I am a T-Mobile user and I understand that the International version is limited to 2G versions. Since I mostly use wifi for data, that is not a deal breaker and the reports are that T-mobile is ramping up use of the 1900MHZ band (http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2398742,00.asp). But I am curious what performance you are getting on 2G. I remember that an older Blackberry used some tricks to get fairly decent performance on 2G. Just wondering.
I have been using my note on 2g for a few weeks now, and I have been pleasantly surprised with its performance. The speeds are very slow, but that is pretty much expected. I was able to hop onto the market and download speedtest with hardly any loading times besides the actual app download. To me, the speeds are very bearable and I will patiently wait and hope that someone gets 3g working. I use Wifi mostly anyway so it isn't that big of a deal.
At my job, I just got a whopping 193kbps download speed. Around my house, I can probably get double that since the speeds here always suck. Good thing I have wifi 90% of the time anyway!
Thanks. Exactly the kind of info I was looking for. I rarely browse extensively on the go, but I do need to get email and check an occasional page. Most of the time I have WiFi available. Videos, etc. are never on the agenda.
A test at my house was actually worse than my previous test, but it varies. Sometimes it will be a little faster.
The testmy.net show it gets up to 250kbps, but I would guess 10 to 25KBs is realistic, 30kbps+ if lucky.
I can browse with it, the load time is quick enough, as long as its two or three tabs and not opening a bunch at once. Especially using AdFree to block ads helps. Google Maps/Navigaition are usable as it manages to load new tiles.
Downloading apps takes a long time and usually will have to let it runs in the background. YouTube is out of the question except for lower quality and waiting for it to buffer.
I would say it is acceptable as long as you have WiFi access at places that you go.
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First, I HAVE searched for 3G speed ups, 3G adjustments, ect. I HAVE read the WiKi until my eyes are RED without finding any solution to my problen.
Using AT&T Tilt, 6.0 Stock Rom/Radio
Rom:1.62.00.00
Radio:1.27.14.09
Prot:22.45.88.07H
My 3G down speed is 141k with .49 sec latency. This sinks!
Things that I have tried:
Larger RWIN.
Increase connections
Increased re transmits .
Three browsers PIE OPRA NetFront.
WiFi speed 1.456k .02sec.
It takes an enormous amount of time "Locating" and "Opening" a page before it begins to load.
Perhaps a different DNS server might help that but can not find any info on how to change the DNS server.
Any help would be appreciated. It is still within the 30 day AT&T return window and if it can't do better than this, it is going back.
You can probably thank all those 3G iPhones. After they hit the market my speeds plummeted too.
Have you tried other radios?
Indeed, you'll have to put up with it, be it with the Tilt or any other phone. Data network usage has increased a lot following the release of the 3G iphone, and in some places the network just can't cope.
JimmyMcGee said:
You can probably thank all those 3G iPhones. After they hit the market my speeds plummeted too.
Have you tried other radios?
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Tell me about it! The only place I can even think about getting decent 3G signal these days is in San Francisco. Damn those iPhone users, ruining my great tethering experience!
neely30188 said:
It takes an enormous amount of time "Locating" and "Opening" a page before it begins to load.
Perhaps a different DNS server might help that but can not find any info on how to change the DNS server.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=276694
Search helps ...........
Also,
https://www.opendns.com/smb/start/device/windows-mobile-5-pocketpc
It's a lot better here than it was immediately post-launch of the ipoon but it's still pretty bad. I get decent 3G speeds but the downloads stall which is worse than just going slowly.
Sometimes it'll download a 200-300k file to 90% almost immediately then just sit there forever. I have to cancel and restart the download a few times. Very annoying. Better than it was before still.. A few months ago there was nearly zero chance of downloading anything over 3G. Email took forever to sync, and downloading in IE/Opera was impossible.
Interesting experiment I tried though... I took a file, blah.jpg. Copied it to blah.png blah.exe blah.zip blah.lkdjfa etc... Blah.jpg, .png, .lkdsjflak etc, all downloaded pretty reliably. .zip, .exe, .rar, etc... did not. I haven't seen anyone else suggest this sort of pattern, but I found it very interesting.
