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considering nc, waiting on ces to see what is released in 7" formats...
looking for a ebook reader first, tablet second. have a mot droid, so was figuring android reader might be better than kindle.
Was wondering if anyone is using the nc with the kindle app, and if so, how it compared to using the kindle itself?
Also, is there a sticky thread of how to simply root the nc? In my brief search I found a thread 136 pages long, I was hoping there would be a simple 5 or 10 step process thread? thanks.
Don't see why you'd want to use the kindle app but I dont see why it wouldn't work...
http://nookdevs.com/NookColor_Rooting
There's also a sticky in the apps development section for nook color on this forum that has everything you need to know about rooting.
I'm using the Kindle app on my rooted NC. I'm doing so to avoid the possible reboot/reset issues when accessing the BN store from a rooted device.
However, I have never used a Kindle, so I can't compare the app to that device. The app is very fluid and readable, and I have no problems using it. I'm taking a long trip in a few weeks and will really get a chance to test it then.
The auto-nooter thread is long, but the process is nicely summarized in the first post. The one "gotcha" that tripped me up was in step 12 where you log in to YouTube. You *must* add "@gmail.com" at the end of your login id. Don't just use your base GMail or YouTube id (as I did), or you may have to repeat the whole process. The device will be rooted but Market won't work if you miss this key point (which is not in the first post, but it does show up farther down the thread).
So, don't be put off by the long thread. The thread got bloated somewhat with many of the same questions being asked & answered over & over.
I am using the Kindle app - don't know how it compares to a Kindle, 'cause I've never had one I used the Kindle app on my HD2 and Blackberry.
It seems comparable to the Nook app - read a book, turn pages, bookmark, press on a word to highlight or to look up, change font sizes, etc. etc.
As for rooting the Nook, just read the first post here. Follow directions. It's really a simple, step-by-step process.
The only snafu I had was trying to use winimage. Wouldn't work for me. Another kind soul pointed me to to the freeware version: https://launchpad.net/win32-image-writer/+download. This is the one that finally worked.
Otherwise, there were no hiccups trying to root.
Read the instructions. Read them again. Follow each step explicity. Worked for me and plenty of others here.
I use it exclusively and love it. I also have a kindle II that I have used for the past year.
There is no comparison, the NC running Kindle is much better IMO. I am holding my final opinion until I see how the battery life works out with daily use. So far so good.
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Works fine for free books added directly with .mobi files but I can't get it to open purchased books sent from my Amazon account and that I was reading on my iPad. They show up ok in the list but it says it can't open them and they need to be removed and redownloaded...that doesn't help. Not sure what's up with that?
I have the Kindle app installed and it does work but I can not access the Amazon store through it. No matter what I try, it always gives me an error page when attempting to access Amazon's purchase/download portal. Side-loaded books work fine though.
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I use it exclusively and love it. I also have a kindle II that I have used for the past year.
There is no comparison, the NC running Kindle is much better IMO. I am holding my final opinion until I see how the battery life works out with daily use. So far so good.
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Don't forget to disable the phone.apk and telephony.apk
Supposed to make a considerable difference on the battery life.
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I have the Kindle app installed and it does work but I can not access the Amazon store through it. No matter what I try, it always gives me an error page when attempting to access Amazon's purchase/download portal. Side-loaded books work fine though.
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Looks as the same problem I am having then, did you try sending the book from the Amazon Kindle website too? Wonder if you can take the book form an iPad and sideload it? DRM might be a problem.
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Looks as the same problem I am having then, did you try sending the book from the Amazon Kindle website too? Wonder if you can take the book form an iPad and sideload it? DRM might be a problem.
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OK. this sounds like a big problem. This is what I want to use the NC for. I should be able to purchase kindle books, and I should be able to read them on my pc, my droid, and my NC, especially my NC. Are you saying that this won't work, that you can't purchase books and read them on the NC?
Using the Kindle App and it works fine
First to the question why use the Kindle app on the Nook Color (other than the undeniable pleasure of being able to say I use both on the same device)--well, lots of ebooks are available from Amazon that aren't available anywhere else. It's true that I was unable to purchase a book directly from Amazon on my nook, but I did so on my Android phone and then synced the nook to my Amazon account, and it downloaded flawlessly. (Now if I could only get the Kindle book onto my nook's homescreen. That would be a real ---- you to B&N!)
