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Anyone using JuiceDefender with your galaxy note? is it worth it to buy this application?
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Sam
Save your money and skip it like anti virus apps. Many people recommended it so i bought it but i didn't like it at all. Experienced sluggish performance, connections not stable and sometimes connection doesn't even come back on unless i manually turn it back on. Also push mail doesn't work since juicedefender turns off data when not in use and checks every 15, 30 etc intervals (however u set it to check), i don't like that at all. I rather have 100% reliable fast performance connectivity than app that saves few % of battery. Just my 2cents
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hmm i heard alot of people telling it saves alot of battery power.. jus wanted to know about the pro version..
Yeah it does save quite an amount. You can configure it to on off Wi-Fi necessarily or learn specific network when you are on the particular area of interest.
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hmm i heard alot of people telling it saves alot of battery power.. jus wanted to know about the pro version..
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My experience was with juicedefender ultimate.
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My experience was with juicedefender ultimate.
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How was it? any real battery improvement? any lagging issues?
Sam
My previous phone was pretty crappy and I had pretty crappy service, so I had to make sure I turned wifi, mobile data, etc. off when not using them. On my Note, I don't even bother turning them off because they drain so little. I don't think bothering with Juicedefender is worth the trouble.
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Had an old Xperia Arc and Juice Defender worked quite well to last me the day.
Now with the Note, I tried with and without it and I find no significant difference actually.
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I agree...
Being new to the android and rooting scene. I downloaded all the recommended apps and one by one uninstalled them including juicedefender...
Whats the point of it stopping data when screen is off? It defeats the purpose of push notifications.
Also I didn't notice any real extension of battery life either
I think it depends how you set up juice defender ultimate. For example on weekdays and working hours I use the "peek" option, letting jd enable connection every 5 minutes. Of course I have than battery drain. With different settings on different times and/or days (up to flight mode at night) I have significant less battery consumption.
It is also important when you use your phone a lot with the screen on, not to let jd automatically turn data on, because then there is obviously no difference at all, with or with out jd running.
There is no use of such apps, I have tried used many such apps from my S2 days and I never felt any difference in performance or battery life..just let it go. Ur using an Android device, and if u use it as a smartphone should be used, u will need to charge in at least once a day.
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AutoStarts is doing everything for me.
I had used JuiceDefender for a short spell when on GB. However, BetterBatteryStats soon showed what a battery hog JD was, so I made it disappear from my phone. Forever.
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I had used JuiceDefender for a short spell when on GB. However, BetterBatteryStats soon showed what a battery hog JD was, so I made it disappear from my phone. And never again.
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Exactly. Juice defender is crap. Its just for lazy people who can't maintain their settings on their own. and juice defender is obviously always running in the background, using up cpu power and draining battery on its own
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How was it? any real battery improvement? any lagging issues?
Sam
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It does save little battery and drains at the same time. Huge down side of using this kind of app is no push and data connection is glitchy, sometimes takes awhile to connect back to network or wifi and slower performance. I can still use gnote all day with single charge so I don't find this kind of app useful to me at all. It's really not hard to turn off and on data or wifi on android unlike ios crap where you have to dig in settings.
Save few % battery vs slow performance, hit or miss connection.. I think answer is simple
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I used to use it, ultimate version. But I quit using it and still have great battery because of my own setting changes. Juicedefender might be okay for people that don't use their phone much. But, if you are constantly on it, like I am, it is just a memory and battery hog.
Its not worth it, and possibly wastes battery juice rather than saving it.
I've been using it for several weeks now, when i go to sleep my usual percentage is from 70 to 85 % i always turn wifi off as i don't charge it at night. With the app running in the background, when i wake up it goes down to 45% when i do not use it as in its not running in the background I'm the morning the battery percentage only hours down by 5% max to 80%.
Pcworld made an intensiv3 comparison on the effect this apps do. The verdict: keep your money.
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battery saver is better
Don't bother. I used it on my HTC Flyer and I saw no difference. Migrated it to the SGN and I saw a huge difference after I uninstalled.
The features are limited and just stupid if you ask me. I believe the best battery app would regulste connectivity on demand (ie when I open Dolphin or refresh Facebook it would connect automatically and disconnect immediately afterwards).
If you are looking to extend battery life I suggest self regulating your connectivity (ie use the toggles) and screen brightness.
