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Non-Sprint HTC Hero

I have a non sprint unbranded HTC Hero (through GCI in alaska). Does anyone know if a non-sprint htc hero can flash a sprint rom and still work on a non sprint network? I have been using the leaked modified ROMs such as damage control and fresh just fine but I was told using the sprint one may jack up my phone. Since the customized ROMs are now being based off that I am worried about downloading any new ROMs or the official sprint one. Anyone happen to know?
THANK YOU!

arktik said:
I have a non sprint unbranded HTC Hero (through GCI in alaska). Does anyone know if a non-sprint htc hero can flash a sprint rom and still work on a non sprint network? I have been using the leaked modified ROMs such as damage control and fresh just fine but I was told using the sprint one may jack up my phone. Since the customized ROMs are now being based off that I am worried about downloading any new ROMs or the official sprint one. Anyone happen to know?
THANK YOU!
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This is more or less belongs in the q&a section. But to answer your question yes it will. You will have to get your apn settings and manually program them in your phone. But everything else should work. I would suggest you use the flashrec method and make a nandroid then try apn manager to see if you can just put your apn settings on your new rom

I am still new to CDMA phones. When you say APN settings do you mean the settings the carrier puts in when they program it at the desk. Such as the MIN # and such?
And when you say flash rec method, you mean copying over the ROM file to the SD card and doing the whole power+volume then pressing home and flashing from feature thing?
And if thats the case, does that mean ill have to use one of these custom ROMs here and not the sprint one? (I havent tried installing the sprint one but in the past its usually an executible and runs itself)
Thx for answering all my noob question, someone else did the rooting for my phone and im slowly learning. Never been too great at the phone thing.

I just reread your first post and you say that you've used damages rom and not had any problems then you should be good to use any rom just make sure to do a nandroid backup before you do anything else

thatguythatdid said:
I just reread your first post and you say that you've used damages rom and not had any problems then you should be good to use any rom just make sure to do a nandroid backup before you do anything else
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I've really been doing this whole root thing because I wanted 2.1 early, but now that sprint has released an official one id really like to use it. Do you think its safe to use the official one on my non sprint hero?
Thx again for all your help, im just worried about bricking my phone or making it unusable on my network.

ok so i'm stumped on activating a sprint phone

I recently sold my hero to a guy. here's the problem, he's having issues activating it on his account. in my mind i'm thinking it's because it's running the 2.2 froyo CM6 extremely blue and there's no access to the ## codes. i'm not nearly as well versed with android as i am with blackberry and winmo. i hate starting new threads but i can't find anything on this except that a sprint based rom "should" have the ## codes in it. He doesn't want to flash it back to stock and lose root access. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

This is what he has to do:
1) Nandroid to create a backup of the system as-is.
2) Wipe and reinstall a rom based on Sense -- don't use Sprint's RUU or any updates from them. When I did this, I nandroided back to an old copy of Fresh 1.5. But any version of Sense should work. Just make sure it's not from Sprint. Check the Development forum in this CDMA section and pick one.
3) Once that is up and running, he can use the ## codes in the Sense dialer app to do whatever he needs to do to provision the phone.
4) Reboot phone into recovery mode and wipe. Don't worry, wiping does not clear out anything done with ## codes.
5) Restore from the Nandroid backup created earlier. Reboot and wait while the phone rebuilds the cache files. Could take 10 minutes to do this.
6) Phone should now be working.

see i haven't messed with nandroid backups, but he hasn't had a chance to really set anything up on the phone. could we just wipe the phone, flash something like damage control (2.1 sprint based sense), get the phone programmed, then flash back to the 2.2?

Yeah but it would probably just be easier to nand backup, lash a sprint based ROM, then nand restore when finished.

ok last question (i think). and recommendations on a sprint based rom that definitely has the ## codes in it? it's hard for me to get internet access at my job so i kinda have to dl to my sd card before i go in. i already have damagecontrol on the card if that would work?

p3tr0s said:
ok last question (i think). and recommendations on a sprint based rom that definitely has the ## codes in it? it's hard for me to get internet access at my job so i kinda have to dl to my sd card before i go in. i already have damagecontrol on the card if that would work?
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DC should work fine.

awesome guys thanks. i'll post back after i make the attempt

[Q] Which rom- thats the question

Hello everyone.
I am new to the world of flashing android, I used to flash my previous htc windows phones all the time. I'm currently running IceRom, something one of my friends found off here a long while back.
Can anyone recommend a good stable rom that looks nice ? I have been looking over all the newer ones but I think I want something more established.