OK. this sounds like a big problem. This is what I want to use the NC for. I should be able to purchase kindle books, and I should be able to read them on my pc, my droid, and my NC, especially my NC. Are you saying that this won't work, that you can't purchase books and read them on the NC?
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Contrary to drwohl's experience, I was unable to get the Kindle app on my NC to sync with my Amazon account. I always get an error when I fire it up that it was unable to sync. My login info is correct, so I'm not sure what the issue is. Side-note, the Kindle store and sync both work on my Epic 4g *shrug*
I've only been able to use the Kindle app to read side-loaded content so far.
I've rooted the NC and love it, and use the Kindle app exclusively. You can't buy the books directly using the Kindle Store, but you just need to use the browser and buy the book there and it'll download it! You need to go to the Kindle app and go to Archived Items and Sync and they'll be there. You can then long press on the book and move it to Downloaded Books. Works great!!! Lovin' it.
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OK. this sounds like a big problem. This is what I want to use the NC for. I should be able to purchase kindle books, and I should be able to read them on my pc, my droid, and my NC, especially my NC. Are you saying that this won't work, that you can't purchase books and read them on the NC?
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Yes haven't been able to send a book successfully to my NC from the Amazon Kindle website so far, get an "can't read book error, remove and download", tried that, it didn't help. Not sure why, possibly a DRM issue.
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I've rooted the NC and love it, and use the Kindle app exclusively. You can't buy the books directly using the Kindle Store, but you just need to use the browser and buy the book there and it'll download it! You need to go to the Kindle app and go to Archived Items and Sync and they'll be there. You can then long press on the book and move it to Downloaded Books. Works great!!! Lovin' it.
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Ok. just to make sure i understand this before i drop $250, if I buy my book via the amazon website rather than the kindle app, it will work? Get the book say when I am on my computer. Then on NC, go into kindle app, look in archived items, and do a sync, then I can read on NC?
To test this, I just downloaded a sample from Amazon's site, using Opera Mobile on my NOOKcolor, and it was sent to the Kindle app on my nook with no problems. Though it was only a sample, I can't see it being any different with a purchased book.
I had previously synced books I had previously purchased onto the nook without any problems.
Has anyone tested this with Dolphin HD, xscope, or other browsers?
So it looks like we can still purchase/sync books all on the device - just use the browser.
Got it to work for sample books but not for purchased books, see error message above.
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Got it to work for sample books but not for purchased books, see error message above.
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I just purchased a Kindle book on my nook using Opera Mobile, and am now reading it in the Kindle app ("A Kidnapped Santa Claus".... Because it was .95... Try if you want to test for cheap).
Those having problems, what browser are you using?
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Don't forget to disable the phone.apk and telephony.apk
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How do you disable them. I tried to disable using root manager and explorer but could only fine the option to delete them.
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How do you disable them. I tried to disable using root manager and explorer but could only fine the option to delete them.
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Rename the files to anything else (I put .bak on the end).
i am searching for a tablet. today i see kindle fire HD annouced in amazon.
their specs are very nice.
i want to know if i buy them, i can use it like an android tablet, install JB, google play apps and other stuff.
the question is: i can use kindle fire hd like a tablet, install custom roms (have developers?) and all google play apps?
if not. have some other tablet 7´ to 9´, with hdmi out and high performance system?
tanks
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i am searching for a tablet. today i see kindle fire HD annouced in amazon.
their specs are very nice.
i want to know if i buy them, i can use it like an android tablet, install JB, google play apps and other stuff.
the question is: i can use kindle fire hd like a tablet, install custom roms (have developers?) and all google play apps?
if not. have some other tablet 7´ to 9´, with hdmi out and high performance system?
tanks
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1879962
Is there separate section for 8,9inch version?
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Is there separate section for 8,9inch version?
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Not yet, but it doesn't come 'til November anyways so.
I would like to put the CM 10.1 ROM on my Kindle Fire, but I don't want to lose Amazon Video. I'm assuming that Amazon Video doesn't work if I put a different ROM on my Fire. Is that assumption correct? Is there a way around this?
Thanks for any insight.
Funny I just installed it yesterday(amazon video)... I'm on the tablet version of cm 10.1, and I installed a version of amazon video I found laying around in the forums that is said to work on other android devices, here's the catch, the device can't be rooted, or so I have heard just like on kindles once you root it the instant video won't work, though k thought that was only prime so I am not completely sure how this affects it. So my answer that needs to be improves on is yes the app will work, as to actually watching the videos I am not sure, you may have to de-root the cm os, which I am not sure if that is a good idea. That's my 2 cents, see if anybody else can be of more use.
