should be announced soon and I will have to weigh in the merits of those devices as well. Whatever I choose a good portion of my purchasing decision will be based on the amount of support here. Beats any OEM update schedule.

Device looks awesome. I see it is a LCD screen. No comment on the type. Black levels seem crappy. I'm really spoiled by AMOLED.
I'm sure the device looks crisper and deeper in person. The screenshots looked make the phone look dull.

Now thats Nexus-like
Doesn't say what screen technology is used, hope its OLED

yeah i'm not feeling the screen,it looks kind of washed out but it makes up for it with everything else

Samsung seems to want to hold us all hostage with the AMOLED screen. We may need to get used to S-LCD if we want to get away from their cheap build quality, etc..
I'd rather have AMOLED than LCD, but not at the cost of everything else..
If it takes going with LCD to get the next Nexus made by, for instance, HTC, I can live with that. Especially if it's an HD screen

Yawp im just waiting on an HTC device with those kinda specs! Until then I will prolly cop a Nexus S just cause and end up selling it or giving it to my lil bro..
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How is this phone

Thinking about using my upgrade for this phone......i would love honest feedback positive and negative
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I love it! Stock it is binged but root and put on GingerVolt its amazing.
GINGERVOLTED!

indyred99 said:
I love it! Stock it is binged but root and put on GingerVolt its amazing.
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I agree. Stock it isnt that great, definitely with the bing. Not a bad phone stock tho, i used it stock for about a month.
But once you root and put gingervolt on it, it is amazing. Mt has done some great things with this phone. (and root is easy now with his kit in development section)

The LG Revolution has very little community support. I wouldn't get it if you like having the latest in Android. Get a Nexus phone instead.

thunderbread said:
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Wait a week, see what's happening with the nexus.
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The LG Revolution is a very good phone. It has a terrible draw back, it doesn't have anything to make it a "flagship" phone. It doesn't have expansive speaker sound. It doesn't have wicked gadgets and dodads. It isn't the thinnest, the lightest, it doesn't have the best screen. Honestly, if you want a phone mentioned above, they are out there. What this phone is, is a phone. But what this phone has, that no other phone has: fans. It has the most loyal fan base of any phone I have ever seen. I have had many phones, and the forums, and the dedications to the development of this phone, are beyond anything you can imagine. And a lot of these guys have never developed until this phone. If these guys were not here, there would be no LG Revolution today. But through, their hard work, dedication, and our desire to want more, the LG survives. LG knows this, they know we are here, I hope they use it as inspiration to create a better phone.
The phone has no major issues. The phone is easy to unlock, get in, and rom away. It is a treat to be able to flash something new, in 5 minutes. Unfortunately, because this is not a "flagship" phone, there is a limited number of developers. But there is a plus to that: quality roms, themes, and mods.
I love my phone. I love the community. I have upgradeitis (to be unhappy a day after owning a product, and a desire to buy bigger and better) (my wife hates it) but I am completely happy with this phone. I don't know how many days I have until I can get a new phone, because I don't care. I am more than fine with using this one, until I get piss ass drunk and destroying it in a mad rage. (story is for dramatic purposes only)

Pretty bad I would say. Especially if you already have a Droid Charge. It has crappy stock software and an overall unrefined feel that usually comes about with LG Android phones. Not even close to being worth wasting an upgrade on especially with all the nicer phones available. Honest opinion lol

adrenaline_rush said:
Pretty bad I would say. Especially if you already have a Droid Charge. It has crappy stock software and an overall unrefined feel that usually comes about with LG Android phones. Not even close to being worth wasting an upgrade on especially with all the nicer phones available. Honest opinion lol
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I attribute this answer to drug use. Really what is going on with the youth today.
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And honestly, from the Charge, you are looking at a step up in looks alone (Charge is dang ugly) but mostly it would be a step over, if you remain in stock.
I bought this phone for two reasons: cnet had a review, that compared it to the iphone. (although, it really doesn't beyond the surface, I think the iphone has a better core system) And with in a day, it was opened and unlocked. With in a week it was Superoneclicked. That kind of openness has not been seen for awhile.
If you choose to wait.. I would wait until the Googlrola comes out. Android is all about being open, I would hope that their phone would be as well. It may be a bit, Tmobile, and Sprint will have first crack at a completely Google phone. Until then, you could have this gem.
So I just looked up Motorola in the news, and they are already planning for the RAZRMAX, it will have a better screen than the Samsung Galaxy, and a bigger, better battery.

