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Can someone explain to me why I always have different applications that I didn't specifically start listed in my task killer? I am trying to get a handle on the battery life of my CM7 14 NC. I am pretty new to android and have a hunch that it is something simple that I am missing. TIA.
No one else sees applications running on their NC that weren't implicitly started? Sometimes I look and twitter / facebook will be running even though I didn't start them.
That's pretty much how android works, and it's also the reason why you shouldn't be using a task killer...
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http://geekfor.me/faq/you-shouldnt-be-using-a-task-killer-with-android/
As has already been implied, don't use task killers. Apps start up and shut down on their own and Android has a built in 'task killer'. I found that when I was using a task killer, my phone ran at maybe 10% faster (due to less running on the ram), but the battery life actually was worse by a good margin. IMO, the Nook runs really well (especially if you OC it) and the battery life can better be controlled in other ways. Turning it off when not in use, unlike a phone (because you need it on to make a call, of course), will save a lot of battery. Also, SetCPU can be used to set profiles, they will save you on battery a lot. Disable auto-update and notifications for apps unless you really need them. use the power control and set it to where you can turn the brightness down low on the fly and keep it down unless you need it up. Sure, the screen looks beautiful when bright, but unless you're playing a game or watching a video, you don't need a bright screen.
Sorry for the rant, hope maybe it helps a little. Also, the more updates we have the better battery life will be.
Thanks for the heads up on this. I had not read that article before. I will uninstall the task killer and see what happens to my battery life. The other suggestions about turning off auto updates makes sense also.
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Also, SetCPU can be used to set profiles, they will save you on battery a lot.
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Donot use setcpu or set profiles with cm7!
luciferii said:
Donot use setcpu or set profiles with cm7!
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why not? I know it has built in monitoring, but it seems to me they work together.
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why not? I know it has built in monitoring, but it seems to me they work together.
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cm7 already has profiles built into it under the cyanogenmod settings in the settings app! if you run both you are running the same thing twice and wasting both performance and power.
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Hey Guys,
Android multitasks like a boss, unlike iOS it doesn't pause it's apps on pressing the home key, while completely letting it stop running code, but i'm still missing something in android:
For example, when i'm at home and i connect my phone to my speakers in the living room, i sometimes use youtube to play tracks that i don't have on my storage. This works fine but when the track is nearly finished and i switch tabs in the dolphin browser to open another song before the track is over, the playback immediately stops because i changed tabs.
Or when i'm listening to a song on youtube through and i want to go back to the homescreen to open another app, the playback also stops.
I know it drains the battery like crazy if the browser would continue, but i wonder if there isn't an app or something that would let android run a couple of non-system apps at a time once in a while.
I hope you guys know something
Thanks
I have the same issue, and I use the YouTube App. I think it's because Google assume's you're watching the video, not just listening to it.
Radio/Music Apps don't have this limitation. Try any these three FREE Internet Radio stations and you'll be hooked: Pandora Internet Radio, TuneIn Radio, iHeartRadio and Sky.FM Internet Radio.
You can't be serious, Android doesn't have "real multitasking". Not even ICS.
You can separate "Multitasking" into 6 categories.
1) True Multitasking - you can see AND interact with two (or more) RUNNING applications.
2) True Multitasking - you can see two (or more) RUNNING applications, only interact with them one at a time.
3) Multitasking - you can only see and interact with one application but all other applications RUN in the background.
4) Pseudo-Multitasking - you can see and interact with one application but only RUN several applications in the background.
5) Pseudo-Multitasking - you can see and interact with one application and can SAVE STATE (to ram) other applications.
6) No Multitasking - you can see and interact with one application and can see a list of other applications which can be called upon.
The only mobiles that can multitask (that I know of) is the N900/N9/N950, the Blackberry Playbook, Palm Touchpad/Pre/Pixi/etc.
Android can technically do True Multitasking (or even True Multitasking2) but it needs to be hacked and made to do so in a very different way, as Inoxos shows:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7E1ckOoeRJg&feature=player_embedded
Right now, the best you can get is ICS Pseudo-Multitasking were the core services RUN in the background, you can run a few (6 iirc) applications in the background, and have unlimited* applications SAVE STATE.... and put them into a *Multitasking List* The reason for this move by Google is simple: Battery life. However, for smart users aka power users this is quite intrusive and we rather have True Multitasking because we know what we are doing.
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However, for smart users aka power users this is quite intrusive and we rather have True Multitasking because we know what we are doing.
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I understand your point, but isn't this why Android is open source?
When you buy a device, you are getting a "consumer level" OS, which isn't really configured for power user - this is why the manufacturers go to such lengths to lock down the device.
What I would like to see in Android is the ability to designate a process/application as unkillable by Android task management, so that I can ensure that when I switch task, that process isn't killed. I could achieve this via a custom AOSP build, but I don't want it enough to actually bother doing it myself!
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Real multitasking is possible but it must be enabled in the app. I use Igo navigation which can be forced to run in the background, and just today i had navigation running and giving verbal instructions whilst listening to a podcast all while browsing the web. If thats not multitasking i dont know what is.
Saying android cant do real multitasking is rubbish im sorry but thats the nicest way i could have put it. Go back to your iphone lol or learn how to use android properly before making such comments.
Using your definitions there If i can run navigation in the background while using the headset to control the music app and at the same time use the browser normaly what type of multitasking is that? All 3 apps are running simultaniously and I can control 2 apps at once. Whilst this is happening I can be downloading something from the market and answer a phone call.
