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I have a question about custom roms.
I was wondering why when you install a new custom rom. i.e jvt rom. wait till a stable release of version 4.
Every rom i have ever tried. After a while using them maybe two to four weeks.
I start getting lag and it gets worse as time goes on. I flash a fresh rom again. And it flies again.
Is this something with android itself. Or a lack of memory in the phone.
I have a i9000 16GB with a 16GB sd card. Loads of space and plenty of memory left. I have a lot of apps but not a massive amount.
I am using Go Launcher and newest semaphore kernel.
Thanks.
Have you ever used lagfixes like converting your filesystem to ext4? I never had the problem that the phone is lagging more and more the longer I used the same rom.
I haven't had that problem either. Sure you aren't adding too many apps or widgets that are activated at boot or continually work in the background?
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Bonkiebib said:
I haven't had that problem either. Sure you aren't adding too many apps or widgets that are activated at boot or continually work in the background?
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Hi Thanks for reply.
I have ext4 running. I am not sure if it's an app i have installed. But i do get bad lag sometimes.
Gonna try a reinstall with only a few apps for a while see if makes any difference. Thanks for advice.
the size of your free space on your SD card doesnt matter if lagging comes into play. or on your internal sd card.
the RAM usage is where you should look for. if you have to many widgeds running, or apps running in the backround, this is what makes your phone laggy.
look up your task manager, maybe you have not anough free RAM.
KarlDieKrabbe said:
the size of your free space on your SD card doesnt matter if lagging comes into play. or on your internal sd card.
the RAM usage is where you should look for. if you have to many widgeds running, or apps running in the backround, this is what makes your phone laggy.
look up your task manager, maybe you have not anough free RAM.
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Hi Cheers
I have plenty of ram and only a couple of screens. hardly any widgets.
One thing i done was installed a new launcher Balancer and it's made a massive difference so the speed of my phone. It's so much faster and no lag at all.
The i9000 is short on memory and this launcher uses hardly any and is super fast.
Cheers.
Try erasing Dalvick Cache from a custom recovery, should increase app loading.
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Try erasing Dalvick Cache from a custom recovery, should increase app loading.
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Ok Cheers.
Will go it a go.
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Hi all,
I've read hundred of stickies, Q&A's, FAQ's, nd whatever, but I haven't found a similar problem. I's appreciate any help or hint.
When I reboot, many desktop icons (direct links) disappear. Also the wallpaper (I use Ownskin). Widgets and other settings seem to remain unaffected.
This doesn't happen to all icons: e.g, in the 4th desktop screen I have 16 game icons. When I reboot, 8 or 10 of them have disappeared.
I wonder if this is related to having moved some apps to the SD, as if they have somehow lost track of their confg files (sorry if this sounds dumb, newbie Android user).
I am extremely happy with my SGS, but this problem is getting really annoying.
Here's my data
GT-I9000
Official carrier (Spanish Movistar) Froyo.BGJP3 update
Baseband I9000BGJP2
Rooted and lagfixed, carrier bloatware removed.
TIA for your time!
same problem here.. every program i install to sd the icon is gone after reboot.. seems to be some kinda timing thing where when it builds the desktop the sd is in the middle of scanning for media or something.. running stock jpy 2.2.1 with bln kernel.. anyone else..
Your explanation is probably correct. However, I am curious as to why you still need app to SD despite having 2 gb of app space.
that is normal with most apps 2 sd
if you refresh it again, they will show up
dont really need apps to sd with 2 gig you are right.. but apps such as angry birds.. automatically install to sd (ie over 16 meg)..
allgamer. how do you refresh your desktop.. scanning media is not the same.
and it is a pain to manually add icons after every boot.
is this the problem in all froyo.. really needs to be fixed.. there needs to be some kinda delay say 2 minutes after boot before removing icons.. even if it has to show some generic icon till the app is avial.
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Your explanation is probably correct. However, I am curious as to why you still need app to SD despite having 2 gb of app space.
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Yes, that was it! I moved all apps back to memory, and everything is working fine again. You are right, there is no need to put them into the SD, with such an amount of available space. Anyway, I still think this is a bug in Froyo. If it has the option to put apps to SD, it should work correctly.
Thanks!
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Why does my launcher pro plus v0.8.3 often restarts after i done playing a game ???? It happened lately after i moved some apps into my sd card...it really annoys me when i want to change to another game, making me wait for the apps to load...and adding to the ignorance is the apps in the sd card will take about a minute or 2 to finish loading...Any ideas to how to solve this problem ??? Your help is highly appreciated !!!!
