What are you doing exactly when you lower it, and what do you get from it?
I saw a few threads about it but they're all procedures and instructions.
It just makes things on the screen smaller. You can therefore fit more stuff on the screen, if you are using a launcher that allows adjustable row/column settings.
Beware however that TouchWiz looks pretty nasty on non stock settings. Also the dialler and other bits and pieces won't display correctly. You can however adjust it back again.
It is most useful to me where it can display much more in the same screen area. Some apps are not multidpi friendly and do not show correctly, eg the dailer and some games.
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It just makes things on the screen smaller. You can therefore fit more stuff on the screen, if you are using a launcher that allows adjustable row/column settings.
Beware however that TouchWiz looks pretty nasty on non stock settings. Also the dialler and other bits and pieces won't display correctly. You can however adjust it back again.
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When you say "it just makes things on the screen smaller," is it the icons or other stuff onscreen getting smaller or the screen getting bigger? I'm using GoLauncher EX and I was wondering about that setting on custom rows/columns that goes up to 10. I was wondering how would that fit.
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It is most useful to me where it can display much more in the same screen area. Some apps are not multidpi friendly and do not show correctly, eg the dailer and some games.
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So also I guess that's why a lot of the "lower DPI"-related threads are about looking for compatible apps. Thanks!
Do many people tweak their DPI? Can you share examples of significant advantages of doing so that's worth the hassle of looking for apps/themes that would work on the adjusted DPI? Thanks again!
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It just makes things on the screen smaller. You can therefore fit more stuff on the screen, if you are using a launcher that allows adjustable row/column settings.
Beware however that TouchWiz looks pretty nasty on non stock settings. Also the dialler and other bits and pieces won't display correctly. You can however adjust it back again.
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You're everywhere, nobnut! (Sorry for the off-topic)
Anyway, I hope soon everything will be smooth when changing dpi (maybe CM port or ICS). It's really useful for us with good sighting, I've been using my HD2 at 160 dpi instead of 240 and it's not only neater on the homescreen but very useful in some apps (and a less toyish aspect )
I suddenly want to switch to 240 DPI but the effort scares me.
Found this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1369162&page=2
I don't like how it doesn't work for some apps as of now, though I never heard of Samsung ever accommodating DPI changes? That's why I didn't learn of this from somewhere else before the forums. :O
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I suddenly want to switch to 240 DPI but the effort scares me.
Found this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1369162&page=2
I don't like how it doesn't work for some apps as of now, though I never heard of Samsung ever accommodating DPI changes? That's why I didn't learn of this from somewhere else before the forums. :O
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Just try this app: https://market.android.com/details?...wxLDIxMiwiY29tLmlubm9kcm9pZC5kcGljaGFuZ2VyIl0.
It's easy as hell, you can try and then undo effortlessly. But I'm sticking to 320 until... until I try again 240
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When you say "it just makes things on the screen smaller," is it the icons or other stuff onscreen getting smaller or the screen getting bigger? I'm using GoLauncher EX and I was wondering about that setting on custom rows/columns that goes up to 10. I was wondering how would that fit.
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Everything is smaller. Everything.
Yes, Go Launcher looks good at a lower dpi once you have set the rows and columns. Shortcuts, texts, widgets etc will all display as smaller.
For example O at 320 might look like o at 240.
To edit, there are apps to use (if you are noob ). The best way is to open the build.prop file in the 'system' folder, find the line ro.sf.lcd_density=320 and change the 320 to your value... then reboot.
Just remember the default value is 320 if you want to return again.
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Just try this app: https://market.android.com/details?...wxLDIxMiwiY29tLmlubm9kcm9pZC5kcGljaGFuZ2VyIl0.
It's easy as hell, you can try and then undo effortlessly. But I'm sticking to 320 until... until I try again 240
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Everything is smaller. Everything.
Yes, Go Launcher looks good at a lower dpi once you have set the rows and columns. Shortcuts, texts, widgets etc will all display as smaller.
For example O at 320 might look like o at 240.
To edit, there are apps to use (if you are noob ). The best way is to open the build.prop file in the 'system' folder, find the line ro.sf.lcd_density=320 and change the 320 to your value... then reboot.
Just remember the default value is 320 if you want to return again.
