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Flashed Desire Sense rom, now virtually no internal memory??

Hi guys
I switched from my x10 to a nexus one last week, really wanted to try out Froyo, multitouch, and all the goodies that come with that.
I flashed a desire sense rom onto my nexus a couple of days ago. I didn't bother to check what the internal memory was on first boot, and perhaps I should have, but hopefully you can help anyway.
I used titanium backup to restore all of my apps. However, I got to a certain point, and my internal memory was full. So I had to cancel the process, and then start a new batch process in titanium backup to move all the apps to the sd card. This seemed fine, I started again to restore all the previously unrestored apps. Then, sooner than before, the same thing happened again. So I cancelled the process and moved all apps to the sd card. This went on, to the point where I'm at now, that I have so little internal memory I can't install any more apps! Even though I have supposedly shifted all my apps to the sd card. I have no idea what has happened this memory, where has it gone? How do I reclaim it? What is it that is taking it up, if all my apps are on my sd card instead? :-S
Thanks for the help as always guys, any tips are much appreciated.

Download DiskUsage from the market (you may have to uninstall something first).
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When you restore from titanium after flashing a rom just restore missing apps and data NOT all system data, just fyi
or just do basic apps you need
if you are going to run sense roms you should use amon_ra 2.0.0 to set up an ext3 partition. Some roms move the a2sd auto after you reboot right after flashing rom and some use Dark Tremor that they include in rom. Just need to be sure.
ken

Thanks for the tip about titanium, I'll remember that for the next time.
I ran DiskUsage, seems I have 96.3MB of system data... Is all of this essential, or is there any way for me to clear some of it? How did it all get there in the first place?
Thanks guys.

that seems awful high for system mem free. sure it isn't internal free memory your seeing
not familiar with diskusage, if it shows all, good
i like quick system shows all mem info. maybe just duplicates diskusage, don't know
interested to know internal free memory

According to disk usage, out of a total of 196.2MB internal memory,
79.8MB is used by apps (presumably those which must be stored locally)
96.3MB system data
and 20.2MB free space.
Does this help?

rugmankc said:
that seems awful high for system mem free. sure it isn't internal free memory your seeing
not familiar with diskusage, if it shows all, good
i like quick system shows all mem info. maybe just duplicates diskusage, don't know
interested to know internal free memory
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ask the right questions, that is not a large amount of system memory if he is using the new sense 2.0 roms
, are you using the new desireHD rom / mytouch 4g, with sense 2.0, these roms are large, leaving very little space on the device, if it is one of these you will have setup an ext partition on your sdcard,
if you have flashed the desireHD rom plug your phone into pc
from cmd type
adb shell stop
adb shell
a2sd repair
hit ctrl+c to back out
adb shell start
this should move all apps from the /data/app partition into your sd-ext partition, which has much more free space

those don't sound right, doesn't it say "internal free memory" and 20.63mb free which is the internal is very low
I go back into TB and scroll down and delete apps from previous rom and then refresh. If you did select "restore all apps and system data" may be why internal is low. Don't think you cancahnge that till next rom flash. If it is working you can nandroid for now and think about Dark Tremor.

I used "eViL-NXSense-v.1.25", this was the ROM that I flashed.
How much free memory would you expect with this? And also, how come the memory went down as I installed apps, even though I moved them to the external memory?

petecdun said:
I used "eViL-NXSense-v.1.25", this was the ROM that I flashed.
How much free memory would you expect with this? And also, how come the memory went down as I installed apps, even though I moved them to the external memory?
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right, an AOSP rom will leave you with about 70-90 MB, not exactly sure with a sense rom but i doubt there would me much left to play with as the nexus was built without sense
the reason your space still goes down is because when you install the app, it is dexopted and the code is optimized, this optimized code is specific for your phone and is stored on your data partition, so even though your moving the actual app to your sdcard, the optimized code (Dalvik cache) is still stored on your phone, as the same for any app data.
my advice, and what i always use is Apps2Ext this is using a seperate partition on your memory card dedicated to installing apps, if you have one setup already great, if not
backup everything on your SDcard and partition it with your recovery software, when asked, choose 512MB ext, 0 swap, and the rest (FAT), copy all your stuff back to your SDcard, as well as this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715940
flash that through the recovery, it will move all your apps from the data/app folder to the new partition you made on your sdcard and link data/app to that folder so any new apps you install will automatically be installed there

