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Trying to be charitable and cautious, I'm trying to back up my EFS folder before I go messing around and it is consistently failing. I'm using:
SGS Tools Vz 0.5.7
Busy Box Vz1.17.2
On my previous captivate this works just fine. Now I get
"could not create backup folder /sdcard/SGSToolbox/backup (date string)" and then the bluebox saying creating backup. This never goes away and to clear I have to reboot.
Any helpful hints?
I tried to download the latest and greatest SGS Tools but Google knows I have it installed and won't let me get the newest one. Haven't figure out how to get around that unless I just have to un-install my current one.
Rooted 2.2, KB2, running existz KB1 kernel.
Knowing there are no successful backups... just successful restores.
If you're willing to use your computer and can get the Android SDK and ADB going, just get into a command prompt in the ADB directory and type "adb pull /efs". That will back it up to your computer.
Or you could open a file explorer and copy the directory from there to your sd card
You could use an app called nitrality
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Try to update your su binary, the simpliest way is use Root Explorer to backup whatever u want
Well just to be daring, I tried to install the ADB tools. Had to install the Java development software first. After I installed what I thought was the ADB suite, I can't seem to find the place to type in commands, dumb as that sounds. I may not have gotten the right package. Going to tinker with it though.
My SU is up to date.
I can see the folder with Super Manager so I guess I'll just copy with that. Interesting though I can't see anything in the /efs directory. Probably just something else I don't understand.
Still curious though as to why SGS Tools is failing... part of my nature.
Thanks to all that replied.
Make a note of where adb is installed (e.g. c:\users\person\Android-sdk-windows\platform-tools). Then hit the windows key and R, and type cmd. Once in the prompt, type CD (directory from before, no parentheses) and hit enter. From there, type your adb commands.
Ahhhh.... I get it. Was expecting something a bit more elegant. Gotta love DOS commands.
Well..there are a couple more elegant ways to do it.
Open up a new note in NotePad, just type:
Cmd
Exit
And save, but instead of a .txt file extension save it as a .bat, now drop that into your adb directoty, then just double click on that to open a prompt in that directory, so you don't have to do the cd command every time.
Or..the most elegant way is to add adb to your environmental variables so you can enter adb commands from anywhere
That's a good solution. I've got a set of files put into my C:\Users\(my username) folder called "adb", "adbr" (adb reboot), "adbrd" (adb reboot download), and "adbrr" (adb reboot recovery).
Each of these is a .bat file with a version of this text in it:
@ echo off
cd "C:\Users\(me)\Other\tools\android-sdk-windows\platform-tools"
adb reboot
That way, all I have to do is hit Win-R and type one of those file names and it does that command for me. Or, I can type cmd, then adb, and automatically be where adb is installed without cd'ing through a long file list.
My suggestion is Root Explorer. I was able to backup the EFS directory without problems also create a .tar file.
I used root explorer to do my backups, another option is the explorer inside the rom tollbox aplication its also very good
Now I have another adb question...
First off, now I'm just trying to learn and get better. I've built my bat files and I can get adb working. Thanks to those that helped with that. When I tried to pull the /efs folder it said there was no device recognized. I was in "mass storage" mode at the time.
Whenever I've seen people talk about using adb, I don't recall anything being said about if it should be in Download, debug or what. One of those assumed knowledge things.
So what do I have to do to the phone to let adb recognize it?
gnawing on the bone....
I'm also thinking of pulling a logcat or something when SGS tools fails... just to see. That's my next step.
Enable usb debugging in settings> applications> development
SGS Toolbox doesn't work with efs backups. Are there easier ways to do the backup?
Adb or root explorer.
I did both... just to say I did it and finally got adb working.
***Root method for .621 update***
THIS IS FOR USERS WITH THE .621 UPDATE ONLY. IF YOU HAVE NOT UPDATED DO NOT USE THIS METHOD.
*****DO NOT USE WINDOWS*****DO NOT USE RSDLITE*****
Instructs are made by Skelente
1.) Download the latest Ubuntu iso for your system. Most processors these days are 64 bit, but if you're running on an older computer or do not know if you have a 32 or 64 bit processor I'd recommend doing 32 bit just to be safe (64 bit processors can run both 32 and 64 bit distributions, but 32 bit systems cannot run 64 bit distributions.) Side note: you can download other distributions, but if you do you will not be able to create the persistent drive using the USB method. It should also be noted that some older systems cannot boot from USB, most newer systems (post 2000/2001 IIRC) can boot from USB, however you should consult Google to verify for your system.
2.) Burn the iso:
2.a If you have a cd burner and blank disc, this is the easiest method but, again, you will not have a persistent drive you will just have a Live CD. Use an iso burner to burn to cd, then skip to step 3a.
2.b If you do not have a burner, a blank disc (or don't feel like wasting a DVD disc) but have a free USB drive (with at least 2 GB of memory, bit overkill but it has to be big enough to hold the iso + changes + the persistent "drive") then I recommend downloading either unetbootin or universal USB installer. Go to either web site and follow their instructions. If you use Ubuntu, you'll have the option of creating a persistent drive, which is basically a fake-partition that allows you to save files to when you reboot Linux after running this Live USB. I would recommend using a persistent size of at least 200 mb so we can save the SBF file and sbf_flash. If you created a persistent drive go to step 4. If you opted out of this, skip to step 4.
3.a So you have a Live CD now. If you have a spare flash drive, load up the 604 SBF and sbf_flash. Either way, you'll need to proceed to booting into linux, go to step 4.
3.b Once the respective application has finished, copy the SBF and sbf_flash file to the persistent drive listed in windows.