Some may call me crazy, but I actually upgraded to the Revo from an iPhone 4 and never looked back.
The community, the ease of modifying, and general fun-ness of the phone really made me happy.
My one major complaint about the phone is the poor battery life.
Good programs exist to help out with that, they just don't play well with the phone.
Other than that, I have never regretted the move.

antiwesley said:
Some may call me crazy, but I actually upgraded to the Revo from an iPhone 4 and never looked back.
The community, the ease of modifying, and general fun-ness of the phone really made me happy.
My one major complaint about the phone is the poor battery life.
Good programs exist to help out with that, they just don't play well with the phone.
Other than that, I have never regretted the move.
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Indeed, but to my recollection, it was notable compared to the Iphone in that department. There are programs, and over and under clocking that can be done. Like I told MT, I just did the Gingervolt 1.3 and the new kernel, and I have a really good battery life. With in the next couple weeks, as Android learns, it will get better.

Can u guess post screen shots using a custom rom for me
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Can u guess post screen shots using a custom rom for me
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Well, I don't think any of us have the original home screens. As far as me, I run gingervolt 1.3, Mt has screen shots on the development pages. And then I am using meezys theme? I should really put that in a signature so I can remember. Its either that, or indys.
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markapowell said:
Well, I don't think any of us have the original home screens. As far as me, I run gingervolt 1.3, Mt has screen shots on the development pages. And then I am using meezys theme? I should really put that in a signature so I can remember. Its either that, or indys.
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Mines the marble theme! You know the best one!
GINGERVOLTED!

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Can u guess post screen shots using a custom rom for me
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Check out the development section and gingervolt 1.3. Then head over to the themes and apps. Check out all the themes in there! Alot of people have really put in time to really get this phone full of awesomeness!
Yes i just said awesomeness lol!
GINGERVOLTED!

markapowell said:
I attribute this answer to drug use. Really what is going on with the youth today.
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And honestly, from the Charge, you are looking at a step up in looks alone (Charge is dang ugly) but mostly it would be a step over, if you remain in stock.
I bought this phone for two reasons: cnet had a review, that compared it to the iphone. (although, it really doesn't beyond the surface, I think the iphone has a better core system) And with in a day, it was opened and unlocked. With in a week it was Superoneclicked. That kind of openness has not been seen for awhile.
If you choose to wait.. I would wait until the Googlrola comes out. Android is all about being open, I would hope that their phone would be as well. It may be a bit, Tmobile, and Sprint will have first crack at a completely Google phone. Until then, you could have this gem.
So I just looked up Motorola in the news, and they are already planning for the RAZRMAX, it will have a better screen than the Samsung Galaxy, and a bigger, better battery.
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So there's no possible way on earth this phone isn't the greatest device ever made? And your opinion is a fact where mine is "attributed to drug use?" That's pretty childish I think.
I've used the Charge, HTC Thunderbolt, Droid X, Droid 2, Droid 1, Incredible, Fascinate if i'm remembering all. Did you just upgrade from a LG Dare or something? In comparison with these and other phones the Revolution just feels cheap and unrefined. Look anywhere on people's opinions of LG android phones. They aren't exactly in the highest regard. But that probably won't matter to you since someone with opposing views must be on drugs.
It helps looking at things objectively, just because you use this phone doesn't make it great. Also stop writing off your opinions as facts, and let the person decide.
OP get the Galaxy Nexus if you want something that will actually have the current software and will be supported in a timely manner. Also it's a polished and smooth device as evident by the reviews. A future proof device worth upgrading to I would say.