I have MicroMod2.10 sense which is auto a2sd, you need an ext3 partition to get more free.
I have 93mb free internal. Normal can be 75 to 120
Your system free mem sounds high
FYI: If you partition with amon or rommgr/cwmod it wipes sd card.
I just messed up my sdcard and had to reformat it, not ext partition, left it alone, thru Mini Partition Tool Wizard and sd card reader. The reader is the only thing that confirms I have ext 3. DT always shows ext2 and rommgr seems to do only ext2. Amon can do ext3, 512mb, 0 Swap
You need to get in habit of backing sdcard regularly, not necessarily all everytime, if a particular folder like videos or pics hasn't changed. They are high mem only.

Beat You bagofcrap24
I usually am on the losing end
Ken

Expertise please HELP-SOLVED-

GTP1000 Rooted I'm using Install Manager, Android Assistant, Quick application Manager and Root explorer to shift all my application from the phone to the SD card unfortunately I figured out that I have only 200 MB remaining in my phone memory ! Only 4 programs installed on there as per of the previouse listed applications and the remaining on the SD card as it shows I start searching to figure out the problem using root explorer I found the root
Phone Memory/mnt/asec/secure/asec - 990 MB so I tried to move it to the SD card but once moved it will return back again to the same path!! Even if I tried to delete it will remain the same! also I found another root phone/mnt/asec -670 MB which has almost the same applications by all means using root explorer I cut& paste the first root to the SD card and reboot then only the installed programs in phone works and the other application icons disappeared I was shocked cause even trying to backup my mistake was a hectic work, by all means its again as it was and still facing the same problem any help
Solution
After fed up of finding any solution I start clear all the programs data manually at least to preserve some space and while clearing my phone explorer application data I shocked it was loaded with 1.53 GB!!!!! Don’t know where it came from!!! But finally my sole been relieved thanks for all the assistant been given by every one answered my query

Ok a few issues here....
1) You should be asking this in the Q&A forum, not the Dev forum, it has nothing to do with development
2) You don't need four third party apps to move your apps to sdcard. Apps2SD is a function of the android system. You can simply go into Settings->Manage Apps and then go into whatever app you want to move and press the button that says "Move to SD Card"
3) You really shouldn't be rooting around your phone deleting or moving stuff without a thorough understanding of Linux and Android.../mnt/asec/secure/asec is a symlink to .android_secure on your sdcard. Those files were not actually on your internal memory, just links to files on your sdcard.
4) Android will manage your internal memory as necessary...you really don't need to be worried about having only 200mb free. Once you run out it will start installing apps to your sdcard on its own.
At this point I think you're pretty fubar and will have to reinstall the apps then move them to SD if you so choose.

Dear thanks a lot for you respond also thanks to direct me to the proper channel to post my inquiry in, also thanks a lot for the advices and for the explanation but one more concern killing me, why once trying to install new application an red SD card icons appears on the tab upper left corner with memory full window listing that internal device memory is nearly full delete/uninstall some applications or data and try again! Any help

Internal Memory full
You must have a ton of data on your internal SD and that is why the icon appeared. Also, some apps cannot be moved to the external SD. I would go into your applications and see what is vital and what you can delete. Keep the internal SD as light as possible. External SD's can be expanded to 32 gbs (i have one and it works well)..so use that for all your data and for moveable apps. Remember to check which apps you can move and which must stay on the Internal SD.

