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I have seen few apps that are capable of doing this over Wi-Fi, Bluetooth and USB. But I am more interested in something that can do it over 3G. At work my desktop PC is not on a wireless network; there is Wi-Fi but on a spate subnet with no easy access to the main network. I do have Bluetooth / USB on my main desktop but I work from different PCs therefore its not very convenient for me to pair/connect it each time I go to a different PC. And I don’t use Wi-Fi at home either.
Then there are other benifits to using 3G like I can still access the phone even if I forget it somewhere (i.e at home in the car etc). The new HTC Sense services for HTC Desire HD will have remote access to SMS, call and location information , which is exactly what I'm after. But for now SMS alone is enough.
I came across one App called SMS2PC which can connect to a computer over 3G. But from what I gathered, with that the phone connects to the PC and pushes notifications, not the other way around. This is not going to work for me because at work I am behind a corporate firewall, so my phone cannot access the desktop.
Any other solutions ??
EDIT : i know SMS backup can backup text messages to google, but I can't reply from there. So that wont help much. And I'm not in US, therefore I dont have access to Google Voice service, so replying through that is not going to work either.
Is Google Voice avilable to you (specifically, you will need a Google Voice phone number)? If so, that will be my recommendation. In addition to free SMS and visual voice mail, you can use your Google Voice anywhere that you have access to a web browser. It doesn't have to be your phone.
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Is Google Voice avilable to you (specifically, you will need a Google Voice phone number)? If so, that will be my recommendation. In addition to free SMS and visual voice mail, you can use your Google Voice anywhere that you have access to a web browser. It doesn't have to be your phone.
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No google voice is not available ( as mentioned in my last line , coz I knew some one would suggest that).
I wonder why no one has made such an app so far.
Maybe I'll have to write my own.. haven't done any android programing yet, guess its about the time.. waiting for a break from work to start playing around with it a bit...
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I have seen few apps that are capable of doing this over Wi-Fi, Bluetooth and USB. But I am more interested in something that can do it over 3G. At work my desktop PC is not on a wireless network; there is Wi-Fi but on a spate subnet with no easy access to the main network. I do have Bluetooth / USB on my main desktop but I work from different PCs therefore its not very convenient for me to pair/connect it each time I go to a different PC. And I don’t use Wi-Fi at home either.
Then there are other benifits to using 3G like I can still access the phone even if I forget it somewhere (i.e at home in the car etc). The new HTC Sense services for HTC Desire HD will have remote access to SMS, call and location information , which is exactly what I'm after. But for now SMS alone is enough.
I came across one App called SMS2PC which can connect to a computer over 3G. But from what I gathered, with that the phone connects to the PC and pushes notifications, not the other way around. This is not going to work for me because at work I am behind a corporate firewall, so my phone cannot access the desktop.
Any other solutions ??
EDIT : i know SMS backup can backup text messages to google, but I can't reply from there. So that wont help much. And I'm not in US, therefore I dont have access to Google Voice service, so replying through that is not going to work either.
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I use smstools. It is in every major repo. However - from your non-technical wording - I assume that you use the gamerz OS (Windos). Worry not, you can easily compile the program yourself, or google for binaries.
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I use smstools. It is in every major repo. However - from your non-technical wording - I assume that you use the gamerz OS (Windos). Worry not, you can easily compile the program yourself, or google for binaries.
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Yes, I use Windows mostly . Thanks for that link, but I don't think thats quite what I want either. That seems to use the phone as a modem to send and receive SMSs; which means I'll have to connect the phone to a PC locally (i.e USB, IR, BT etc..).
I'm looking for a solution that allows me to connect to the phone remotely over the internet (phone online on 3G) to access and send messages. A setup where there is a PC client which polls the phone periodically for new messages and a server running on the phone allowing the PC client to gain access to its messaging service. So I don't have to connect/disconnect every time when changing PCs, it will also allow me to connect even when the phone is not with me (left behind at home / car ).
Ah, I got it now!
Well, of course you could compile SMSTOOLS for your phone
Or take a look at RemoteSMS or similar apps!
Also possible to remote control your handset via vnc-server. That one has far more possibilities than remote SMS-ing...
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Ah, I got it now!
