HTC Velocity - HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity

As far as I can tell, the new Telstra HTC Velocity is a Holiday/Vivid/Raider which has to be the most complciated mess off device renames I've seen in a while.
I have the option comming up at my work to go for 1 of three phones.
1. HTC Velocity on Telstra(holiday/vivid/raider)
2. Galaxy Nexus on Telstra
3. Galaxy S II (first version, on telstra)
SO this is addressed to people who own this handset, or a few handsets. DO you think I should go for the Velocity, or one of the others, if so why?
The Velocity has the fastest cpu (telstra version is 1.5Ghtz) and is the only one with LTE, however I'm not the biggest fan of Sense UI and I don't live or work in an LTE zone yet, wont be getting an LTE upgrade here for another 6 months. and the nexus appears to have a higher resolution screen.
Anyway, I'm incomming from a HTC HD2, which is awesome for flashing and such but mine is getting old and overheating so I will be glad to move on, does anyone know my chances of flashing roms/rooting the HTC Velocity easily?

Hey David,
Im currently using the SGS2 and LOVE it, but i do live in a 4G zone, i took home the demo today, and am doing some research on flashing as i am a bit of a nerd/freak when it comes to these things, and use alot of apps that require Root, so without that, its a no go for me... but the speed is PHENOMENAL! amazing, and to be quite honest, even on standard 3G/NextG gets far better coverage and 3G speeds than my galaxy, 10mb/s on the Velocity - on 3G and only 3MB/s on the Galaxy s2... I am cm's away from buying it
Hope this helps and if anyone has any more news, or if you can use Vivid/Raider ROMS on the velocity, as it has the same op sys... and sence... let me know!!!
cheers

So you would say the velocity is much better than the galaxy s ii?
Thank you

Got my HTC Velocity 4G today.
Managed to get boot loader unlocked via HTCDev but device is still S-On
Will try rooting and will update you guys

Yea iirc the HTCDev tool don't give you S-off, it just allows you to flash a new rom.
If you want to flash a new radio you will need S-off.
Keep us updated how you go flashing a new rom, ty.
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Ive had my HTC Vivid on ATT for about a month. Finally decided to go android after 5 years of iPhone use. Anyways, From what I can tell, like you said, the vivid and the velocity are more or less the same phone, just on different carriers. The phone is a solid handset, the battery life is average, its fast and even though I dont live in an area with LTE service, it still rocks on on HSPA+. Great phone, love mine, highly recommend it. As for not liking the Sense UI, if you arent concerned about your warranty, you can always root it and load a custom ROM onto it.

Thanks guys, good info.
Looking forward to seeing how kychan79 does with his, I should get mine in a few days I think I'm sold on the Velocity
I've noticied I can get extended batteries for the "raider" version, 3600mAh sounds boss, I have an extended battery for my HD2 so I'm used to the cover hump.

davidcampbell said:
So you would say the velocity is much better than the galaxy s ii?
Thank you
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I wouldnt say it is 'much' better, but it is better, in terms of speed, yes, but in terms of spec... no... the 1.5ghz is supposedly inferior to the 1.2, and 1.4 dual cores seen in the s2, and new galaxy tablets. However, i am fond of the speed and will be upgrading to an LTE device, and if we can crack the bootloader in these HTC's i will more than likely be upgrading to one
cheers
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davidcampbell said:
Thanks guys, good info.
Looking forward to seeing how kychan79 does with his, I should get mine in a few days I think I'm sold on the Velocity
I've noticied I can get extended batteries for the "raider" version, 3600mAh sounds boss, I have an extended battery for my HD2 so I'm used to the cover hump.
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does the weight go up much with the ext battery??? i am so used to my galaxy s2, (116grams) im scared of the extra weight, i used the Desire HD for a while back in the day.. hated the extra weight... thoughts???

