I don't understand why the SD card was partitioned this way. On my SGS it had 2GB for app/system and ~13GB usable.
But the Raider has 8.83GB usable 3.42GB internal which equals to 12.25GB what about the other 4GB.
With 16GB i would expect at least 14GB of usable storage weather they be system or for music/videos.
The way hTC partitioned the SD card is very weird is there any way to re-partition so we get more usable storage then 8.83GB?
Advertising 16GB and only getting 8.83 usable seems like a huge lie in my opinion.
I don't understand their reasoning either lol. I have been wondering why it is like this too
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That's different. The Vivid has 8.83GB of phone storage and 3.7GB internal storage. Making a total of 12.53GB out of 16. With the Android OS and the Sense UI, 3.46GB is being used to support them. I think HTC did it that way since they didn't include an SD card with it. Especially since the internal storage acts as an SD card, cause that is where apps go when you move them to SD. Also could be that they wanted you to maximize available space on your SD card for music, pictures, and videos.
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on the HTC site for the velocity it says
"Available storage: up to 13 GB"
on the HTC site forthe Vivid it says
"16 GB eMMC"
So it seems a little missleading, but it doesnt technically say that 16GB would be available.
There may be a way to flash a new partition layout via CWM, no doubt it would be fraught with danger.
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on the HTC site for the velocity it says
"Available storage: up to 13 GB"
on the HTC site forthe Vivid it says
"16 GB eMMC"
So it seems a little missleading, but it doesnt technically say that 16GB would be available.
There may be a way to flash a new partition layout via CWM, no doubt it would be fraught with danger.
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All spec listings for the Velocity show 16GB storage with 13GB user available, The Vivid listings only show 16GB and doesn't show how much is available to the user. I don't know why they show user available for the Velocity and not the Vivid. Here are more differences between the Velocity and Vivid. Base OS for Velocity is Android 2.3.7, Vivid has 2.3.4. Sense version for Velocity is 3.5, Vivid has 3.0.
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Still seems like a lie to me, it say 16GB then i would think i would have that for storage. By doing it this way you get very little for storage, really get half of what was advertised.
Sure part of it was for apps but the way Samsung partitioned was nice and made sense this however is limiting the user, I may not have a lot of apps so space is just sitting there and cannot be used. 8GB is easy to fill having 13GB is still not enough but that's what the micro SD card is for but still better then 8GB which is extremely low for a device.
On the SGS any large app was installed on user usable storage, which gave the user control to delete it if needed. I have a few games that i had installed that downloaded 500MB for which i cannot delete because its not on user usable storage.
I can't think of a single electronic device that has an OS that doesn't advertise the size of the full HDD. When you buy a PC you expect a portion of the HDD will be used for Windows, when you buy a phone you should expect the same IMO. It would be different if there was internal storage for the OS and you were talking about the external SD. In any case, swing by Newegg and pick up an SD for cheap and it won't be an issue.
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hehe your point is valid, I would just rather not have ~4GB partitioned just for OS 2GB is enough. If an app needs room it can install on the user usable partition (Phone Storage).
Actually i have a 32GB card in the phone and not running out of space per-say. But i have a 2 hour commute everyday and lots of music and Shows that i watch.
Its not a deal breaker just seems a little weird coming from SGS which kept it very simple resulting in more usable storage for music and videos.
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I can't think of a single electronic device that has an OS that doesn't advertise the size of the full HDD. When you buy a PC you expect a portion of the HDD will be used for Windows, when you buy a phone you should expect the same IMO. It would be different if there was internal storage for the OS and you were talking about the external SD. In any case, swing by Newegg and pick up an SD for cheap and it won't be an issue.
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The operating system (linux) does report the sizes, but the front end gui (android) does not as it is not written that way.
It is anoying, but thankfully you have an expansion slot
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There are conflicting reports on whether the Samsung Focus s SGH i937 has an internal micrsd card slot or not, I'm thinking about buying one but I need more storage then 16 gigs and I would like to upgrade to 32 gigs.