For even better battery life try and avoid apps that constantly run (eg ones that monitor other apos and processes).
You should get very decent life out of the SGN, and if you don't do what I did and get a spare battery. They are cheaper than you might think and they are an absolute life saver in emergencies or times with heavy usage.
Hope that helped
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Hi
I've been lurking these forums looking for this but haven't found anything quite like this. The P880 prides itself on great standby battery life but mine is draining more than my previous Motorola RAZR (not the maxx). It never lasts more than about 14-15 hours and that is when i do almost nothing. One, two calls a few messages with no wifi and data off. I have factory reset the phone a few times and whiped the cache. I've tried not installing any software when done and fully charging but still it drains. I'm on v10f but this was a problem before I updated as well.
My only thought is that the battery is flawed, but I don't want to wait 2 weeks for it in repairs if it isn't (the service here is slow and customer support is weak when it comes to this, here in Iceland)
I took screenshots of the drainage. 90% of that is me not using the phone at all. Is this normal? Should I ask for a new battery? The phone is about 3 weeks old btw.
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Bux87 said:
Hi
I've benn lurking these forums looking for this but haven't found anything quite like this. The P880 prides itself on great standby battery life but mine is draining more than my previous Motorola RAZR (not the maxx). It never lasts more than about 14-15 hours and that is when i do almost nothing. One, two calls a few messages with no wifi and data off. I have factory reset the phone a few times and whiped the cache. I've tried not installinh any software when done and fully charging but still it drains. I'm on v10f but this was a problem before I updated as well.
My only thought is that the battery is flawed, but I don't want to wait 2 weeks for it in repairs if it isn't (the service here is slow and customer support is weak when it comes to this, here in Iceland)
I screenshots of the drainage. 90% of that is me not using the phone at all. Is this normal? Should I ask for a new battery? The phone is about 3 weeks old btw.
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What version are you on? 10f has seen lot of improvement in battery life. I dont have to use SetCPU anymore to get better battery and let it run on max 1.5ghz and still seeing very good battery life, despite heavy use.
Yeah I'm on 10f as well. I was wondering if maybe flashing the phone and try to reset it totally would help but I don't know if that'd be any different than just factory resetting?
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What's your screen on time?
Made possible by my sexy LG Optimus 4X HD (P880)
Look at background tasks like photo album sync.
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This was taken at the same time as in the orriginal post. I only talked for a few minutes though. I have sync disabled all the time as well.
I have seen other imgs of the battery graph and when it's on standby the line hardly tilts downwards. This can't be normal right?
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Here it is, image didn't upload for some reason.
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Try freezing cell broadcast, and disabling gallery update over 3g. Hope that helps.
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ksekhar said:
Try freezing cell broadcast, and disabling gallery update over 3g. Hope that helps.
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I'm going to charge him to 100% and leave him with nothing on all night and see how he handles it. What would normally happen? How much percent-drop would the battery have on an 7-8hour timespan?
Went to sleep with the phone at 94% and woke up with 69%. Everything was off. Sync, mobile data, wifi, backround data, location, gps, nfc, I even set it to 2g networks only. Now it says that the "phone" took 69% of that? I'm flabbergasted.
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Bux87 said:
Went to sleep with the phone at 94% and woke up with 69%. Everything was off. Sync, mobile data, wifi, backround data, location, gps, nfc, I even set it to 2g networks only. Now it says that the "phone" took 69% of that? I'm flabbergasted.
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Same here man but didn't diseabled auto sync and broadcoast cell yet so I'm curious if I go sleep and wake up how much juice it took from my 4xHD. Something is sucking out the juice out of our phones.
The only thing that update did change with me is the heath it didn't get as hot as before but my battery is still eating a lot even when is standby.
Hey, I don't no if your phone is rooted or not?
Try deleting superuser, it helped my battery life. And also you should charge your phone more than 100% , that helped too for me.
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Same here man but didn't diseabled auto sync and broadcoast cell yet so I'm curious if I go sleep and wake up how much juice it took from my 4xHD. Something is sucking out the juice out of our phones.
The only thing that update did change with me is the heath it didn't get as hot as before but my battery is still eating a lot even when is standby.
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Try to do a factory reset, the update didn't help me until I did a factory reset. Now my 4X HD only looses about 1-2% over night vid auto sync, before factory reset I lost about 30-40%.