Nice long post full of crap info you have there.
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Real multitasking is possible but it must be enabled in the app. I use Igo navigation which can be forced to run in the background, and just today i had navigation running and giving verbal instructions whilst listening to a podcast all while browsing the web. If thats not multitasking i dont know what is.
Saying android cant do real multitasking is rubbish im sorry but thats the nicest way i could have put it. Go back to your iphone lol or learn how to use android properly before making such comments.
Using your definitions there If i can run navigation in the background while using the headset to control the music app and at the same time use the browser normaly what type of multitasking is that? All 3 apps are running simultaniously and I can control 2 apps at once. Whilst this is happening I can be downloading something from the market and answer a phone call.
Nice long post full of crap info you have there.
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@martcerv i know android can multitask like that, on an iphone you can let the music play in the background too.. but igo navigation and music are ment to work in the background.. i was wondering if there's a way you can choose yourself what apps you want to run in the background. Because you can't let the browser run in the background
@ekin, will ICS let me to select the browser to be one of the 6 apps that run in the background?
I think its down to each app, by default most aren't enabled to run in the background but the os is capable of it. Even igo will only work in background if you change the advanced settings to work that way.
As mobiles are limited in ram and battery, most app developers trend to disable this feature otherwise lots of people would complain that there system its lagging and battery life is being killed by the app. I'd like to see an option in most aps so people that want it can use it but they will be aware of the possible performance and battery issues.
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I think its down to each app, by default most aren't enabled to run in the background but the os is capable of it. Even igo will only work in background if you change the advanced settings to work that way.
As mobiles are limited in ram and battery, most app developers trend to disable this feature otherwise lots of people would complain that there system its lagging and battery life is being killed by the app. I'd like to see an option in most aps so people that want it can use it but they will be aware of the possible performance and battery issues.
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The solution for that is for android's multitasking capabilities to advance further to the decree of Maemo/WebOS/etc and a smart ux overhaul that makes such process easy.
For instance, look at Win7's Superbar. Many years were spent getting it to its current state, and it handles this problem in a cinch!
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What you described is Pseudo-Multitasking as I have defined. As stated by another, even iOS does this (but less advanced). If you use a device from a different (multitasking) mobileOS you might actually grasp my comment.
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The solution for that is for android's multitasking capabilities to advance further to the decree of Maemo/WebOS/etc and a smart ux overhaul that makes such process easy.
For instance, look at Win7's Superbar. Many years were spent getting it to its current state, and it handles this problem in a cinch!
@martcev
What you described is Pseudo-Multitasking as I have defined. As stated by another, even iOS does this (but less advanced). If you use a device from a different (multitasking) mobileOS you might actually grasp my comment.
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Kangal, I get you totally.
I recently dropped my N900 on the floor and finally killed it. I chose to get a SGS3 as a replacement because I already got my wife a N9 a while ago so I don't see the point of getting another one. Anyway, I've been trying to find a way to true multitask on my SGS3 like Maemo does but it seems that it's not possible (maybe at least not on stock). I like the SGS3 for its screen and the fact that it can handle videos in pretty much any resolution but I can't help to think that I actually own a "dumbphone" for the fact that it can't true multitask.
I mean, if it can't multitask properly, what's the point of having 4 cores?
there used to be an opensource Window switcher on windows mobile, same maker as wififofum that rocked. its funny it dissapeared and never was implemented for android. That rocked
It indeed is strange that android doesnt have it natively, there are paid solutions on the market thought
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Hey Guys,
Android multitasks like a boss, unlike iOS it doesn't pause it's apps on pressing the home key, while completely letting it stop running code, but i'm still missing something in android:
For example, when i'm at home and i connect my phone to my speakers in the living room, i sometimes use youtube to play tracks that i don't have on my storage. This works fine but when the track is nearly finished and i switch tabs in the dolphin browser to open another song before the track is over, the playback immediately stops because i changed tabs.
Or when i'm listening to a song on youtube through and i want to go back to the homescreen to open another app, the playback also stops.
I know it drains the battery like crazy if the browser would continue, but i wonder if there isn't an app or something that would let android run a couple of non-system apps at a time once in a while.
I hope you guys know something
Thanks
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the only problem with Android's multitasking is that it drains battery. there's so much applications running in background, and i have to manually kill them. to minimize my manually killing these applications, i have to check their settings and for those applications that have sync, i have to increase the sync timing for example from every 5 mins to 24 hours. its a nightmare to go through all my applications (i figured it out late), and it gives me headache when some applications there's no such option!
i know for some applications it is useful for example if u want to download something in a different application while doing something else with another application. but i dont download much(well... its a phone, not a computer). so because of that, i really hate Android's multitask approach. i hope at some point, there's an option where Android can switch multitask configuration, where i would love to use iOS's solution, where they pauses background apps... it would certainly solve S2's battery problem.
Actually android can does allow true multitasking just like on your desktop. It not android that has the limitation, its some of the apps. My wife's SGS2 on gingerbread 2.3.6 can run Aircalc, floating browser & overskreen all on the screen at the exact same time running simultaneously & I can still cycle through my homescreen without minizing anything. This is straight stock right out of the box. Android has had the capability for years, there just hasn't been many apps that take advantage of it. Android is the most powerful, versatile OS out there because the possibilities are endless
lol, just cause an app has a workaround doesnt mean that the OS shouldnt have it natively... thats the issue, it should be natively supported, not random by some genious developers...