No. There is no card slot in Samsung Focus S.
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_focus_s-review-690p2.php
Check out the line below the first pic on the page.
I Called Samsung today and they informed me that it has a internal micro sd slot that is not user accessible.
mcsc said:
I Called Samsung today and they informed me that it has a internal micro sd slot that is not user accessible.
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If someone did a teardown of this device we could know for sure.
mcsc said:
I Called Samsung today and they informed me that it has a internal micro sd slot that is not user accessible.
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That would be totally insane. I was thinking about getting one as well, but after hearing that, I'm not so sure anymore as I to would want to increase available storage space. Why would they do that?
I believe there is a 32 GB version available. Mine has no expansion slot accessible.
Only available in 16GB. No SD slot. The lack of. Sd are support was brought on by the way WP7 interacts with external memory. Which can hinder the user experience. Bing it for more info
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DukeNukem said:
That would be totally insane. I was thinking about getting one as well, but after hearing that, I'm not so sure anymore as I to would want to increase available storage space. Why would they do that?
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its not insane, its irritating.
the inability of WM7 devices to support external micro sd cards has been known for well over a year now. it has to do with WM7 os reading/writing faster than the cards can handle.
...and considering all the cloud based services available now, why would you need more thatn 16 gigs in your device anyway? really, the only things that need to live on the device would be apps. music, pics, and video can all be accesssed from the cloud. imo.
additional storage space
There are success stories of those who replaced their 16gb card with a 32 gb card and probably only a matter of time before somebody explores the same on this device, but again, why would you with all the cloud services. Success stories, specifically, on the Arrive. There are those that replaced their 16gb internal card with a 32gb card and it's working at least as well. Good luck!
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mcsc said:
I Called Samsung today and they informed me that it has a internal micro sd slot that is not user accessible.
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There's alot of evidence out there suggesting NAND is used - not micro sd - that I would personally deem more compelling than a Samsung phone rep's response.
Just Search for "focus s" and "nand"...
Ive been checking my settings but could not find 16GB
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It's the amount of internal storage your device has, although some of it is allocated for the system partition and other things. It has roughly 10gb I believe for user data.
Let me check it again to verifie..
Could it be this: (see first post)
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16gb is partitioned as follows :
1gb - rom/system/data
2gb - user apps/data
11gb or so - usb mass storage
so there is your space
Have you you bought a hard drive? Sure I have a 3TB drive but after formating I'm lucky to have 2.7 TB left. The 16GB is just raw space once partitioned and formated you will never have 16GB. There are some loses in space depending upon what file system you use. All file systems have to have some space set aside for cacheing and system information.
Thanks I Understand now..
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I've one additional question.
What about system space ? It's a place where i can install apps ? Only 1.88 gb ?
Yes "only" 2GB for apps..
As far as I can tell, no phone ever had more than 2GB "except Galaxy Nexus" and most of them did not even reach that capacity..
bartass127 said:
I've one additional question.
What about system space ? It's a place where i can install apps ? Only 1.88 gb ?
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2gb is the unformatted size, once formatted you will always lose some space
matius44 said:
Yes "only" 2GB for apps..
As far as I can tell, no phone ever had more than 2GB "except Galaxy Nexus" and most of them did not even reach that capacity..
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And besides, a lot of large apps like GPS navigation apps or games only store the main program in the apps partition and use another partition or even your external SD card to store data. With the majority of apps not even exceeding 10 or maybe 20MB you can install hundreds of apps.
LOL you are talking about a 16GB my brother got the LG P970 that phone says it has 2GB internal and he has about 1.1GB fir usage now that's a joke, nor being able to use music on the phone.
I do regret getting the 16GB maybe 32GB would have been better but who knows might get a 64GB MicroSD many say it works flawless might be worthy I think...