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Thanks for the link but I don't think that changing the DPI itself is any difficult. It's cleaning up the possible mess after, with changing the incompatible apps. I've heard some of them won't work right on different DPIs. Is there a thread for that around here?
Also, I read one about S-Memo not working nicely, and I use that app a LOT, so I guess I'll be monitoring what they do in that thread too.
I do like how it looks like though. Makes me feel the phone is even bigger.
At 240 (default DPI for 800x480) "all" (can't tell for sure) apps will work. Everything also looks good since, again, it's the default Android DPI and some UI elements will look like crap if you set it to 260 or so. Try out the app and see if you like it. If not just reboot the phone and it'll be back to normal.
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Wait... Need some clarification about this... I've gotten some games in the market before and I uninstalled them because they didn't go full screen. They left like a fourth of the screen unoccupied and simply black. If I switched to 240, you think they would take the full screen?
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no. for example, live holdem pro looks the same crap on 320 and 240 too
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That's not nice. Are there any workarounds for such apps? I thought DPI would be a solution.
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Has anyone had success with the LDC Density app? My friend used it on his galaxy s it was pretty cool
I tried it and my phone just froze. Had to do a battery pull to fix it.
Yes, im rooted.
this has been answered multiple times in a few thread.
maybe if you tried searching you'd have an answer.
Froze on my rooted TB with Adrynalyne's Rom. Curious to see if anyone has this working.
Didn't work for me either. Just manually edited /system/build.prop to change it around. Messes with the look of the Sense Clock Widget, and certain skins for the SenseUI.
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Didn't work for me either. Just manually edited /system/build.prop to change it around. Messes with the look of the Sense Clock Widget, and certain skins for the SenseUI.
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where in the build.prop do you edit the file?
nm found the line. it was obvious enough
FWIW 190 has been a good number for me. I was at 200 for awhile, set it at 190 today and it runs pretty well.
So I take it you aren't running Sense then? Because anything lower than 240 messed up the flip clock and some of the themes bar at the bottom.
I am sure I am not alone when I say this but does anybody know why the fonts on the screen are so massive? Was this phone originally intended for people with failing vision?
Why, with such a lot of real estate, doesn't htc squeeze in more info into the screen so that we lessen scrolling? Beats the hell out of me.... Its irritating to say the least. The net effect is that I have a bigger phone than the inc but I have exactly the same amount of info on the screen. I really do not see the point...
Rant over - now how do we lower font size and line spacing without messing everything up. Any easy fixes? In the uber z rom for the inc, gmichaelow made a zip that changed font sizes and line spacing to much lower levels without messing anything up. So its possible. LCD density is definitely not the answer.
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I am sure I am not alone when I say this but does anybody know why the fonts on the screen are so massive? Was this phone originally intended for people with failing vision?
Why, with such a lot of real estate, doesn't htc squeeze in more info into the screen so that we lessen scrolling? Beats the hell out of me.... Its irritating to say the least. The net effect is that I have a bigger phone than the inc but I have exactly the same amount of info on the screen. I really do not see the point...
Rant over - now how do we lower font size and line spacing without messing everything up. Any easy fixes? In the uber z rom for the inc, gmichaelow made a zip that changed font sizes and line spacing to much lower levels without messing anything up. So its possible. LCD density is definitely not the answer.
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I thought the exact same thing, my Droid has a higher resolution than the Thunderbolt (480x854 for OG Droid vs. 480x800 for Thunderbolt). Everything was blown up like crazy. I don't understand why they wouldn't have gone higher for a crisper look to rival the sleek look of the iPhone. There should be font packs out there, but I'm not sure where yet. Lowering my density to 190 definitely looks a lot better for everything but the notification bar icons. I'm going to look into smaller fonts as well, but for now, I'm happy with the lowered density, as it also makes things on screen look more crisp.
I've heard people talk about this in the past, but never fully understood what it did? Any explanation of what this actually does is appreciated. Thanks in advance
Just look at my picture compared to the stock setup. Mine is much crisper and smaller. It's like upping the resolution basically.
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I thought the exact same thing, my Droid has a higher resolution than the Thunderbolt (480x854 for OG Droid vs. 480x800 for Thunderbolt). Everything was blown up like crazy. I don't understand why they wouldn't have gone higher for a crisper look to rival the sleek look of the iPhone. There should be font packs out there, but I'm not sure where yet. Lowering my density to 190 definitely looks a lot better for everything but the notification bar icons. I'm going to look into smaller fonts as well, but for now, I'm happy with the lowered density, as it also makes things on screen look more crisp.