Edit: ever time I try to watch a free video I get a "unfortunately this program has stopped working" error
Seems like a stupid move for them to not release an android app for us to use their services, they'd rather we buy a kindle, or in this case not flash our kindle if we want to use it.
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My Kindle is already rooted and prime videos work. I have the stock rom with the play store. I want to use cm 10.1, but don't want to lose amazon prime videos. It's disappointing that this is even an issue.
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My Kindle is already rooted and prime videos work. I have the stock rom with the play store. I want to use cm 10.1, but don't want to lose amazon prime videos. It's disappointing that this is even an issue.
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I have CM10.1 on my Kindle now and live abroad so I cannot even use the Amazon video store. I'm curious though - can you access the videos by logging into Amazon in the tablet's browser instead, like you would if you were on a desktop?
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I have CM10.1 on my Kindle now and live abroad so I cannot even use the Amazon video store. I'm curious though - can you access the videos by logging into Amazon in the tablet's browser instead, like you would if you were on a desktop?
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You can if you have flash installed and working.
I just discovered that the Kinology ROM allows the use of Amazon Video, plus all the google framework and 3rd party launchers. It's not CM 10.1, but it is better than stock.
I have CM 10.1 and live abroad, I use a VPN and Firefox to watch Amazon Prime Videos.
I have been using Nook HD+(10inch) running Carbon rom in EMMC. It works pretty well. That and my GN2. When I originally brought the HD+ I was looking at the screen resolution as my primary concern as I use my tablet mainly for reading manga and watching movie. And it does that perfectly well. Now that the 7inch have just updated(Nexus 7 and assuming the new KFHD will follow) to have at least FHD resolution, I'm thinking maybe getting 7-inch tablet to replace the 10-inch is not such a bad idea. While I still concern about the resolution being so cram that any manga reading would be terrible, but I can try doing so simulation to experience with that. And that would be just any HD 7-inch tablet in general. My concern in choosing the variant of 7-inch would be the eco-system since it would look like either the new 2013 Nexus 7 or the new KFHD would be 2 obvious choice. Right now I have app in both Google Play Store and Amazon App Store, but since neither of my phone or tablet is Kindle based it's hard to judge. The problem I have right now is the Amazon App Store, for many time it seem after each update of Amazon App Store it force me to re-login. That alone isn't so bad, but combining the fact that Amazon App Store now doesn't allow you to paste the password in, this is a big issue for me as I use(and should be using) a long complex password. So this brought me to the questions.
1. How does the KFHD work in regarding the app management and the app store service? Does it work as well as normal android using Google Play Store?
2. Does the KF experience allow you to have Google Play Store work in conjunction with? I know the Nook UI was terrible with this prior to the official support.
3. Since I also have Prime, I know I could use watch FHD content on the KFHD, but IF say custom rom on the new KFHD is possible(still not sure is that a good idea yet nor would the new device be a total lock down) would an Amazon video would still works? I know this is more like education guess at this point, but I think the better question would be; based on the past experience how does Amazon support or restrict the mod community effect the experience? I know that was one of the problem comparing Nook HD to the KFHD, since the Nook HD hardware was more open than the KFHD, meaning easier to get custom rom running.
Any constructive advices are also appreciated.
Thanks,
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I have been using Nook HD+(10inch) running Carbon rom in EMMC. It works pretty well. That and my GN2. When I originally brought the HD+ I was looking at the screen resolution as my primary concern as I use my tablet mainly for reading manga and watching movie. And it does that perfectly well. Now that the 7inch have just updated(Nexus 7 and assuming the new KFHD will follow) to have at least FHD resolution, I'm thinking maybe getting 7-inch tablet to replace the 10-inch is not such a bad idea. While I still concern about the resolution being so cram that any manga reading would be terrible, but I can try doing so simulation to experience with that. And that would be just any HD 7-inch tablet in general. My concern in choosing the variant of 7-inch would be the eco-system since it would look like either the new 2013 Nexus 7 or the new KFHD would be 2 obvious choice. Right now I have app in both Google Play Store and Amazon App Store, but since neither of my phone or tablet is Kindle based it's hard to judge. The problem I have right now is the Amazon App Store, for many time it seem after each update of Amazon App Store it force me to re-login. That alone isn't so bad, but combining the fact that Amazon App Store now doesn't allow you to paste the password in, this is a big issue for me as I use(and should be using) a long complex password. So this brought me to the questions.