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I use GO Power Master to auto switch to Alarm mode (only alarm, brightness 30%), and the phone eat less than 1% of battery for 6 hours. (firmware V10f)
I cannot see the attached images (don't know why) but I think you should check how long your phone is Awake, Screen On, Wifi and GPS On... then see which apps are cause the drainage.
Also, give the battery more recharge cycles. The battery life on first 2 cycles was catastrophic - for example it lost 4% just by rebooting, but after few days it stabilized to my ordinary each 2nd day charging cycle when turned off in the night. The biggest battery eater seems to be for me display brightness.
Batterylife with 10F is pretty good. Over night I dont lose any battery (data off) and during the day with autosync on only ~2 percent per hour. This is even better than the Samsung Galaxy S2 which I previously used. I did set CPU max speed to 1,1GHz with SetCPU.
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Hey, I don't no if your phone is rooted or not?
Try deleting superuser, it helped my battery life. And also you should charge your phone more than 100% , that helped too for me.
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Oh my! I think that worked! So the root was causing the drainage? I'd really like to have him rooted though. Is there any other way to avoid this?
I'm testing this out right now though. I will know if this was the problem in a few hours!
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Oh my! I think that worked! So the root was causing the drainage? I'd really like to have him rooted though. Is there any other way to avoid this?
I'm testing this out right now though. I will know if this was the problem in a few hours!
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You make full unroot or only disabled superuser?
Hey,
I just traded an Optimus 4X HD. I should get it within the next few days.
I'm wondering how battery life is now that LG has released a few update?
Thanks
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Bux87 said:
Oh my! I think that worked! So the root was causing the drainage? I'd really like to have him rooted though. Is there any other way to avoid this?
I'm testing this out right now though. I will know if this was the problem in a few hours!
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Try installing SuperSU rather than superuser from the market.
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I am using tha stock ics but the battery gets empty verry fast.
With 1 hour using Facebook With 3G the battery gets from 100 to 60 and less easily.
When I am not using it at night and With 2G it empties 10 easily.
Can anyone explain me where is the problem?
I am putting a pic with using viber and Facebook With 3G
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Thread moved. Please post all your questions/requests for help here in Q&A in future.
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AvRS
Did you wipe the cach and dalvik??? Worth trying this to see if this resolves the issue but backup your files first.
If not then, back everything up and try and full device restore.
Is that a full stock of LG ics? I think not much you can do about that. Other than trying one of the custom ROMs and getting battery efficient kernels.
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Is that a full stock of LG ics? I think not much you can do about that. Other than trying one of the custom ROMs and getting battery efficient kernels.
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Stock ICS has pretty decent battery life..I`ll suggest you to calibrate your battery once and see what the result is..
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Same here
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Stock ICS has pretty decent battery life..I`ll suggest you to calibrate your battery once and see what the result is..
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Also here I report high battery drain.
Stock ICS ROM, rooted at first, then tried a battery usage data reset with no result.
Factory restore, same.
Wiped caches and dalvik cache (with CW recovery), phone bricked.
Un-bricked and reinstalled ICS stock, with CivZ_StormTrooper_rev3 kernel mod. Now with No Frills CPU & Juicedefender free, less than 10 hours without using phone (just data / h3g mode on).
First item in consumption list, "Android OS".
Any ideas?
Thank you
First. you should think about using an custom ROM based on stock. carburano Rom is Good but also Jishnu Sur´s rom is Awesome.
If you afraid to Root you Phone, it´s as easy a 1 2 3 nowadays just use this awesome Tool http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2020737
Reason: Many of programms you don´t need are removed my first consumption is WIFI. So even if i have WIFI on all day, my phones is steady till the night.
Second. Reset Battery status in CWM
Third. You using a damn smartphone dont expect s**t that this will hold many days this is no Nokia 3210 BTW if you use it that means u use Battery Facebook BTW is one if the most active Programms i know. There´s "high drain" in Order.
Darkmind82 said:
First. you should think about using an custom ROM based on stock. carburano Rom is Good but also Jishnu Sur´s rom is Awesome.
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I will try one of them, thank you for the advice.
Darkmind82 said:
If you afraid to Root you Phone, it´s as easy a 1 2 3 nowadays just use this awesome Tool http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2020737
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Pretty cool (and I used it to unbrick phone ), I suggest to use it too!