Model : Sgs I9000
Rom : Darky v9.5
Kernel : Speedmod k13d
It's not so much of a problem, as it is a feature, of Android itself. It's called Memory Management! And if your game is using a lot of RAM, it is bound to terminate some background applications, in this case, your third party launcher. It might help though, if your launcher app is NOT on sdcard. Also, ensure it is the primary launcher. Beyond that, we can't really mod our phone for more RAM But we can give CM7 a shot...
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It's not so much of a problem, as it is a feature, of Android itself. It's called Memory Management! And if your game is using a lot of RAM, it is bound to terminate some background applications, in this case, your third party launcher. It might help though, if your launcher app is NOT on sdcard. Also, ensure it is the primary launcher. Beyond that, we can't really mod our phone for more RAM But we can give CM7 a shot...
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aww mannn...that sucks...thanks for the info...another question i would like to ask if u done mind...its about the apps on sd card coming out slowly in the apps drawer...is there anyway to speed it up ?? Thank u very much ~
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aww mannn...that sucks...thanks for the info...another question i would like to ask if u done mind...its about the apps on sd card coming out slowly in the apps drawer...is there anyway to speed it up ?? Thank u very much ~
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Try a more light-weight launcher.. ?
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Try a more light-weight launcher.. ?
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hmm....after hearing ur advice...i went n find some other launchers and i stumbled on to "Zeam" which i believe is a light-weight launcher...but the "problem" still remains the same...issit because i got too much apps installed???
On ADW launcher u have the ability to keep it running all the time. Just by turning on the option System Persistent under General Behavior-->System Settings that would avoid the launcher from closing
Try that one
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mrbigcow said:
hmm....after hearing ur advice...i went n find some other launchers and i stumbled on to "Zeam" which i believe is a light-weight launcher...but the "problem" still remains the same...issit because i got too much apps installed???
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It's not about how many apps you have installed. It's more about how many apps are actively running background services...
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On ADW launcher u have the ability to keep it running all the time. Just by turning on the option System Persistent under General Behavior-->System Settings that would avoid the launcher from closing
Try that one
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^^What he said.
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It's not about how many apps you have installed. It's more about how many apps are actively running background services...
^^What he said.
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I have my Advance Task Killer on with frequent n aggressive kill all the time...but anyhow it doesnt matter now....i found a website that resolved the problem..although it still closes some time...
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Every Miui rom I have tried on my many U9000-81 cincinnati bell phones has done this, When the browser or any app stalls, the phone will reboot. Is this a memory overflow causing this? Is it inherent in the phone? I am not a rom developer but this is the reason that I don't like the Miui Rom. First and foremost the phone should be stable. Sorry for the rant.
Sergekarol said:
Every Miui rom I have tried on my many U9000-81 cincinnati bell phones has done this, When the browser or any app stalls, the phone will reboot. Is this a memory overflow causing this? Is it inherent in the phone? I am not a rom developer but this is the reason that I don't like the Miui Rom. First and foremost the phone should be stable. Sorry for the rant.
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memmory is great issue with MIUI, many time its own lauuncher got freez because of memmory issue .... using different launcher over MIUI to overcome memmory isuue...
My phone rarely reboots on MIUI and I'm using go launcher and many background apps are also running, I'd suggest you try V6 by zeppelinrox
My phone always has more then 150mb free ram and find no reboot so far. Can you give me some tips to try to make miui reboot or some app names to try the stability?
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CacingKalung said:
My phone always has more then 150mb free ram and find no reboot so far. Can you give me some tips to try to make miui reboot or some app names to try the stability?
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CK what you use to make free 150 + ram for all time, Now I am using ADW launcher to counter memory problem but not that successful
@paarkhi was using V6 supercharger on RC2 after that forget to use it again ... run it again to check the results ....
V6 rejuvenates the phone in my case, can't say about others
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CK what you use to make free 150 + ram for all time, Now I am using ADW launcher to counter memory problem but not that successful
@paarkhi was using V6 supercharger on RC2 after that forget to use it again ... run it again to check the results ....
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I tried to avoid widgets in each desktop. Widgets will take more cpu and ram for them to work for background and foreground process.
I'm not using any additional tweak other than default rom tweak. I'm using ssLauncher and no widget in every desktop, that's make always 150+ free ram. This launcher is more smooth and light than miui default launcher and quite beautiful even without widget. Maybe not everyone comfortable with this launcher but this is what I looked for from long time ago, paper curl effect desktop change.