If that were true than you can program any app on any os and call the os genious... because a programmer invents something... I remember people building awesome stuff in dos, that didnt make dos awesome lol.
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I made multitasking alot better - even on sense 4.0 and 4.1
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1900626
Testers welcome.
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I made multitasking alot better - even on sense 4.0 and 4.1
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1900626
Testers welcome.
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zeppelinrox you rock with yer scripts, automagically lmao
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Popup play its multitasking
I can write here.. Whatsapp, mail while watching videos.. Also power amp running music and do the same.. That's multitasking... Would be cool to let YouTube play the video in the background.. Or save the state of a website when you stop using the browser..
Other than that I don't see any other use
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You're confusing multitasking with a band-aid fix that's good for only one single purpose.
Call it what ever you want.. Multi-tasking(wiki) : "In computing, multitasking is a method where multiple tasks, also known as processes, are performed during the same period of time. The tasks share common processing resources, such as a CPU and main memory"
When ever I can accomplish this no matter what.. This can be called multitasking....
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Back in DOS days you could only run 1 task at a time.. Play a game? Sure but you could not do anything else...
Develop software in gwbasic? Sure but again you can not do anything else.. Copy some files from a diskette to another? Sure but once again you can not do anything else.. Mean no multitasking allowed
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lol some dudes created a shell, in which a windowed environment allowed multitasking
anyways strictly speaking your correct. But then my requirements of multitasking is a bit higher
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multitasking app?
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I made multitasking alot better - even on sense 4.0 and 4.1
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1900626
Testers welcome.
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Sounds quite promising. Is it possible to make an app that you can adjust the number of simultaneous tasks allowed. Simiar to, say setting, maximum cpu using gui? I'm sure many people that are not familar with all the inner workings of android would appreciate having this capability.
Thanks for your efforts!
I have just bought a new Galaxy Note and I think it is really really good, but there's just a few things that I'm not sure how to do and what certain things mean etc:
1. I have only ever had a H symbol with 2 arrows in the notification bar. I thought that I would have a 3G symbol but this has never appeared. Question is, what is the H symbol and is my 3G working? I have just turned off fast dormancy, as I have read that it may drain batter, and now I have an E where the H usually is. What is the E for?
2. I'd like to improve the battery life and I have read on here of a few ways to do that. One of the ways is to make sure that apps don't update too regularly. Where do I actually go to check how often the apps update?
3. I have downloaded a few apps and some have saved to the SD card and some have saved to the phone. Why is this? How do I choose where apps save to?
4. I used to have an iPhone 4 and I was forever double tapping the menu button and closing down apps. As far as I am aware with an adroid phone you don't need to do this? Is that right?
I'm sorry for length of this post and the amount of questions that I have asked. I am normally really good with phones but the galaxy note is more like a computer and I would rather just ask the questions than figure it all out myself over time.
Thanks in advance.
H is like 3.5G its a little faster than 3G bit still not 4G. E or edge is 2G.
You can check in the settings of most apps itself how frequently they auto update
As far as moving apps go you can go to setting then apps and choose where the app is, except for system apps.
To close apps and not have them run in the background you have to long press the home button and then swipe the app you want to close
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ottawayd said:
I have just bought a new Galaxy Note and I think it is really really good, but there's just a few things that I'm not sure how to do and what certain things mean etc:
1. I have only ever had a H symbol with 2 arrows in the notification bar. I thought that I would have a 3G symbol but this has never appeared. Question is, what is the H symbol and is my 3G working? I have just turned off fast dormancy, as I have read that it may drain batter, and now I have an E where the H usually is. What is the E for?
2. I'd like to improve the battery life and I have read on here of a few ways to do that. One of the ways is to make sure that apps don't update too regularly. Where do I actually go to check how often the apps update?
3. I have downloaded a few apps and some have saved to the SD card and some have saved to the phone. Why is this? How do I choose where apps save to?
4. I used to have an iPhone 4 and I was forever double tapping the menu button and closing down apps. As far as I am aware with an adroid phone you don't need to do this? Is that right?
I'm sorry for length of this post and the amount of questions that I have asked. I am normally really good with phones but the galaxy note is more like a computer and I would rather just ask the questions than figure it all out myself over time.
Thanks in advance.
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H is the fastest internet you'll get on your note, the downside of it is that it drains the battery pretty fast. As for me, I switch to it when I want to load YouTube videos, download lots of data and similar. You can download a "3G switch" widget from Google Play to quickly jump between H(3G) and EDGE(the E symbol, slower internet, but much better battery life)
By turning off the automatic sync, you save a lot of data and battery life, you can do that via Settings > Accounts and Sync. Personally, I find it better to manually refresh my email and similar when I need it, but it's your decision.
Since Note has a massive internal memory, you should keep all apps installed to the internal memory rather than the SD card, for the fastest experience, since none of the apps need to load from the slower SD card.
Android handles processes very well by itself so there is no need to manually "kill" apps. If you wish to end some unresponsive ones, you can get SystemPanel Task manager from the Google Play store, it's pretty good.
Feel free to PM me for any further questions
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ottawayd said:
2. I'd like to improve the battery life and I have read on here of a few ways to do that. One of the ways is to make sure that apps don't update too regularly. Where do I actually go to check how often the apps update?