[Q] Internal SD card not recognized CyanogenMod 7 nightly

I've just now flashed the latest Cyanogenmod 7 nightly on my O2X, and I'm experiencing a problem with my internal SD card.
Any app that want to use the internal SD card is unable to do so because supposedly the card is not mounted, while under Settings - Storage - Internal SD Card, it gives me an option to unmount the card. I've tried unmounting and mounting again, but that didn't do anything.
When I connect my phone to my laptop using USB, the only option I get is the USB Debugging (if I have that on). The only way to get the option to turn on USB storage is if I power off the phone, connect the USB and then power up the phone. That way I get the option to turn on USB storage, but when I do that, nothing happens on the computer or the phone.
If I reboot the phone in recovery mode, then I can select instal zip from internal sd card and then see the different folders on the card, but I have not dared to see if can actually flash Cyanogenmod again in fear of not being able to get any kind of contact with my sd card.
Now I realize that there are ways of fixing this issue, but is there a way that will help me keep the data I have on my internal sd card? I have a lot of information on it that I don't want to lose at all.
Even ideas of how I could backup the internal sd card so that I can just go crazy and format the card would highly appreciated! I've tried the Software Data Cable app, but that didn't work either.
Any help you can give me would be a major relief as I have been struggling with this problem through the night without much results.
Some info:
Before flash: Stock Gingerbread (Android 2.3.4)
Flashed ROM: CyanogenMod-7-20120313-NIGHTLY-p990 (Android 2.3.7)
Phone: LG Optimus 2X p990
No external SD card

Accessing internal storage
Go to settings - CyanogenMod Settings - Application
And check the Internal storage box.
If you have issues with some apps check the "allow moving.." as well
AND change the install location to internal. On automatic this should work anyway since you are not using an externalSD.
--- REMEMBER TO REBOOT---
If you are still having problems fix permissions and reflash the same nightly or a newer one. (data is not lost... dont wipe)
Dont think this applies to you.. but just in case.
If you still have issues with any apps and their settings. Delete the app data at the Application Manager. Then before opening/running the app, delete its associated folders on the sd. (You should be able to mount by now.) Reboot and things should be working fine. Dont worry about this last paragraph if you are not having issues with apps not saving data/starting/cant find sd card etc. Since you dont have a external SD.

Yeah, I found this out just two minutes ago, and now everything works! Thanks a lot elkhawkes!
Woah, I'm happy now!
I don't see why this isn't standard in CyanogenMod though. What are the benefits of "hiding" the internal SD card like that? Is it considered that people who flash CyanogenMod doesn't have anything useful on their internal SD, but rather the external one? At least for me, I had a lot of application data, pictures and text files I needed on the internal SD card.
Well, anyways, all is well for me now, so far...

Ok, I've noticed a problem.
You were right about some apps having problems. It seems like Whatsapp and SwiftKey is unable to save their stats. Message count and keystroke count returns to 0 every time I reboot. Its not the biggest problem, but it might be a symptom of a bigger problem, so I want to fix it.
I have tried all the different suggestions you mention for solving problems with apps, but none of them work. Even when I delete the Whatsapp folder on the internal SD card, the app still has problems saving its stats. I guess that might be because there are more Whatsapp files in one of the android folders on the card.
I was thinking that I might be able to do this sequence of things to fix it, but I'd like to get some confirmation that it might work and I won't brick my phone or will be having to buy and external SD card:
1. Copy everything on the internal SD card to my computer. (Already done!)
2. Re-flash the latest CyanogenMod nightly (and Google Apps) from the internal SD card using ROM Manager and delete all data cache, dalvik and so on.
3. Before installing any apps I go to Settings - CyanogenMod settings - Application and check Use internal storage. That way my internal SD card will be "visible".
4. Go to Settings - Storage and then selecting Erase SD card (note this is the internal SD card, I do not have an external card).
Questions:
- Will step 4. delete everything on the SD card, including all files in the Android folders?
- Will I still be able to use my phone with Cyanogenmod without having any files on the internal SD card (and no external card in the phone) or does flashing CyanogenMod or any other ROM on the phone install crucial files on the internal SD card? I want to know this for sure, because if I can't, then I will have no way of returning to a working ROM or flash a new one. I want to avoid a brick at all cost.
- Can I then start installing all the apps I want and then trying to copy only the folders containing for example the media and messages folders for Whatsapp back to the SD card to recover those on the fresh install?
** What about the Factory data reset option in CyanogenMod? Is that something I can use for this? Will the phone be reset to "factory" with CyanogenMod installed and no other old files on it, so that everything is fresh and I can install my apps and then copy media/backup folders to get the apps running without problems and with my old media?
Any help with this matter would be highly appreciated!