The revolution is the worst of the big screen LTE phones on Verizon. Anyone telling you different is fooling themselves so they can be happy with it. I highly recommend not getting it. In fact I'll ask you not to get it, as I dont want to see Verizon or LG make another dollar off it. Many people have already jumped off board and many others wish they could.
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Okay, All the people on here ripping this phone apart. No right now I wouldn't get this phone again given the choices I have of other LTE phones that have been released since this phones inception. If I went back to when I got the phone there is no other option for me. I think the Charge just looks like a piece of junk (if you like it go for it and buy it). The Thunderbolt is HTC and I'm just anti-HTC because of sense. With the phones out now I would either get the Droid Bionic or wait another month or 2. I don't want the Galaxy Nexus because the storage isn't removable (it's either that or the battery. Either way that's no go for me.) The RAZR doesn't have a removable battery so another no go for me there too. Who knows what will be out in a few months. Above all else OP get what you want. Go to the stores and play with each phone for some time to get used to it. Also, don't forget that Verizon lets you switch phones as long as you do it within a week. At least they used too. I hope this was helpful

If it was today, I wouldn't get this phone.. just like all hardware, new and improved hardware is delivered every day... but when I did get this phone back in the summer, I wouldn't have chosen anything else.. I picked it over the iPhone, over the thunderbolt, and over the charge... several things made me pick it.. the big screen, Netflix( at the time it was the only phone with Netflix.. ) and finally, IMO,it has the most responsive touch screen I have ever seen.. my gf likes it much better than her thunderbolt..
If you can get this phone for under 150 I would still get it today, even with the lte lineup.. it is much better than a lot of their premium phones and 100 times better than their cheap lte android phones..
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Only big plus for me is the vo-lte
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thunderbread said:
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Don't waste upgrade on this phone!!!!!!!! GNEX is coming out on Dec. 9 and the RAZR is awesome itself. You will regret getting this phone once you see how the razr and gnex work. They are both clean and fast. If the gnex has a better radio than previous Samsungs, it will be the bees knees.

[Q] Good time to buy a new phone?

I hate to make another good bye thread, but I think its time for me to upgrade. Our dev community is all but dead (besides for the CM10 JB Rom), and I think I just need a new phone.
Is it a good time to get a new phone? Im looking for a top of the line high end phone on AT&T. I was looking at the One X+ but the Tegra 3 chip seems like its a little old. Im also not a big fan of the LG Optimus. Im really liking the Droid DNA but the fact that there is 16gb non expendable storage and the off contract price is $600 (it comes unlocked so it works on AT&T) is kind of a deal breaker.
Should I Wait for CES and hope that more Snapdragon 4 Pro, 1080p phones will come? Or should I just get the One X+?

I would just buy a Nexus 4. I just did. It isn't here yet, but it is going to be aweeesome.

As soon as Google gets more, I'm buying a nexus 4 also! I'm still going to keep this phone as a backup/tethering device (I need LTE speeds to tether).
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gotzaDroid said:
As soon as Google gets more, I'm buying a nexus 4 also! I'm still going to keep this phone as a backup/tethering device (I need LTE speeds to tether).
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But then Im stuck with no lte, 16gb of storage, and its still $300. I would rather go with the one x+ then.
My question was really if it seems like there will be a new wave of android phones in the near future (CES.)

thekalby said:
But then Im stuck with no lte, 16gb of storage, and its still $300. I would rather go with the one x+ then.
My question was really if it seems like there will be a new wave of android phones in the near future (CES.)
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I guess I can overlook those things because I hate the bull **** of skins like sense and touch wiz. Also too, I can't stand the service providers bastardizing the software with their bloat.
But to better answer your question, CES always has new stuff rolling out, but it's really up to what you want. This ain't like the iPhone where there's only one phone a year to look forward to. There's always a new phone coming out with Android on it. Look at how fast the one X+ came out after the one X.... If there's not a phone right now that makes you want to run out and buy it, wait till that one comes around... Or until your current phone breaks!
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I guess I can overlook those things because I hate the bull **** of skins like sense and touch wiz. Also too, I can't stand the service providers bastardizing the software with their bloat.
But to better answer your question, CES always has new stuff rolling out, but it's really up to what you want. This ain't like the iPhone where there's only one phone a year to look forward to. There's always a new phone coming out with Android on it. Look at how fast the one X+ came out after the one X.... If there's not a phone right now that makes you want to run out and buy it, wait till that one comes around... Or until your current phone breaks!
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Thats the problem, my Vivid is slow as anything and is getting awful battery life running desensed. With a new phone im either going to sacrifice LTE and storage or processor and ram.