Well, of course you could compile SMSTOOLS for your phone
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I’m coming from Windows development side, so pardon me for my ignorance on Linux dev. But from the little I know, you can't compile Unix/C code to Android, am I wrong ? At least not in a straightforward manner... You can only develop apps using their customized Java (Dalvic) , right
Even if its possible, I think developing an app from ground up is far more easier than trying to integrate smstools in to android. Besides, that doesn't solve my problem at all, because accessing the phone from the PC is the issue, and I don't see how running smstools on the phone is going to solve that.
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Or take a look at RemoteSMS or similar apps!
Also possible to remote control your handset via vnc-server. That one has far more possibilities than remote SMS-ing...
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RemoteSMS only works over Wi-Fi and BT, no 3G support .
I guess remote desktop is one solution, but I prefer a much simpler app. Besides VNC will not send me any notifications, I have to manually check. ..
Looks like I'll have to write my own app for this . Havent done any android development yet, looks like this is going to be my first project..
Wifi Keyboard works on 3g (yes dumb but )
3G might be blocked by some carriers.
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So it's means it can be used over 3G
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IAnd I'm not in US, therefore I dont have access to Google Voice service, so replying through that is not going to work either.
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You don't need to be in the US to get a Google Voice account or use it for SMS. I am in Canada and use it for SMS all the time.
See this link. Note that despite the title this will work for any country.
http://www.wifitalk.ca/iphone/howto-google-voice-in-canada/
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You don't need to be in the US to get a Google Voice account or use it for SMS. I am in Canada and use it for SMS all the time.
See this link. Note that despite the title this will work for any country.
http://www.wifitalk.ca/iphone/howto-google-voice-in-canada/
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Thanks, I'll give it a try. Are SMSs free for international numbers as well ?
EDIT : I don't want to login through some unknown proxy server and give out my credentials. Besides, it is not a permanent solution. another dead end
Waiting for new ideas
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Wifi Keyboard works on 3g (yes dumb but )
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Waiting for new ideas
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Hum ..... Have you tried it ?
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I’m coming from Windows development side, so pardon me for my ignorance on Linux dev. But from the little I know, you can't compile Unix/C code to Android, am I wrong ? At least not in a straightforward manner... You can only develop apps using their customized Java (Dalvic) , right
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Linux is a kernel, and Android is a Linux kernel based operating system. You can compile anything (that compiles for GNU/Linux for the given architecture) for Android/Linux as well. It will be native code however (as opposed to DALVIK, which is VM code). You have the option to cross-compile on your PC, or to compile code right on your phone. It is a command line affair... not some nice one-click task.
BTW I did not see in their own advert, that RemoteSMS would be limited to wifi... you sure? (Would be pretty weird move from them, since communicating over wifi and 3G is not really different from the programmer's point of view)
Found this today , posted on XDA : talkmyphone.
Exacly what I was looking for .
YAY!
Thank you! I have been looking for something like this because I am also behind a corporate firewall at work.
i love the phone... love the interface... but i do a lot of IM'ing thru yahoo,gtalk, and FBchat and i cant find any app for that...
i thought all phones should have that... and i was surprised the windows7 phone dont have this feature.
so if there is no IM client i can use, i consider this phone FAIL for me. Will return
Yes there is a free IM chat in Windows Phone 7 Market Place. Look for Messenger WP7-2 by Miyowa. It functions very simliar to desktop version of Live Messenger.
But thats only for messenger... I do a lot on yahoo chat and gtalk... Thats why im beginning to hate this phone. I cant use my phone nemore to chat. Im stuck on my laptop for now.
Is there any news on having a universal chat client for this phone?
Yes ... I understand what you are saying. I think those would be developed fairly soon. This is a new Phone OS and the more phones that are sold, the more likely great apps will be developed. That said, some basic items are missing that should have been included in launch.
I wonder if you can get to Google chat through logging into Google account via the browser. I`m going to try that along with Yahoo.
I think the reason for the delay in Chat apps is that WP7 offers no Socket communication at the moment. Everything has to be done with Web Requests. Since most Chatting programs use a TCP or UDP port it may take a while until either someone develops a Web interface for those services or Microsoft update the SDK.
And a quick note... I tried Google Talk via the webrowser. It requires a plugin, but when I tried to download the plug in it says windows phone does not support .exe files.
Yahoo chat was more promising, but Adobe Flash 9.0 needs to be installed. Flash is not supported yet on the phone. It wouldn`t install so web chat through browsers won`t work at this time.