if you hate weight, avoid the extra battery, I prefer my phone to be weighty

davidcampbell said:
SO this is addressed to people who own this handset, or a few handsets. DO you think I should go for the Velocity, or one of the others, if so why?
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I work for an online mobile store, and have used both the Samsung Galaxy S II and the Samsung Galaxy Nexus for an extended period of time. I also bought the HTC Velocity 4G yesterday.
The HTC Velocity 4G is currently the best device out in Australia, if speed is important to you! Not only does the device have 4G, though it also has dual band HSPA+, which makes it faster than most devices on the Next G network. I uploaded a video to YouTube yesterday, showing how much faster the HTC Velocity 4G runs on the Next G network, when compared to the Samsung Galaxy Nexus.
You can search YouTube for 'HTC Velocity 4G dual band HSPA+ test' if you want to watch the video, I am unable to post links, as I am a new user.
There are however three things that disappoint me about the device:
1. The device is a bit heavier than the Samsung Galaxy S II and the Galaxy Nexus
2. The device came with Android 2.3.7, rather than Android 4.0 (Should be released in a month)
3. HTC Sense
The Galaxy Nexus is a great device, it is light, thin and stylish. It also obviously has Ice Cream Sandwich, gets updated directly from Google (depending on where you get the device from), and doesn't have crap like HTC Sense on top of Android. The device however has a darker screen than most devices (not necessarily a bad thing), and the camera is pretty ****ty, though in all fairness, I was comparing it to the camera on the iPhone 4S, which makes all other mobile cameras look bad.
The Samsung Galaxy S II is a great device if you don't want a device as big as the Galaxy Nexus and don't want to spend as much. I also don't mind the software that Samsung puts on top of Android, it is a lot better than HTC Sense.
davidcampbell said:
does anyone know my chances of flashing roms/rooting the HTC Velocity easily?
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This is the reason why I logged onto XDA Developers today, I am wanting to ditch the HTC Sense / Telstra ROM for a good custom ROM, or if at all possible, a clean ICS ROM.

I would have went with the Galaxy Nexus (AOSP and no bloat HELLz YES,)if it wasn't the limited storage. 16GB is easy to fill and i need more if it was 32GB it would have been a done deal for me. Coming from the Galaxy S upgraded to the SII and within 2 days exchanged for the Raider.
SGS ans SGSII not much difference some but not much TouchWiz just plane sucks in my opinion lockscreen is horrible widgets limited. With my SGS i used ADW launcher just to avoid TouchWiz. Sense maybe a resource hog but it meets everything i was looking in a phone that the SII did not provide. with my first SGS i found myself hack and modding it to hell just so i can get it the way i want it to work and installing apps like widget locker etc. The Raider does not lag and i use this think like a mini computer everything is on with auto sync set to every hour. People say the battery is average i beg to differ i think its amazing battery for a 4.5" device. On very heavy days i get 12-14 hours on medium days it has last 2days and low even 3 days.
This is after i rooted and removed bloat, without bloat i would get max 12 hours on low usage. Still running stock, I like hacking/modding but to much trial and error and not enough time, with the Raider i do not need to mod it just to get basic functionality like SMS prompt or change tracks on lockscreen when phone is locked with pin/pass/pattern. It may seem small for others but that was a deal breaker for me. I need the phone locked but still have access to simple things like music and SMS from lockscreen and should not have to purchase apps like widget locker. Another big reason to jump ships was again weather in lockscreen, here up north weather can be very unpredictable so having that on the lockscreen is a great addition for me and it has saved me a few times already.
If i went SGSII first thing i would do is flash CM9 but then again its not really ready and has bugs.

I am getting this phone on Monday, so excited.
Very happy that it is getting ICS by end of Feb / Early March.
See here under the "Software Updates" Tab - http://bit.ly/x3nvyT

Excelllent!! A velocity thread!!
I just got mine yesterday! Love it. I came from an inspire with wcx Rom.. this is on par with how my inspire was... But I know this phone can be twice as good...
I have a few questions...
How Did you unlock boot loader? Did you select vi I'd from the list on htcdev.com?
If I unlock bootloader will I lose my Telstra warranty?
Can it be undone?
If I flash a new Rom can the phone be returned to stock easily enough?
if I flash a new Rom with wcx which is based on at.t... Will I lose my 1800 MHz LTE?
Sorry about all the novice questions...
One last thing.. when I had my inspire with sense 3.5 it seemed to have more features like the arrows in keyboard. And more items in the power menu... What's up with these disappearing?

I'm getting mine on monday
I also ordered an extended battery online (2600mAh) and the HDMI adapter just for funzies, so I'll let you folks know how well they work
If you want a keyboard with arrows, I use "hackers keyboard" off the market which I love, on my current android NAND htc HD2.
Thanks for the info, especially mark david, good stuff, and I didn't know about the dual-band HSDPA+ that certainly sounds lovely as I do not live in a 4G area (yet, they are upgrading jun/jul)
I would phone telstra to get the info direct from them RE: unlocking the bootloader. As for the rest, don't know yet sorry

Manage to Gain perm root and flash custom CWM recovery by following Step 2) of the superguide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1416836
Note that I need to extract the PH39IMG.zip and modify the "android-info.txt" with the below info and repackage it to get it work.
modelid: PH3912000cidnum: TELST001mainver: 2.27.841.6hbootpreupdate:12DelCache:1
I am not sure if I want to flash a custom ROM at this stage but if I do, I ll update you guys again

This thread is reallyt growing, they need an HTC Velocity Section on XDA
Im getting my Velocity Tomorrow
Will crack bootloader tomorrow as soon as i finish work!
Talk soon!

naturalb0rnkiwi said:
This thread is reallyt growing, they need an HTC Velocity Section on XDA
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why? its the same hardware. same phone. hell, my rom is based from the velocity RUU.