4. Now we need to boot from your Live image. Restart your computer. When your computer is booting up it should give you two options, "Enter BIOS" and "Select Boot Order" or similar. For my Lenovo Laptop, I can hit F12 to change the boot order, and from there I can select my USB port and it'll boot from there. If you do not see a boot order option, you will need to go into your bios and change the boot order manually. Again, you will need consult Google for this as the menu selections vary by system. It really isn't that hard to figure out if you go through the menus, but I strongly, strongly, strongly recommend and encourage you to google your motherboard's manual to verify what you need to change if you don't know what you are doing. You are responsible for any changes you make on your system. Your BIOS is crucial for your system to function properly. Once you have found where to change your boot order, select the respective drive (USB, or your CD/DVD drive). These will be listed by the manufacture name (so SamsungXXXX for a Samsung drive or PNYXXXX if you're using a PNY usb stick.)
5. When Ubuntu boots up, it'll give you an option to run "Live" from the CD/USB. Select this option. Installing to your hard drive could mess up your current OS install, and I'm not going to get into partitioning here. Once you've gotten into Ubuntu, select "Dash Home" in the upper left hand corner, and then type terminal in the search box. Click terminal, then open it up.
6. Now you'll need to get to where ever you have the SBF and sbf_flash stored through the terminal. If you chose to use the boot cd, and did not have an available flash drive, you will need to download the SBF from here, as well as sbf_flash and then extract them to the same folder. The default is "Downloads" and I recommend just extracting them to that directory for simplicity.
6.a If you had to download the SBF/sbf_flash, getting there through terminal is rather easy. All you'll need to do is type these commands into the terminal:
cd Downloads
chmod +x sbf_flash
./sbf_flash mb809-2.3.5.sbf
And then let the program do it's work. When it's done, go to step 7.
6.b If you already copied the required files to a USB drive, we need to get there through terminal. Type these commands:
cd /
cd /media/
ls (This command will list all the drives connected to your system, cdrom, usb, etc. If you used the Universal USB installer it will list the USB drive as "PENDRIVE", I'm not sure what the default is for Unetbootin but you should be able to figure it out and if you just used a spare device it could be completely random.)
cd drivename (obvioiusly this will vary based on the USB method, for me its "cd PENDRIVE"
If your files were just on the main drive, you don't need to do anything else but the following commands. If you put them in another folder, you will need to do "cd foldername" without the quotes obviously. When you're in the directory with both the SBF and sbf_flash you will need to do these commands (again, ignoring the '-'):
chmod +x sbf_flash
./sbf_flash mb809-2.3.5.sbf
And then let the program do it's work. When it's done, go to step 7.
7.) After sbf_flash is done, you'll need to restart your computer. Its recommended you remove your boot media (cd or usb drive) so that Windows can boot normally. If you changed the boot order in bios you will need to change it back to what it was before, otherwise whenever you have a CD/USB stick plugged in your computer will automatically try to boot from it, and get pissy if it can't boot from the media.
8.) Once you're back in windows you'll need to run the zergrushv4 root method. From there you can do whatever you want. You still cannot SBF to previous versions (602 or 605) and you cannot run Froyo roms.
Downloads:
sbf_flash
SBF File & root tools
*HELP*
If you flashed with RSD Lite and have no data here is your options...
Flash stock .621 sbf and...
Switch devices on your account to reactivate the data
or
Call verizon to have them reporvision your data...
Once you are on the milestone system you can flash a custom rom.
You must SBF in Linux using sbf_flash, otherwise .604's radio will flash over .621's and your phone will no longer be able to take or place phone calls.
Edit: It may just be data, instead of phone capabilities. But still, flashing in Linux is much easier than having to spend time with Verizon's incompetent phone operators.
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If you SBF'd using RSD Lite, you flashed the 605 baseband over the 621. I didn't think this would mess up texts/phone calls but just your data connection, but correct me if I'm wrong I'm just going from memory (I had a dx2, just been watching the threads.) This was a big problem for the people over at rootz and they had a few different tactics on how to solve it. Some were able to call VZW and ask the tech support to "re-provision their data" although that was with mixed results (it depended who ya got on the phone, some people had no luck and other people had their data start back up no problems.) You would need to sbf back to 621 and call from a separate phone, however. Another user (skreelink) theorized that it was merely the AUTH code that was being messed up, and suggested that (for those with a secondary smart phone) you just go onto VZW.com, switch out phones for your number, wait 15 minutes, then go back to the website and switch back to your DX. I'm not sure if anyone has had any success with the latter but I know the former worked for a handful of people (with others getting tech support who had no idea what they were talking about.) If you call and don't get someone knowledgeable, I'd just cross your fingers and call back another time and hope you get someone different.
link not working
anyone have updated link that works to download this?
yea i learned about the radio the hard way, but i found a quick fix... maybe...
If you flashed with windows and now cant get data if you have a old smartphone that is compatible with you plan just go online and switch devices and then switch them back. Saves from having to call verizon But some people may not have a extra
I am probably one of those people who will also need to use this alternative root method but I have a question -
I have been recently acquainted to this dilemma on my "new" Droid X. I mistakenly started downloading the .621 update on my Droid X . I quickly realized what was happening and pulled the battery before the download was complete. (data disabled on phone) . I turned off my router. I reinstalled the battery and turned off all of the data on the phone. I tried clearing the cache but get a message the triangle that it will try to download it again. I pulled the battery and do not plan on powering up the phone with any data connection until I can get some clarification on what to do . The phone has little value to me if it can't be rooted . Is there anyway to stop the train at this point and go back to .605 ( i believe that was the previous one) . - Thanks
bamx2 said:
I am probably one of those people who will also need to use this alternative root method but I have question -
I have been recently acquainted to this dilemma on my "new" Droid X. I mistakenly started the downloading the .621 update on my Droid X . I quickly realized what was happening and pulled the battery before the download was complete. (data disabled on phone) . I turned of my router. I reinstalled the battery and turned off all of the data on the phone. I tried clearing the cache but get a message the triangle that it will try to download it again. I pulled the battery and do not plan on powering up the phone with any data connection until I can get some clarification on what to do . The phone has little value to me if it can't be rooted . Is there anyway to stop the train at this point and go back to .605 ( i believe that was the previous one) . - Thanks
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If you disabled the download you are still on .605.