Testing7 said:
Questions:
- Will step 4. delete everything on the SD card, including all files in the Android folders?
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Yes.
- Will I still be able to use my phone with Cyanogenmod without having any files on the internal SD card (and no external card in the phone) or does flashing CyanogenMod or any other ROM on the phone install crucial files on the internal SD card? I want to know this for sure, because if I can't, then I will have no way of returning to a working ROM or flash a new one. I want to avoid a brick at all cost.
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Short answer: Yes. Long answer: No properly made Android version should depend on certain files being present on the SD-card. CM7 is a "proper" version.
- Can I then start installing all the apps I want and then trying to copy only the folders containing for example the media and messages folders for Whatsapp back to the SD card to recover those on the fresh install?
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You should in most cases be able to do that, yes. You may run into trouble if you copy the data back after installing the app if it is running at the time. You may want to mount USB storage/copy data while in CWM to be sure that does not happen.
** What about the Factory data reset option in CyanogenMod? Is that something I can use for this? Will the phone be reset to "factory" with CyanogenMod installed and no other old files on it, so that everything is fresh and I can install my apps and then copy media/backup folders to get the apps running without problems and with my old media?
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Yes, you should be able to do this. (Be aware that a factory reset, whether built-on or CWM, does not delete anything on the SDcard.) Some apps may initialize their external storage on the first start, some apps may find inconsistencies in the external data, especially if they use som kind of secure or encrypted storage, but that is probably not very common

Fix for apps
... Follow the steps in my post above and then uninstall the effected app, reboot and install again.
If you have backed up the whatsapp folder. Put it back on the sdcard before running the newly installed whatsapp and it should ask to import the backed up files.
- I think it only works if you place the files back before running the freshly installed app.
I`m guessing you might have tried this already. Hope this helps
Like Testing7 said, the files visible on the sd card are safe to delete but erasing the sd and factory resetting is probably not necessary. Personally I backup my important folders.. whatsapp etc on the pc regularly and erase the sd all the time. Its not really neccessary and I do this because I like to keep it clean and its just a "bad" habit from testing out different roms. The folders there are generally just clutter and also use a minimum amount of space, so really it is up to you. They do build up again pretty fast so dont worry about it.
- If you are still having problems... Just start from scratch again
# Backup - SMS and apps... I use Sms/app backup and restore... 2 separate apps on market (both free).
# Copy necessary folders and files to pc - then erase SD
# Recovery - Wipe cache, factory reset, Dalvik, battery stats ... on full battery
# Reflash nightly cm7
# Change all settings like in my first post and then reinstall all apps and backup files.
# And remember to restore files first before running the apps for the first time

Internal Memory Full, Don't know what to do!

Hi All,
I have an LG L90 Device with a full Internal Memory. It has gotten to a point where I have to delete majority of my apps to get all my things syncing, but this is really becoming annoying to deal with now.
I do have a lot of apps (I guess 35+), but I never had an issue with Internal Memory becoming full in the past. I also have a 32 GB SD Card where I am saving all photos, videos, and music (though, I rely solely on Spotify now).
I had tried the Link2SD Method, but it isn't as effective for me, as the linked apps somehow stop responding and they just disappear on my phone, prompting me to reinstall.
I really want to fix this, as I love this phone, but just hate the fact that Lollipop will not let me automatically install all apps to the SD Card, and my Internal Memory is just full, restricting me from doing many things I would like to do with the phone.
I would love help here to fix these issues.