I'm using OpenDNS now too w/ AT*T's 3G (H). So far it's an improvement, but still not what it used to be. Still stuck between 600 - 1020 kbit/sec w/ .302s latency. I used to be around 1300 religiously.
Thanks for your replies. I did some testing and here is what I have found. I ran a series of 10 tests in each situation and tossed out the high and low and averaged the rest.
First, changed the DNS server and that made quite a difference in the "Location" time but of course did nothing for the down speed.
Second, with DSLreports Mobile speed test using 1 MB block, I found that PIE was twice as fast as the NetFront browser that I was using. The same was true loading large pages such as CNN.com. Darn, I really liked NetFront. I will have to try some other browsers.
Third, I found that using software and header compression made no difference.
Speeds last night around 1am were avg around 145k, today at 12pm the are avg around 700k with PIE and 325k with NetFront, go figure.
What is the WINS address and would it help to change it?
Can I change to a better access point? [mine is wap.singular]
I live waaaay, way out in the boonies, where I have no real way to get high speed internet at all. I realized that I could pay another 30 bucks a month for internet on the phone, but figured I'd get the same crappy, 56K BS that I'd always gotten out here.
And sure enough, run a simple speed check, I end up with 7.8K, not too shabby, and slightly better than I expected, but at least I had internet again. I go to start a file download after browsing for a while, and to my disbelief it skyrocketted up to 150Kbps, and I didn't quite figure understand how, until I researched just how fast HSDPA is.
Now! This is relevant, because the phone's comm manager only gives me the option of "3g on" and "automatic". Automatic only allows me to give the phone control over which signal it prefers, not the one I'm looking for intentionally. And when connected to an H-Tower with one bar, is still 6 times better than an E tower with three bars.
I'm trying to make it stay on an H-Tower no matter what. How do I accomplish this? Via a pay-program, or whichever.
Answered own question. here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2535996
Had to log in before I could search, and google brought up nothing, or else I would of asked. I'll leave it up so that maybe someone else who's searching the same way I had will find this.
I did a speed test for both 3g and over my wifi using the speedtest.net app in the marking and got some strange results.
1st test over 3g: 561k down, 410k up ping 232 ms and thats after opening the app.
2nd test I left app open and just pushed test again and got 931k down and 373k up 181ms ping.
Over wifi 1st test 910k down 371k up 259ms ping, again did test after just opening app
2nd test left app open and pushed test again and got 5744k down 768k up 112ms ping.
I did several test, about 20 with tests some after just opening app and some leaving app open and just pushing test button again. I did this because web pages over wifi seemed to load just as fast as on 3g. Any ideas?
Bronk93 said:
I did a speed test for both 3g and over my wifi using the speedtest.net app in the marking and got some strange results.
1st test over 3g: 561k down, 410k up ping 232 ms and thats after opening the app.
2nd test I left app open and just pushed test again and got 931k down and 373k up 181ms ping.
Over wifi 1st test 910k down 371k up 259ms ping, again did test after just opening app
2nd test left app open and pushed test again and got 5744k down 768k up 112ms ping.
I did several test, about 20 with tests some after just opening app and some leaving app open and just pushing test button again. I did this because web pages over wifi seemed to load just as fast as on 3g. Any ideas?
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Not really a fair comparison, as of now 3g is capped at around (2?)mb download, the wifi is as fast as the internet you pay for. If you pay for 15mb/s internet, that's should be how fast the internet on your phone should be
I think the point was the strange readings on the first run vs the second run.
I have tried this and I am getting the same results. The second run is always noticeably faster.
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If you pay for 15mb/s internet, that's should be how fast the internet on your phone should be
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Key word, "should"... In reality, that is not the case for the Dream. I have never seen a speed test over 6Mb/s down on the Dream even though I have 18Mb/s internet service.
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I think the point was the strange readings on the first run vs the second run.
I have tried this and I am getting the same results. The second run is always noticeably faster.
Key word, "should"... In reality, that is not the case for the Dream. I have never seen a speed test over 6Mb/s down on the Dream even though I have 18Mb/s internet service.
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Yup, same here... I have 15MB/s, and my max ever was high 5's... a lot of it has to do with the server for the test.