Turn your phone on, quickly root it with Pete's Motorola Root Tools, install Titanium Backup and freeze the "2.3.3 Updater" application.
Afterwards, reboot your phone and you should be golden.
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nfazzdar - Thanks for the reply . I did a factory reset and that got rid of the yellow triangle. I then rooted as you suggested and installed TiBu . I really is too bad that M and V are pullin this cr#p .
I am going to update the post and host the files. There is also some extra stuff i will put up for download.
For people who don't want to pay for Titanium Backup to have the freeze feature, use a free app called gemini app manager.
Good to know. I think that I will also install OTA Rootkeeper as well.
deboyz1014 said:
For people who don't want to pay for Titanium Backup to have the freeze feature, use a free app called gemini app manager.
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using linux mint and have a ?
I've followed everything, I believe, but when I run the commands in linux everything runs then it says "reboot into bootloader" and just sits there. I've tried doing it in bootloader and get a message 'waiting on phone:failed Are you root? Can someone steer me in the right direction I gotta get this phone on another ROM. Thanks in advance.
BRANDENDEUCE said:
I've followed everything, I believe, but when I run the commands in linux everything runs then it says "reboot into bootloader" and just sits there. I've tried doing it in bootloader and get a message 'waiting on phone:failed Are you root? Can someone steer me in the right direction I gotta get this phone on another ROM. Thanks in advance.
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Exactly the same problem here too.
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landonotis said:
Exactly the same problem here too.
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You need to either:
Code:
sudo su
./sbf_flash
or
Code:
sudo ./sbf_flash
Note: if using
Code:
sudo su
be sure that the terminal shows a "#" instead of a "$" after you input the command. This shows that you are root.
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infazzdar said:
You need to either:
Code:
sudo su
./sbf_flash
or
Code:
sudo ./sbf_flash
Note: if using
Code:
sudo su
be sure that the terminal shows a "#" instead of a "$" after you input the command. This shows that you are root.
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When exactly do we need to input the code? I am assuming this is in terminal on linux?
BRANDENDEUCE said:
When exactly do we need to input the code? I am assuming this is in terminal on linux?
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Sorry for not specifying, but you assume correctly.
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What roms can we use now?
Now that we have root and su on the droid x/milestone what roms are we able to flash? I know they can't be froyo based but do they now have to be related to the milestone roms, droid x, or both? I've tried a few and it's always an abort so I'm just needing some direction here...
BRANDENDEUCE said:
Now that we have root and su on the droid x/milestone what roms are we able to flash? I know they can't be froyo based but do they now have to be related to the milestone roms, droid x, or both? I've tried a few and it's always an abort so I'm just needing some direction here...
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I believe this thread will be of help to you. =D
http://rootzwiki.com/index.php?/topic/21337-[ROMS]-Multi-ROM-Thread---Blur-Based-ROMs-for-those-on-.621/.604!
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This worked great.
Any cwm kernels are we able to use?
Just wondering if we can flash custom kernels since we can do roms? If so any help would be appreciated.
editi guess sdcard is incorrect/confusing for my situation, it's the entire system up to root folders is stuck in a read-only type state.
I didn't really see anything that fits my current problem (sorry if there is an answer somewhere buried in here)
So to start off with info, I installed Android on the TP back in February for my fiancée just for the basics of email, videoplayer, comic reader, internet browsing. Nothing too extravagant, just something with more to offer than webos.
I never did any updates on it because it worked perfectly fine for what it was being used on.
I've changed out the video selection many times as she watches through the shows with no problems.
Now I go to change the files and I delete them, add the new stuff, all seems fine. Then I unmount it and everything I deleted is back and everything I added is gone. I've uninstalled apps and they come back, I've done updates to apps and they revert back to before the update.
I've gone into CMW and done the wipes and even formatted sdcard, cache, etc. Nothing works. Even mounting USB in CWM to add files gives the same result of them disappearing right after it is unmounted.
I've tried ACMEUnistaller but it doesn't work. I saw something flash by the screen about something failing, but it goes too fast to even really see what it's about.
Sorry this is so long. I appreciate any insight!
Kernel
2.6.35-palm-tenderloin
[email protected]ost #12
CyanogenMod version:
9.0.0-RC0-Touchpad-alpha2
Build Date
Mon, Feb 20 13:59:21 CST 2012
Build Number
IML74K
plasticsoldier said:
I didn't really see anything that fits my current problem (sorry if there is an answer somewhere buried in here)
So to start off with info, I installed Android on the TP back in February for my fiancée just for the basics of email, videoplayer, comic reader, internet browsing. Nothing too extravagant, just something with more to offer than webos.
I never did any updates on it because it worked perfectly fine for what it was being used on.
I've changed out the video selection many times as she watches through the shows with no problems.
Now I go to change the files and I delete them, add the new stuff, all seems fine. Then I unmount it and everything I deleted is back and everything I added is gone. I've uninstalled apps and they come back, I've done updates to apps and they revert back to before the update.
I've gone into CMW and done the wipes and even formatted sdcard, cache, etc. Nothing works. Even mounting USB in CWM to add files gives the same result of them disappearing right after it is unmounted.