1. How does the KFHD work in regarding the app management and the app store service? Does it work as well as normal android using Google Play Store?
2. Does the KF experience allow you to have Google Play Store work in conjunction with? I know the Nook UI was terrible with this prior to the official support.
3. Since I also have Prime, I know I could use watch FHD content on the KFHD, but IF say custom rom on the new KFHD is possible(still not sure is that a good idea yet nor would the new device be a total lock down) would an Amazon video would still works? I know this is more like education guess at this point, but I think the better question would be; based on the past experience how does Amazon support or restrict the mod community effect the experience? I know that was one of the problem comparing Nook HD to the KFHD, since the Nook HD hardware was more open than the KFHD, meaning easier to get custom rom running.
Any constructive advices are also appreciated.
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OK lemme try to answer this to the best of my abilities:
1. If you are asking does the amazon store work decently then yes it works pretty well, and everything u buy will show up in your cloud so u don't have to go to the store and search for it to reinstall it, u just goto ur cloud to do so. Personally I don't like the amazon store as much because IMHO it seems like I could sometimes find newer versions of apps I bought there in the Google store, but that was only in some cases.
2.Google play store works just fine. The Google play store does work in conjunction with the amazon store in a sense, as far as I know if it recognizes an app from the Amazon store and let's say its a free app and the Google store has a more up to date version it will let u update it, but in terms of using both at once they work fine, just don't ever update amazon apps that show up in Google play store as they mess up when updated, and u have to uninstall them.
3. We indeed have custom roms, I am currently on one myself, jesters tablet ui of hashcode's cm10.1. Unfortunately as far as I know there is no way to watch amazon movies on a alternate ROM outside of using flash player on their site, and keep in mind flash player is quite buggy on jb since adobe decided to stop supporting android... My flash player tends to crash when watching videos online if I click inside the flash player more than around 8 times.
Also thought I'd mention from experience I enjoy reading tons of manga on my kindle HD 7”, don't know if u have have been using a web browser for it, but if u have I highly suggest getting a free app called quick manga from the Google play store, it supports a lot of sites and only dl's the picture and displays it while preloading the next few pages. It allows you to bookmark them, keeps track of your current chapter and page, and download chapters if u want for off line viewing as well. I love me some manga! I have over 227 manga total in my library, not all that are ongoing though. If you ever need manga suggestions feel free to pm me!
Hope I answered your questions, I was falling asleep reading manga and got on the forum to wake myself up so I wasn't exactly in the best condition while reading and replying to your questions.
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Thanks for the quick response. So KFHD won't just ask you to re-login every time there is the app store update? And say, when the next KFHD come out and your current one broke, would you buy the new one or the Nexus 7 considering if the new KFHD has FHD resolution also?
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Thanks for the quick response. So KFHD won't just ask you to re-login every time there is the app store update? And say, when the next KFHD come out and your current one broke, would you buy the new one or the Nexus 7 considering if the new KFHD has FHD resolution also?
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OK to clear one thing up, on the amazon os, the amazon app store doesn't update, and if it does it does it with the is updates. The kindles linked to your account and always stays signed in unless you unlink it, or for some reason if you clear your cache and dalvik cache , that will also usually unlink it for me.
As to your other question I am not very sure, I have never had an android device before my kindle, I haven't had a cellphone in 2 years since I lost mine outside. The kindle I have is a gift and I am jobless, and after having experience using a kindle and flashing a new is on it I find it fun to do because I'm a PC tech. But I look at it this way, if a new kindle comes out, we will first have to find out how to root it, this may be the easier part. Second we would have to determine if its even feasible to be able to put a custom or 2nd boot loader on it like the past 3(not counting first gen because it was already unlocked). So if the new one came out and u wanted to get one right away the nexus would probably be a better idea unless you want to wait and see how the new one would be in terms of rooting and flashing. But personally since I haven't used any other tablets, the kindle has grown on me, so I would probably get the new one if I could assuming the conditions above could be met.
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And say, when the next KFHD come out and your current one broke, would you buy the new one or the Nexus 7 considering if the new KFHD has FHD resolution also?
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As a former Nexus 7 (2012 version) owner for 10 months, I have an opinion
Assuming the new KFHD has FHD like the new Nexus 7, I would buy a new KFHD. Once rooted, the Kindle offers the full Amazon content and UI that I enjoy since I am a prime member, and the minimal UI that a third-party launcher (like Nova) offers. This is how I have my current KFHD configured. All the Google apps like Hangouts, Google+, etc, plus Amazon content.