Pirateghost said:
why? its the same hardware. same phone. hell, my rom is based from the velocity RUU.
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Just a thought. Shouldn't we be able to use the velocity kernel to get 1.5ghz? Since they're essentially the same device just one is undervolted and one is not?
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kozmikkick said:
Just a thought. Shouldn't we be able to use the velocity kernel to get 1.5ghz? Since they're essentially the same device just one is undervolted and one is not?
Sent from my HTC PH39100 using xda premium
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if you are running my rom, you are running the velocity kernel. its going to take more than just flashing that kernel though. unfortunately, i am not a kernel guru, or i would know what else it would take.

davidcampbell said:
I also ordered an extended battery online (2600mAh) and the HDMI adapter just for funzies, so I'll let you folks know how well they work
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Where did you order the accessories from? I cant find anything for this phone at the moment? Or did you search for "Vivid"

Related

PLanning to replace my hd2 for n1

Planning to get the n1 since I can't stand the winmo interface anymore, its taking to much of my time to get everything working everday, planning to do my first switch to android and thinking about getting the n1 or the desire. Interested to know if theres anything I need to know about the n1 that is a put off. Stuff that annoys users on a day to day basis. I mean no offense to n1 users, just trying to get some info.
Thanks
Cpt.Curry said:
Planning to get the n1 since I can't stand the winmo interface anymore, its taking to much of my time to get everything working everday, planning to do my first switch to android and thinking about getting the n1 or the desire. Interested to know if theres anything I need to know about the n1 that is a put off. Stuff that annoys users on a day to day basis. I mean no offense to n1 users, just trying to get some info.
Thanks
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watch for screen burn-in
that's all.
I have a nexus one, but I recommend that you buy a htc incredible
or wait until the htc incredible evo
Got my N1 since Jan and still lovin it to this day. Only thing I think you'd miss from the switch is the screen size of the HD2. Incredible probably would have a closer feel to the HD2 since it runs sense ui (stock). But you can also have sense on a rooted N1 and a lot more tweaks.
The Nexus is sexier than the Incredible, will get updates sooner than any android phones atm and has more dev support if you decide to root. Only reason why I would probably get the Incredible is coz of the carrier (Verizon) and not the device.
i just talked the girl i've been hanging out with into getting the incredible, but only because she wanted to stay with verizon. i've played with it. i prefer the nexus, personally. i think the nexus one looks better, and it definitely has better dev support, if you wanted to tweak it (unlock the bootloader and root it, then put on custom ROMs).
however, if i was going to be with verizon, i'd take the incredible, for sure.
only thing i don't like about the N1 is the crap coverage i get, but that's a network issue with TMO, not any fault of the phone.
Well i think he has t-mobile since he has the htc hd2 well i switched over just about a week ago from the htc hd2 to the nexus the htc hd2 lags and to slow its beautiful in looks but thats about it.. Once u use it its horrible the nexus one does both it looks AMAZING and it's supER fastt.. Once hacked EVEN FASTER.. and froyo 2.2 is just amazingly fast mine is rooted and stuff already because ive used android before ive had it since the g1 android so yeahh but you should def do the switch =]
Yeah... Froyo with JIT and Flash, although its a work in progress. I couldn't ask for more, perfect phone for me at least.
xSunny said:
Well i think he has t-mobile since he has the htc hd2 well i switched over just about a week ago from the htc hd2 to the nexus the htc hd2 lags and to slow its beautiful in looks but thats about it.. Once u use it its horrible the nexus one does both it looks AMAZING and it's supER fastt.. Once hacked EVEN FASTER.. and froyo 2.2 is just amazingly fast mine is rooted and stuff already because ive used android before ive had it since the g1 android so yeahh but you should def do the switch =]
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If you hold the phone at the bottom, the signal strength drops dramatically.
The multitouch sensor flips axes when your fingers get close. No problems for pinch/zoom but bad for games that rely on multitouch. Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieuB0VvkmwA
It's difficult to see the screen in bright daylight unless screen brightness is all the way up.
The soft buttons are difficult to hit until you get used to them (the touch points are higher than the labels).
I think that's all of the issues...
If any of these would be huge problems for you, get an Incredible or an EVO 4G. However, the N1 has the strongest developer/hacking following currently, and is sure to get any updates from Google first and long before any other phone (as has been the case with Android "FroYo" 2.2.) And of course, the look is personal preference; I think the N1 looks the best of any current Android phone with the Incredible/Evo being very plain and lacking style.
Anyway, Nexus One, Incredible, Evo 4G: the absolute best three Android phones across all four carriers in the US. You absolutely can't go wrong.
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[Edit]: Just saw you said N1 or Desire, so you must be in Europe.
In which case,
A) N1 trumps the Desire. Paul OBrien said it best:
http://twitter.com/PaulOBrien/status/14976167156
@ScootAUFC It's superior by the nature of its unlocked state and the fact it gets updates quickest of any Android phone...
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B) Please search next time! There have been dozens of N1 vs Desire topics in the past week alone:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=690661
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=691467
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6043779#post6043779
Cpt.Curry said:
Planning to get the n1 since I can't stand the winmo interface anymore, its taking to much of my time to get everything working everday, planning to do my first switch to android and thinking about getting the n1 or the desire. Interested to know if theres anything I need to know about the n1 that is a put off. Stuff that annoys users on a day to day basis. I mean no offense to n1 users, just trying to get some info.
Thanks
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Get the EVO 4G instead unless you're outside the US, in which case get the Incredible.
No reason to buy the N1 now that it is no longer the top Android phone. With the EVO 4G you aren't losing anything, and only gaining.
EDIT: After reading a couple of the other posts, maybe the N1 would work out better due to faster updates and unlocked nature of phone at ship.
No I dont have the T-mobile hd2 I have the normal one the T8585, and I live in Australia so incredible is out the question. Or else I would've seriously thought of it, it definitely looks incredible I mean 8.1mp and 4.3 inch screen damn thats good.
nexus5894 said:
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Is screen burn-in really an issue?
Paul22000 said:
If you hold the phone at the bottom, the signal strength drops dramatically.
The multitouch sensor flips axes when your fingers get close. No problems for pinch/zoom but bad for games that rely on multitouch. Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieuB0VvkmwA
It's difficult to see the screen in bright daylight unless screen brightness is all the way up.
The soft buttons are difficult to hit until you get used to them (the touch points are higher than the labels).
I think that's all of the issues...
If any of these would be huge problems for you, get an Incredible or an EVO 4G. However, the N1 has the strongest developer/hacking following currently, and is sure to get any updates from Google first and long before any other phone (as has been the case with Android "FroYo" 2.2.) And of course, the look is personal preference; I think the N1 looks the best of any current Android phone with the Incredible/Evo being very plain and lacking style.
Anyway, Nexus One, Incredible, Evo 4G: the absolute best three Android phones across all four carriers in the US. You absolutely can't go wrong.
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[Edit]: Just saw you said N1 or Desire, so you must be in Europe.
In which case,
A) N1 trumps the Desire. Paul OBrien said it best:
B) Please search next time! There have been dozens of N1 vs Desire topics in the past week alone:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=690661
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=691467
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6043779#post6043779
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Thanks a lot for all your input, but the problems thats you've listed are they a day to day issue for n1 customers. I mean would you be annoyed by it everyday. Does the desire have similar issues. I probably don't know where to get the incredible from and it would also probably be way over my price range.
Thanks a lot