I've tried ACMEUnistaller but it doesn't work. I saw something flash by the screen about something failing, but it goes too fast to even really see what it's about.
Sorry this is so long. I appreciate any insight!
Kernel
2.6.35-palm-tenderloin
[email protected] #12
CyanogenMod version:
9.0.0-RC0-Touchpad-alpha2
Build Date
Mon, Feb 20 13:59:21 CST 2012
Build Number
IML74K
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I've run across this 3 times with TPs I work on....
1st one had to be sent back to HP because somehow internal memory was damaged and got locked in some some of read only mode
2nd one I saw, I went into webOS, installed the internalz app, mounted the TP to the computer, then added and erased some files and from then on all was good in both webOS and Android
3rd and 4th (same customer) had to be sent in to HP
Now let me mention I live in Costa Rica so all these have been exposed to several scans at airport security checkpoints. I mention this because I haven't seen anything close to a read only problem with the TPs in the USA
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thank you so much for the info. Unfortunately Internalz didn't want to help the items stay deleted either. The stuck in read-only type mode is very weird.
I'm pretty sure I am 3 weeks out of the 1-year warranty on it, plus I am unable to remove android from it to even trick them that it just doesn't work.
I guess I'll try webos doctor and see if that can get it going.
edit: webos doctor not working, even with the closing it at 8-12% tricks and doing the lvm.static..... stuff... 'cause it of course doesn't see to actually delete anything... i'll have to double check tomorrow when i bought it, pretty sure it's over the year and since it turns on and has android kinda screwed
plasticsoldier said:
thank you so much for the info. Unfortunately Internalz didn't want to help the items stay deleted either. The stuck in read-only type mode is very weird.
I'm pretty sure I am 3 weeks out of the 1-year warranty on it, plus I am unable to remove android from it to even trick them that it just doesn't work.
I guess I'll try webos doctor and see if that can get it going.
edit: webos doctor not working, even with the closing it at 8-12% tricks and doing the lvm.static..... stuff... 'cause it of course doesn't see to actually delete anything... i'll have to double check tomorrow when i bought it, pretty sure it's over the year and since it turns on and has android kinda screwed
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I would suggest trying to restore down to WebOS 3.0. In that procedure you literally wipe EVERYTHING on the internal partitions in novaterm and start from absolute scratch. Therefore, if it a software issue you could solve the problem. However, if it is a hardware issue, you'd be kinda screwed.
Yeah, none of the methods I've ended up finding about this problem or other bricked problems are working at all.
i checked at work when i bought it, which of course the 11th was the year mark... but I do have android installed so even if i can get any chance of them honouring it so close they'll probably be like "oh you have android, that'll be $$$ for us to do anything. thanks!"
So I guess I now I have a paperweight with some features.
cdzo72 said:
I've run across this 3 times with TPs I work on....
1st one had to be sent back to HP because somehow internal memory was damaged and got locked in some some of read only mode
2nd one I saw, I went into webOS, installed the internalz app, mounted the TP to the computer, then added and erased some files and from then on all was good in both webOS and Android
3rd and 4th (same customer) had to be sent in to HP
Now let me mention I live in Costa Rica so all these have been exposed to several scans at airport security checkpoints. I mention this because I haven't seen anything close to a read only problem with the TPs in the USA
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When you got the tablets back had they been fixed or were they refurbs ? Did HP say anything about Android still being on it?
There is a thread in the General forum about how to restore and downgrade. Have you tried that thread ? It is usually a great way to try and get that last restore before sending it back to HP.
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how are you adding and deleting files when in android? which version of android do you have installed? have you tried different rom versions? have you tried moving and/or deleting files over adb? are you using windows or linux on your computer that youre connecting the touchpad to? it doesnt make sense that the sdcard would be set to read only. is it only certain folders that you cant modify the contents of, or is it the entire sdcard? are you able to modify contents of folders in the / directory of the device using root file explorer or es file explorer in android? have you run "fix permissions"? Also, running webosdoctor wont wipe the sdcard contents or format the sdcard in any way. its going to change the data in the webos partition and may change some data in the /boot directory.
sstar said:
When you got the tablets back had they been fixed or were they refurbs ? Did HP say anything about Android still being on it?
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They had been fixed but the owners sent them off and had to pay for the whole thing because they had Android on them. When I got my hands on them again I just reinstalled Android. HP charged a little over a hundred dollars for the fix
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cdzo72 said:
They had been fixed but the owners sent them off and had to pay for the whole thing because they had Android on them. When I got my hands on them again I just reinstalled Android. HP charged a little over a hundred dollars for the fix
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Thanks for the answer, this would tend to suggest that the problem is software based corrupted or otherwise. I am trying to find a program that will allow me to read/format the Android partition on my windows computer and will let you know if come up with anything.
Regards
i guess i should change the title slightly.. it's not sdcard, but basically the entire touchpad contents. go to root and delete whatever i want and it doesn't matter. connect it and format with windows and it doesn't actually matter.
haxin said:
how are you adding and deleting files when in android?
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i've added and deleted just by using mtp. i've also deleted the files on the android side with the video player (vplayer) i've installed es file explorer (which after restart is gone) and deleted with that. i've also gone into webos and installed internalz pro and deleted files that way, which it then seems to work until i of course do anything related to restarting.
some of the files i've put on, i've had it recognize briefly. so for the video file, start it, then it gets really choppy/glitchy playing it. so stop it, go back into the vplayer and it's back to the old stuff
which version of android do you have installed? have you tried different rom versions?
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android version 4.0.3. nothing else will install. if i add files while in android, when i boot into cwm they are gone. if i mount usb in cwm and add them they stay briefly but when i try to flash them they fail.
have you tried moving and/or deleting files over adb? are you using windows or linux on your computer that youre connecting the touchpad to?
