Hi there!
I installed FRX07.1 on topaz with 1GB sdcard (Sandisk 4k cluster)
The system ran smoothly until I moved it to a 8G sdcard (Imation 4k cluster) then the files system always crash
I suspected that it's a problem on its own of the 8G sdcard, so I moved once again to another 16G sdcard (Toshiba 32K cluster, also tried 4K cluster)
The system kept crash, I tried my best to install it again and again with 4K cluster setting on the 16G sdcard, but no lucks, the problem persists
I now moved back onto the 1GB sdcard
You know, 1GB is almost not viable, I need some more space to make backups
Do u guys has such a problem? please give me a pointer.
Best wishes
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It seems to me that the memory layout on the Captivate isn't in line with other Android devices.
Looking at the specs of the Captivate on www.google.com/phone I am seeing:
RAM: 512 MB
Internal Storage: 16000 MB
Yet in looking at "SD card and phone storage" in settings I see.
Internal phone storage, Available space: 1.60 GB
Internal SD card: 13.03 GB
It seems to me that the 16000 MB is partitioned so here are my questions.
1) Where is the 512 MB and what is it for?
2) Why is it if I install some app that is supposed to show me external SD usage it always instead shows that 13 GB internal flash volume?
And in a broader sense...
3) What is the general memory model for Android? I see RAM, Internal, External. What are they all for?
I'm not sure, but of that internal 16gb of storage space, is it merely partitioning a section of that away for the OS?
That is my question. I don't understand the memory model.
This might not be accurate since I don't own an android phone but i'm bored
1) Where is the 512 MB and what is it for?
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System Ram, used by the OS and apps as volatile memory.
2) Why is it if I install some app that is supposed to show me external SD usage it always instead shows that 13 GB internal flash volume?
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Because the 13gb volume is the "general" volume where you can personally store whatever you want, it functions just like an external Sd card would.
3) What is the general memory model for Android? I see RAM, Internal, External. What are they all for?
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Ram - It is for the OS and apps, they need that as volatile storage to function, nothing is really stored there in the long term, the OS manages that so don't worry about it.
Internal memory - This used for many things, app install and to store files like music, pictures, etc. Internal memory is usually partitioned so that you only have a set amount (probalby that 1.60 you see ) for apps install and the rest if for whatever you want(the 13gb).
External memory - That is just an SD card you can use to expand your internal memory, right now (Android 2.1) it only works to add more space for files(music, photos, docs,) but with with froyo (android 2.2) you'll be able to move installed apps to this external (and the internal 13gb) drive.
Ok here's how it's laid out.
Yes, we have 512MB of RAM. However we as the end user will only see around 300MB of that, give or take 20MB. That's because some of it used by the OS and the GPU for different tasks.
That 16GB of internal storage you see, is partitioned off. We actually get around 13GB to use for ourselves. That 1.6GB you also see starts off as around 2GB (I would assume), and the rest used by the system for the OS, apps, cache, etc...
It's just like a hard drive on a computer in that respect. Sure you but a 1TB hard drive, but you actually only get to use around 850GB of it due to formatting and whatnot.
My problem is that I cant install apps in the 13gb partition, I dont know why..
I tried with:
adb shell pm setInstallLocation 0 this is Auto mode but.. installs in 1.8 partition
..........................................1 this install on the 1.8 partition
..........................................2 this install on the sd card
..........................................3 doesent exist xD but i tried..
so does exist any way to install apps for default in the 13.3 internal SD card partition, or any way to errase the partition??..
Try using "apps2sd" from market. It should be app2sd or apps2sd.
But I don't understand the need to do this, given that Captivate has one of the best memory amounts allocated for system.
Also note that, the apps on SD won't be available during the times when apps like "media scanner" are running.
Hi.
Im running miui rom in my optimus 2x.
I have 3 options to storge.
Phone storage about 1 gb
Sd card storge about 5 gb
And external sd card about 16 gb
The problem is that basically i cant use the external sd card for apps and games,
i try all the move to sd card apps on market and all of tham only move from my phone storage to my sd card, so basically i only have 6gb in my phone.
Is there anyway to move tham to my external??
Tnx.
hmmmmm...
on cm you have an option to do so (settings/cyanogenmod/applications/use external sd for media)
but i don't know if miui has it too. Try looking for something like that
I looked everywhere, there isnt an option like this.
If you don't mind me asking, are you really out of storage to install apps?
Because o2x has an app storage space of 1.5gb excluding the internal 5gb flash memory, and most heavy games will store their game data on the 5gb internal flash mem, and only the basic apk will resides on the app space.
Running out of storage space is really hard achieve since even the heaviest game only consumes like 100mb? Which is mostly stored in the 5gb space. Unless you have hundreds of high end games installed, then you can run out of space .