[Q] Should i buy Galaxy s or Desire HD? or wait for the Nexus S?

Hello all.
I want to buy a mobile phone but i don't know what should i buy.
I don't care if my phone is big.(there isn't too big for screen)
but.
in my country (israel), thr prices are the issue.
those are the prices for the phones: (from a mobile store):
HTC Desire HD: 1086$
Samsung Galaxy s(i9000): 768$
Htc Desire:582$
i really want the best phone for the best price.
is there really a reason to add 300$ for the Desire HD?
or should i go for the Galaxy S?
BTW: A8 or Snapdragon?
Thanks All!
The one reason I wouldn't buy the Desire HD is the lack of internal storage space. I mean, 1.5GB vs 16GB? Yes, you can add on a microSD card and move your apps to storage, but the fact that many apps themselves don't let you do it is going to make things a tad more complicated than it has to be. Plus, you'll have to dish out some extra money for a microSD card, unless HTC provides you with one.
That said, the reason I would get the Desire HD is mainly because of the HTC Sense software, oh and the 8MP camera. While the 5MP camera on the Galaxy S is great, the lack of an LED flash leaves a lot to be desired. And TouchWiz isn't really my favourite UI, which is why I've flashed my SGS with a custom ROM and installed LauncherPro.
In terms of performance, I'd say they're about on par with each other. Bigger RAM gives the DHD a bit of an edge over the SGS, but the Hummingbird processor is just significantly better at rendering graphics.
I'm happy with my SGS, and personally, 4.0-inch is the limit for me. Anything above that should really go in the tablet category. Plus, after using the S-AMOLED screen on the SGS, regular LCD screens feel a bit.. insufficient, if you know what I mean.
This is just my opinion. Don't take my word for it. I still think the Desire HD is an awesome phone, just not for me. Since there's also the price factor to think about, and in your case there is a USD300 price difference. I'd seriously think about what I'd pay an extra USD300 for.
I'll wait for a nexus S.
If you are able to get Google Nexus S,
there is absolutely no reason to bother with Samsung Galaxy S.
If I could get Nexus S, I wouldn't even bother with any other phone including Desire HD.
except the nexus s is only coming out with tmobile 3g frequencies..
wait for galaxy s 2 or x12 (lol)
well...
I don't really see alot of changes in the Nexus...
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3620&idPhone2=3115
yeah it's has Led and a few other tiny things..
but it's seems that the hardware is the same...
and i don't think that Desire HD worth adding 300$...
I think i will go with the Galaxy S,
Maybe i will exchange it after the Nexus come out
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BTW! The Galaxt S2 looks Great!!!
Think you should go with the Galaxy S if you get a sweet deal. Otherwise, might as well get the Nexus S since it's slightly updated with Gingerbread.
In reality, it boils downs to, which one do you like better. The straight one or the concave one. Haha.
Not worth getting a galaxy s, developing is slow kinda, but since nexus s is a Google phone with stock aosp gingerbread, u shud get more devs working on it. And get cm first, miui , and all the other mods available.
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Not worth getting a galaxy s, developing is slow kinda, but since nexus s is a Google phone with stock aosp gingerbread, u shud get more devs working on it. And get cm first, miui , and all the other mods available.
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That what i thought about..
The Galaxy S and the Nexus S are the same phone.
so i guess that every mod that will be on Nexus will be on the Galaxy..
that why i'm taking the Galaxy...
(and i'm an Apple dev... :S)
I would wait
I would wait and get Nexus S instead of Galaxy S.
The reasons:
1. Price (~530$ in US if I'm not mistaken). If you have a friend visiting US (preferably one of the tax-free states), ship it directly to the hotel and ask him to bring it.
2. You get "stock" android with fastest adoption of new releases. Samsung's froyo adoption is about half a year late after Nexus and is far below in terms of tuning quality.
3. Even if Nexus S is just a remake of Galaxy, second generation should theoretically have some problems of the first generation resolved... (lag, GPS just to name a few).
BTW all..
I can't find any comparing between the i9000 vs the HD7
HD7 cost the same as the i9000 here.
so maybe i should get the HD7?
AFAIK, HD7 is windows, not android... Does it matter to you?
I'm due to upgrade my Hero in January and currently torn between Desire HD, Galaxy S and Nexus S.
Here's my random thoughts so far, good and bad:
Nexus S
-Nice form factor, but possibly plasticy build like SGS.
-I'm not bothered about the vanilla Android experience as I would like to root flash a custom ROM from day one / as soon as available.