Let`s hope the chat clients are released quickly !
this looks interesting !
http://mim.live.com
I tried it through the phone's IE Browser and it seems to work !
I hope i will be soon... Coz i really need a IM client that works Yahoo and Google
Another interesting note. In my MSN Mobile Canada app, there is also a place to login to IM. Never knew it was there !
hahaha even the zune hd has a messaging app where you can message on Live IM and Facebook chat.
Does Zune HD have Google and Yahoo chat ? If yes, then that would be a good sign Microsoft would bring it over to WP7. Even if there wasn't, I can't imagine that it would be very long before it is available to WP7. They are paying developers big $ so I'm sure there will 1000's more apps and IM clients on the way. What Apple did in 5 years with iPhone, Microsoft will do in half the time if not less.
I really love my HD7 and WP7. Everything that's available just works with nice looking interface.
Like all of you, I need YM, Facebook Chat & GTalk badly. Without these, I could never use my HD7 as my main phone.
I am also enjoying my HD7, it just has to be understood that this OS isn't a month old yet and the development of new apps take time, they cannot just be ported over from previous OSs. I for one like the direction this OS is going....still waiting patiently for a tethering app.
I think people are letting MS off the hook when they say its a new OS that why some thing are missing. The first Pocket pc phone edition that came out in 2000 had MSN messenger. That was 10 (Ten) years ago.
Yes there certainly was a few features missing out of the gate. No doubt Microsoft will fix. Now that they have the phone out in the market we either return it, or find ways to make it work until the app is developed. I know my iphone was missing features when I bought it but Apple finally came around.
As for Yahoo chat, try logging into http://m.yahoo.com/messenger from the browser. It seems to work quite nicely. Again short term work around.
And on the theme of accessing chat clients through mobile browser (two examples provided earlier), here are a number of Web-based (cloud) IM services that are either free or have a small charge for paid service. Seems to be very good solution as many of them integrates all chat clients into one interface (kind of like Fring).
http://im.about.com/od/joiningtheimworld/tp/web-based-chat.htm
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I think people are letting MS off the hook when they say its a new OS that why some thing are missing. The first Pocket pc phone edition that came out in 2000 had MSN messenger. That was 10 (Ten) years ago.
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there is a messenger app, what's the problem?
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there is a messenger app, what's the problem?
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And it was updated over the weekend, a vast improvment over the first version
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And it was updated over the weekend, a vast improvment over the first version
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the point is, it should be a default on every Phone... Instant messaging should be on of the defaults of this new WIN7 OS
this messenger i think is a third party app...
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the point is, it should be a default on every Phone... Instant messaging should be on of the defaults of this new WIN7 OS
this messenger i think is a third party app...
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apparently microsoft hired this 3rd party to make the official app.
And if its so important, then why do I not know one single person that uses it???
I think it is a cultural difference. In the USA, we tend to stick to text messaging since most of us have unlimited texting on our smartphone plans.
Hi guys, I have just found out that a skype video call software is out for HTC thunderbolt but can anyone crack it to use it on our SGS?
The apk can be found here:
http://lts.cr/YAV
I hope this is not a repeat thread, before it was EVO which got video calling but I guess it was exclusively for some US network!
Thanks!
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Hope so. Or even to fix the Gtalk video calling so we can use the front camera.
Skype video calling is WAY WAY WAY overdue. I know it not the fault of anyone here though.
Screw Skype. If they don't want to cater to Android users, I don't want to use them either.
When posts talk about skype and android being a no go , is it the general skype app or does this take into account
the skype on three app.The three one works just fine with a three sim card in.
Edit. Sorry bout this post, must have been half asleep last night, the word video didn't register in my brain as being the actual post subject, I just saw skype.
Has anyone tried Qik? Skype purchased it recently and my bet is we'll see the two combined before long.
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Screw Skype. If they don't want to cater to Android users, I don't want to use them either.
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What do you mean they don't cater for Android ?? Video call support is nice to have, but for most users (including me) voice call support is enough; except for few GUI bugs they have done a pretty decent job with Android Skype app, far better than what Nimbuzz or Fring ever did for Skype voice. Besides, only iOS has video support, that too was added late last year. IMO they will eventually add video support.
I don't understand why they haven't added it to the Android app yet.
I once thought it was because of missing front-camera API's that Google only recently introduced in Gingerbread, but that can't be the reason, since there are a lot of other apps that allow video-calling and work on Froyo.