What tickles your fancy?
Vanilla Android or Sense Based?
Built in Overclock Kernels or Flashing one of the undervolted/OC goodies that are in plentiful abundance?
That will help start to narrow it down

uhhhh..... well i never know what I'm using so it doesnt really matter. The icerom im using now has a lot of glitches its android 2.2 (think?) the video camera doesnt work on it and i cant play music from myxer (it doesnt support .dm filetype) so it really drives me nuts...
honestly i dont know the difference between vanilla and sense, so anything goes.

Cyanogenmod 6:HERE
icerom is 2.1 aosp ithink you wont go wrong wit cm6

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Cyanogenmod 6:HERE
icerom is 2.1 aosp ithink you wont go wrong wit cm6
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I agree... CM6 is the best, and darch has his rc1 out now, so its extremely stable
Sent from my HTC Hero running froyo: take that, Sprint!

If you want to try a good stock rom that comes with apps 2sd go with nfinitefx45's stock .6 odex rom its awesome and gives you the beautiful htc sense!

ok C-6 it is... so another n00b question (Sorry guys, the hero is the first android phone ive had!)
on the c-6 posting it says to update radio if you need to. I dont even know what version I am running let alone how to flash a radio. My last friend who knew how to flash them told me not to flash my radio cuz its a good way to brick my phone.
And seeing as how this would be my first time flashing ANDROID im not sure i should flash a radio without supervision lol

Be careful if you start flashing your radio. If you flash one from a gms hero you can brick your phone.
If you go to "settings>about phone>software info>baseband version" that should be your radio I believe.

ok then im using
baseband version:
1.04.01.09.21
sound right?

i downloaded the C6 rom- but does anyone know a good android syncing software i can use to transfer the rom to my phone? again im not trying to annoy anyone. Once Ive learned the process once I will be able to do it again and again. With windows it was easy there was a program that did everything for you beside the hard reset.
btw is a wipe and a hard reset the same thing or no

Yeah sounds right. Here's where I got my updated radio from - http://geekfor.me/category/hero/radios/

ok awesome looks good. Is it required to flash a radio or no? like will it affect the rom's awesomeness

those radios are all for android 2.1 but it says c6 is android 2.2

Lol, I don't think its required to flash a new radio. I think you find a radio that gives you good signal strength and then you stick with it. I could be completely talking outta my ass though...

alright guys who've helped- thankyou!!
i figured out how to sync my phone using sugarsync so i can update my radio and rom. now im just going to follow flashing directions from c6 thread,
will post back with an update when its done...

ok this is rediculous.... this is the most time consuming thing ive ever tried to do with my phone. I couldnt transfer the c6 zip from sugarsync to my phone so i had to email it to myself...and took forever for my phone to download it. NOW the file is stuck in my download folder and for some reason i cannot move it or copy/paste it to the root folder.
btw, my root folder is NOT in the sd folder.
anyone know how im supposed to get the new rom into my root!????????????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!

download the ROM
copy the .zip file over to your phones SD card in the root directory
Unplug your phone and turn it off
Hold power and home until you boot into Recovery
Select the option to flash zip
find your ROM and press the trackball and when its done reboot
that should work lol.

omgomg!!! i figured it out lol i noticed my old rom zip was in the sd directory so i "copied" c6 to that same spot and was able to boot from that. Restarted my phone, and its currently booting up with cyanogen 6!!
I have successfully flashed my first android phone....

now that thats done...anyone know where i can find the MARKET on cyanogen??

in his thread theres a link for something called "google sh*ts" or something.
Its all the google apps, like gmail and youtube and stuff
you have to download that and flash it and then restart the phone and theyll all show up.
Thats the rom i was using n_n

[Q] Custom Rom on A854 (Want Froyo)

ok guys i have looked EVERYWHERE. I joined this forum just to ask this question, as the name suggests, i was a recent iphone/ipod touch jailbreaker and just recently switched to android, and am currently not very familiar with the terminology and exploits..
I have been using a rooted A854 on Ntelos. It is a pretty locally based company near charlottesville, va. It is quite similar to telus in canada, but with very close ties to sprint in the shenandoah valley.
when i originally tried to root via a vulnerable recovery with rsd lite and a froyo, prerooted version, it kept failing so my friend downloaded and installed universal androot which worked like a charm. The only thing was that nandroid wasnt possible via that method, and i still didnt have Froyo.
Recently, when i installed ROM manager, I was able to flash Clockworkmod's open recovery, and was able to successfully make a nandroid. I am however interested in installing a custom ROM with froyo.
I have looked into Motofrenzy and Cyanogen 6 (unofficial port for Milestone)[/URL] which were available via nandroid restore.
When i was looking it was telling me to put the file for the rom in nandroid/adbrecovery but i have no such location on my sd card.
It also says that in order for me to maintain 3g access, i need the local 3g band file, which is also not available from the rom sites.
if anyone was successful in flashing a custom rom to the A854 via nandroid restore with custom 3g bands, could you please help me.
Also any additional help would be appreciated...
Thanks in advance
~iphoneconvert
Links:
android DOT doshaska DOT net/cm6
dext3r DOT komodin DOT org/