-I have a DSLR so the addition on LED flash over the SGS is no deal breaker.
-I have no intention of video calling so front facing camera is of no concern.
-NFC is not something I will ever use.
-Was expecting dual core, or at least a jump up from 1GHz.
-Unsure if / when T-Mobile UK will stock them.
-Most future proof of the three phones.
-Great screen.
Desire HD
-This was the main contendor to begin with but battery life seems to be a big issue for some and I don't really want a phone I have to either not use fully, disable features or charge more than once a day.
-It has Sense UI, which I have always liked.
-Great build, but possibly a little big.
-Nicest looking of the 3 phones.
-Screen not as good as Nexus S, SGS.
-Again, I have a DSLR so the 8MP camera + flash is nothing for me to get excited about.
Galaxy S
-Laggy out of the box - fixed with custom ROMs and other methods.
-GPS issues - Has this been fixed yet?
-Looks a bit too much like iPhone 3GS.
-Comfortable to hold, but feels a bit plasticy.
-Should get similar updates to Nexus 2, or at least good ports.
-Great screen.
-Increasing amount of decent custom ROMs, mods and themes.
So, with all that said, I'm still no closer to choosing one!
T-Mobile UK do both DHD and SGS already so I'll wait and see if they carry the Nexus S and then maybe I'll be able to make my mind up
Lee
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AFAIK, HD7 is windows, not android... Does it matter to you?
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I understand that the HD7 is almost the same as Desire HD in all terms..
so i guess that it's only a metter of time that a Dual boot will come out..I think..
What do you say?
I want to buy the mobile this week... I can't wait >_<
HD7 or i9000?
I know how you feel Lee...
But for me the Desire HD isn't a choice, cos it's cost 300$ more then the other phones..
that why i think about the HD7 as a choise..
and another thing.... The price hasn't change a bit even if you buy a Used one..
ofear69 said:
I know how you feel Lee...
But for me the Desire HD isn't a choice, cos it's cost 300$ more then the other phones..
that why i think about the HD7 as a choise..
and another thing.... The price hasn't change a bit even if you buy a Used one..
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Wow, that's quite a price jump!
Personally, I'd go for the i9000 over any WinMo 7 based phone purely from an OS point of view.
My friend has the HTC Trophy WinMo 7 phone and it's a great handset, however I think the OS has a while to go before it's a worthy competitor for Android.
Don't buy Desire HD, it's a crap, beside the higher price than SGS, its battery life is horrible and its screen is never as good as Samsung's Super AMOLED.
If time is not problem, you should wait for Nexus S because it has the same specs as SGS plus Android 2.3, flash LED and good supports from Google.
You should get the desire hd it looks the best it don't have that crappy pentile and HTC has a 8mpx camera with flash has a micro SD card slot , and does anyone even use more than 500mb for apps/games anyway ?? , xda already has some wicked roms and with the new snapdragon(better than hummingbird *opinion*) the phone is mega fast straight outside the box and finally HTC always is the next in line for there updates
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But Nexus S not working on 850MHz for 3G
gshklover said:
I would wait and get Nexus S instead of Galaxy S.
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3. Even if Nexus S is just a remake of Galaxy, second generation should theoretically have some problems of the first generation resolved... (lag, GPS just to name a few).
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I was waiting for the Nexus S - I really wanted a stock Android phone, and when I saw the pictures I got very excited - and then I saw the lack of 850MHz 3G (UMTS) support.
Arguable the fastest and best coverage 3G network in Australia, the Telstra network runs on 850MHz (like AT&T and Rogers I believe). Pricing might not be as good - but work can pay for that .
So my question - should I wait with fingers crossed that a 850MHz 3G version of the Nexus S is developed/released, or should I just get a SGS (Telsta capable version - sorry can't post link am too much of a noob) and load stock Android on to it (assuming that in a couple of months someone will have figured how to do this for Gingerbread)?
I'm tempted to wait at least a little while, as no announcement of any availably of the Nexus S in Australia yet, but I really want to upgrade from my BlackBerry Bold soon (it and it's temperamental scroll "pearl" are is driving me mad!) The temptation to wait yet longer for a Honeycomb flavored phone is probably not enough to make me hold off.
Thanks for any thoughts/opinions on this idea