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besides turning the global sync off, you can:
- check the betterbatterystats thread, it may seem confusing at first, but it's worth the effort
- disable gps location
- in all internet apps (e.g. facebook, rss readers, weather etc. ) turn the automatic updates off (or set to every 8/16/24hr)
- if you feel brave, check either autostarts or autorun manager in the market (both apps paid) - based on trial and error you can disable triggers which make apps to autostart, without damaging their functionality
- avoid taskkillers
- check lama (also on market, free), you can set it to do a lot of things, like turn wifi on when you're at home and switch to mobile when not, turn sync and internet off when screen is of etc. etc.
I think the greatest problem with the sgm is batterylife. My wife and I have both the sgm. She've got stock rom and I custom rom md-utility. My battery life is a little better, but not so much. Her apps are fb whatsapp and mine fb twitter tapatalk. Tried to deinstall fb, but still it sucks. Is the batterlife better with mini2?
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battery life is always an issue for android and iOS smartphones
For good battery I guess Nokia still leads. Even with Windows Phone.
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For good battery I guess Nokia still leads. Even with Windows Phone.
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With great features comes short battery life but there are various ways in which you can extend the battery life uptill a certain extent .
Try these methods :
Use Android’s Built-in Battery Usage Screen
There’s a screen built into Android that most casual users probably don’t even know about, and it can tell you exactly what is killing your battery. Head into Settings –> About Phone –> Battery use to see what has been killing your battery life.
From this screen, you can usually see what apps are the worst offenders, and you will probably notice that the biggest problem—at least, the biggest one that we can fix—is actually the backlight on the phone. Personally I’d prefer to talk less to other humans, but that isn’t always an option!
Note: on my phone, I’ve already configured the backlight to not be very bright—normally that number would be a lot higher.
Adjust the Backlight to be Less Bright
Since we’ve already determined that the backlight is usually the biggest problem, you should probably adjust the settings. Head into Settings –> Display –> Brightness, where you can choose to automatically adjust, which usually works fairly well, or you can just turn the brightness down to the lowest acceptable level.
You should make sure that the screen timeout value is set to turn off quickly as well.
Disable Your Wi-Fi When You Don’t Need It
Wi-Fi can really speed up accessing data on your phone, but it can also be a big drain on the battery if you don’t need it enabled, especially when you are out and about… The phone will try and scan for a wireless network even though you may not want it to.
To enable Airplane mode, you can head into Settings –> Wireless & networks–> Airplane mode.
You can easily toggle the Wi-Fi on or off with a widget or shortcut—there’s a built-in widget included in Android phones, or you can use the AnyCut or BetterCut utilities to create your own shortcuts to directly turn them on or off without requiring a widget.
Disable Bluetooth if You Don’t Use It
If you aren’t using a wireless headset, there’s no reason to have Bluetooth running all the time, and you should probably cut it off to save the battery life. If you never use it at all, head into Settings –> Wireless & networks–> Bluetooth
You can also enable or disable the Bluetooth when you do need it, using the power widget.
Use the Power Widget to Easily Toggle GPS, Bluetooth, Wireless, and Screen Brightness
Android includes a built-in Power Widget that can easily toggle these settings on or off—just long press on the background of one of your screens, choose Widget –> Power Control to add it to the screen. You’ll notice in this example screenshot that I’ve got my GPS enabled but I’m not using Wi-Fi or Bluetooth at the moment—the icon all the way on the right lets you easily toggle the screen brightness settings.
This is probably the simplest and easiest thing that you can do to save your battery without having to dig into the settings all the time.
Disable Apps that Sync Constantly
The built-in Email application (not the Gmail one, which uses Push technology) can suck the battery badly, because it syncs on a too-regular basis, especially when you have lots of accounts—each one of them is set to sync every 15 minutes. You’d be better off setting it up to sync manually, but if you want it to sync automatically, you should set it to sync less frequently.
Open up the Email application, head to your account, and choose Account settings –> Email check frequency from the menu. Change this to something more like an hour… or never. You can always hit refresh manually when you want to read your email.
The same thing holds true for other accounts, like Twitter clients, which are even less important to update all the time. For Seesmic, you can head into Settings –> Background Updates from the main screen. For the official Twitter app, the settings are similar.
The Facebook application polls automatically in the background, and you can customize the refresh interval for that as well—if you don’t need Facebook updating all the time, you should set this value as high as possible.
From the main Facebook screen—the one with the icons—head into Settings –> Refresh interval from the menu.
Disable the GPS Location Features
One of the biggest battery sucking features on my droid is the GPS… When I have navigation going, the battery dies far too fast, so I end up having to keep it plugged in the whole time I am driving. This makes sense… but what you might not know is that a lot of other applications use the GPS as well.
You can also change the GPS to use wireless networks, and uncheck the option for Use GPS satellites—this will make the GPS a little less accurate, but it will save your battery. Note that you probably want the real GPS enabled if you’re using Google Maps Navigation.
Additionally, you should turn off the geolocation features in your Twitter client, weather application, or whatever other apps that you really don’t need them in. If you want to keep it enabled, that’s great, just realize that it does drain the battery, so uncheck this option to help.
Use a Task Manager to See What is Always Running
It is a wise decision to have a copy of Advanced Task Cleaner or a similar application installed on your phone to help you kill applications that don’t need to be running, but more so that you can see what exactly is launching itself repeatedly in the background. You can setup an auto-kill list for applications you don’t use that often—make them cut off when you shut off the screen, or after an interval.