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i have not tried adb yet, just not as familiar using it properly, i will give it a try though.
i am using windows 7 on my laptop currently. i do have a pc upstairs that i barely use that has vista, but i don't know how that would make a difference to the touchpad
it doesnt make sense that the sdcard would be set to read only. is it only certain folders that you cant modify the contents of, or is it the entire sdcard?
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yeah as i put above i guess saying sdcard was a bit confusing/misleading (my bad, sorry!), i didn't really know what else to call it at the time or how to explain myself properly at first.
are you able to modify contents of folders in the / directory of the device using root file explorer or es file explorer in android?
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i can move/delete/modify anything which has absolutely no effect to the device. i've used es file explorer and gone up to root and deleted everything and the system runs fine. says the system is empty with lots of free space (its the 32gb model) but restart or even go into recovery and everything is once again there.
have you run "fix permissions"?
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i've run it a few times. just acts likes it's working and then says done. i've even gone into the mounts and storage in cwm and formatted sdcard/cache/data/system. does nothing at all in the end of things
Also, running webosdoctor wont wipe the sdcard contents or format the sdcard in any way. its going to change the data in the webos partition and may change some data in the /boot directory.
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it was just something to try to get somewhere right. it never gets past 12%. always fails to reboot.
I am currently letting the battery drain and see if it dying and then being charged will do anything. probably not. but who knows. i talked to a "tech" on the chat support (i never mentioned android) who told me that having preware installed in webos causing it to become corrupt and they "don't knowledge of preware installed devices" exact words. no idea what that means haha don't have knowledge, don't acknowledge...
anyhow. i've not quite given up. i just don't really see it turning out any differently from the previous times. i do appreciate all the feedback and help very much though
ok so heres what I would try. First try flashing a new fresh rom. download one that you want to your computer like cm9 nightly or aokp or whatever you feel like. then boot into CWM recovery connect the touchpad to the computer via usb. then connect to the touchpad with adb. I'm not sure how to do this in windows because it's been so long since I've done it on a windows box, I always use linux.
adb has alot of options, you can move files to and from the device, you can uninstall or install app packages, and more. this way you can adb push the rom .zip to the touchpad's sdcard while youre in cwm recovery. this way you dont have to reboot the touchpad and risk having the file disappear, you can just go to 'install zip from sdcard' and then 'choose zip from sdcard' in cwm recovery after you adb push the rom, you should see it in the folder you pushed it to on the sdcard.
If you arent familiar with how to use adb from the command line or the terminal this might not make alot of sense and i dont know how better to explain it than that. Also yes windows 7 vs windows vista does make a difference there are issues with novacom installing properly, that's why you would have problems running acmeuninstaller or acmeinstaller2. if you look around you should find some videos or how to's that can probably explain it better. Hope this helps.
http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Novacom_with_Windows_7
http://forums.webosnation.com/webos-internals/295881-webos-doctor-12-issue-fixed-5.html
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1426244 is the thread I was talking about - it allows you to access the hard root of the device, repartition it, and start again from scratch. It is what I was suggesting last night, from my tablet when I didn't have the link handy.
ve6ay said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1426244 is the thread I was talking about - it allows you to access the hard root of the device, repartition it, and start again from scratch. It is what I was suggesting last night, from my tablet when I didn't have the link handy.
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Probably the best suggestion yet given that everything else has been tried.
Good luck.
****EDIT****
Before you attempt the step above I have just noticed a difference between between cwm and. TWRP2.2 which I have installed on my Touchpad via goo manager. If I open recovery via goo manager and then select wipe it gives me 4 options cache, davlik, factory reset AND system which i think says will remove your rom . I don't see the forth option available with the regular cwm/clockwork. Just a thought.
All the best with whatever you try next.
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Probably the best suggestion yet given that everything else has been tried.
Good luck.
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this would work, however you have to fix you novacom/novaterm issues on your windows machine before you'll be able to do any of this. the reason acmeuninstaller, acmeinstaller2 arent working is likely because youre on a windows7 64bit box and Palm-sdk, the novacomd.exe, noverm.exe, and javaruntime apps and drivers arent setup right. just make sure you have the proper javaupdates on your computer then you can install preware in webos, preware has some nice tools that will delete the entire android install partitions, one is called 'remove android' and the other is called 'tailor' you run them from within webos. after you do that then in webos you should do a full device reset. you'll find it in the "info" tab under settings in webos. this will delete and reformat the whole /media ,(aka sdcard) partition. so you will lose all the files you have stored on both webos and android. that format will take a long time probably like 30 min or more. after thats done. reboot the hp and run webosdoctor. now i know for sure this will work because ive done it on mine. remember to put the touchpad in developer mode in webos first to install preware. you can do that by typing webos20090606 into the webos search bar and hitting enter. I'll put links from my box.com accou t to everything you need.
https://www.box.com/s/479acdb6ef9c99fc7b92
https://www.box.com/s/1aed4722990aad251570
edit: also I'm not sure if youre on the 16gig 32gig or 64gig pad, the webosdoctor that i linked is for 32gig wifi only US version. if thats not what you have then youll need to get the doctor for for specific touchpad. or you could create a webosmetadoctor but thats a whole nother project.
i have the 32gb version. i assume US and Canadian aren't gonna make a difference
i've tried all those threads. any novacom/novaterm stuff doesn't work, the files won't delete so when trying to recreate they just error saying it already exists.
if the devices is on in androind the adb can find the device although the "Serial" has a bunch of ???? at the end of it. when i go to cwm adb cannot find the device.
in cwm i can mount and add files that way and go back to install zip sdcard but get:
Code:
--Installing /sdcard/aokp_tenderloin_milestone-4.zip
Finding update package...