For More free RAM, you Guy's should try "RAM Manager" App. you can easily get more than +200 free MB of RAM. Max i got was around 260MB on my CM7.2, I have screen on my phone, i can't show you guy's because my Phone is stolen
Here is the Market link :- CLICK HERE
Free version should be ok because "Balance" Profile work's best for our device & you should run this app in a every while to Boost your RAM...!!
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For More free RAM, you Guy's should try "RAM Manager" App. you can easily get more than +200 free MB of RAM. Max i got was around 260MB on my CM7.2, I have screen on my phone, i can't show you guy's because my Phone is stolen
Here is the Market link :- CLICK HERE
Free version should be ok because "Balance" Profile work's best for our device & you should run this app in a every while to Boost your RAM...!!
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Well unless an app like firefox has a memory leak there should be no issue with memory. And if it does have a memory leak bad enough to crash the OS, a memory manager will not have enough ram to run under that circumstance either. But why don't I have an issue like that with Cyanogenmod?
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But why don't I have an issue like that with Cyanogenmod?
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Because cm is light on memory
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Well unless an app like firefox has a memory leak there should be no issue with memory. And if it does have a memory leak bad enough to crash the OS, a memory manager will not have enough ram to run under that circumstance either. But why don't I have an issue like that with Cyanogenmod?
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You remind me with firefox. I stop using firefox several months ago because of memory leak of this app, make the OS reboot even I regularly update the app, but not remember what rom I was used. Since that time I never use firefox again, opera mobile take the place.
Normally the ram manager should not crash even with the memory leak of some apps, it should kill them when the memory reach the minimum free size limitation as we configure in minfree. From what you said, may be the configuration of this minfree will help the memory manager to breath a little deeper.
I think we should give this four values not to low in minfree:
- FOREGROUND_APP
- VISIBLE_APP
- SECONDARY_SERVER
- EMPTY_APP
But will decrease the chance to switch to other task, it will start over from the beginning for some apps.
Well... that what I thought.
I've to consider this for my future rom ports. But I hasn't found this issue in my current rom. I 'll try to install firefox and open many site on tabs.
Edited: Confirmed.... after using firefox with several webs on tabs opened, it got rebooted. But no reboot if using opera mobile.
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Because cm is light on memory
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Makes sense. I read above that someone tries to keep 150 mb free and I have 771 mb free with my CM7 rom that I am using. Lots of free memory available.
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Makes sense. I read above that someone tries to keep 150 mb free and I have 771 mb free with my CM7 rom that I am using. Lots of free memory available.
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Our device ram only has 512mb. I think that was not free ram, that must be free internal nvm memory . I have 630mb free internal memory.
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Makes sense. I read above that someone tries to keep 150 mb free and I have 771 mb free with my CM7 rom that I am using. Lots of free memory available.
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Ram and internal memory is different, what you are saying is internal memory and as CK said we only have 512mb but 352 mb shown
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Makes sense. I read above that someone tries to keep 150 mb free and I have 771 mb free with my CM7 rom that I am using. Lots of free memory available.
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He he he
Its a good joke bro. ...... person above mentioning 150 mb speaking about ram and you are speaking about internal memory. ..its 700 + for me too. ....
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CacingKalung said:
You remind me with firefox. I stop using firefox several months ago because of memory leak of this app, make the OS reboot even I regularly update the app, but not remember what rom I was used. Since that time I never use firefox again, opera mobile take the place.
Normally the ram manager should not crash even with the memory leak of some apps, it should kill them when the memory reach the minimum free size limitation as we configure in minfree. From what you said, may be the configuration of this minfree will help the memory manager to breath a little deeper.
I think we should give this four values not to low in minfree:
- FOREGROUND_APP
- VISIBLE_APP
- SECONDARY_SERVER
- EMPTY_APP
But will decrease the chance to switch to other task, it will start over from the beginning for some apps.
Well... that what I thought.
I've to consider this for my future rom ports. But I hasn't found this issue in my current rom. I 'll try to install firefox and open many site on tabs.
Edited: Confirmed.... after using firefox with several webs on tabs opened, it got rebooted. But no reboot if using opera mobile.
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What rom is this with?
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He he he
Its a good joke bro. ...... person above mentioning 150 mb speaking about ram and you are speaking about internal memory. ..its 700 + for me too. ....
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Duh I knew something sounded funny.