The Nexus 7 offers a pure Android experience, but to be honest, I like do not like Google Play Books, nor do I like Google Play Movies. Since I am Prime, Google cannot compete with Amazon Prime books and instant video streaming. Oh, and I love Kindle Free Time unlimited kids's content for $3 per month.
But... if I were not Prime, then I would get a new Nexus 7 (2013) instead of a new KFHD FHD tablet.
Just one guy's opinion.
-T
If you want the benefits of the Amazon side of things AND those of the Google side of things, go for the custom ROM called Kinology. It's the stock OS with the Google services stack installed, along with some of the annoyances fixed and a few extra features.
Thank you, I will keep an eye out for that custom rom. I would not have known that if I didn't post the question nor dig deeply in the KFHD scene.
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If you want the benefits of the Amazon side of things AND those of the Google side of things, go for the custom ROM called Kinology. It's the stock OS with the Google services stack installed, along with some of the annoyances fixed and a few extra features.
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I'm pretty much like you, T-Bone, while I'm using Nook HD+, ,y launcher of choice has always been Nova. And generally, I would not install the additional google store myself. Never touch those book/music/etc store and sometime I even use Titanium backup and force remove those stuff myself.
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As a former Nexus 7 (2012 version) owner for 10 months, I have an opinion
Assuming the new KFHD has FHD like the new Nexus 7, I would buy a new KFHD. Once rooted, the Kindle offers the full Amazon content and UI that I enjoy since I am a prime member, and the minimal UI that a third-party launcher (like Nova) offers. This is how I have my current KFHD configured. All the Google apps like Hangouts, Google+, etc, plus Amazon content.
The Nexus 7 offers a pure Android experience, but to be honest, I like do not like Google Play Books, nor do I like Google Play Movies. Since I am Prime, Google cannot compete with Amazon Prime books and instant video streaming. Oh, and I love Kindle Free Time unlimited kids's content for $3 per month.
But... if I were not Prime, then I would get a new Nexus 7 (2013) instead of a new KFHD FHD tablet.
Just one guy's opinion.
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I guess that mean, I'll wait for Amazon announcement and pre-order the new KFHD if the apec goes according to the rumor. Thank you for all your insightful input.
Just got my X43Z60 yesterday.
I am trying to take advantage of Amazon Prime Video which works very well on this device, but I also would like to get google play content so I was wondering, if I flash a custom rom, will I still be able to watch prime videos and if anybody has any suggestion on a kid friendly app that will limit the usage similar to free time?
You can't watch amazon prime on a custom ROM, it might be possible with flash on kitkat but I have never tried, I heard the functionality broke a while back to use it with flash. If you just got the kindle you might wanna mention what the os version is, because the 2013 kindles are not flashable with custom ROMs outside of the kindle water ROM that just reuses the stock kernel.
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You can't watch amazon prime on a custom ROM, it might be possible with flash on kitkat but I have never tried, I heard the functionality broke a while back to use it with flash. If you just got the kindle you might wanna mention what the os version is, because the 2013 kindles are not flashable with custom ROMs outside of the kindle water ROM that just reuses the stock kernel.
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Thank you.
I am using 7.4.8
My son is used to Playbook, which is really excellent in terms of functionality & ease of use, however lack of apps that he likes, and games is making it a bit outdated. Youtube and all that stuff is actually great on Playbook, no ads, good interface, and I can let him play with it anyway he wants, but with this Kindle, it's a little weird. Even in Kids freetime mode you can uninstall apps.
I really like the idea of freetime unlimited and I think I am going to go with that for now.
OK yea yours is the 2012 then, completely flashable.
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Thank you.
I am using 7.4.8
My son is used to Playbook, which is really excellent in terms of functionality & ease of use, however lack of apps that he likes, and games is making it a bit outdated. Youtube and all that stuff is actually great on Playbook, no ads, good interface, and I can let him play with it anyway he wants, but with this Kindle, it's a little weird. Even in Kids freetime mode you can uninstall apps.
I really like the idea of freetime unlimited and I think I am going to go with that for now.
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You can watch Amazon Instant Videos (rented/bought movies and shows) with flash but you cannot watch Prime Videos unless you are running Amazon firmware. You can't even access them. I have a Prime account and it's just not possible.
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