Opening update package...
E: Can't open /sdcard/aokp_tenderloin_milestone-4.zip
(bad)
Installation aborted
used "remove android" in webos, but then nothing is different after the fact as usual. 'tailor' doesn't seem to exist anymore in preware at least that i can find
not sure if there is anything else I can do at this point
plasticsoldier said:
i have the 32gb version. i assume US and Canadian aren't gonna make a difference
i've tried all those threads. any novacom/novaterm stuff doesn't work, the files won't delete so when trying to recreate they just error saying it already exists.
if the devices is on in androind the adb can find the device although the "Serial" has a bunch of ???? at the end of it. when i go to cwm adb cannot find the device.
in cwm i can mount and add files that way and go back to install zip sdcard but get:
Code:
--Installing /sdcard/aokp_tenderloin_milestone-4.zip
Finding update package...
Opening update package...
E: Can't open /sdcard/aokp_tenderloin_milestone-4.zip
(bad)
Installation aborted
used "remove android" in webos, but then nothing is different after the fact as usual. 'tailor' doesn't seem to exist anymore in preware at least that i can find
not sure if there is anything else I can do at this point
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ok no one will be able to help you fix this issue unless you give complete details of the problems. when you say " novacom/novaterm stuff doesn't work" we cant really help specific error details is what i need. I dont mind helping you fix this but you have to be a little more specific on exactly what,where, and how youre installing and running and mounting apps and directories.
your problem IS fixable but you need to slow down and really do things exactly step by step.
Ok so back to ./adb. now when you boot in to CWM recovery on he touchpad DONT do anything in CWM just plug it into the computer. do not mount it as a usb storage and dont mount or unmount the sd partition LEAVE IT.
you can then use ./adb from the command line or terminal on the computer to move the files to the touchpad' or install apk's uninstall apk's you name it. This will require that you know some linux terminal commands. for example to move a new rom zip to the internal sd card or into any other folder you can use ./adb push command to run a root shell on the android device itself you can use ./adb shell and then change folder and file properties from readonly to rw. this can all be done while the touchpad is patiently waitng in CWM recovery. this way when youre done installing or uninstalling apps from the device and moving flash zips to it, you can disconnect the .adb connection with ./adb disconnect or just type exit from the terminal till it closes. unplug it then you will be able to pick up the touchpad and install zip from the sdcard, keep in mind you dont want to choose 'apply u[date from sdcard' you want to use the 'install zip from sdcard option' you can read up more on how adb works. it is probally the most important part of hacking android.
with that being said. novaterm is the palm webos version of .adb. this is why when you boot into webos recovery to do things like acmeinstaller and acmeuninstaller2 the novaterm novacom and novacomd apps have to be installed correctly on the computer or else you wont be going anywhere fast. some screenshot examples of how it should appear below.
https://www.box.com/s/432e63a83215f00eea6a
https://www.box.com/s/970bc29542a05f98f036
https://www.box.com/s/63c0f656e8354f7f2d6a
https://www.box.com/s/cbe3266467ae8e3ebabe
https://www.box.com/s/005e56a61a178dd17fa4 some better resolution images.
Plasticsoldier said
used "remove android" in webos, but then nothing is different after the fact as usual. 'tailor' doesn't seem to exist anymore in preware at least that i can find
not sure if there is anything else I can do at this point
Yes there is
Firstly tailor does exist, it is a beta and the facility to dl must be enabled.
Read this and scroll down to Enabling beta test feeds and follow the instructions , when you get as far as using the Linux command you CAN copy and paste thank God.
http://en.m.webos-internals.org/wiki/Testing_Feeds?wasRedirected=true . After that reboot into Webos and launch preware. Go into managed feeds as per the instructions in the link above and install Tailor. Reboot again and the app will work. It looks very good actually.
But before attempting to actually use Tailor please read the article I have posted below it is only 7 pages long but will explain how to use Taylor properly as it is a powerful tool.
http://forums.webosnation.com/webos...partition-filesystem-editor-beta-testing.html
I have done all of this , this morning so if you have any problems pm me or ask in this thread.
I sincerely hope that this helps, it should be the answer to your problems.
@haxin: sorry, wasn't trying to be unhelpful when everyone is being helpful to me. I shall be more detailed in future responses. I think i was getting frustrated and had had a busy exhausting day so it didn't help me come across clearly/properly.
OK, so I had preware installed already, so I removed it, went into developer mode, used the linux commands, reinstalled preware, added Tailor.
(i've done this a few times, because I didn't remove the cable after doing the linux commands for preware, then i accidentally hit the wrong buttons and it connected to 'usb drive' mode and wouldn't connect on the pc side and got stuck on the "ow disconnected me properly next time" screen).
So it gives me the following options
USB (media)
Android (system)
Android (cache)
Android (data)
Unused Space
the 'usb media' starts mounted and will mount again if unmounted. If I use 'check filesystem' it'll pass. So then I try 'delete partition' which pretends to delete, then it takes me to the unused partition which is still at 16mb. so i try to use "check filesystem' again and it fails. try repair and it fails as well
I've tried mounting the android parts just to see, they just sit there processing that they are trying to mount. trying to delete or anything else fails as well.
and now after trying things, any of the 'cards' will try to open and just sit there grey. and with my usb cable not plugged in it still is giving me the option to enter usb drive mode. and with this i have to restart and go through the steps again of adding Tailor which is getting tedious.
I restarted, went through the motions to get back to Tailor. trying out resizing just to see how that goes. So far 15%. not sure what will happen when done, but we will see.