There is stock based, miui or desensed roms it's not that bad
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ZeRo2o9 said:
There is stock based, miui or desensed roms it's not that bad
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there all stockbased, or have a bit of the htc frameworks in them since htc takes googles code, f*cks it up, moves everything around, and then releases it

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there all stockbased, or have a bit of the htc frameworks in them since htc takes googles code, f*cks it up, moves everything around, and then releases it
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My vivid isnt slow at all..... But my phones running 1.5 ghz. Try raidcity. It is a really smooth Rom and I have not had any problems at all.. but make sure u use kozmiks kernel instead of the stock and the s3 gpu drivers

nexus 4
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I ain't going to lie, I would rather have a phone with more storage or an sd, a removable battery, and lte, but I just don't trust carrier phones anymore so I bought a nexus 4 and I am patiently waiting for it to get here, but figured the sacrifices would be worth it to not have to deal with the hurdles modern phones have just to delete unwanted bloatware, and have wifi tethering with no bs monthly charge.
I really love the one X plus, but I am a bit afraid of it. Afraid it's this year's vivid, a filler phone with locked down hardware and piss poor support. Honestly with my impatience over the nexus 4, I played with all the carrier phones and the answer is a no brainer. Galaxy s3!
Galaxy S3 is as close to a no compromise phone as it gets. Sure its only been dual core, but it's a bad ass dual core, and it's got 2 gigs of ram, and it just got its jelly bean update, and development is off the chain, hell its practically the flagship for the cm team! Accessories are on the level of apple products.. In fact by all means it's the anti iphone.
It looks good, and if you can't deal with TouchWiz, you have most likely an overwhelming amount of options.
Only downsides to it is if your a screen perfectionist you'll probably hate the pentile 4.8 inch 720p AMOLED screen. I personally think it's gorgeous and I can't even tell the difference between pentile and non pentile anyway and I prefer amoled anyway for better brightness, deeper blacks, and better battery life.
My other gripe with it is the dated button layout. I do like physical buttons over the nexuses virtual buttons as the virtual buttons sacrifice screen real estate, but I prefer the new layout as menu is just useless after ics.
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To summarize if you can't deal with the sacrifices that come with the Nexus 4, then the Galaxy S3 is the ONLY phone worth buying! Okay well the note 2 as well if you're into ridiculously stupid large phones, a personal preference thing, I don't care for it myself
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Good time to buy a new phone?
I know you posted this awhile ago, but, if you were to get a new phone this week, you'd literally be getting a new phone the week the main CM10 ROM issue for Holiday (AT&T in-call microphone) is solved.
So, no, if you're thinking of getting a new phone this week, I'd wait. We're going to have a ton of roms pouring in over the next few weeks.

Want to kill the lag? Put wcx's stock rom on, and leave it be! Seriously, any mods will just add lag, deal with sense 3.6 and put that rom on and you'll be happier. Trust me it's worked for me
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Or run any of the cm10 builds...
I like PACMan...
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I bought a optimus. Best phone ever. No bull****. Fast. Fast. Fast. Can have up to 80 gig storage. Most powerful quad core. Most powerful GPU. Most ram (2gigs). Fast. But I still play with this phone still Cuz I really like it.
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Not a bad choice, it's the same phone as the nexus 4 but with lte, and an sd slot, and of course LGs customized version of ics instead of raw android 4.2. I considered one but am worried about development on it
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No More Nexus 4.

I tried to like this phone, but I have come to the realization that I just don't. No bumper, charging mat or screen protector has helped me enjoy it anymore. Getting this device to work correctly on at&t is a nightmare, I'm having connection issues to this day. No apn, imei or change of plan has fixed it. The phone has light bleed, which is frustrating to look at and buzzing which is annoying to hear. Rma is not my thing it takes to long and I've heard to many horror stories.
Stock android is nice though I feel the experience of say the note 2 is better. I'd rather have a skinned version of android and then when I am looking for a vanilla look and feel I can ROM aokp or cm 10 which seems to be the better version of stock android anyway with added utility and customizations.
Think my run with at&t and my nexus is over. Time for a new beginning with Verizon LTE which is available 100% in my area where at&t is not and I think I'm going with a droid DNA.
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Cool story bro. Tell it again..:thumbup:
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Good choice man! this device is not for everyone :good:
As for me AT&T works fine in my area, never had any problems. Had a few friends not getting signal earlier with their sprint iphones and I let them use mine to make a call :silly:

Hey man, it's your choice! Pure capitalistic decision here. You are not satisfied with the device, which you have every right to feel that way. It doesn't fit your needs and you like the Note 2. You don't need some AOSP zealots approval to move on. I hate AT&T personally. They treat you like crap, and though they are the No.2 carrier, with GSM, I wouldn't go back to them for all the tea in China. If I was a high roller, I might consider Verizon as they hands down have the best coverage in the USA. Their 3g is slower than my T-Mobile... and even sometimes their LTE, but good luck getting ANY 3g coverage in upstate NY (aunt lives there) on T-Mobile outside Rochester proper. If you would be served better with a Verizon Note 2, go there brother and be happy with your purchase! I personally don't want to go back to touchwiz (been AOSP too long), but the phone is awesome! Has a beautiful screen, expandable storage, great processor, 2nd best Android battery life (Razr HD Maxx being No.1), S-Pen, multi-window multitasking, etc.
Don't think you have to have a Nexus or the acceptance of the Nexus crowd. Vote with your bucks and your feet. Wish you well with the Note 2.

Are you going to sell the Nexus?
I personally have had zero issues on AT&T via Straight Talk and love this device. I would highly recommend sticking with a GSM provider though, if you have service in your area, T-Mobile perhaps? As GSM unlocked devices gives one much more freedom to move carriers, plus, I suffered hell with Verizon, they are by far one of the worst companies I have ever had the displeasure of dealing with; never again.
Either way, good luck.

It's called T mobile?
I honestly never see the purpose of these threads. The forum isn't your personal blog. And I don't think any body necessarily has any care what you're saying (as mentioned previously by the person who said cool story bro). If you don't like the phone that's fine, just be on your way. Not being mean or anything but the general forum isn't ones blog
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We don't need a thread to be made just because someone is either new to the device or if they're selling it. Just move along quietly and it will be better for everyone.
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how much for the n4???

munchy_cool said:
how much for the n4???
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Buying a device on xda is against the rules
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Guys, we should band together and hold a candlelight vigil in an attempt to convince the OP to stick with the Nexus. That's what a good community does, right?
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The beauty of android is, there are tons of devices out there and great choices. Ill suggest the note 2.
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Guys, we should band together and hold a candlelight vigil in an attempt to convince the OP to stick with the Nexus. That's what a good community does, right?
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Nah, we'll just tie him up to a log and send him off in a viking funeral.......except that he is still breathing when we light the first torch.

inseconds99 said:
I tried to like this phone, but I have come to the realization that I just don't. No bumper, charging mat or screen protector has helped me enjoy it anymore. Getting this device to work correctly on at&t is a nightmare, I'm having connection issues to this day. No apn, imei or change of plan has fixed it. The phone has light bleed, which is frustrating to look at and buzzing which is annoying to hear. Rma is not my thing it takes to long and I've heard to many horror stories.
Stock android is nice though I feel the experience of say the note 2 is better. I'd rather have a skinned version of android and then when I am looking for a vanilla look and feel I can ROM aokp or cm 10 which seems to be the better version of stock android anyway with added utility and customizations.
Think my run with at&t and my nexus is over. Time for a new beginning with Verizon LTE which is available 100% in my area where at&t is not and I think I'm going with a droid DNA.
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Sent from Nexus 4 - cm10 - faux kernel002 beta005

Feel sorry for you, love mine N4!
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Damn, how much is that Verizon plan going to cost a month?
Enjoy your new phone though Droid DNA looks like a great phone too.

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We don't need a thread to be made just because someone is either new to the device or if they're selling it. Just move along quietly and it will be better for everyone.
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Received Nexus.......Selling this week. Nexus VS TAB 2 7 3G