All the new games need to download between 400-900 mb each, so yeah i runnig out of storge
Alright then, my mistake.
Anyway, I read that to swap sdcard as _externalSD vice versa is via CM7, I am not really sure how because I'm not using it, but I definately read about it before and it is doable. Hopefully someone can help you on the how..
Cheers!
there is a script for miui to swap so your microsd to become /sdcard check the android development
Code:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1263311
Tnx alot, that fix my problems.
Hallo,
For a moth or so my Note runs on a Custom JB ROM.
and today i wanted to install the new TomTom app.
i requires me to download a additional 3.1 GB
but i says that theirs not enough memory available.
that's strange, i just put in a brand new 16gb SD card.
so i checked the storage info.
Internal 1,9GB
internal(second??) 11GB
SD-card 15GB
on default in installs apps on the fist Internal memory,
so if transferred i to SD.
BUT in transferred it to the Second internal memory instead of the SD-card.
so i checked the form and found out that i can change a file to mount de SD as internal,
but than i have 11GB of lost space on my phone,
is there a way to partition(combine/merge) the first en second Internal memory??
no
internal 1 is system
internal 2 is internal sd
and this is the same on GB/ICS too?? so should work..
Hi i wanna now how can i fusion the "sdcard" with "sd-ext" in JB.. I've saw a lot of phones that the intrenal memory is the ROM memory for us and the microSD card is the sdcard partition .. so my finnaly question is how can we do that or make the ROM mem to be 8Gb and the sd card part to be up to 32Gb
i've been back with some explications of what i wanna do with munt points so let's start...
Firs of all i wanna make one partition of system storge and usb storage to one system storage (a normal partition for android phones) equivalent of 1.97+3.92=5.89Gb as internal mem. See partitions in the print screen
Then i wanna make the "SD card", actualy mounted as "extsdcard", the USB storgage in my case
For explaining you i have here a photo from a Vodafone Smart II (Alcatel v860) that has the partition management that i want
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i've been back with some explications of what i wanna do with munt points so let's start...
Firs of all i wanna make one partition of system storge and usb storage to one system storage (a normal partition for android phones) equivalent of 1.97+3.92=5.89Gb as internal mem. See partitions in the print screen
Then i wanna make the "SD card", actualy mounted as "extsdcard", the USB storgage in my case
For explaining you i have here a photo from a Vodafone Smart II (Alcatel v860) that has the partition management that i want
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As far I know you can only swap places of external and internal memory. You cannot fuse it.
Look here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=36613948
And on that image I do not see any fusion of internal and external memory. It just shows capacity of it. And it is swaped too, internal become external and external become internal.
yes because in that image the internal mem (in our case 8G = 6gb + 2GbROM) it's a single partition and ours is splitted in two the internal and usb storage and in the 2nd picture the sdcard from image is a 2Gb microSD card
Now you understand me
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yes because in that image the internal mem (in our case 8G = 6gb + 2GbROM) it's a single partition and ours is splitted in two the internal and usb storage and in the 2nd picture the sdcard from image is a 2Gb microSD card
Now you understand me
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No, you got it wrong. In second image there is 2GB internal memory that is transformed to be external. And extrenal with 32GB is set to be internal. And that is exacly what is done in this link I give to you.
P.S. And our phone is 8GB=4GB storage + 2GB app partition + 2GB for other system needs (ROM, RAM etc...).
P.P.S. Tell me again, what do you want to do? To make internal memory bigger?
i wanna intall a lot of games and apps that has the data folder in internal mem and the data is big like RF2013 or NFSMW or Asphalt 7 and more games and if i have 16 gb microsd card i wanna use it for this, music and movies
so tell me if its a way to reassamble that two partitions or combine the last two
P.S. I said 6Gb because in the earlier post you can see i calculate the sum of that first 2 partitions firs about 2 Bg like you say and econg about 4 Gb again like you said
Brocky2011 said:
i wanna intall a lot of games and apps that has the data folder in internal mem and the data is big like RF2013 or NFSMW or Asphalt 7 and more games and if i have 16 gb microsd card i wanna use it for this, music and movies
so tell me if its a way to reassamble that two partitions or combine the last two
P.S. I said 6Gb because in the earlier post you can see i calculate the sum of that first 2 partitions firs about 2 Bg like you say and econg about 4 Gb again like you said
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Short, and clear - use this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=36613948&postcount=1017
"changed memory" It will make your external SD to act like internal. And all data for stuff you install will go there.
Hi all, never thought to ask this before, but what is the maximum file size that can be stored on the internal sd? Also what is the format of the internal sd as I know fat32 is upto 4gig but I don't know if it is fat32 or not?
It is ext4 fat32 is a Microsoft things. I have never had an issue with coping any file. Never copied anything over 2gb though as most files are not even close to that.