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Thanks. Will try this. Hopefully it does not mess any widgets.
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Lcd density just hangs on my phone. I'm running storm. Anybody else manage to get it working on that rom?
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Does anyone have themes out for specific lowered densities? I have found that when I lower the density, the bottom dock (Where the phone, app tray and personalize button are) looks disconnected and not very nice. Only thing holding me back.
Is there a way to keep with the stock launcher and theme it so it fits or would I be forced to switch to another launcher to alleviate that problem?
going to give this a try and see how it goees
i tried 225, 220, 210 and would rather just leave it at stock 240 than have blurry status bar icons...that drives me nuts and makes the phone look like ****..the rest of the screen looked perfect at 225 for me tho..
I run at 190. I used to run at 140 on my dinc. I hate big resolutions. I don't use the sense launcher so I don't have aproblem with it getting messed up
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Even manually editing the build prop (CHMOD 777) I'm unable to get the changes to take effect. Any advice?
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Even manually editing the build prop (CHMOD 777) I'm unable to get the changes to take effect. Any advice?
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Use root explorer, find build.prop, open it in a text editor, change the line that says LCD density. Save and exit, reboot. Done.
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Use root explorer, find build.prop, open it in a text editor, change the line that says LCD density. Save and exit, reboot. Done.
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Yeah thats what I meant by manually changing the build prop.
I just flashed CM7 on my Nook Color last night. While it looks and works great on the 7" screen I did notice some things were a bit too small and hard to read. You can always increase font sizes in specific applications but that's not a consistent solution to the problem. After experimenting with different DPIs, I found 187 to be okay but still a bit too small in some areas, 240 to be too large, and 204 to be just about perfect, allowing me to keep font sizes set to normal in applications and the handle on the notification tray remains in the center. Blurriness hasn't bothered me too much yet. I'm curious what values other people are using.
As an aside, why does increasing the DPI make elements larger and not the reverse? Thinking of it as "dots per inch," I would think more dots within an inch means a rendered element would fit into a smaller space...
Honestly, I've found the default 161 quite usable so I haven't played with it for quite some time.
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Honestly, I've found the default 161 quite usable so I haven't played with it for quite some time.
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Ditto. 240 (and such) just create icons wayyyy to big for me. I have a high res screen, i want to use it as such.
I personally like 140, however you lose "My Apps" ability in the market at this DPI.
The default 161 with a different font applied works for me. (The font is mentone, in case you were wondering.)
I tried 180 for awhile but that screwed up the formatting on a lot of apps.
Default for me. Tried many others and they either made the icons look big and stupid or really screwed up formatting in some apps.
I've been using 187 for about a month now. I think it looks nice, and really helps with the close-to-edge unresponsiveness by having slightly bigger objects to poke. I enjoy spending unreasonable amounts of time crafting custom UI's, and certain setups really pop with higher LCD density settings. I ran 210 for a while combined with a really sleek super simple interface. Ended up scraping it because it required an insane amount of widgets and 500 megs of RAM just wasn't enough.
Play around with the popular settings. Personal preference trumps what ever you'll read here.
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I just stick with 161.
Still rocking the Incredible with the XDA Premium App.
I need to use 160 for some apps to go fullscreen (Google Reader & FieldRunners). But this kills My Apps in the market. Does anyone know a DPI that will scale these apps correctly and keep the market working 100%?
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I need to use 160 for some apps to go fullscreen (Google Reader & FieldRunners). But this kills My Apps in the market. Does anyone know a DPI that will scale these apps correctly and keep the market working 100%?
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Fieldrunners works at any DPI if you turn off compatibility mode. The only fix for GoogleReader is to use a different program
Market works fine at 161+
Thanks for the info on the game. I'm going to reboot and try that out now. I used to love that game on my iPod Touch.
I figured the Reader app just hasn't been updated in forever is why. I'll stick with my 161 then. I like the size of everything on the screen and it's still comfortable for me to read.
I use the default setting..
If you have the new Market, I would recommend using 160.
160 will be the new default as soon as more folks get the update Market.
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If you have the new Market, I would recommend using 160.
160 will be the new default as soon as more folks get the update Market.