I have been going around and around with these devices. I got the TAB 2 7 P3100 3G from the wife for Christmas after researching both. I could not make up my mind and Christmas was coming quickly so I asked her for the more expensive P3100 (LOL) and I already have a samsung device in the Note 2.
But was still very interested in the Nexus since I have been reading nothing but great things about it. Now this may not be a fair comparison because the TAB is a 3G device that is invisible to my carrier ATT. However I will put that aside and share my impressions after playing with the Nexus solely for the last day and a half.
When I initially put the TAB 2 next to my Note, my jaw dropped at the "washed out" colors on the TAB compared to the Note 2. This lit the Nexus fire and I had to get one now especially since I read and heard nothing but great things about the Nexus screen, When I saw a One day only sale at the Adorama Store on Ebay on New Years day for $229 shipped I jumped at it and ordered an accessories package on Ebay (which has yet to arrive). I immediately put the TAB on Ebay for a high "Buy It Now only price (in the "unlikely" event i would not like the Nexus 7) I am glad now no one bought it after playing with the Nexus over the past couple days.
Initially I loved the all black look of the Nexus with the screen off vs the framed TAB. (small meaningless detail) I also appreciated the slightly narrower form factor and feel of the back cover. The glass was perfect. No build issues here. Looked great although I am not the type who "wears" my phones and devices. I use them.
I immediately unlocked it, flashed a custom recovery and flashed ParanoidAndroid on it. Very nice. I played with it for a day or so. This afternoon I finally I put the TAB side by side with the Nexus and found the Nexus was faster but not all that much. Not enough to say "wow" Certainly not as much as I thought it would be.
What stopped me in my tracks and gave me major pause was when I put the same picture up on the Nexus I initially compared with my Note 2 and had all three side by side. The Note was still much better. No suprise there. But this time the TAB and Nexus were very much the same. The Nexus was not as I had expected. The colors were not nearly as saturated as the Note and in fact almost identical to the TAB on all screen brightness settings In fact I could not tell them apart from a color saturation standpoint. I could however appreciate the denser pixel count on the Nexus when zooming in especially. But Needless to say i expected a much much better screen color quality and much much closer to the Note 2 in color quality. The Note 2 screen is amazing I guess.
USB OTG worked great on both but I don't need it on the TAB with 70GB of usable storage. vs <30GB. I initially had issue with the 64GB card in the TAB which pushed me into the nexus as well early on. But that has been solved. That along with the 3G and phone abilities of the TAB leading me to decide the TAB was the better of the two to keep for my needs.
Initially I thought the choices of ROMs the Nexus development community offered would be a plus but I usually find one ROM and stick with it. I can always get the CM 10 and AKOP ROMS for the TAB along with the TW ROMs.
The front camera on the Nexus is not as good as the rear camera on the TAB although the difference was about as much as the front cameras between the TAB and Nexus. All of them are nothing special. (although I am old enough to remember when 3MB camera was a great addition to a phone!!)
The thing I did like about the Nexus is the USB port but I have loaded up with Samsung "proprietary" USB Cables
and OTG accessories.
All that said the TAN IS A 3g devices and a phone. IF The TAB were the US non 3G model the decision would be much harder. But I would likely lean in its direction because I am used to Samsungs recovery and download modes (although Fastboot took all of 30 seconds to figure out) I expected a whole lot more from the color density and the screen on the Nexus, At the end of the day the additional storage along with the camera possibilities won me over. I am not a gamer so the quad core would likely not be a factor although I did run Need for Speed on the TAb to test it initially and it ran fine.
This is not a knock on the Nexus. It is a great device and for the money the best on paper. but for me anyway the difference were not enough to give up the advantages of the extra storage and free phone and 3G capability, which I could have done anyway using the Note as a hot spot with the Nexus,

Of course the colors will be washed out in comparison... Nothing beats super amoled
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korockinout13 said:
Of course the colors will be washed out in comparison... Nothing beats super amoled
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Quoted cause its the truth.

korockinout13 said:
Of course the colors will be washed out in comparison... Nothing beats super amoled
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Yeah I really didn't pay much attention to the screen specs. I assumed the Nexus would be much better than the TAB likely because of the Pixel density if nothing else. I think if Google/Asus would have put ExtSD capability, headset microphone, and maybe even a better front camera, I would keep the Nexus for the form factor alone.
Once all the 360 case and the rest of the Nexus candy gets here I will throw it all up on Ebay. Thankfully there are AKOP ROMS available for the Samsung.