This is getting long, so i'll end this part and update on anything and also try to familiarize myself with adb a tad more
Had to factory reset kfhd7 and when I did, it booted up like an android phone. ... Now there's no browser and I can't get play to work. Usb debug is enabled but when I connect to the computer to try and push a browser, my computer doesn't recognize it. I have all the newest drivers installed and just about every program that I can think of (adb, sdk, jdk) What I don't have is a fastboot cable. Any ideas?
Missing my kindle
Edit* So I do have chrome installed but when I open it, I get an error message saying "critical functionality required to run chrome is missing; either your chrome installation is incomplete, or not compatible with this version of android"
Terminal emulator installed too but when I try to open it I get a "terminal emulator has stopped" error.
Super SU installed, works.
No es file explorer
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Ok, so I decided to open cmd just to see if I can recognize my device.... and it did! So how can I fix my kindle if adb is connecting?
Edit#3 adb devices shoes device but when running a command, it says "device offline"....
Edit#4 plugged usb into another port and reloaded drivers = adb connects, device is online. I have tested by pushing an app to the sdcard. My goal now is to be able to push es file explorer to /system/app/ .... or ..... /data/app/ ...... or where ever it will become active for use. (you know what I mean?) I don't know how to change the permissions via adb and push to system folder. I believe I have successfully pushed es file explorer to the /sdcard/ but I have no idea where to go next.
Now what..... ?
How to Install Packages using adb install
Krsmqn said:
Had to factory reset kfhd7 and when I did, it booted up like an android phone. ... Now there's no browser and I can't get play to work. Usb debug is enabled but when I connect to the computer to try and push a browser, my computer doesn't recognize it. I have all the newest drivers installed and just about every program that I can think of (adb, sdk, jdk) What I don't have is a fastboot cable. Any ideas?
Missing my kindle
Edit* So I do have chrome installed but when I open it, I get an error message saying "critical functionality required to run chrome is missing; either your chrome installation is incomplete, or not compatible with this version of android"
Terminal emulator installed too but when I try to open it I get a "terminal emulator has stopped" error.
Super SU installed, works.
No es file explorer
edit#2
Ok, so I decided to open cmd just to see if I can recognize my device.... and it did! So how can I fix my kindle if adb is connecting?
Edit#3 adb devices shoes device but when running a command, it says "device offline"....
Edit#4 plugged usb into another port and reloaded drivers = adb connects, device is online. I have tested by pushing an app to the sdcard. My goal now is to be able to push es file explorer to /system/app/ .... or ..... /data/app/ ...... or where ever it will become active for use. (you know what I mean?) I don't know how to change the permissions via adb and push to system folder. I believe I have successfully pushed es file explorer to the /sdcard/ but I have no idea where to go next.
Now what..... ?
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Krsmqn,
Sorry for the delayed response, we have been real busy the last few days. You may use the
following command to install or reinstall software on the Kindle:
Code:
adb kill-server
adb start-server
adb devices
android update adb
If adb is working move on to install software:
Code:
adb install package-whatever.apk
You need to make sure the .apk software package in in the same directory as adb. If
you can not get the Kindle stable you may need a USB Factory Cable, you may order
one from XDA User SkOrPn just send him a PM with the subject Factory Cable Info Please,
include your ship to country and number of cabled needed. He will respond with a PayPal
Invoice. The cable is about $15 USD and is worth every penny since it allows quick
recovery of your Kindle.
prokennexusa,
I want to thank you for all your help. Unfortunately, my issue was kind of a rare issue. I had deleted some amazon apps that were system apps. I tried your solution time and time again to no avail. I was stumped until I remembered a thread I saw in development.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1886189
I was able to download and unzip the 7.2.3 update version and simply install the apks that I was missing. Then, as far as google play went, I just went into System>Applications>Installed Applications>Appstore (Amazon)> Force stop, clear data & cache. Reinstalled Vendor.apk and then updated. Viola!
The USB notification came back, as well as all the other options in settings. Problem solved. Hope this helps future users.
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Krsmqn said:
prokennexusa,
I want to thank you for all your help. Unfortunately, my issue was kind of a rare issue. I had deleted some amazon apps that were system apps. I tried your solution time and time again to no avail. I was stumped until I remembered a thread I saw in development.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1886189
I was able to download and unzip the 7.2.3 update version and simply install the apks that I was missing. Then, as far as google play went, I just went into System>Applications>Installed Applications>Appstore (Amazon)> Force stop, clear data & cache. Reinstalled Vendor.apk and then updated. Viola!
The USB notification came back, as well as all the other options in settings. Problem solved. Hope this helps future users.
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Krsmqn,
Great post Krsmqn, I am glad to hear your problems are solved! We offer a fresh copy of the /system/app
folder here: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/54456659/app.zip
Anyone who is experiencing odd issues can download this folder and side load it back to the Kindle through
adb or ES File Explorer. Thank you again, I was getting a bit worried.
I don't know what I've done to my KF2. I have successfully rooted the device, and have even been in fastboot for something I tried (can't remember what, just that I was trying to properly root my device). But I have about 14 programs that won't remove off my device (they only show "Add to Favorites" on my device instead of the additional option to remove from device)? I cannot get into ES File Manager and delete them. The .apk's for these files are located in the system folder, and even when I mount root in ES File Manager, I can't delete any of the files in the folder.
I also have a lot of problems with my toolbars randomly flickering on and off. But nothing I've read and tried, except for restoring the device and rerooting it again fixes this problem. I've also looked at a lot of posts that tell me to do a command with the /data/local.prop file. But I don't have this file on my kindle. I've searched for it everywhere using ES File Manager. I do have a /data/default.prop file, however. But I can't use ADB commands on that file either.