i also have da same phone with ntelos its really a rebranded moto droid not milestone which is a gsm phone so only flash droid roms . in clockwork mod after flashing recovery go to back up current rom and do a nandroid back up . because it only gives da sdcard about 20 sec. to mount it usually say error cant mount just quickly hold down x and power and it will boot into recovery on da second try . go down 2 nandroid do a back up then reboot in clockwork go 2 download a rom and flash away

so your saying that i need to boot into recovery twice? and yeah i know its a rebranded droid but i thought that i needed roms for the milestone (i guess they were referring to the gsm version). Are you sure that any droid rom will work? Because the bootloader is locked down and the roms depend on changing that correct?

OK. i think i found out one of my problems. Since my friend and i were never able to successfully flash a vulnerable recovery, my phones recovery mode kept booting into android default. I had an update.zip with GOTS recovery in it and it would fail signiture verification, but when i booted into recovery through rom manager it would let me into clockworkmods recovery... i updated to it there and it went through so i think i can flash a rom now... if only i werent so chicken

yeah droid1 roms (cdma) i don't know much about open recovery or vulnerable recovery i just used androot 1 click root to get root then used rom manager to flash clockwork mod recovery did a nandroid and been rom surfing ever sense. im on like my 4th 854 and they all have dat boot twice issue it only when u try to like install a rom straight from clockwork

Man, i can not tell you how much you helped me, i have searched everywhere for weeks for what you just told me!
So i can just install roms straight from rom manager and they will all work? freaking beast. Thanks a ton
Oh and btw if you havent overclocked i recommend you do so with an app from the market, milestone overclock... SO HELPFUL, it makes the phone so much faster... i have it set to 1200 mhz and 80 vsel with no distinct loss in battery life.

so which roms have you been using and how did you get froyo

i have da paid version of rom manager so i just flash overclocking kernels from there to go with wuteva rom i flash cause most custom roms max at 800mhz just make sure it says kernels for any rom . i been using a rom i got from the custom rom section on the droid forums called ultimate droid 2.1.0 really customizable if dats a word lol

Ntelos
So you have th ntelos milestone using a custom rom, how did you get your data and mms working ? Do you have the APN setting for ntelos?

I dont have to change those? my data worked but I didn't try mms
Sent from my A854 using XDA App

ntelos
Ahh ok I just finished flashing to cm6.1 and it works flawless then you simply go to voice dial and say open apn's and edit the mms setting to be ----mms.ntelospcs.net then all is well, I have voice, data, and mms all working.

so m tried froyo but it wouldn't recognize my sd... I got back by putting in my other sd and installing cyanogen 5 again... i really want cyanogen 6.1... ugh... imma try again to update to froyo but with my other sd
Sent from my A854 using XDA App

flash back 2 your stock ntelos rom click on voice dialer it should say " say a command " then you say "open APN's" sometimes it takes a couple of tries but it will show a list of APN settings copy it down on a piece of paper . now when you flash another rom do the same thing with da voice dialer but change da settings from verizon to da ntelos settings you wrote down press menu click save changes . reboot now you should have mms working . hope this helps

Ok guys thanks for all this help for everyone here and especially me. If someone wanted to make this into a non question post with maybe a step by step guide? i suppose i could but im feeling awfully lazy right now so yeah..

Ntelos
Yea not much love for the Ntelos folks here so we need to stick together

yeah we really do
Sent from my A854 using XDA App

well today is a new problem, i flashed the liquid frozen yogurt 1.95 and lost my data 3g connection, i can turn it off then back on and it will come on for about 10 mins then 3g will be gone until i turn it off and on again...Any ideas?

well does it switch to 1x or does it just leave... you could also try to toggle airplane mode on/off... every so often my data switches from five bars 3g to 2 bars 1x and toggling airplane mode normally fixes it... but if you lose it completely I recommend you try to either nandroid back to stock or attempt to send mms or call someone and see what happens...
Sent from my A854 using XDA App

also try what eboogie said...
Sent from my A854 using XDA App

I resolved my loosing data connection, there is a setting in the connections and wireless tab that you can choose Home or automatic and it was set to automatic, I changed it to Home and bingo all good...

First time using Android, please give some advices!