As well, just because you have that fast of data transfer doesn't mean the phone can process that much data that fast and render. The real limitation in loading a webpage isn't the internet speed (assuming you are about 1mb/s) it is the ability of the phone to actually process that much info that fast and render it into what we see on the phone. This is why despite a speed difference between 3G and WiFi pages seem to load just as fast on both. The only difference one might see is during d/l's, but even then those are typically limited by the host server.
Hello All
Has anyone found a good data counter for the Galaxy. I use the Mobile AP tool a lot to share internet with my laptop. I used to have an MDA Diamond running Windows and my traffic per month was usually between 1 gig and 2 gig which was reported by i think Octrotalk or something, it was the default data counter that came with the phone.
My problem is that now i'm on Android i can't use that program so i've been using NetCounter which has good reviews but i don't believe the figures its reporting. I tried the Phone Usage app too but that didn't even report anything. In nearly a full month NetCounter says ive only used 141 mb which is way too low. I go on Youtube, I download apps and i surf all via the phone then i connect to my laptop 4 days a week and stay connected for around 9 hours. I have XDA and Facebook both on tab most of the time as well as visiting other sites and i play quite a lot of java games on Facebook so surely it should be higher than 141mb
Was the windows phone just downloading lots of extra rubbish?
or is NetCounter not reporting correctly?
I use 3G Watchdog, seems to work alright and has a nice widget to sit on your homescreen
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I use 3G Watchdog, seems to work alright and has a nice widget to sit on your homescreen
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same here
once we upgrade to froyo there is a better one that tracks the usage of each single application in your PC... i mean SGS phone
AllGamer said:
same here
once we upgrade to froyo there is a better one that tracks the usage of each single application in your PC... i mean SGS phone
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Lol.... yea when it eventually gets released, that's another thing to look forward to then
Thank you both for your answers, i'll install it right away and report back in about a months time.
Iv personally used 3g watchdog for some time and had a slight problem with the program resetting the counter before the end of the month/bill tried everything but it never kept counting till needed
currently using net counter from android market which never gave me any problems yet , running good and strong for a couple of months now no random resets, im not quite sure about sharing the 3g connection as i never did yet. i tried it at first when i got the phone and found out the connection was working a little faster than the 3.5g wireless modem i use for my laptop which only proved to me that the phone was as amazing as it is.
i recommend both as both give you detailed info with 3g , wifi usage but for tethering im not quite sure if its counted in those 2 programs
i guess u could make things easier and get a counter for ur pc/laptop and then simple set the tethered connection as a seperate one and at the end of the month add the phones counter with the laptop's one (( doing all this just to reduce the load on the phone and get an accurate measure for how much ur using from ur data plan))
LOL i recently found out from a techie at my cell provider ETISALAT that the unlimited*** 3.5g data package notice the 3 stars ***= a monthly limit of 10GB of both upload/download combined worth 135 dollers a month. They sure know how to suck us dry >_<
Mobile Counter
I used 3G watchdog for quite sometime but it wasnt as accurate and it stayed in status bar no matter what we try which was quite irritating
So i switched to Mobile Counter app..i luv it..it is accurate..shows many graphs..and the best thing u also have widgets in that..BABY I LIKE IT!!
Hit THANKS if i helped
Ok guys, seriously. This device is amazing except for the fact that the wifi on it
absolutely sucks.
Is it hardware, and do I need to go exchange mine,
or is it software?
Try loading dropbox.. how fast do the files dl? Have you tried tethering to a 3g phone to compare speeds or tested other networks? Are you just testing browser speed and have you tried Opera or Dolphin HD to compare?
Dropbox is REALLY slow and fails to download more often than it succeeds. Which sucks cause I am using it to save the apps that I want in case there's an update that wipes everything.
Dolphin HD is not bad, but still really slow. like 10 seconds for google.com to load.
I have an alternate market installed, and its good, but almost useless since It fails to download so often.
EDIT: oops, I do not have tethering on a 3g since I am not paying the rediculous 3g fees when I have wifi everywhere. I would literally never use the 3g.
And since you are required to get a data plan if you get an android, or any other smartphone, that is out of my reach.
I wonder if the cell companies realize that they are losing money this way?