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REVERSiN said:
LOL you are talking about a 16GB my brother got the LG P970 that phone says it has 2GB internal and he has about 1.1GB fir usage now that's a joke, nor being able to use music on the phone.
I do regret getting the 16GB maybe 32GB would have been better but who knows might get a 64GB MicroSD many say it works flawless might be worthy I think...
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Well, you do need an operating system, don't you? When you buy a 64GB SSD and install Windows you're left with about 50GB or so as well.
bioweb said:
Well, you do need an operating system, don't you? When you buy a 64GB SSD and install Windows you're left with about 50GB or so as well.
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I dont complain its a great phone,the issue is that I made a nistake myself by picking the 16GB I should have waitted fir the buyer till he gets them he said a week but it took him about three to get the 16GB
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Hey,
Can someone explain/clarify our phones storage to me.
It looks like we have 2 partitions on our phone...sortof ...
~8+GB of what it calls Phone storage, but is actually part of the phone storage.
And ~4GB of what it calls, Internal Storage...
BUT both are actually the phones storage?
This excludes any MicroSD card you may have put in the phone.
I have a SanDisk 64GB MicroSD Card... which so fare has been pretty useless on this phone...other than saving digital recordings...and photos (strangely the same photos are saved on the "Phone Storage" to although I have it marked for save to "Storage CArd")...
Can we move apps to our Micro Sd cards, like with the old WM phones?
Thanks for the clarification and help
BTW: I'm running the stock GB Rom
get the app apps2sd or link2sd
i dont think the vivid supports 64 gig micro sd card..i think the highest u can go is 32 gigs
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pak-stars said:
i dont think the vivid supports 64 gig micro sd card..i think the highest u can go is 32 gigs
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That is correct 32 the largest sd you can use.
ronnie498 said:
That is correct 32 the largest sd you can use.
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Nope. Mine has had 64GB card for months (almost a year now, bought not long after purchasing the phone)...working fine, like a number of other people on here.
Saves pictures, attachments, music, etc.
Here's an old post on it, I know I started one way back when too so there are a few about it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1563079
Got a ScanDisk MicroSDHC...or HX something 64GB class 6 for ~30 at BestBuy...
I'll try the app given...can anyone answer the partition questions?
I know the operating system takes some 5GBs, but I don't have +6GB of apps so I can't figure out where my Rom is going.
I'm wondering if the on board storage is going to be one storage pool or broken up like the EVO LTE?
On the EVO HTC set up two storage pools. One for apps one for everything else. The app storage is only 2gb. With some games being so large i have ran out of space.
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I would actually like to know this as well. This split storage business really annoyed me on the One X.
it should be the same as One X. So most likely only 25gb would be left for the media storage, 2gb for /data or should I say app storage and 5gb for system storage
Riyal said:
it should be the same as One X. So most likely only 25gb would be left for the media storage, 2gb for /data or should I say app storage and 5gb for system storage
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The one x+ has a combined media storage and data partition so I think they will go that route
Slithered from my HTC One X+
So I'm currently driving an OG EVO 4G, and was REALLY excited to get a class 10 32GB SD card for Christmas last year. My rationale in asking for it had been that it would go with me to my next phone.
LOVE the ONE in so many ways, but kind of balk at the fact that it doesn't have an SD card that can be swapped out.
So what do you ONE owners think? Is it an issue?
Well it depends on your storage needs. I used to have a 32gb card in my DHD, but it only had 8 GB internal storage and I used it with app2sdext. When I got my one x last year I never worried about storage (32gb model).
I had most of my music on there and still had more than 10gb free.
If you really really need 64gb of movies with you you can still use usb otg and an sd reader or an external hdd/usb sticks.
That's my 2c
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Yeah, I guess I'm less concerned about it from a capacity perspective, and more from a backup, and maybe switching between ROMs angle... I'm just used to being able to pop a chip and pop another one in if I need to, y'know? Safety net and all that rot.