Hi all, in a couple of days time I will be receiving my first ever Android device, the Motorola Milestone. I've already done some research on the phone as well as on Android itself, and understood most of the necessary basics. However, there are still many things I don't understand quite yet, and would like some help with clarifying them.
My first question is regarding the custom roms. I myself have been a long time user of Windows Mobile so I know most of the stuff that is relevant to Android as well. From what I know, the bootloader on the Milestone is still locked, but people have found ways to load custom roms on it. Can someone link me to the guide on how to do this? Now before someone tell me to search on the forum or on Google (which I already have), I just want to point out that the ones I found seemed to be outdated, and that they're for older Android versions??
My 2nd question is, do custom roms like IceandFire or Froyomod come with their own custom kernels? Because I want to be able to overclock my phone, and if it comes installed with its own kernel then I don't want to risk bricking it by flashing another kernel on top of it......I hope that makes sense??
3rd question is, which rom is the best for speed and battery? I'm guessing it's IceandFire and it builds upon the latest CM7?
And lastly, are there any crucial apps that you guys recommend I should install, or any tweaks etc I should use?

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Hi all, in a couple of days time I will be receiving my first ever Android device, the Motorola Milestone. I've already done some research on the phone as well as on Android itself, and understood most of the necessary basics. However, there are still many things I don't understand quite yet, and would like some help with clarifying them.
My first question is regarding the custom roms. I myself have been a long time user of Windows Mobile so I know most of the stuff that is relevant to Android as well. From what I know, the bootloader on the Milestone is still locked, but people have found ways to load custom roms on it. Can someone link me to the guide on how to do this? Now before someone tell me to search on the forum or on Google (which I already have), I just want to point out that the ones I found seemed to be outdated, and that they're for older Android versions??
My 2nd question is, do custom roms like IceandFire or Froyomod come with their own custom kernels? Because I want to be able to overclock my phone, and if it comes installed with its own kernel then I don't want to risk bricking it by flashing another kernel on top of it......I hope that makes sense??
3rd question is, which rom is the best for speed and battery? I'm guessing it's IceandFire and it builds upon the latest CM7?
And lastly, are there any crucial apps that you guys recommend I should install, or any tweaks etc I should use?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=983516
This is still the best way to get a custom ROM loaded up onto your phone. What you want to start with is flashing the vulnerable recovery from http://android.doshaska.net/rootable by using RSD Lite. To do so, you need to put the phone into Bootloader mode (power+Dpad-up) You can google RSD Lite, make sure you use the latest version along with the latest USB Driver version from Motorola.
RSD Lite is a very finicky program, if you have any errors flashing, your best bet would be to try this post: http://androidforums.com/droid-all-...hing-process-0x7100-rsd-lite.html#post1274587
Once you flash the VR (vulnerable recovery), you will want to put OpenRecovery on your SD Card. I recommend using OR 1.46 and placing FuFu's minimod on the SD Card as well. It will overwrite existing files in OR (look for it in Milestone Development). From here you can root the phone in OR (by using power+x, then camera+volume up) and reboot, backup all data you want saved, before flashing a ROM.
Once that is done, get the custom ROM that you want (I find speed + battery can be Cronos, CM7 or FroyoMOD for a Froyo ROM) and place it in OpenRecovery/updates. You will also want the most up-to-date version of Google Apps for Cronos or any Gingerbread ROM (except MIUI).
Gapps: http://goo-inside.me/gapps/gapps-gb-20110613-signed.zip
Now, turn the phone off, and put it into recovery mode (power+x, then camera+volume up), select apply update.zip and you are now into OpenRecovery.
Here is where you will flash your custom ROM and Gapps. Wipe both cache partition and dalvik cache, then wipe all data. Select Apply Update under Miscellaneous Menu and select the ROM you want. Once it is done, wipe both caches (not data) and flash Gapps. Wipe caches again. Finally, change the baseband to your country and reboot.
The first reboot will take a while, as the ROM is configuring itself for first time use.
That is how to flash a custom ROM and get started.
2- Custom kernels are not available for Milestone, as our bootloader is locked. Overclocking the phone is done through the 10overclock file in system/etc/init.d . All ROMs that I know of are overclock, most to 1GHz (from 550MHz). You will not be able to flash any kernels, and DO NOT try ROM Manager, it will temporarily brick your phone.
Crucial apps, I would say are Root Explorer, TitaniumBackup. Those are the two that are very useful for root users, if you flash multiple ROMs or need to access system files.
Hope this helped.

awesome, thanks for the reply mate!
Hmm 2 things i'm confused with. Isn't there an app called "Milestone Overclock" that lets u overclock without installing custom kernels?
Also, from what I know you need to have the bootloader unlocked in order to install custom roms. I already know that Motorola is still keeping the bootloader locked and that as of now, there isn't a way to unlock it. Then how come we can install custom roms?
Also, since you mentioned ROM Manager, I did a quick search and it seems to be able to manage multiple custom rom installs that you have. But then you said don't try it or it will brick the phone, so I don't understand whether I can install it or not?? Personally, I love testing out different roms as well as new builds. It would be nice to dual boot or choose between different roms to use. But i'm not sure whether I want to go forward with this since your comment implies to me that I shouldn't install Rom Manager?
Lastly, this is the part I found most confusing with Android (or with Windows Mobile as well). I found some guides that tells you to install Clockwork Recovery Mod or something like that. Some of them even mentioned using Nandroid or something. There seems to be different methods & tools/softwares for different devices (or even the same device) and it can be confusing to keep up with them. My question is, are there major differences between them? Which one is better and should I keep them up to date?