Note: If you’ve configured your application settings to not pull down lots of data or do checking in the background, it’s not quite as important to keep tasks killed all the time—that’s really what kills your battery, not having them sitting idle.
You can also configure advanced task manager to show you CPU usage for each app, which is a more useful meter than memory usage when it comes to battery life.
Disable or Remove Applications That You Aren’t Using
Once you have identified the application that you don’t want running all the time, check in the settings to see if it can be removed from running in the background. Some applications will give you an option for notifications that can be turned off if you don’t need them, making the application not check in the background so often.
It should go without saying, but we’ll say it anyway—you should remove the apps that you don’t need anymore, especially the ones that are draining your battery as determined from the android battery panel or task manager. Head into Settings –> Applications –> Manage Applications and then you can click the Uninstall button for an app.
Disable Home Screen Widgets You Don’t Need
If you’ve got loads of widgets that are pulling data from the web, that means they are likely pulling down data in the background all the time. You should try not to go overboard with these, or remove the ones you don’t actually need.
Disable Animated Wallpaper
Yeah, that sweet animated wallpaper doesn’t help your battery any. Get rid of it for a small extra battery savings.
Keep the Battery from Getting Too Hot
One of the quickest ways to kill a battery is to leave it out in the sun—try and keep your phone somewhere that isn’t too hot whenever possible. You’ll end up needing to replace the battery a lot quicker if you don’t.
And my personal recommendation is to close your phone in the night which will save your battery . You can also use call forwarding if you get important calls in the night .
Hope this helps
All the credits of these tips goes to http://www.howtogeek.com
After rooting Battey really drains fast....
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After rooting Battey really drains fast....
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Rooting is only to gain superuser access right ?!
I'm just thinking, where's the relation between gaining superuser access on the system and battery drain ?
For example with laptop,
If we logon with superuser user account, does it make the battery run out faster than logon if we logon with guest account ?
.:Sorry for bad English:.
Battery life is one of the biggest problems with android though it has got better with time
and will continuse to do so, you just have to wait
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arcootje said:
I think the greatest problem with the sgm is batterylife. My wife and I have both the sgm. She've got stock rom and I custom rom md-utility. My battery life is a little better, but not so much. Her apps are fb whatsapp and mine fb twitter tapatalk. Tried to deinstall fb, but still it sucks. Is the batterlife better with mini2?
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Maybe you can adjust the CPU frequency when screen-off around 122MHz-245 MHz, it helps, even not significantly affect the battery life.
I had a galaxy mini and i can say the battery life is really short for what it packs. I will give you some tips that helped me get more juice out of it.
Use flight mode at night. This really helps if you do end up with some battery left at the end of the day.
Disable network data when you are not using it.
Under wireless and network, mobile networks, change the network mode to gsm only. If your phone is on auto, it will constantly search for a better signal and will change fron 3g to gsm and back many times. This really drains the battery so having it set on one option will help, also gsm netork uses less battery by itself so you can get more talk time.
Go to play store and download an app like titanium backup. Uninstall all the apps that you don't use. Really, all the apps that you never enter.
Optional, get advanced task killer and kill processes from time to time.
After doing all that, your battery life should get considerably better, everything else is common sense.
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Battery life?
I only unmarked the 2 Google Services Locations on Settings + GPS.
Now I had battery at 51% during 25 hours and deep sleep 99%.
Only phone. No wifi nor 3G.
battery life is very weak on mini.
even with everything off and I mean everything (removed many system apps) battery lasts 2 days and maybe a half.
just by standing idle ( no background apps, services or internet running) it saps all of the battery
UPDATE: Check post #2 for the updated information!
Hey guys, first off I know many are going to say "Another battery thread.." but I wanted to share what I have been doing to my Galaxy S5 and see what you guys are doing.
Device:
-Samsung Galaxy S5 (AT&T)
-Rooted (towelroot)
-Running The Extreme Debloated ROM below
-Stock battery
ROM: Being that we don't have any custom roms yet, less is more. You of course could use titanium backup or the like to freeze many of the apps, uninstall many of the bloat apps yourself or you could install the Extreme Debloated ROM from the link below.
[NCE}{SafeStrap]DeOdexed/Extreme Debloat/Stock/Android L Features/Under 400mb!
Screen: We all know the more dim the screen the better the battery life, I don't use auto brightness but some do.
Greenify: If you aren't using this yet, you should! Rooted or not, this app works!
Auto-Sync: If you can function without this, turn it off. All apps, change to sync less frequently.
CPU: If you are only using your device for simple tasks, underclock it. I have mine running at 300 MHz-1.498 GHz interactive cfq. Of course you can set the Governor to be on demand etc for when you need it. I use No-frills CPU Control
Llama: There are many apps that you can use but Llama is free and is easy to get going, check it out here. Below is what I have my events set to, of course there is a bit more to it (advanced settings, aka delays etc). I have the Llama events that I use attached below, just install Llama and then place the text file in the Llama folder (stored on the local sd, internal). Go to events and press the menu button, then import and select it.
Explanation Of Events For Llama:
1-When screen turns off, but is not in a call and music is not playing. Delay for 1 minute and then disable mobile data, disable wifi, run the shortcut (from greenify) "Hibernate Now", disable account sync. The delay can be customized, but I like it at 1 minute. I have read from Intelli3G that turning the signals on and off can effect battery life, so previously I had it with no delay. This is fine if you don't turn your phone on and off too often.