Hmm, Bump? Would love any possible help on fixing this issue...
Another thing I also wanted to bring up is that when I do link apps to my external SD card via LINK2SD those apps somehow become unlinked, I assume when the app updates they automatically go back to the internal memory? Not entirely sure...

me too
I think a lot of people have this issue with a "system data" checked on config =>storage, i just have install another time my lollipop 5.0.2, and right after install i checked and this system data was about 4,21 GB, i would be very happy if someone knows a way to delete, or give a way to make this ocupy less room.already did wipe cache, and nothing changed. Maybe flash a tiny rom that have all functions working on the phone, just to mention, already tried some, but always have to do an emergency flash with stock rom again. As my brother above, we waiting for some advice and tutorials !
Cheers all !

a program for Android like CCleaner would be great
would clean crap and uninstall unused APP residue
CCleaner APP might help you
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.piriform.ccleaner&hl=en
Peace
Ricci

a1yet said:
a program for Android like CCleaner would be great
would clean crap and uninstall unused APP residue
CCleaner APP might help you
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.piriform.ccleaner&hl=en
Peace
Ricci
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Thanks for the suggestion, unfortunately I have tried identical apps such as Clean Master, and it just cleans up small megabits of junk files, I am trying to find a way to at least free up a gigabyte of storage which for some complex reason seems like a really daunting task...

What have you done recently and when did you notice internal storage is full? Also what rom?
For me when I installed a custom rom for the first time, I believe that I had something extra in /cache/backup/ that caused the full storage. I believe it was a twrp backup.

hi all..anyone has the same problem??? i'm so angry, this phone is always full!!! and link2sd doesn't work

Link2SD works if you follow the instructions and have a partition on external SD formatted as ext4 (fat32 won't work to move apps). Or go to Marshmallow and use adopted storage. In any case make sure you got a reliable SD and at least Class10 speed.

lfom said:
Link2SD works if you follow the instructions and have a partition on external SD formatted as ext4 (fat32 won't work to move apps). Or go to Marshmallow and use adopted storage. In any case make sure you got a reliable SD and at least Class10 speed.
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is it possible to use adoptable storage lg l90? i read isn't supported by LG

marcus82 said:
is it possible to use adoptable storage lg l90? i read isn't supported by LG
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Yes, it's possible. I'm using it now with RR Marshmallow 6.0 1, TWRP 3.0.0 DarkBlue, Open Gapps and a 16GB Class10 SanDisk uSD.

lfom said:
Yes, it's possible. I'm using it now with RR Marshmallow 6.0 1, TWRP 3.0.0 DarkBlue, Open Gapps and a 16GB C10 SanDisk uSD.
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WOW.. is there a guide? thanks

Simply insert the uSD and go to Storage and USB, tap the 3 dots menu and format it to use as internal storage. It will format the card and move all data from /sdcard to it and movable apps to it if you choose to. You won't access internal memory anymore.
Make sure you use a fast and reliable card. Also check the pros and cons first.

lfom said:
Simply insert the uSD and go to Storage and USB, tap the 3 dots menu and format it to use as internal storage. It will format the card and move all data from /sdcard to it and movable apps to it if you choose to. You won't access internal memory anymore.
Make sure you use a fast and reliable card. Also check the pros and cons first.
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only a question: why You won't access internal memory anymore. ?
by file manager with root it will be impossibile to view internal memory? only sdcard ll be accessible?

Internal memory will be used to apps and apps data only, no user accessible files or folders. Of course you can use a file manager with root access to browse the files/folders, but all user files will be on uSD (it will become /sdcard).
PS: as I said, Marshmallow will format your uSD, so copy any file you may need first.

Oook thanks

all it works!!! now my girlfriend's phone has enough memory!!!! great thanks a lot!

Changing internal SD to portable storage for root

I want to flash Xposed Framework and some other things to my phone, but I figured out that TWRP cannot find my zips in the internal SD card. I think I need to change my internal SD card back to portable storage in order to flash things. I backed up my data (Nandroid) so when I do change my SD card to portable, I can recover everything. Will changing my SD card affect SuperSU or anything on my phone?