chaoscreater said:
awesome, thanks for the reply mate!
Hmm 2 things i'm confused with. Isn't there an app called "Milestone Overclock" that lets u overclock without installing custom kernels?
Also, from what I know you need to have the bootloader unlocked in order to install custom roms. I already know that Motorola is still keeping the bootloader locked and that as of now, there isn't a way to unlock it. Then how come we can install custom roms?
Also, since you mentioned ROM Manager, I did a quick search and it seems to be able to manage multiple custom rom installs that you have. But then you said don't try it or it will brick the phone, so I don't understand whether I can install it or not?? Personally, I love testing out different roms as well as new builds. It would be nice to dual boot or choose between different roms to use. But i'm not sure whether I want to go forward with this since your comment implies to me that I shouldn't install Rom Manager?
Lastly, this is the part I found most confusing with Android (or with Windows Mobile as well). I found some guides that tells you to install Clockwork Recovery Mod or something like that. Some of them even mentioned using Nandroid or something. There seems to be different methods & tools/softwares for different devices (or even the same device) and it can be confusing to keep up with them. My question is, are there major differences between them? Which one is better and should I keep them up to date?
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I have tried Milestone Overclock, but I never really used it to overclock the phone. I prefer changing the voltages and speeds with the 10overclock file. If you read the description of Milestone overclock, it "tricks" the kernel into thinking it's supposed to run at a certain speed.
ROM Manager and Clockwork Recovery Mod do not work on Milestone. The only recovery that works with the Milestone is OpenRecovery or Androidiani OpenRecovery. Unfortunately, the only way to flash the ROMs is through OR or AOR, so you will have to repeat the processes every single time. I have gotten used to where all of the options are for FuFu's Minimod, so I am able to do it quite efficiently
The best way to backup a ROM, system data and the such is by Nandroid backup. That is the only sort of backup that you can do. It is recommended to do one every time you flash a custom ROM, but I only did it after I rooted and before I flashed my first custom ROM. You can do it through OR. That is the only way that will work. CWM and ROM Manager will just temp brick the phone and you will have to reflash a stock SBF all over again.

i see.....in that case there's no way to install 2 different roms to allow dual booting then? What about the app "Boot Manager", will that work? I found it on this site here:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...ted-user-should-know-about-part-4-apps-26-33/
One last question, I came across this popular app that is recommended by many Android users, called Apps2SD. My understanding to this is that by default, any apps/games that you install on your device will install to the internal memory, and that this Apps2SD app basically lets you install to your memory card? So my question is, does this lag the phone somehow? I like to have many apps and especially games installed on my phone, would doing this affect the performance or something? I know this is the case for Windows Mobile, but not sure about Android.....

chaoscreater said:
i see.....in that case there's no way to install 2 different roms to allow dual booting then? What about the app "Boot Manager", will that work? I found it on this site here:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...ted-user-should-know-about-part-4-apps-26-33/
One last question, I came across this popular app that is recommended by many Android users, called Apps2SD. My understanding to this is that by default, any apps/games that you install on your device will install to the internal memory, and that this Apps2SD app basically lets you install to your memory card? So my question is, does this lag the phone somehow? I like to have many apps and especially games installed on my phone, would doing this affect the performance or something? I know this is the case for Windows Mobile, but not sure about Android.....
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I follow AndroidPolice as well. I don't know about Boot Manager, I heard about it, but I haven't heard any reviews of it yet.
Two things when it comes to phone storage and apps on the Milestone: Old hardware makes for a lot of games to not work at all, and low phone storage space.
Almost every ROM comes with apps2ext support, which is a more advanced version of Apps2SD. You can follow this tutorial here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10994672&postcount=226
Apps2ext will trick your phone into thinking space on the SD Card (the ext partition) is actually part of the phone's internal memory. You will be able to get a lot more apps on the phone this way.