HTC Incredible S Comparison

Can someone please suggest me If i shoud purchase HTC Incredible S or should i wait for HTC Sensation. I have heard of all the talk stating HTC Sensation being loaded with Sense 3.0 while Incredible S may get a limited update to Sense 3.0.
I would also like to know if Skype is available for download on HTC incredible S?
Thanks..would really appreciate the help
Numair
I have Skype on mine (though there is no video calling).
Personally I would wait for the Sensation now, if you're willing to pay the extra. Which isn't to say that the IS isn't a good phone, because it is, but you might as well get the latest and greatest if you have the choice. The Sensation will have more fancy animations and such.
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I would go with the Samsung Galaxy S II instead of the Sensation. HTC is locking the bootloader on the Sensation and who knows how long it'll take someone to crack it. I also like how the Galaxy S II has 16GB of internal storage already as well as more RAM.
Doctorsax,
There is no video calling? then y does it have a front cam? isnt that for video calling? jeez!..i thought it had video calling...but then i guess u r right..its betta to wait for Sensation...hopefully that wud be out soon..Thanks for ur reply
Doctorsax,
Hey can u plz explain me whats bootloader? and isnt Samsung Galaxy S2 too huge in size? i mean does it fit in ur pocket? ...and i read that the battery life of samsung galaxy s2 isnt good..but once again different ppl different opinions....
Well price is not that big of a difference, so sensation would be a nice choice if you really want HTC. As Someone else sais, Samsung galaxy s2 is deffinatly worth watching at too!
dont buy a sensation! im pretty sure the battery of sensation would be really bad. its a tradition of HTC from winmo -> android in last 10 years. the first piece of any hardware change got bad battery. a recent example would be inc S battery gets 2X using time than battery on DHD.
Wait to get a HTC Sensation 2, I bet you sensation2 would be a masterpiece.
Well sensation 2.0 would take sooo long to come..and by then we might have other phones lined up and i will end up waiting for them too ..hehehe
I guess samsung galaxy S2 is really good? but i hope it fits in the pocket..lollll..any idea bout battery life on that one?? n i guess the price wud be so much!
Also been considering 3 devices mentioned - SII, IS & Sensation....
- Samsung is pro with the battery, unlocked Bootloader...design is a bit plastic...but it depends
- IS is for the ones that want to use phone purely as is....with minimal customization environment provides
- Sensation Battery worries me, however in case it will be updated to latest 2.4 with Dual Core optimizations etc might stand a chance. When will this happed though ?
Sad thing is locked bootloader on both HTC, didn't know that is wide spreaded ...but in case you are within reasonable demands user - this is the optimal choice....
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Also been considering 3 devices mentioned - SII, IS & Sensation....
- Samsung is pro with the battery, unlocked Bootloader...design is a bit plastic...but it depends
- IS is for the ones that want to use phone purely as is....with minimal customization environment provides
- Sensation Battery worries me, however in case it will be updated to latest 2.4 with Dual Core optimizations etc might stand a chance. When will this happed though ?
Sad thing is locked bootloader on both HTC, didn't know that is wide spreaded ...but in case you are within reasonable demands user - this is the optimal choice....
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Thanks a lot for your detailed reply..really appreciate it..But can u plz explain me whats Bootloader? I have been a Nokia user all my life. So i have no idea what bootloader means...Currently im stuck up wid Nokia N900..the fone's a flop :-(
i would sell my IS if sensation comes out..but sadly..i dont like 4.3" screen...it is too big for me..
rooting? i own a xtc clip..so i pretty much don't care.
You think a 4.3" screen wud fit into our pockets? hehe
vontdeux said:
i would sell my IS if sensation comes out..but sadly..i dont like 4.3" screen...it is too big for me..
rooting? i own a xtc clip..so i pretty much don't care.
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Bro, how much i need pay to u if want u root my IS with xtc clip?. Where is ur location shop?.
Actually I think Sensation is much better than Incredible S
sportynumair said:
Can someone please suggest me If i shoud purchase HTC Incredible S or should i wait for HTC Sensation. I have heard of all the talk stating HTC Sensation being loaded with Sense 3.0 while Incredible S may get a limited update to Sense 3.0.
I would also like to know if Skype is available for download on HTC incredible S?
Thanks..would really appreciate the help
Numair
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Sense 3.0 ports for single core devices are looking promising!
but if you are going to be on stock for awhile and want some power, i suggest holding out for the sensation.. or by then, the IS price will fall and it can help you make your mind up