So I was advised to get a factory cable so that I can boot into fastboot. But I can use KFFIRSTAIDE to get into that successfully. Can anyone tell me what I've done to my kindle, what programs, and what commands I need in order to fix this problem? I'm not an idiot; I successfully rooted 3 KF2's and a KFHD successfully before this monster of a device came along!
herrenfam said:
I don't know what I've done to my KF2. I have successfully rooted the device, and have even been in fastboot for something I tried (can't remember what, just that I was trying to properly root my device). But I have about 14 programs that won't remove off my device (they only show "Add to Favorites" on my device instead of the additional option to remove from device)? I cannot get into ES File Manager and delete them. The .apk's for these files are located in the system folder, and even when I mount root in ES File Manager, I can't delete any of the files in the folder.
I also have a lot of problems with my toolbars randomly flickering on and off. But nothing I've read and tried, except for restoring the device and rerooting it again fixes this problem. I've also looked at a lot of posts that tell me to do a command with the /data/local.prop file. But I don't have this file on my kindle. I've searched for it everywhere using ES File Manager. I do have a /data/default.prop file, however. But I can't use ADB commands on that file either.
So I was advised to get a factory cable so that I can boot into fastboot. But I can use KFFIRSTAIDE to get into that successfully. Can anyone tell me what I've done to my kindle, what programs, and what commands I need in order to fix this problem? I'm not an idiot; I successfully rooted 3 KF2's and a KFHD successfully before this monster of a device came along!
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Well, if you can reboot into fastboot via KFFA, than no, you don't necessarily need a fastboot cable. Have you tried removing these programs via ADB? If you ADB shell into the device, does the command "su" work? System apps can't be uninstalled the normal way, you have to manually delete them from "/system/app/" yourself. But that's weird that you can't get ES to work. Which version of ES file explorer are you using? I know the new version requires you to not only turn root explorer on, but you have to tap two radial dials to switch it from "/system" from RO (read only) to RW (read writable).
Hope this helped
Ph0enix_216 said:
Well, if you can reboot into fastboot via KFFA, than no, you don't necessarily need a fastboot cable. Have you tried removing these programs via ADB? If you ADB shell into the device, does the command "su" work? System apps can't be uninstalled the normal way, you have to manually delete them from "/system/app/" yourself. But that's weird that you can't get ES to work. Which version of ES file explorer are you using? I know the new version requires you to not only turn root explorer on, but you have to tap two radial dials to switch it from "/system" from RO (read only) to RW (read writable).
Hope this helped
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What command(s) would I use to remove these programs? The only command I know is "ADB SHELL su". I am not an idiot at computer software, but I was absent on the day they handed out the intelligence on DOS commands.
And how would I get rid of the associated program files? Or do I just leave them on the drive?
What I would really like to do is unroot the device (which seemed to screw it up last time I tried it), restore to factory defaults as to erase all this gibberish, and restart from fresh, with a clean slate and then a clean root. Can that be done? How would I accomplish that? Like I said, it seemed that I the problems with the programs not uninstalling started with the restoring of the device, be it by unrooting it or by restoring the device to factory defaults on the kindle.
PS: yes, I can get into SU on ADB on my computer. I just don't know where to go from there. And my ES File Explorer is V. 3.0.9.0. I looked in the settings and could not find a option to change file to RW.
herrenfam said:
What command(s) would I use to remove these programs? The only command I know is "ADB SHELL su". I am not an idiot at computer software, but I was absent on the day they handed out the intelligence on DOS commands.
And how would I get rid of the associated program files? Or do I just leave them on the drive?
What I would really like to do is unroot the device (which seemed to screw it up last time I tried it), restore to factory defaults as to erase all this gibberish, and restart from fresh, with a clean slate and then a clean root. Can that be done? How would I accomplish that? Like I said, it seemed that I the problems with the programs not uninstalling started with the restoring of the device, be it by unrooting it or by restoring the device to factory defaults on the kindle.
PS: yes, I can get into SU on ADB on my computer. I just don't know where to go from there. And my ES File Explorer is V. 3.0.9.0. I looked in the settings and could not find a option to change file to RW.
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The commands to remove bloatware and stuff (in this case, apps) would be:
Code:
adb shell
su
mount /system
rm /system/app/nameofapp1.apk
rm /system/app/nameofapp2.apk
rm /system/app/nameofapp3.apk
reboot
If a clean slate is what you want, then you can use this tool here to flash three stock Kindle partition images (boot.img, recovery.img, and system.img) to your Kindle via fastboot. The images aren't of the latest firmware, but I don't think OTA updates are disabled, so you can just let your Kindle auto update over wi-fi.
If "su" works in the ADB shell, then I guess you are rooted. I don't know what to say from there, except to backup whatever data you can and start fresh.
Ph0enix_216 said:
The commands to remove bloatware and stuff (in this case, apps) would be:
Code:
adb shell
su
mount /system
rm /system/app/nameofapp1.apk
rm /system/app/nameofapp2.apk
rm /system/app/nameofapp3.apk
reboot
If a clean slate is what you want, then you can use this tool here to flash three stock Kindle partition images (boot.img, recovery.img, and system.img) to your Kindle via fastboot. The images aren't of the latest firmware, but I don't think OTA updates are disabled, so you can just let your Kindle auto update over wi-fi.
If "su" works in the ADB shell, then I guess you are rooted. I don't know what to say from there, except to backup whatever data you can and start fresh.
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Thanks a great deal. Where is the program to flash the three stock .img files so I can have a from-the-beginning kindle? I've already got the only thing I need from the device - a list of the third-party apps and where I downloaded them from.
herrenfam said:
Thanks a great deal. Where is the program to flash the three stock .img files so I can have a from-the-beginning kindle? I've already got the only thing I need from the device - a list of the third-party apps and where I downloaded them from.
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...I forgot to post the link, didn't I?
Here it is: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2096888
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