I wouldn't bother with Skype anyway, were it not for the sheer number of users and the presence on virtually all platforms.
People are begging for a true multiplattform app that allows videocalling to any device (not only iPhone to Mac or Android to GMail).
And since a lot of people use Skype, it's just the easiest way to go (until Facebook introduces video-calling, whicht won't take too long I'm guessing).
Anyway, enough of this, I hope somebody can modify the mentioned app and make it work on our SGS.
Yahoo messenger supports video calls if you guys really want video support between a PC and Andoid/iOS.
Some ppl have already tried to get it working on other phones here. But looks like they have given up on it.
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Has anyone tried Qik? Skype purchased it recently and my bet is we'll see the two combined before long.
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I saw the post on the skype blog, under android, downloaded it but havent yet called anyone, as i have no friends on it lol.
I thought id be able to use my old skype account but one is required to make a new Qik account. Seems like a quick registration process though.
Live iPhone-to-Android video chat
"The following devices support VGA quality resolution during Video Chat over Wi-Fi: Samsung Galaxy Tab, Samsung Galaxy Player, Samsung Galaxy S, and Telus Samsung Galaxy S Fascinate 4G"
I hope SGS can run this
I did search through this forum with permutations such as 'text from pc,' 'pc texting,' etc., to no luck.
Is it possible to use your PC to initialize and read texts on a WP8 device? With Mightytext it just ran as a background service on Android and would use an OAuth token to forward your texts through their site. That was useful due to the fact I didn't have to plug my Nexus directly to a PC... that being said, even a wired solution would be fantastic. I haven't found anything online, but I don't know if I'm search 'correctly,' since other (Android) solutions will pop up first.
Any ideas?
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I did search through this forum with permutations such as 'text from pc,' 'pc texting,' etc., to no luck.
Is it possible to use your PC to initialize and read texts on a WP8 device? With Mightytext it just ran as a background service on Android and would use an OAuth token to forward your texts through their site. That was useful due to the fact I didn't have to plug my Nexus directly to a PC... that being said, even a wired solution would be fantastic. I haven't found anything online, but I don't know if I'm search 'correctly,' since other (Android) solutions will pop up first.
Any ideas?
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I don't think this is possible because of the restrictions of the platform, e.g. the app cannot send text messages on its own, user always has to hit send.
Apps cant read sms as well. if it were possible, we could get more innovative sms apps like those on android.
With the updates coming to WP 8.1, including changing your messaging app, will it now be possible to have something like Mightytext?
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With the updates coming to WP 8.1, including changing your messaging app, will it now be possible to have something like Mightytext?
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this could be possible then , but we don't know till it happens
After some googling I found, that the "Transfer my data" app can transfer SMS only from Lumias and Symbian phones.
Anyone got an idea how to do it?
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After some googling I found, that the "Transfer my data" app can transfer SMS only from Lumias and Symbian phones.
Anyone got an idea how to do it?
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I was wondering the same thing... I'm sure it's possible for the interop-unlocked phones, but that doesn't include Lumia phones (yet)
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I was wondering the same thing... I'm sure it's possible for the interop-unlocked phones, but that doesn't include Lumia phones (yet)
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I think its possible in a very awkward way. The Transfer my data app has special privileges, so it can write SMS to your phone. The problem is, that it can only import from Lumias and Symbian phones.
Now you you make an app for PC/iOS/Android, that fakes this protocol you are set. The problem is to decode this protocol, as I see there are 2 choices:
- Mess with the Symbian emulator. Ive downloaded it, but its kinda hard to get it to use the bluetooth of my laptop. if I manage to do this, I need to sniff the traffic to figure out the protocol.
- Download the Symbian source code and find the part which sends this data. Im now about to try this method, ill post an update if I find anything. If someone i a Symbian+bluetooth expert could help would be great, but I doubt such people are common.
Guys...all you have to do is keep the back up option turned on. Everything else from there is MS's problem. I recently hard reset my wife's 720. All the messages, every single one, comes back the moment you sign in with the SAME ID you have taken a back up with.
Uh, GH0ST, I think you missed an important point... this is from *ANDROID* to WP*, not from WP* to WP8.
@syddd: I'm sure it is, indeed, possible to transfer the messages to the app from an Android phone, but I don't know the wire format. You might get lucky if you search and find an app on the Android side that is compatible with Transfer My Data, though.