fairnightzz said:
I want to flash Xposed Framework and some other things to my phone, but I figured out that TWRP cannot find my zips in the internal SD card. I think I need to change my internal SD card back to portable storage in order to flash things. I backed up my data (Nandroid) so when I do change my SD card to portable, I can recover everything. Will changing my SD card affect SuperSU or anything on my phone?
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I did that few days ago, I rooted 7 days ago , and find out that in MM you can format sd card as internal memory. Wasn't with android for the last 2 years and i am learning every day about new features that i missed.
I formatted sdcard to internal and coudn't flash enything, however if you copy that zip to /data folder you can see it. Huge problem is that nandroid cannot be performed, I usually have 2 backups always and with 5GB of availabole memory, and 2-3 gigs are already taken it is impossible to backup my system which takes around 3 GB of data, even more .
I was thinking about getting USB OTG cable and external flash for nandroid and dflashing things, but still I am looking for some news about TWRP support for internal memory in some new editions.
When I switched back to normal mode ( sdcard as portable storage ) I didn't lost anything, only thing that you want to take care of is that when you are ready to switch back your sdcard as a portable, to perform migrate option and leave phone to do it ( 5 minutes ), to free sdcard and move back data to internal ( if there is a space enoough on internal so that is one more problem to care about.
I also asked this question and got no answers, but I really do like to know how other members manage their free space with this MM stuff, which is good but very limiting so far.

dejson said:
I did that few days ago, I rooted 7 days ago , and find out that in MM you can format sd card as internal memory. Wasn't with android for the last 2 years and i am learning every day about new features that i missed.
I formatted sdcard to internal and coudn't flash enything, however if you copy that zip to /data folder you can see it. Huge problem is that nandroid cannot be performed, I usually have 2 backups always and with 5GB of availabole memory, and 2-3 gigs are already taken it is impossible to backup my system which takes around 3 GB of data, even more .
I was thinking about getting USB OTG cable and external flash for nandroid and dflashing things, but still I am looking for some news about TWRP support for internal memory in some new editions.
When I switched back to normal mode ( sdcard as portable storage ) I didn't lost anything, only thing that you want to take care of is that when you are ready to switch back your sdcard as a portable, to perform migrate option and leave phone to do it ( 5 minutes ), to free sdcard and move back data to internal ( if there is a space enoough on internal so that is one more problem to care about.
I also asked this question and got no answers, but I really do like to know how other members manage their free space with this MM stuff, which is good but very limiting so far.
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So if I move the zip to the data folder, I can flash? If so, could you show me step by step, because I tried but it wouldn't let me copy or paste anything. If not, I could just backup my photos (all other data not important), redownload the apps from the playstore, then just use link2sd to move the apps to portable SD card.

fairnightzz said:
So if I move the zip to the data folder, I can flash? If so, could you show me step by step, because I tried but it wouldn't let me copy or paste anything. If not, I could just backup my photos (all other data not important), redownload the apps from the playstore, then just use link2sd to move the apps to portable SD card.
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Wll actually i found that here post #6, you have to use root explorer or similar app.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one-m8/help/internal-storage-twrp-external-sd-card-t3242540
You can save apks with titanium backup and restore it with update.zip option ( to save a lot of time of redownloading apps.
link2sd doesn't work with MM, requires that micro sd is formatted as internal.
There is workaround and I will maybe test this tonight and will let you know if it works.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=65411424&postcount=19

Thanks, dejson! I figured out that I wasn't using a root explorer, so I downloaded Solid Explorer and moved the zip to data/media and it worked! Thanks a lot for helping me!

fairnightzz said:
Thanks, dejson! I figured out that I wasn't using a root explorer, so I downloaded Solid Explorer and moved the zip to data/media and it worked! Thanks a lot for helping me!
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Uhm, there is a thank you button also available .
Glad you did it mate, I tested everything with sdcard formatted as internal, but losing option to perform nandroid is not the compromise that I am able to consider.
I was very tired last night and accidentally deleted a lot of things from sdcard which was formatted as internal, I forgot to migrate data, but luckily fresh nandroid backup was taken just before testing and saved to laptop.
I can confirm that after installing apps2sd from playstore, and after that I installed link2sd and boom, the app is working good. This kernel supposedly doesn't have init.d enabled [decypher] so I need to test even more because even when it was working every few minutes i was receiving message from system that sdcard is corrupted and some minor errors.
This idea about first installing apps2sd is something that I found somewhere, and it is not my invention. So I think that after some more testing I week find a way to finally utilize my big sdcard.