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Dropbox is REALLY slow and fails to download more often than it succeeds. Which sucks cause I am using it to save the apps that I want in case there's an update that wipes everything.
Dolphin HD is not bad, but still really slow. like 10 seconds for google.com to load.
I have an alternate market installed, and its good, but almost useless since It fails to download so often.
EDIT: oops, I do not have tethering on a 3g since I am not paying the rediculous 3g fees when I have wifi everywhere. I would literally never use the 3g.
And since you are required to get a data plan if you get an android, or any other smartphone, that is out of my reach.
I wonder if the cell companies realize that they are losing money this way?
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Have you tested other networks? Is the wifi weak where you live? If yes to both swap the NC with another unit.. My 3g/wifi tethered connection is about 4 seconds to load google on the stock browser. Dropbox has never dropped a single app I have uploaded or DL's (awesome app btw!!).
Well, Im on a college campus, there are usually 4 or 5 APs visible on the same channel with the same name at any given time. iPhones work fine on it, iPod touches work well on it...
The nook registered with the network easier than any of the above devices, except that it drops connections/can't download/download speed is terrible.
10equals2 said:
Well, Im on a college campus, there are usually 4 or 5 APs visible on the same channel with the same name at any given time. iPhones work fine on it, iPod touches work well on it...
The nook registered with the network easier than any of the above devices, except that it drops connections/can't download/download speed is terrible.
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Why not go to the same BN you bought the unit and test the wifi against the demo units? IF yours is considerable slower or the signal is weaker swap it as defective.
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Ok guys, seriously. This device is amazing except for the fact that the wifi on it
absolutely sucks.
Is it hardware, and do I need to go exchange mine,
or is it software?
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No problems here, fast on wifi at home or 3g tether.
Novaglarion said:
No problems here, fast on wifi at home or 3g tether.
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What have you been using to tether?
I think the worst-case is that the nook does not like the wifi here. That no nook would work well with this network. Linux doen't like the network either, it will keep randomly disconnecting and reconnecting. It makes me worry that I have a device that will basically have no internet until I leave college.
I have no problems with wifi on this device.
Using 6 mbit AT&T DSL Home Service, over wifi wireless-g, WRT54-GL flashed to Tomato 1.25. Both devices in the next room, in the same spot, downloading a 28.3 MB file.
Nook Color: 1m 1s
Evo 4G: 1m 8s
So, defective devices notwithstanding, there is nothing inherently wrong with the Nook's wifi performance at all.
you guys suck. Mine is pretty much useless for webbrowsing, and IM BARELY works, dropbox just refuses to fully download anything.
Guess it's back to B&N tomorrow... I guess I'll unroot it tonight.
Also it was doing this before the root, so I know its not that .
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you guys suck. Mine is pretty much useless for webbrowsing, and IM BARELY works, dropbox just refuses to fully download anything.
Guess it's back to B&N tomorrow... I guess I'll unroot it tonight.
Also it was doing this before the root, so I know its not that .
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Just swap it and report back.. You'll be up to speed in no time
Yeah, I'm just worried that it doesn't like our wpa enterprise network and it'll never work on it...
Thanks guys, I guess I'll report back when I get a new one.
Damnit guys... Now I'm just confused...
Guess this thing is broken, and back to the store it goes...
I was having the same issues as yourself.....till i:
Switched my security from "WPA-PSK [TKIP]" to "WPA2-PSK [AES]"
Changing Channel on Router Solved: Once Slow Nook Wifi to Super Fast Nook Wifi
I just wanted to pass along the solution that worked for me:
I had a nook wifi and bought a new nook wifi/3g for my mom. Sometime after synching both of these, my nook wifi starting going in like super slow mo! So much, that it was almost useless to try to shop for new books. My favorite search is "0.00 <any topic>" to search for free books on a particular topic.
So, after googling for like ever, the fix I tried that worked was to change the channel on my router (linksys) from channel 6 to channel 11
Whallah, didn't have to reenter my credentials (I'm using wep security), everything just went from super slow mo to super fast again! Love my nook again!
yea im having issues too, but i dont think its with the nook color. i was using it stock rooted for a few days and it was pretty quick. recently put on froyo and now market is slow and so is browsing. going to try a higher class card and see if that helps. but ill have to look up other answers.