2-When screen turns on, enable mobile data, enable wifi, enable account sync (but don't update). This is straight forward, turn it all back on. You can select the account sync to update if you want.
3-Wifi off if not connected when screen turns on. Delay for 40 seconds and then disable wifi if not connected. Since event #2 turns on the wifi by default, this will turn it off if it is not connected to a network.
4-Mobile data off if on wifi. When the phone connects to wifi, delay for 45 seconds and then disable mobile data. You will still get texts/calls etc, but not use data of the network.
5-Mobile data on when wifi off. Just as event #4 but the reverse, since we turned off mobile data while the wifi was on we need to turn it on. No delay, because we want it back right away.
6-Phone powered on. When the phone turns on, delay for 30 seconds and then run the greenify hibernate now shortcut. You can increase the delay if you have any processes starting up on boot.
AFWall+: Any firewall app will do just fine, but if you want to specify the IPv6 support (4G) then this one works great! Just realize it is default to selecting apps allowed to use the network (aka white list), which for me is just the browser/messaging/swiftkey. I have a toggle widget set on my screen that I turn on/off depending if I need anything special (use the market/youtube etc). This keeps them from using the network, thus saving your battery.
Autostart Processes: You can use many apps to change this, but I used SD Maid. Turn off anything you don't need running in the background (facebook etc).
Ads: Might not save much, but blocking ads will help on your data usage at least. I like Adaway. I also like to patch the apps from using ads (paranoid much?), I would think that covering two bases is better than one. Use Luckpatcher for this.
Apps: Back on my first smart phone (Palm Pre), we didn't have specific apps at first for normal things like facebook so we used the browser for the majority of our needs. You can use instagram/facebook/email etc all via the browser, thus reducing app usage in the background (data use, push notifications etc). I have tried fast for facebook and many small email clients, but you are sacrificing lots. The mobile pages work close to the app, better than a clone app. If you are like me I like the style and functionality of facebook/gmail/instagram, but I have not found any apps that pull this off very well outside of the official ones. Being you can block the apps via firewall and force stop them with greenify it does help, but apps like facebook/gmail they keep checking for updates and keep running causing wakelocks. Some apps like AquaMail seem to do the trick for me.
Xposed Framework: I LOVE the functionality that it provides, as it reminds me of the modding that we had back on WebOS but with these frameworks running in the background it causes some battery lose.
Closing Notes: There are many other options and possibilities depending on how you use your phone, and of course your mileage may vary. These are from my own testing and readings, some things may not even help or be very effective but this is why I am posting this. Let us share what works best for our device! Being I don't run XPosed I can't use Intelli3G, but since I am cutting off data where I can it helps. I would be interested in putting my phone in 2G/3G/4GLTE with a button click, might be possible with Llama but I haven't tried.
Credits:
[email protected] for the towelroot!
[email protected] and @raynan for their awesome work on debloating the stock ROM!
[email protected] for his suggestions on tasker/Llama!
[email protected] for greenify!
[email protected] for No-frills CPU Control!
[email protected] for Llama, the reason my battery lasts longer!
[email protected] for AFWall+!
-dominik for adaway!
-ChelpuS for LuckPatcher!
If you have found ANY of this useful, have any suggestions, comments etc please post below. Click Thanks if you want to show appreciation if this did help you. Thanks!
Update #1:
-Coming soon!
Test #1:
Using the above information in post #1 I was able to get 32 Hours 15 Min (1 d 8 h 14 m 54 s) with 6 Hours Screen On Time! Check screen shots below for the proof, and comment below to the awesomeness! I will be doing a new test with the updates coming to the OP!
Test Subject:
-Check the attached BetterBatteryStats log for complete info!
-Samsung Galaxy S5 (AT&T)
-Rooted (towelroot)
-Running The Extreme Debloated ROM below
-Stock battery
-ROM: [NCE}{SafeStrap]DeOdexed/Extreme Debloat/Stock/Android L Features/Under 400mb!
can you post up some screen shots of your battery life / stats?
I'm on stock, rooted, bloat is frozen. I'm using grernify for games and other apps I don't use regularly or don't rely on for push notifications. I use adaway for ad blocking.
with just those steps taken, and using the phone as a smartphone, I can easily get 20+ hours off charger and a screen use of 5 hours.
I understand what you're trying to do here but what is the point of diminishing returns?
I have gotten around the 18 hour mark, but out of the box I was only getting around 12. I will try getting an accurate screenshot and try out a few other settings. Our batteries may vary slightly I'm sure, and at some point I bet there are diminishing returns like with underclocking. I will test it out and report back
Thanks for the input @Russ77
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Updated! I was able to get 32h 15m battery life with 6h of screen on time! @Russ77 @GDofWR420 @UnhoIy
kalans said:
Updated! I was able to get 32h 15m battery life with 6h of screen on time! @Russ77 @GDofWR420 @UnhoIy
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Can't put this thing down. Battery is great, I'm always on it and get almost 7 hours screen time before I throw it on the charger. For me I keep the screen on the lower setting with auto turned off and screen set to dynamic for that deep, bold color.
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GDofWR420 said:
Can't put this thing down. Battery is great, I'm always on it and get almost 7 hours screen time before I throw it on the charger. For me I keep the screen on the lower setting with auto turned off and screen set to dynamic for that deep, bold color.
