this is something on my mind for rom devs, but anyone who used either the XE and XL reported amazing responsiveness so did anyone notice that both the X phones reserve a big portion of internal space?
the XL has 16GB of internal only 12.64 GB is accessible, with around 512MB required for the system files, this means the XL has a massive cache partition! can someone please confirm? sames goes for XE with 4GB internal only 1GB is available
can any dev working on these devices confirm this theory? thanks!
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Is there a massive diiference in performance between a phone with 576 mb ram e.g htc desire and a phone with 512mb ram eg. the google nexus one?
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Cpt.Curry said:
Is there a massive diiference in performance between a phone with 576 mb ram e.g htc desire and a phone with 512mb ram eg. the google nexus one?
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The only difference is that you get 64MB more RAM to hold a handful more applications in the background. The performance difference is only going to be appreciable if the applications that are being let go in that 64MB "buffer" take a long time to load up.
I've read before that they are identical, just reported differently.
512Mb RAM + 64Mb baseband.
Pretty sure I read it on here, but could be wrong.
Dont matter as the current kernels wont see more than appox 400 MB
Rusty! said:
I've read before that they are identical, just reported differently.
512Mb RAM + 64Mb baseband.
Pretty sure I read it on here, but could be wrong.
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+1, and it's written in many places.
Yeah, the Desire doesn't have any more memory than the Nexus One. They just report it differently.
http://android.modaco.com/content-page/312298/got-the-stalling-problem-rooted-try-this/page/180/#
if im not wrong.. there is a total of 2GB oneNAND space on this moviMCP chip that Samsung uses.. It has 16GB moviNAND and 16G bit (2GB) of oneNAND for random access.. 1.4GB is accounted for, another 600MB is still unknown..
since this moviMCP is configurable which is confusing but the moviNAND is sequential, thats why is slower.. OneNAND has NOR interface which makes it suitable for random access and can hv 20MB/s transfer speed so the stl blocks should be sitting on it..
http://www.samsung.com/global/busin...nmemory/downloads/moviNAND_mmc4_3_support.pdf
KLMAG8DEDD
http://www.careace.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/galaxy-s-disassembly-14.jpg
Someone verify my findings?
One question. When you put a 2gb memory card into a PC, do you see the full 2gb?
No you wont see 2GB but definitely more than 1.4gb!
I imagine it holds recovery image of android system
dseo80 said:
I imagine it holds recovery image of android system
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but if it doesn't....
only around 1.8gb exists on a 2gb space. minus some for system usage, that's about right....no magical space except only in dreams.
But the 16Gbit we are speaking of don't have to be counted *1024 instead of 1000 again again when calculating in GiB. That are really full 2GiB, 2048MiB and so on. Did you think raspdeep, one of the top devs here would be that much of an idiot?
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I read the i9000 cpu c111A datasheet,
c111A include 4Gb NAND + 3Gb DDR + 1Gb OneNAND.
it's means 384M ddr + 128M OneNAND.
why everyone says:512M RAM?
what's the OneNand?
Samsung says 512MB RAM. Where'd you hear it has OneNand?
I doubt Samsung would confuse Nand and RAM.
from here:
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There are already few threads about this issue. No one really knows exactly how much actual RAM there is for programs. There are conflicting reports, for example Samsung themselves say there is 384MB of RAM in Fascinate (Galaxy S for Verizon US), and then in some of their other Galaxy S variants they say 512MB of RAM. For me it seems like 384MB is what is actually available for programs (since Android OS is reporting 384MB, and so far no firmware has reported anything above that), rest is either used by the system or hardware devices (GPU perhaps ??).
It has 512mb of ram. 128mb is set aside for ram disk purposes (Lord knows why). The other 64~ is probably reserved for telephony.
I think a major portion of the ram is dedicated for video ram. and of course dma buffers for camera and other hardware sensors or components (GPS, radio etc)
so...we can at the most expect around 360megs available at most in any rom to come.
It's advertised with 512mb of RAM so why not? The rest of the RAM you don't get to use it probably reserved by the system. What would be the point in having a phone that doesn't phone someone cause your low on RAM.
sionyboy said:
It has 512mb of ram. 128mb is set aside for ram disk purposes (Lord knows why). The other 64~ is probably reserved for telephony.
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THat's the rumor on the epic 4G, but did anyone actually determine it was the same on the galaxy S?
Yeah, there was a thread on the development board where RyanZA and others went through some of the code and found some similarities between the two.
Hello running Teamhacksung ICS 15 with ICY GLITCH v14-
I need some help understanding this....I have 2 gb internal storage? 13.03 gb USB storage? 4 gb external micro-sd card? I have 1.85 available Internal 11.74 USB ...all that being said...why is my memory being so taxed? please see attached screenshot
The Captivate has 512 MB of RAM, 16GB of NAND flash memory (partitioned for different parts of the OS), and you have a 4 GB NAND flash Micro SD card.
RAM is different from flash memory or a hard disk. RAM is what your phone uses to run software and hold temporary data for quick access.
Lol because our phones ram sucks.... at best i get ~ 125MB free ram. I avg 40-80 MB with all my widgets and a few apps open.
Edit: that 512MB is a lie... THE CAKE IS A LIE! lol
But thats with all apps running at startup? If you have less apps running shouldnt you have less stress on RAM? Man it sucks someone hasnt developed an app similar to readyboost in I HATE WINDOWS...doesnt it use flash memory as ram? Ok...so with reference to my screenshot my memory usage is normal?
Why do you want free RAM? If it's unused, it's wasted. Another tidbit that no one seems to ever mention is that resources in Android are memory-mapped. If things like images and other binary objects are aligned properly, they will not be copied into RAM at runtime, but read directly from their stored location.
This is true. But android doesn't always manage its memory perfectly. I usually close apps out of habit, but if I let it I can have alot of apps open and I won't notice. Then again I've been using since 2.1 and that REALLY sucked with memory management.
prbassplayer said:
Lol because our phones ram sucks.... at best i get ~ 125MB free ram. I avg 40-80 MB with all my widgets and a few apps open.
Edit: that 512MB is a lie... THE CAKE IS A LIE! lol
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True. 340MB is free for user space. The rest is for kernel, video, audio buffers, etc.
340MB(Galaxyian) is on big MEM kernels(truly 344MB on others, but he found a way to keep HD recording!) On any stock ROM's it is 329MB available...
Image above says he has closer to 355mb
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Ohh well I was talking about STOCK roms haha well we all know how well MTD ROM's compare to STOCK in performance
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Image above says he has closer to 355mb
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LOL. That's because 1MB = 1048576 bytes, so 340 x 1MB = 356,515,840
TalenDEV bigmen is 352MB, but no HD recording and I think it messed up HD playback as well. I don't worry about it too much.
I know, was pulling your chain
CuriousTech said:
LOL. That's because 1MB = 1048576 bytes, so 340 x 1MB = 356,515,840
TalenDEV bigmen is 352MB, but no HD recording and I think it messed up HD playback as well. I don't worry about it too much.
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I know I know, was kidding And no it shouldn't mess with playback.
My wife is considering buying a I9305. She is currently using a I9100 and that particular device has a limit where only 2 GB of the internal SD-card can be used for storing apps, and by now she has used up all of the storage reserved for apps.
Is there such a limit on the I9305? Because, if there is a limit like on the I9100 this device won't be sufficient to store all her apps.
Will anyone please share how much memory they have available for apps on the I9305, give and take?
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Hvilsted
Full internal memory is available.
Minus the 4gb taken by the system, there's at least 11gb left for everything else including apps on the internal storage.
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