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Reason: Many of programms you don´t need are removed my first consumption is WIFI. So even if i have WIFI on all day, my phones is steady till the night.
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Wifi was my second suspect (first was CPU clock).
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Second. Reset Battery status in CWM
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Is the clear cache option?
AW: High battery drain
No friend it's under advance options labeled wipe battery stats. But do this only when your battery is fully charged
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Installed Optithrust 1.1 V30A/B ROM, baseband 1035,21_20121130.
Pretty cool ROM and included apps, lot better than LG's stock BUT....
But my battery discharges at tremendous rate: 10 or 15% in 1 hour. Autosync, GPS, Wifi disabled, screen brightness at 20%.
Leaving phone without PIN (white keyboard with PIN request) drain 5% battery in 2 mins.
Battery usage lists
Cell Standby
Android OS
Screen
Android System
Phone idle
Detail on Cell Stanby
Time on: 27m 37s
Detail on Android OS says:
CPU Total 1m 13s
Keep awake 12m 36s
I'm not sure if before ICS upgrade the "keep awake" time was so high, but I remember it was more lower than Time On. Just now Android OS is passed to 1st place in consumption list
How can I discover if it's an Android or battery related problem?
R: High battery drain
No clues? I'm trying with a new battery but it takes some time to achieve full performance, but for now it's on 10 hours.
There are apps for choose apps and services running? Easy to use, possibly... Auto start manager is a pain... something like bum on linux
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No clues? I'm trying with a new battery but it takes some time to achieve full performance, but for now it's on 10 hours.
There are apps for choose apps and services running? Easy to use, possibly... Auto start manager is a pain... something like bum on linux
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i like the ES-task manager with root permissions it shows you what could be blocked autorunning and what you should let active
Without changing your system you could give "Juice Defender" a try, just look up in Appstore. I have no experience with this app, but it trys to defend your juice
I handled it by using some custom rom (recommending 4.1.2 and not 4.2.1 -> better battery life so far, look up some CM 10 ROM)
in dev forum pengus77 is working on some awesome kernel (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2097788) that also raises battery life enormous.
with all that stuff my 2X works very nice since a few days.
BUT: read instructions befor you do anything please!
R: High battery drain
About 20 hrs in stsndby. Really big improvement also with pimp my Rom app. Now I need a better music app, the stock one eats 20% battery per hour..
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medoro said:
Installed Optithrust 1.1 V30A/B ROM, baseband 1035,21_20121130.
Pretty cool ROM and included apps, lot better than LG's stock BUT....
But my battery discharges at tremendous rate: 10 or 15% in 1 hour. Autosync, GPS, Wifi disabled, screen brightness at 20%.
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this is me 100% of the time, on a good day, 10% 1 hour = 10 hours. =( sad. and its sill like if i have EVERYTHING on. its 6-8, its not much less.
I recommend to doing Battery Calibration.
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Can someone gv me more tips and trick for battery life, ive customize my device at minimum, but its still drain fastly. Still dont know why.. Here what i did.
.brightness lowest
.data, wifi, blutooth, nfc turned off if not used
.extended battery on
.i dont play games.
Cpu spy showing deep sleep well when i didnt touch my device, but android system is showing the highest in battery life. Im abit confius about that. Shouldnt screen is the highest? Hmm.
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Here is my ss. Why the hell android system is the higher? Ive used many android device before, seems this is not normal. Deep sleep is going well according to cpu spy.
battery life is really relative
it varies on users to users
it depends on many things:
- brightness display settings, auto vs manual
- apps installed, some are consistently running on the background
- data connection, this is the biggest drainer, depending on your area, you may get strong or weak signal(weak means your phone will tend to consistently trying to look for better connection from the network resulting to more drain in battery)
- etc., etc.
bottomline, don't worry about it too much unless the drain is really really horrible
personally, my TX is horrible in 3G but that is expected
Thank you for replying, may u check my screen shot, i just upload it. and please tell me is this also happen to ur device? normal/not normal?
I once had this problem and solved it by wiping cache and dalvik cache. System isn't supposed to use most resources on the phone
But even with system using that much battery you don't have a bad battery life.
I usually don't end up with 50% battery after 12 hours (usually I'm already drained by then )
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crazymister said:
I once had this problem and solved it by wiping cache and dalvik cache. System isn't supposed to use most resources on the phone
But even with system using that much battery you don't have a bad battery life.