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I'm at 4 hours 17 minutes screen use and have 42% battery remaining. I'll easily surpass 7 hours of screen use and probably 20 hours total battery.
when idle on mobile signal my phone consumes about 1%/hr. if I wasn't playing couch potato today (its 107 outside) and was doing stuff I'd use around 6 hours of screen time and could go 30 hours total battery time.
this is all with no battery saving measures taken other than greenifying all banking and game apps.
Hey guys, first off I know many are going to say "Another battery thread.."
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Yes, to play devil's advocate here:
The apps and tweaks are going to make some difference, but it's more about how you use your phone, rather than doing a bunch of tweaks and modifications, which many of us have done at some point or another (the same tweaks but maybe with different apps and Roms).
I've seen posts around here talking about getting 3 and 4 days average, and sometimes 5 days of battery, and I always say that's because you all don't use your phone that much.
It's all about how you use your phone. I only get up to 48 hours with moderate use; that's terrible battery life by the standards around here; and with heavy use, with my brightness cranked up because I like my colors pretty and bright, and with consistently playing games all day, I'm only getting about 4 and a half hours screen on time. That battery life might be 7 hours or 2 full days, depending on how much else I'm doing with the phone.
I love how I posted this thread to help others but instead it is just getting people to post about the opposite.. I just got 54+ hours out of the OEM battery, but I am sure nothing I did helped.. Insert sarcasm here.
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kalans said:
I love how I posted this thread to help others but instead it is just getting people to post about the opposite.. I just got 54+ hours out of the OEM battery, but I am sure nothing I did helped.. Insert sarcasm here.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using XDA Free mobile app
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Oh, I don't doubt the 54 hours battery life. Like I said, the apps and tweaks are going to make some difference. But it all depends on how you use your phone. I'm not going to get 54 hours battery, even if I use your phone because of what I do. I'm playing games, or streaming radio, or watching movies or Youtube, and that's not all day, and with my screen bright.
Just me personally, I don't like to worry too much about how much battery life I'm getting. When I start doing that, then I find myself going out my way and doing things different (such as frequently checking the battery stats and stretching the phone's downtime) like I would not normally do, trying to see how much battery that I can actually get, instead of just enjoying the phone as I would normally use it.
When I had my old HTC Evo a few years back, I was doing everything that you're doing, and then some (as you can find several of these threads for every phone), trying to get every little ounce of juice that I could out that miserable battery. Same type apps and Roms, just different names. I had apps that turned off Wifi, data, bluetooth, and even crashed the phone once in a while. I actually got used to turning my screen brightness all the way down so that I could barely see anything. And it was great having a Rom so de-bloated, that I got a chance to find out what was missing when I got lost driving and needed directions. Yeah, it made a difference in the battery all right.
kalans said:
UPDATE: Check post #2 for the updated information!
Hey guys, first off I know many are going to say "Another battery thread.." but I wanted to share what I have been doing to my Galaxy S5 and see what you guys are doing.
Device:
-Samsung Galaxy S5 (AT&T)
-Rooted (towelroot)
-Running The Extreme Debloated ROM below
-Stock battery
ROM: Being that we don't have any custom roms yet, less is more. You of course could use titanium backup or the like to freeze many of the apps, uninstall many of the bloat apps yourself or you could install the Extreme Debloated ROM from the link below.
[NCE}{SafeStrap]DeOdexed/Extreme Debloat/Stock/Android L Features/Under 400mb!
Screen: We all know the more dim the screen the better the battery life, I don't use auto brightness but some do.
Greenify: If you aren't using this yet, you should! Rooted or not, this app works!
Auto-Sync: If you can function without this, turn it off. All apps, change to sync less frequently.
CPU: If you are only using your device for simple tasks, underclock it. I have mine running at 300 MHz-1.498 GHz interactive cfq. Of course you can set the Governor to be on demand etc for when you need it. I use No-frills CPU Control
Llama: There are many apps that you can use but Llama is free and is easy to get going, check it out here. Below is what I have my events set to, of course there is a bit more to it (advanced settings, aka delays etc). I have the Llama events that I use attached below, just install Llama and then place the text file in the Llama folder (stored on the local sd, internal). Go to events and press the menu button, then import and select it.
Explanation Of Events For Llama:
1-When screen turns off, but is not in a call and music is not playing. Delay for 1 minute and then disable mobile data, disable wifi, run the shortcut (from greenify) "Hibernate Now", disable account sync. The delay can be customized, but I like it at 1 minute. I have read from Intelli3G that turning the signals on and off can effect battery life, so previously I had it with no delay. This is fine if you don't turn your phone on and off too often.
2-When screen turns on, enable mobile data, enable wifi, enable account sync (but don't update). This is straight forward, turn it all back on. You can select the account sync to update if you want.
3-Wifi off if not connected when screen turns on. Delay for 40 seconds and then disable wifi if not connected. Since event #2 turns on the wifi by default, this will turn it off if it is not connected to a network.
4-Mobile data off if on wifi. When the phone connects to wifi, delay for 45 seconds and then disable mobile data. You will still get texts/calls etc, but not use data of the network.
5-Mobile data on when wifi off. Just as event #4 but the reverse, since we turned off mobile data while the wifi was on we need to turn it on. No delay, because we want it back right away.
6-Phone powered on. When the phone turns on, delay for 30 seconds and then run the greenify hibernate now shortcut. You can increase the delay if you have any processes starting up on boot.