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Ram and internal memory is different, what you are saying is internal memory and as CK said we only have 512mb but 352 mb shown
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OK So right now my phone has 104 avail out of 351. One tab opened in firefox now 97/351 5 tabs 102/351 6 tabs 98/351. Not seeing that Firefox is causing problems with CM7. This only happens with Miui as far as I can tell.
Is the problem With Firefox or Miui? Do other programs cause the same problem with Miui? Not Opera obviously. I personally love the look of Miui but reliability is key with me. I hate reboot problems.
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Is the problem With Firefox or Miui? Do other programs cause the same problem with Miui? Not Opera obviously. I personally love the look of Miui but reliability is key with me. I hate reboot problems.
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Problem is with launcher of MIUI, its really a RAM eater ......
over MIUI you can try other launcher and will see the difference
was using AWD an go on MIUI from some days really want to say never rebooted from then......
Also constantly getting RAM above 150 MB ....
AWD is preferred choice to get more while go with lots of customization option.
Also try V6 supercharger ....
From what i've read seems like a regualr problem, Just picked the phone myself, But when playing things like Temple Run 2, Candy Crush & Tapped out, the phone just cuts out.
Problem has happened with Stock ROM, and on CM 10.1.
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Sometimes apps can close on their own if Android is running out of free memory. Check to see how many processes you have running and free up some memory before you start the game by closing running apps . There are so many memory cleaner & app manager apps but the best I have found is a very basic app called fmr memory cleaner and then I use SystemCleanup by inteks which is the best cache cleaner out of so many that I've tried. So if this is the reason your apps are closing this should fix the problem.
U shud try a kernel with no ram hack
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I dont mean the apps jsut close, I mean the phone just dieds.
Flat out dead. have to pull the battery and try again.
Even if im running only that game.
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I dont mean the apps jsut close, I mean the phone just dieds.
Flat out dead. have to pull the battery and try again.
Even if im running only that game.
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I use GO Task Manager to clean up my RAM memory. They have a nice little widget which shows the percentages of RAM in use. Click the button (might have to click it 2 times every once in a while) and you'll see the percentage go down. This might help clear up some RAM for your games.
If this doesn't help, try reinstalling the ROM, preferably with a full whipe (remember to back up your data, just in case).
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From what i've read seems like a regualr problem, Just picked the phone myself, But when playing things like Temple Run 2, Candy Crush & Tapped out, the phone just cuts out.
Problem has happened with Stock ROM, and on CM 10.1.
What am I best doing?
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i guess u need some clocking try kowalski kernel
Having problems with my phone a good few months after I updated to L. After initial problems I wiped the cache after update and it made a great difference and behaved nicely.
But now it seems to have gotten very sluggish and a cache wipe makes only a very short term difference (maybe a few days to a week). It seems especially sluggish responding to Home button, with the icons for phone, SMS etc. sometimes taking up a good 10s, maybe even more, to appear.
I have 1.36GB storage free and c.283MB of RAM free currently.
Any ideas or any apps that can help diagnose?
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Having problems with my phone a good few months after I updated to L. After initial problems I wiped the cache after update and it made a great difference and behaved nicely.
But now it seems to have gotten very sluggish and a cache wipe makes only a very short term difference (maybe a few days to a week). It seems especially sluggish responding to Home button, with the icons for phone, SMS etc. sometimes taking up a good 10s, maybe even more, to appear.
I have 1.36GB storage free and c.283MB of RAM free currently.
Any ideas or any apps that can help diagnose?
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Try to install a custom rom
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Try to install a custom rom
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Thanks but I'm not going to be doing that....any ideas for helping with stock?
It could be a RAM problem. If you have root try greenifying some apps, and perhaps deativate Google Now or always listening options. Try also other launcher, like Nova Launcher...
5.0.2 has some weird RAM leak
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Thanks but I'm not going to be doing that....any ideas for helping with stock?
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Try factory reset or reinstall stock but there is no reason to not install a custom rom which is much more better than stock
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Try factory reset or reinstall stock but there is no reason to not install a custom rom which is much more better than stock
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Some apps don't work with root. For example Banking apps. So there are at least 1 reason to not install a custom ROM.
Get rid of Xposed, Facebook and Facebook messenger. Use the mobile version of them.
See if there's too many apps running in background. You barelly have 1.5 GB of free space, so i assume you've plenty of apps installed. Also try to Uninstall Updates and Disable some of them under Settings > Application. You can reclaim some space and get rid of bloat.