tbong777 said:
Yeah I really didn't pay much attention to the screen specs. I assumed the Nexus would be much better than the TAB likely because of the Pixel density if nothing else. I think if Google/Asus would have put ExtSD capability, headset microphone, and maybe even a better front camera, I would keep the Nexus for the form factor alone.
Once all the 360 case and the rest of the Nexus candy gets here I will throw it all up on Ebay. Thankfully there are AKOP ROMS available for the Samsung.
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Just be lucky you weren't like me.
Bought the Acer iconia a110, was cheap and had similar specs to n7 with hdmi out and sdcard slot.
Played with it for a bit....turned out it wasn't for me. Screen looked terrible, it weighed quite abit more than my 7, brought it back (was an 8gb model) to find the nexus 7 calling my name. I bought the 32gb model with no regrets, great device for the price in my opinion.
Edit : I always see people are complaining about the n7 not having a back camera, seriously a tablet is no device meant for mad photography. Get a nikkon or some **** lol. Front camera is 'OK' Good enough for my Skype calls with my lady :thumbup:
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I wouldn't have minded a back camera on the N7 for Skype. My wife travels a lot and when we Skype I use my phone so I can flip back and forth on the cameras so she can see our baby playing and generally being cute. I could also imagine in the business world it would be useful to show clients whatever in a video conference call. Even if it was a cheap 2.0 megapixel camera, that would have been fine.
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I think the N7 is a great tablet, one of the best and considered the best by some users. You can run almost any app/game without any lag and if you overclock the cpu, it will be even more powerful. First, I wanted to buy a more expensive device, but I looked over N7's performance and price and this was my final choice. I don't regret it!

Lol I hope you are okay with waiting forever for a new update and having your device stop being updated after about a year. Sorry but its just the cold hard truth. We will keep getting updates as son as they are released for quite a while but Samsung has quite a reputation for slacking on updates and dropping devices soon after release.
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Nice review, but you left out one of the most important aspects of any comparison: price. You make it sound like the Tab and the N7 are on equal footing in almost all aspects, but when one costs almost twice what the other costs and you leave that fact out, you are doing a disservice to the readers. On that basis, this is not a fair comparison. I bought the N7 over the Tab 2 because I didn't want or need 3G and I didn't want or need to spend close to $500 for what I wanted a tablet for. When I compared all the specs and credible reviews, the N7 was perfect for my needs and budget. It has not disappointed.