Ahh cool, that saves me the trouble of me having to install an extra tweak.
Hmm I know Milestone is old, but not that old is it?? I don't know of any games now days that require heavy hardware specs or anything......i'm just hoping that emulators will work fine on it. I mean, my iPod Touch 3rd Gen only has about 120MB of free RAM, and the CPU is crap as hell and yet I could run GBA games like Pokemon or Golden Sun fine no problem (with sound of course). I'm hoping it'll at least work smoothly on the Milestone since I'll be attempting to overclock it to 1Ghz, which should run it significantly faster in theory.
BTW I found this great tweak for the CM7, here's the link:
http://chromloop.com/2011/07/how-to-make-cyanogenmod-7-for-milestone-a853-lighter-and-faster/
are there any ones similar to this? I'm a tweak junkie addict, I like to make my device run as smooth and as fast as possible. When I still had my HTC Touch Pro and Xperia X1, and even Nokia N900 (which uses Maemo 5), I tweaked the crap out of them and got more juice and power and made its performance so much better. I'm hoping I can at least do the same for the Milestone, except I couldn't seem to find many tweaks...
Oh lastly, I know one of the big problems with Android is fragmentation. There're already some apps out there in the Android market that are exclusive to certain Android versions. The same app has a version for Froyo (v2.2) and Gingerbread (v2.3). This is true for some of the mods or tweaks on XDA. So my question is, are custom roms like CM7 using Gingerbread? I'm guessing yes since it says 2.3.5? In that case, would I be able to simply install the latest mod/tweak or apps/games from XDA or the Android market? Or must I find the versions that is identical to mine?
E.g. if I install CM7, can I still install a mod that is for Froyo?

chaoscreater said:
Ahh cool, that saves me the trouble of me having to install an extra tweak.
Hmm I know Milestone is old, but not that old is it?? I don't know of any games now days that require heavy hardware specs or anything......i'm just hoping that emulators will work fine on it. I mean, my iPod Touch 3rd Gen only has about 120MB of free RAM, and the CPU is crap as hell and yet I could run GBA games like Pokemon or Golden Sun fine no problem (with sound of course). I'm hoping it'll at least work smoothly on the Milestone since I'll be attempting to overclock it to 1Ghz, which should run it significantly faster in theory.
BTW I found this great tweak for the CM7, here's the link:
http://chromloop.com/2011/07/how-to-make-cyanogenmod-7-for-milestone-a853-lighter-and-faster/
are there any ones similar to this? I'm a tweak junkie addict, I like to make my device run as smooth and as fast as possible. When I still had my HTC Touch Pro and Xperia X1, and even Nokia N900 (which uses Maemo 5), I tweaked the crap out of them and got more juice and power and made its performance so much better. I'm hoping I can at least do the same for the Milestone, except I couldn't seem to find many tweaks...
Oh lastly, I know one of the big problems with Android is fragmentation. There're already some apps out there in the Android market that are exclusive to certain Android versions. The same app has a version for Froyo (v2.2) and Gingerbread (v2.3). This is true for some of the mods or tweaks on XDA. So my question is, are custom roms like CM7 using Gingerbread? I'm guessing yes since it says 2.3.5? In that case, would I be able to simply install the latest mod/tweak or apps/games from XDA or the Android market? Or must I find the versions that is identical to mine?
E.g. if I install CM7, can I still install a mod that is for Froyo?
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Of course you still can. The best tweak for Milestone is under Android Hacking, it's zeppelinrox's supercharger script, which you run through Script Manager. That's the best you can get.
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I thought custom roms like CM7 or IceandFire come with the supercharger script included?

chaoscreater said:
I thought custom roms like CM7 or IceandFire come with the supercharger script included?
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Some do, such as HO!NO!, but not all of them do.
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Ok so I finally got my Milestone today!
I'm about to start rooting it and install CM7 on it. But before I do that, I have one important question. I know for Windows Mobile, almost all of the device requires you to do a hard reset after flashing a custom rom. I was wondering if the same needs to be applied to Android custom roms? Because it doesn't seem like it, I did a quick Google search and found this:
http://androidforums.com/optimus-v-...4-do-not-factory-reset-your-rooted-phone.html
So ya I'm not sure....
UPDATE:
Ok so I got my Milestone rooted, and installed CM7 on it. I came across a weird problem while doing it though. First of all, I'm using a 8GB Kingston microSD class 2, and it's brand new and hasn't been used before, so it obviously has nothing stored on it as it's empty to begin with. Ok, so as I followed the instructions, the first step is obviously rooting the Milestone, so I simply copied OpenRecovery to the memory card while my Milestone was connected to my PC. The weird thing is, when I opened "My Computer", I didn't see my memory card. Instead, I see "Milestone", so I opened it and then I see my memory card "Removeable Storage". I opened it again and here's the actual weird part, there're 2 files stored in it, called:
DevIcon
DevLogo
At first, I didn't think it was a problem because I thought they were just some dummy file or something. Also, the memory card is empty other than those 2 files. So after copying OpenRecovery to it and rooting it successfully, I then proceed to copy the CM7 custom rom file to the memory card. But this time, I still see the same thing. I don't see my OpenRecovery folder on it at all, there're no other files other than those 2 files on it. I tried Unmount and Mount in the SD Card settings, also unplugging my USB cable and re-plugging back in but it's the same. In fact, after 'Unmounting' the memory card, I couldn't even access it on "My Computer", as nothing shows up after I open "Milestone". Only 'Mounting' works, but again I only see those 2 files and nothing else.
HOWEVER, I then tried to take out the memory card and use my own microSD card reader, and bam I can see all the files on it, such as OpenRecovery and even the nanDroid backup that I made while following the instructions on that guide. So this is weird, why can't I access or see the contents on my memory card while the phone is connected to the PC??