I usually don't end up with 50% battery after 12 hours (usually I'm already drained by then )
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Ok, how im gonna delete cache and dalvic cache? i still didnt install any recovery on my device, is there any working recovery for locked bootloader on .140 firmware?
Not very patient are you.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2230429
merseyman said:
Not very patient are you.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2230429
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thanks for remind me.:good:
Let the phone get used to it. Soon it will be okay.
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Confirmed, my battery life is now ok. Thanks for those who gv me info about it.. Problem solved.:thumbup:
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hello people,
i am quite rookie to android, and i am very sorry, if i introduce myself with a silly question wish might be already answered clearly in an existing thread. but i couldn't explicitly find it, so i want to ask you.
is there a general difference in how much battery drain the 9305 have (in standby/ cpu-sleep) just depending on if an AOSP or a Stock-based ROM is used??
i tryed a lot with AOSP based ROMs, different Kernels and settings. But I never ever come under a consumption of apprx 3% battery drain per hour in standby.
Catching some phrases from people posting here using Stock based ROMs, it seems to me, the deal with a lot less drain.
is that true? and is "that" really the reason for the diff?
today i was also really surprised, when i saw my dads purely unmodified 9300 laying around unused. it showed 12% drain in standby.....after 1d 5h 20m. i know that the 9305 is a lil hungrier than the 9300.....but still i think: DAMN!!!!
It depends on ROM/Kernel/installed apps (wake locks). You can surely achieve the same performance like a 9300. I had really good experiences with stock based custom roms where i had just 5-7% drain over night which was brilliant.
to specify my question: there is no way around flashing back to a stock-based ROM for improving battery life, because AOSP based ROMs are all hungrier in general?
The big problem are the apps that you are using , i got 77% after 1 day and 7 hour's and did like 20 phone calls , watch 2 episodes of STAR TREK NG over lan and casual internet use (~30 minutes) and some pictures like ~10 until now , but i kill all apps and use clear memory every time i put the phone to sleep + 80% of time the screen is at low as possible, no smart function active and on power saving mode and s voice closed. I.m on 3G and love my battery!
Run Better Battery Stats and look for wakelocks .
jje
thanks a lot. i will give bbs a try. may i also ask which app do you use for killing apps and keeping the memory clean?
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thanks a lot. i will give bbs a try. may i also ask which app do you use for killing apps and keeping the memory clean?
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Android OS nothing else ..
jje
@futbol
are you running a stock-based ROM? i would assume so...
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is there anyone out there running an AOSP-based ROM achieving a battery drain less 1-2%/hour by just killing apps and keeping the memory clean?
i9350 have a true issue with battery especialy in LTE coverge areas. No more 10 hours for me. Now i'm using JuicyDefender Pro : 49 hours
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stephane.papin said:
i9350 have a true issue with battery especialy in LTE coverge areas. No more 10 hours for me. Now i'm using JuicyDefender Pro : 49 hours
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thanks a lot.
as i also see in ur signature, besides using the bat-sving app you are running a stock-based ROM... coincidence? Or is it true that the AOSP-ROMs are significantly more leaky/ "drainy"?
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thanks a lot.
as i also see in ur signature, besides using the bat-sving app you are running a stock-based ROM... coincidence? Or is it true that the AOSP-ROMs are significantly more leaky/ "drainy"?
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Hi, no stock rom : Xtremes v10.0 without juicedefender My battery duration is around 30 hours.
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stephane.papin said:
Hi, no stock rom : Xtremes v10.0 without juicedefender My battery duration is around 30 hours.
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hi stephane,
thanks a lot for your reply. for me, the xtreme-ROM also belongs to the stock-based-ROMs
Jelly Bean definitely drains more battery then Ice Cream Sandwich, but I am not sure about difference between 4.1 and 4.2 versions. But sure, the most important is what apps do you have, and even how do you use them. Some apps sometimes drain batter and sometimes don't. I think that every time I enable location services to use Google Now network locator servise and some other related stuff really drains battery during first day or two, later it gets better. Anyway look for partial wakelocks on the first place when looking at Better Battery Stats.
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Also check CPU states with BBS or whatever to see is your CPU goes to sleep or stucks at the lowest frequency. If you use some apps like viber, and your father doesn't, that could be the reason too.