Do not buy a Incredible S, it sucks! Is just a scrap phone for a lot of money! It sucks in ALL!
hmmm really????
can someone plz explain me what does root by xtc clip mean?
First, HTC said they will not lock bootloader hereafter. However, they never said when they will unlock current phones. Fingers crossed.
For video call, you can always install Tango from market. Personally, I prefer Tango over Skype.
In turn, the mentioned reasons shouldn't affect choosing Inc S or Sensation, or other brand phones.
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My Incredible S sucks ! I also have an HD2 with Android inside which is a lot better, more powerful and more compatible with many applications. I'm a bit disappointed because for example I cannot use Skype and Sip applications. Trying to call via this phone with these kind of applications is impossible. Battery consumption is a lot faster than the HD2. And sound reception call quality is pretty bad. Sometimes, it seems I'm talking in a conduit or a tunnel. Many echos ...

Inspire vs Vivid...

Has anyone here gone from the inspire to the vivid? I'm undecided on my next phone and I want to know if there are any significant advantages to the vivid.
There are only 10 kinds of people. Those who understand binary math, and those who don't.
Hey man, I was in the same boat as you. I couldn't make a desicion but picked up my vivid today. I just unlocked the bootloader and now looking up how to root it. The Inspire is a sick phone. I previously had an HTC Aria and it was just time to change that dinosaur of a phone. The inspire is super fast but I have friends that have had issues with the stock rom. I rooted my cousins phone and no issues to date. It's super quick for a single core but cons are does not have a front facing camera. The camera on the inspire is really nice. There are tons of roms out for it and you can literally root it in 5 mins with the Ace Hack Kit. I decided to go with the Vivid bc the inspire came out last year and I don't change phones as often as most ppl on here. So I hope in 2 years time to be somewhat up to date with the Vivid vs the Inspire. Both are excellent phones and hope there's a lot of developer support for the Vivid.
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Has anyone here gone from the inspire to the vivid? I'm undecided on my next phone and I want to know if there are any significant advantages to the vivid.
There are only 10 kinds of people. Those who understand binary math, and those who don't.
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I have. This is like an updated Inspire with a bigger screen, without the stupid battery door lol. This thing is officially getting ICS, so I'm going to have to say it's the best phone on AT&T right now. Some may argue GSII but having only touchwiz and AOSP ROMs in development is boring.
i went from the inspire to vivid.... but i wouldnt have passed up a new phone anyway
I loved my inspire, and its probably the only phone i have owned the longest, but i got the vivid as soon as it came out and im in love all over again. You wont regret getting it!
as a matter of fact, i held on to my inspire and almost went back to it with the CIQ stuff, but i held out for bootloader unlock. My love for the vivid was stronger than my concern of privacy and security..
I'm coming from an Aria, so I'm sure I'm in for a treat. I rooted my wife's inspire but haven't done anything else with it. I'm vaguely familiar with her device, so I'm entering this decision with no bias. I'm about 85% sold on the vivid, I just gotta hide the $200 purchase factor. Maybe work a deal with them. "Retention" is a powerful word in this area, so let's see if I can get them to come down. $150 and I'm gettin the vivid.
There are only 10 kinds of people. Those who understand binary math, and those who don't.
I am coming from the Inspire, and I like this phone a lot more.
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My only issue with the Vivid coming from Inspire was the right hand power/sleep/wake button (personal issue), but easier to get used to than having a Vivid and an Exynos SGS2.
Definitely the Vivid. Bigger screen than the Inspire, talk about about a version of ICS coming out soon, not to mention that if you live in an area with LTE, it would make life alot different and easier. You may pay more for the vivid, but you are definitely getting more for the phone.
I went from Inspire to Vivid as well. Loved my Inspire, but I love my Vivid more. Screen size on the Vivid is nice. The Vivid is much easier to root as well. The Inspire has more custom roms, but the Vivid is gonna get ICS. Worth the change for me.
I went from the Inspire to the Motorola Atrix2 & was very disapointed with the phone (had a lot of bugs & motorola excluded it from it's ICS update list) so I took it back & got the Vivid & I'm in love. The screen on this phone is out of this world awesome. It's like the Inspire on steroids. Everything runs faster, smoother, better & plus it's on LTE. It also very easy to root & you can unlock the bootloader very easy using software from HTC's website. If you shop around like I did I got Best Buy to price match Fry's, they had it for $79.99 with a 2 year contract.