I don't wanna create another topic for this since it's unnecessary, so here's my final question. In case something goes wrong in the future, what's the best way for me to revert back to stock?
I know I can use nandroid for this, but here's what i'm confused about. Nandroid makes a backup of the complete system, including the settings and apps installed correct? But what if you flash a custom rom, and then use a nandroid backup of the stock rom, will that still work? Or would you have to install the stock rom first for you to be able to use the nandroid backup?
Lastly, if the nandroid backup works regardless of whether you're using a different rom than the rom that the nandroid backup was made, then which option is better:
use nandroid to revert to stock, or using this guide here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11902513&postcount=7
Now I understand that for Milestone, custom roms are not actually flashed since the bootloader is locked. So would using nandroid be good enough?

chaoscreater said:
I don't wanna create another topic for this since it's unnecessary, so here's my final question. In case something goes wrong in the future, what's the best way for me to revert back to stock?
I know I can use nandroid for this, but here's what i'm confused about. Nandroid makes a backup of the complete system, including the settings and apps installed correct? But what if you flash a custom rom, and then use a nandroid backup of the stock rom, will that still work? Or would you have to install the stock rom first for you to be able to use the nandroid backup?
Lastly, if the nandroid backup works regardless of whether you're using a different rom than the rom that the nandroid backup was made, then which option is better:
use nandroid to revert to stock, or using this guide here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11902513&postcount=7
Now I understand that for Milestone, custom roms are not actually flashed since the bootloader is locked. So would using nandroid be good enough?
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The best way to revert to stock will be to flash an sbf for your region that will wipe everything. They have those sbf's on and-developers.
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Ahh I see, so in what situations will we be using nandroid to restore from the backup?
Also, the SBF file i'm using is from the guide that you linked me in your 2nd post. I'm using the EUROPE one because apparently it covers most of the countries around Europe, which includes New Zealand (where I live). I've had no problems with it, but just then I checked out the AND-Developers site like you suggested, and found this here:
http://and-developers.com/sbf:milestone221
It doesn't seem to have New Zealand but it does have Australia, which is like a neighbour to us. Will it be better if I flash the SBF to that instead?
Also, will flashing a SBF change the radio? Or does only changing the baseband change the radio? Because i'm getting weak signals from 2G/3G sometimes, and my Wifi has problems sometimes not being able to connect properly. Either that, or it shows that i'm connected but i'm not getting any data, apparently a lot of people have problems like this after I did some searching around.

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Ahh I see, so in what situations will we be using nandroid to restore from the backup?
Also, the SBF file i'm using is from the guide that you linked me in your 2nd post. I'm using the EUROPE one because apparently it covers most of the countries around Europe, which includes New Zealand (where I live). I've had no problems with it, but just then I checked out the AND-Developers site like you suggested, and found this here:
http://and-developers.com/sbf:milestone221
It doesn't seem to have New Zealand but it does have Australia, which is like a neighbour to us. Will it be better if I flash the SBF to that instead?
Also, will flashing a SBF change the radio? Or does only changing the baseband change the radio? Because i'm getting weak signals from 2G/3G sometimes, and my Wifi has problems sometimes not being able to connect properly. Either that, or it shows that i'm connected but i'm not getting any data, apparently a lot of people have problems like this after I did some searching around.
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1. when you're phone will not start anymore, it's good to have one before every new flash cause you never now what's gonna happen.
2. funny thing is i know where New Zealand is (not near Europe) . about the baseband ... yes every sbf has the region specific baseband 's (you cant flash a radio only change baseband 's).
baseband can be found on dexter's (http://dext3r.komodin.org/) page but they are already included in OR (not sure about fufu's). i can't be very precise because i don't remember.
custom rom's don't think they change baseband 's, (the .zip ones)