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My first thought when the new Market appeared was, "OMG I hope it works at 160 so I can have both my Market and Google Reader working at the same time!"
And.... so far so good! Woooooooooooooot!
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If you have the new Market, I would recommend using 160.
160 will be the new default as soon as more folks get the update Market.
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SiMi clock doesn't display correctly at 160.
It doesn't display correctly at 161, either, but it's worse at 160.
161 leaves a column of pixels unused on the right side in portrait, where the wallpaper shows through the clock's background.
160 makes the clock's background very thick, and overlaps my power button widget in landscape mode.
I've been using 169. This creates the least bit of widget overlap between the clock and power bar, and also makes the clock cover the entire row in portrait. It makes desktop icons a tad blurry, though. Everything else displays fine.
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My first thought when the new Market appeared was, "OMG I hope it works at 160 so I can have both my Market and Google Reader working at the same time!"
And.... so far so good! Woooooooooooooot!
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Sorry to burst your balloon. After a couple of reboots, My apps disappears (just like before).
Hi All,
Just switch my GNote DPI to 240, and it looks pretty good, so I might keep it that way. I'm wondering if this will have any ill effect on the screen in the long run?
Thank you.
Nope, but it might have on your eyes due to having to squint all the time to see anything
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Hi, I have never mess with DPI before. What are the benefit of changing from 320 to 240? I should try it but will wait for explaination first.
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Hi All,
Just switch my GNote DPI to 240, and it looks pretty good, so I might keep it that way. I'm wondering if this will have any ill effect on the screen in the long run?
Thank you.
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Hi, I have never mess with DPI before. What are the benefit of changing from 320 to 240? I should try it but will wait for explaination first.
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Their isnt any big differences... 240 dpi is smaller. .so for some people it wont be sweet.. But for me its good.. And it also saves a lot of space on your phone screen and makes your phone look more tab like. .custom launchers are also smoother on 240 dpi... So y dont you just try it..?if you dont like it go back to default 320dpi...
Thank you. Will check it out.
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Their isnt any big differences... 240 dpi is smaller. .so for some people it wont be sweet.. But for me its good.. And it also saves a lot of space on your phone screen and makes your phone look more tab like. .custom launchers are also smoother on 240 dpi... So y dont you just try it..?if you dont like it go back to default 320dpi...
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Most apps in the market appear incompatible for me when I had it at 280. I gave up in the end, even though it was definitely smoother. I also had far more space on the notification bar, which is now very crowded and things keep getting pushed off
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Most apps in the market appear incompatible for me when I had it at 280. I gave up in the end, even though it was definitely smoother. I also had far more space on the notification bar, which is now very crowded and things keep getting pushed off
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240 has the best market compatibility
Yes, 160, 240 and 320 DPI are the ones that are genuinely supported by Android, so if you're using something else, a lot of apps won't work correctly.
240 dpi will also make most 3rd party launchers smoother on the scroll
and real estate, real estate, real estate.
320dpi is wasted on a screen the size of the note.
eyesight's taking a hit though haha
240 is nice, yes
The phone does seem more snappy once again.
I will try to train my aging eyes to this format!
240 is perfect for the note. looks insanely gorgeous the screen and visuals.
just the dialer doesnt seem to work correctly in portrait mode. any help on that?
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240 is perfect for the note. looks insanely gorgeous the screen and visuals.
just the dialer doesnt seem to work correctly in portrait mode. any help on that?
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Agreed. it look really fine!
I just tried the stock phone app, and I see the dial screen is not adjusting, whereas all the others are. I typically use the Go dialer as it allows themes (and you do not need Go Launcher to run it). That is fine with 240.
On my note, setting it to 240 dpi using lcd density changer causes the home screen to shrink to about 60% the total size of the screen.
If I hit applications to go to the menu again, same behaviour there, is this expected, if not how do I fix it?
May I ask what launcher and other apps do you guys use to get full 240dpi without the graphical glitches?
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On my note, setting it to 240 dpi using lcd density changer causes the home screen to shrink to about 60% the total size of the screen.
If I hit applications to go to the menu again, same behaviour there, is this expected, if not how do I fix it?
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Check out TouchWiz 4.5 or use ADW, LauncherPro or GO Launcher.
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May I ask what launcher and other apps do you guys use to get full 240dpi without the graphical glitches?