Worth it?

I'm currently on an Atrix and I'm thinking of switching to this phone since it has a faster cpu and the ics update is out. Should I go for it ? What do you guys think of the HTC vivid overall?
Atrix_Owner said:
I'm currently on an Atrix and I'm thinking of switching to this phone since it has a faster cpu and the ics update is out. Should I go for it ? What do you guys think of the HTC vivid overall?
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from the atrix to the vivid ....lol
we all love our vivids join the group youll love the new phone for sure
Vivid all the way
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Made the move from the Atrix 1 to Vivid, like day and night. Thanks to htc, vivid is the first us device to get ics.
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Considering that the Atrix will not be getting the ICS release any time soon....
http://www.androidauthority.com/no-ics-update-for-motorola-atrix-4g-50718/
I would definitely upgrade.
The Atrix will be getting an upgrade in the third quarter it is on Moto's site.
That's probably September.
I came from the Atrix as well and yes the Vivid is a much faster and smoother device and I love ICS.
The battery life on the Atrix was better, the Vivid is superior in all other aspects imo.
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Knowing moto they'll throw BLUR on it too.
The Vivid is a great device...I highly recommend it, as the others have posted. Not sure if the OP is still checking this thread but if so, go for it!
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Knowing moto they'll throw BLUR on it too.
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True, but all manufacturers will do that. The Vivid has Sense on it.
I switched from the Atrix to the Vivid. I still have them both. For me, its all about HTC Sense and apps included.
Atrix Exchange/corporate email is horrible. Most phones EXCEPT the HTC Sense phones have horrible Exchange email. Sense also has a great agenda and calendar widget. It even has Task support with widget.
I had to buy $50 worth of apps and widgets on the Atrix to give me the convenience and productivity of the Vivid and Sense.
Battery life, screen size and CPU are trivial to me compared to functionality for business tasks.
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Atrix_Owner said:
I'm currently on an Atrix and I'm thinking of switching to this phone since it has a faster cpu and the ics update is out. Should I go for it ? What do you guys think of the HTC vivid overall?
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I made the switch from the ATRIX to the Vivid with an early upgrade, meaning unlike many people in here I paid $350. I took a gamble and so far could not be happier. I honestly hated my ATRIX when it was on stock, it was not until I got on CM7 that I actually enjoyed the phone. Being on the vivid just feels more solid and flows very nicely. So far the only dislike for the phone is the lack of S-OFF that makes flashing roms more complicated then it should be.
That beign said all around I love the VIVID. Alternatively there was a recent AT&T article that stated the ATRIX was to receive ICS "in the coming months"
While this is not the light at the end of a tunnel, the last time AT&T said that the Vivid became the first (or one of the first) non Galaxy phones to get ICS. So you may consider holding out and seeing what comes in the next few months.
Honestly i had a Galaxy S II and i (LOVED) it. but i couldnt keep wating for ICS. I was flashing so much not because i wanted to see new things. it was because i was bored. So i took a gamble. I figure HTC is better with updates than samsung(truth) So i got the Vivid On Thursday. Friday a software updated came to my phone it downloaded it and ran it. Next thing i know i have ICS. I couldnt believe it. So with that being said. Get the phone i love it!!!
Tegra 2 blows, 1.2ghz dual core snapdragon owns. Nuff said
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