Ya ur right, NZ is not anywhere near Europe lol
but I did do some research on which SBF I needed before I flashed it, and I found out that the Europe SBF works for NZ as well, it was mentioned somewhere I can't remember.
About the baseband, I'm still a little bit confused. First off, I already know that you can change the baseband under OpenRecovery. The thing is, there are no options to change the baseband to New Zealand, so which one should I pick? Also, here's the part I'm confused about. You said that the baseband are region specific, and yet we can choose the baseband we want in OpenRecovery.
So since I flashed the SBF for Europe, what will happen if I then change the baseband to say Argentina (one of the options under OpenRecovery)? Will it crash or something?? I don't even know what baseband i'm using right now, I haven't changed anything, I only flashed the SBF for Europe and that's it. I can still go online using 2G/3G and txt no problem, but I'm just not sure if the baseband i'm using is suppose to be correct for New Zealand or not...
BTW just another side question (sorry I'm really new to the Android scene!):
I've found a few custom roms that doesn't use the current kernel we have for Milestone. As far as I know, the bootloader for Milestone is locked, therefore we can't properly flash a custom rom onto it, as well as replacing the kernel as well. So what I'm confused with is, if some of these custom roms don't use the current kernel on the system, then how does it work? Does it use its own kernel, and if so then shouldn't that replace the system's own kernel before it can be used??
Here's one of the custom rom topic where I read from, in case ur wondering:
This is the Froyo FRG22 image for our Milestone. but as this is not using the kernel, there are some limit to functions based on kernel requirement. But its close, and works great and is alot faster.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=734802
The same goes for the custom roms. I don't understand how they can run on Milestone even though it's not properly flashed. Like some others have mentioned, the so-called "custom roms" that we have now are just a layer of image or skin on top of the stock rom. The weird thing is, it runs faster and most of the pre-installed stock apps that came with the stock rom are removed, thus giving us more space for internal storage. But how does this work if the custom roms haven't actually flashed onto our phone? Or did it overwrite/modify the files on the stock rom? If so, then isn't that just flashing onto the phone then?

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About the baseband
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changing baseband's that are not supported by your network op will lead to no signal whatsoever.. i don't remember if there is a problem with only data. try other baseband, in theory it will not crash anything, so do a nandroid backup before
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=734802
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that is an old post from "25th July 2010, 05:52 AM" moto started to leak kernel from January 2011 give or take a month, so back then froyo was used with the eclair kernel. kernel from milestone was never changed to other than moto signed, only modules loaded at an early stage, thanks to kabaldan/nadlabak and other if exists
custom roms =
moto kernel
kernel modules (this helps on overclock , app2ext ... others)
mods to system files, apps
hope you understand cause i don't know if i make it clear at the end of the post
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The same goes for the custom roms. I don't understand how they can run on Milestone even though it's not properly flashed. Like some others have mentioned, the so-called "custom roms" that we have now are just a layer of image or skin on top of the stock rom. The weird thing is, it runs faster and most of the pre-installed stock apps that came with the stock rom are removed, thus giving us more space for internal storage. But how does this work if the custom roms haven't actually flashed onto our phone? Or did it overwrite/modify the files on the stock rom? If so, then isn't that just flashing onto the phone then?
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i doesn't make any sense, you will end up with no memory , only kernel remains, other things gets rewritten.
Code:
http://www.vodafone.co.nz/roaming/welcome-to-nz.jsp
this get out of what i know. with the frequencies,
basebands/frequency i have 900/1800
for data check if there is a problem with your apn settings

I see, thanks for your thorough explanation
Ya I know that changing my baseband will probably give me better signals, but I'm asking which one is best for Vodafone NZ because there isn't a baseband for New Zealand.
For the data part, were you talking about my wifi problem, and suggesting I check the APN settings? Don't worry that's been solved already. I flashed to the New Zealand v2.1 SBF and now it's working very stable. But like I said, after flashing to that I now have problems with connecting to my operator whenever I switch to 2G. However, 3G works fine so there's no problem with that.
BTW, I have another problem. After flashing to the New Zealand v2.1 SBF, I couldn't access my OpenRecovery anymore. I didn't delete or change any files on my memory card, so if I could access OpenRecovery and root my device as well as flash a custom rom when I was still on Froyo, then why can't I do it again when I flash to Eclair?
I *think* I know the reason, is it because it patched the vulnerable recovery or something? I think this is what I need to do to fix this:
http://android.doshaska.net/rootable
I haven't done it yet coz i'm busy these days, but i just need a confirmation so I know that it is indeed the case.

I *think* I know the reason, is it because it patched the vulnerable recovery or something? I think this is what I need to do to fix this:
http://android.doshaska.net/rootable
I haven't done it yet coz i'm busy these days, but i just need a confirmatio
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true story . it should say something about eocd marker and fail.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=698059
For the data part, were you talking about my wifi problem, and suggesting I check the APN settings?
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sorry... i don't know, last night i thought i read something else, about working 3g and 2g not ..must be the skittles... to much rainbow
i suggest finding out what country baseband are similar to New Zealand and flash/apply that one )