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Check out TouchWiz 4.5 or use ADW, LauncherPro or GO Launcher.
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Do I have to do any modification on the TW 4.5? Cuz its still the issue that the launcher is not fullscreen
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May I ask what launcher and other apps do you guys use to get full 240dpi without the graphical glitches?
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I use ssLauncher. It gives me full control over everything on the screen, and allows resizing of almost any widget. It works well at any resolution.
It also has vertical scrolling for all screens, if you want that. It is not for everyone, but great for OCD users!
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Do I have to do any modification on the TW 4.5? Cuz its still the issue that the launcher is not fullscreen
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Hmm, i haven't tried it myself, but i've heard that it should work with 240 DPI. But if it doesn't work then i'm not sure what can be done.
Can't you use ADW, Go Launcher or another one, or don't you like them?
I was just missing the S Planner Widget ^^
but I will use Go Launcher. It has also a pretty calender widget
240 is too small for me
I just cannot read enough, especially system menus, at 240. The notification bar is also too small. I moved to this beast because I was sick of having to take my glasses off to read my Xperia Arc easily.
I'll settle for 320, although it does kind of irritate me having seen what the Note is truly capable of. Still, it is very easy for me to read, and that is important to me.
Greetings, lovely xda community!
I am very happy with all the solutions and innovations I find on these forums.. I am on Ultimate v5 at the moment..
Lately, caught more of the DPI changing texts, from 320 to 240..
But, apparently these is DPI change for apps and for the whole screen of the Note..
So, since my understanding is limited, what I hope to be able to do is to change general DPI of the screen, so that I would be able to put more apps per one homescreen.. I mean, I like Note`s big screen real estate, but there is too much empty space between the apps icons, so maybe something like 6x6 would be better than the usual 5x5... (hmm. I wanted to add attachment of my screenshots of the present state of my screen and homescreens/app icons, but none of the message edit and attachment buttons do not work )..
Anyway, I tried some dpi changers and density changers from Play store.. Boy, I barely managed to get the phone working normally again.. I just made the keyboard pop up with massive numbers and only upper 30 percent of the normal keyboard..
now back to normal..
so, how can I do it? I do not need to run tablet apps,so I do not need dpi change that allows me to download tablet apps from play store..
I would like to fit more icons on the homescreen...
How is that done?
By the way, I did google and search this forum, but it mostly speaks about dpi change for apps..
And ok, there is the "edit build prop", but is that what I need for my intentions, and how can I do it.. and possible negative consequences?
Thanks for stopping and answering!
Peace out...
Hi there, some apps look better in certain dpi modes than others.
I suggest you look at the rom "paranoid android 3 build by beerbong" in the original android development section of the n7000 forum at xda.
Its an aosp rom (google android without the samsung stuff) and it allows changing the dpi of the whole phone (phone, phablet and tablet mode) and changing the dpi of apps alone.
Its a work of art and i suggest you take a look at that rather than messing around with buildprop editors. Goodluck!
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Hi there, some apps look better in certain dpi modes than others.
I suggest you look at the rom "paranoid android 3 build by beerbong" in the original android development section of the n7000 forum at xda.
Its an aosp rom (google android without the samsung stuff) and it allows changing the dpi of the whole phone (phone, phablet and tablet mode) and changing the dpi of apps alone.
Its a work of art and i suggest you take a look at that rather than messing around with buildprop editors. Goodluck!
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Thanks for the reply.. But, I kind of reeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaallllllyyyyyyyyy like to have Touchwiz...
i know its too soon,am so far liking everything about the one ui,but app icons are hugely ugly,is there any way to shrink them on the nav bar and inside the app drawer.
i tried increasing the dpi in dev options it didnt affect them.
thanks
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i know its too soon,am so far liking everything about the one ui,but app icons are hugely ugly,is there any way to shrink them on the nav bar and inside the app drawer.
i tried increasing the dpi in dev options it didnt affect them.
thanks
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Or, just go Settings-Home Screen- and change home and apps screen grid. much easier
^^^This was easier, but I then realized my fat fingers kept hitting the wrong app when I'm not focused on what I'm doing, so I had to revert back to 4x5 arrangement. I prefered the Oreo icons, and want those back (even if it is a theme).
set your dpi to 510, it makes the phone even looks like it came from the future... very sharp and awesome