The p3100 runs on your att, which is great. Swap Sims and you're good to go. Since this is the GSM you have a lot more Dev support than the CDMA variant. AOKP is there as well as CM. They have it oc to 1.4 as well. If this suits your needs then run with it, more power to you. I like to stay on the newest builds, that's why I chose what I did. After having many phones by HTC and Samsung and constantly having to choose what I can live without (newest build, working camera, reboots, etc.) I bought a galaxy nexus so I don't constantly wait on manufacturer and carrier hold ups (like my note skyrocket evo, evo 3D) and I am happy. Which is why I went with the nexus 7. When I first saw the HTC jetstream and Samsung note 10.1 I had the itch to buy them. Luckily I didn't, the jetstream is and will forever be on honeycomb and there hasn't been any major Dev work for a year. If you don't need to have the latest and greatest as soon as you can get your paws on it then go with the tab, I would have huge regrets if I chose the one that may not get the next release.
Anyways that's my 2¢ either way you can't go wrong if that is what suits your needs in a 7".
On a side note, you can always eBay your note and tab and get the 3g note 10.1 just food for thought
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QUOTE=AFAinHD;36401781]Lol I hope you are okay with waiting forever for a new update and having your device stop being updated after about a year. Sorry but its just the cold hard truth. We will keep getting updates as son as they are released for quite a while but Samsung has quite a reputation for slacking on updates and dropping devices soon after release.
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You can't be serious. There are nightlies available for the Galaxy Tab as well from CyanogenMod and Milestone. I have never had a device where I'd depended on the manufacturer for updates. Always went with developers. And sometimes the updates are not all that good I would never downloaded the OTA 4.2 update on my Nexus 7 after running it on the tab in having all kinds of Bluetooth issues. The first thing it wanted to do when I fired it up was download that update. I did not selective it. I'll let the new user decide.
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Miami_Son said:
Nice review, but you left out one of the most important aspects of any comparison: price. You make it sound like the Tab and the N7 are on equal footing in almost all aspects, but when one costs almost twice what the other costs and you leave that fact out, you are doing a disservice to the readers. On that basis, this is not a fair comparison. I bought the N7 over the Tab 2 because I didn't want or need 3G and I didn't want or need to spend close to $500 for what I wanted a tablet for. When I compared all the specs and credible reviews, the N7 was perfect for my needs and budget. It has not disappointed.
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I completely agree and I mentioned that but on the face of it the Galaxy Tab 7 without 3g would still be a better choice for me for the reasons I indicated. But I only spent $350 dollars for the Tab 3G. Nowhere near $500. I read a lot of reviews and read this area of X DA, for a long time and decided I needed to have them both in front of me to make a decision. Which took about 2 days.
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VonEsch said:
The p3100 runs on your att, which is great. Swap Sims and you're good to go. Since this is the GSM you have a lot more Dev support than the CDMA variant. AOKP is there as well as CM. They have it oc to 1.4 as well. If this suits your needs then run with it, more power to you. I like to stay on the newest builds, that's why I chose what I did. After having many phones by HTC and Samsung and constantly having to choose what I can live without (newest build, working camera, reboots, etc.) I bought a galaxy nexus so I don't constantly wait on manufacturer and carrier hold ups (like my note skyrocket evo, evo 3D) and I am happy. Which is why I went with the nexus 7. When I first saw the HTC jetstream and Samsung note 10.1 I had the itch to buy them. Luckily I didn't, the jetstream is and will forever be on honeycomb and there hasn't been any major Dev work for a year. If you don't need to have the latest and greatest as soon as you can get your paws on it then go with the tab, I would have huge regrets if I chose the one that may not get the next release.
Anyways that's my 2¢ either way you can't go wrong if that is what suits your needs in a 7".
On a side note, you can always eBay your note and tab and get the 3g note 10.1 just food for thought
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Oh I thought about that Note, 3G 10.1 but I don't want to carry around a tablet that big I bought one of those for my wife for Christmas as a musician she can use it for the playback tracks or sheet music and replace little Acer she's currently using or at least have a good Backup. I would love to see the Note come in a 6 inch phone version. I wouldn't need both the tablet and phone. In the meantime there's no way I would get rid of the Note 2.
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You can't be serious. There are nightlies available for the Galaxy Tab as well from CyanogenMod and Milestone. I have never had a device where I'd depended on the manufacturer for updates. Always went with developers. And sometimes the updates are not all that good I would never downloaded the OTA 4.2 update on my Nexus 7 after running it on the tab in having all kinds of Bluetooth issues. The first thing it wanted to do when I fired it up was download that update. I did not selective it. I'll let the new user decide.
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that's not what i'm saying. We own a flagship device. Not only do we get the updates instantly, google releases the updates on their website with source so developers can make roms with ease. Its a lot easier to make a ROM for the latest update when google has given you the newest update source code already optimized for your device on a silver platter.
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It sounds like you've already thought of all the different angles, and your mind's made up. Like I said fortunately it's not the CDMA version, my friend bought one and there really isn't any Dev love for that thing. Enjoy your tab 2!
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I used to have the galaxy tab 2 7.0. Had a kernel for it and everything. Unfortunately it was by far the slowest device i had ever used. Slower than my S2 single core HTC incredible and the graphics performance was pretty bad too. CM helped by fixing the graphics drivers and eliminating TW bloat, but it didnt help enough to make me happy with it.
But if you enjoy the Tab2 then go ahead and keep it and enjoy it. Don't let these N7 fanboys phase you
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Metallice said:
I used to have the galaxy tab 2 7.0. Had a kernel for it and everything. Unfortunately it was by far the slowest device i had ever used. Slower than my S2 single core HTC incredible and the graphics performance was pretty bad too. CM helped by fixing the graphics drivers and eliminating TW bloat, but it didnt help enough to make me happy with it.
But if you enjoy the Tab2 then go ahead and keep it and enjoy it. Don't let these N7 fanboys phase you
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I'm a google fanboy, being a fanboy of the nexus is just a side effect. Get it right.
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AFAinHD said:
I'm a google fanboy, being a fanboy of the nexus is just a side effect. Get it right.
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A true Google fanboy is a nexus fanboy.
And a true nexus fanboy is a nexus 7 fanboy
And vice-versa.
So one implies the other assuming "true" fanboyism.
Checkmate.

Metallice said:
A true Google fanboy is a nexus fanboy.
And a true nexus fanboy is a nexus 7 fanboy
And vice-versa.
So one implies the other assuming "true" fanboyism.
Checkmate.
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Just because your a nexus 7 fanboy doesn't mean you are a google fanboy. U can like the tablet and not google.
I win
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AFAinHD said:
Just because your a nexus 7 fanboy doesn't mean you are a google fanboy. U can like the tablet and not google.
I win
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Wouldn't that make you an Asus fanboy
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