AFWall+: Any firewall app will do just fine, but if you want to specify the IPv6 support (4G) then this one works great! Just realize it is default to selecting apps allowed to use the network (aka white list), which for me is just the browser/messaging/swiftkey. I have a toggle widget set on my screen that I turn on/off depending if I need anything special (use the market/youtube etc). This keeps them from using the network, thus saving your battery.
Autostart Processes: You can use many apps to change this, but I used SD Maid. Turn off anything you don't need running in the background (facebook etc).
Ads: Might not save much, but blocking ads will help on your data usage at least. I like Adaway. I also like to patch the apps from using ads (paranoid much?), I would think that covering two bases is better than one. Use Luckpatcher for this.
Apps: Back on my first smart phone (Palm Pre), we didn't have specific apps at first for normal things like facebook so we used the browser for the majority of our needs. You can use instagram/facebook/email etc all via the browser, thus reducing app usage in the background (data use, push notifications etc). I have tried fast for facebook and many small email clients, but you are sacrificing lots. The mobile pages work close to the app, better than a clone app. If you are like me I like the style and functionality of facebook/gmail/instagram, but I have not found any apps that pull this off very well outside of the official ones. Being you can block the apps via firewall and force stop them with greenify it does help, but apps like facebook/gmail they keep checking for updates and keep running causing wakelocks. Some apps like AquaMail seem to do the trick for me.
Xposed Framework: I LOVE the functionality that it provides, as it reminds me of the modding that we had back on WebOS but with these frameworks running in the background it causes some battery lose.
Closing Notes: There are many other options and possibilities depending on how you use your phone, and of course your mileage may vary. These are from my own testing and readings, some things may not even help or be very effective but this is why I am posting this. Let us share what works best for our device! Being I don't run XPosed I can't use Intelli3G, but since I am cutting off data where I can it helps. I would be interested in putting my phone in 2G/3G/4GLTE with a button click, might be possible with Llama but I haven't tried.
Credits:
[email protected] for the towelroot!
[email protected] and @raynan for their awesome work on debloating the stock ROM!
[email protected] for his suggestions on tasker/Llama!
[email protected] for greenify!
[email protected] for No-frills CPU Control!
[email protected] for Llama, the reason my battery lasts longer!
[email protected] for AFWall+!
-dominik for adaway!
-ChelpuS for LuckPatcher!
If you have found ANY of this useful, have any suggestions, comments etc please post below. Click Thanks if you want to show appreciation if this did help you. Thanks!
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I would Recommend you to use Hibernate App no need of root
Hibernate App
Running @cstayton bo3 Kool kit active rom and have phenomenal battery life. No spare apps here. Turned on power save mode at 18%.
Watched two episodes of dexter, a little over half an hour on dead space, 4 short phone calls, a hand full of text and a few hours on the Web and using the xda app.
kalans said:
UPDATE: Check post #2 for the updated information!
Hey guys, first off I know many are going to say "Another battery thread.." but I wanted to share what I have been doing to my Galaxy S5 and see what you guys are doing.
Device:
-Samsung Galaxy S5 (AT&T)
-Rooted (towelroot)
-Running The Extreme Debloated ROM below
-Stock battery
ROM: Being that we don't have any custom roms yet, less is more. You of course could use titanium backup or the like to freeze many of the apps, uninstall many of the bloat apps yourself or you could install the Extreme Debloated ROM from the link below.
[NCE}{SafeStrap]DeOdexed/Extreme Debloat/Stock/Android L Features/Under 400mb!
Screen: We all know the more dim the screen the better the battery life, I don't use auto brightness but some do.
Greenify: If you aren't using this yet, you should! Rooted or not, this app works!
Auto-Sync: If you can function without this, turn it off. All apps, change to sync less frequently.
CPU: If you are only using your device for simple tasks, underclock it. I have mine running at 300 MHz-1.498 GHz interactive cfq. Of course you can set the Governor to be on demand etc for when you need it. I use No-frills CPU Control
Llama: There are many apps that you can use but Llama is free and is easy to get going, check it out here. Below is what I have my events set to, of course there is a bit more to it (advanced settings, aka delays etc). I have the Llama events that I use attached below, just install Llama and then place the text file in the Llama folder (stored on the local sd, internal). Go to events and press the menu button, then import and select it.
Explanation Of Events For Llama:
1-When screen turns off, but is not in a call and music is not playing. Delay for 1 minute and then disable mobile data, disable wifi, run the shortcut (from greenify) "Hibernate Now", disable account sync. The delay can be customized, but I like it at 1 minute. I have read from Intelli3G that turning the signals on and off can effect battery life, so previously I had it with no delay. This is fine if you don't turn your phone on and off too often.
2-When screen turns on, enable mobile data, enable wifi, enable account sync (but don't update). This is straight forward, turn it all back on. You can select the account sync to update if you want.
3-Wifi off if not connected when screen turns on. Delay for 40 seconds and then disable wifi if not connected. Since event #2 turns on the wifi by default, this will turn it off if it is not connected to a network.
4-Mobile data off if on wifi. When the phone connects to wifi, delay for 45 seconds and then disable mobile data. You will still get texts/calls etc, but not use data of the network.
5-Mobile data on when wifi off. Just as event #4 but the reverse, since we turned off mobile data while the wifi was on we need to turn it on. No delay, because we want it back right away.
6-Phone powered on. When the phone turns on, delay for 30 seconds and then run the greenify hibernate now shortcut. You can increase the delay if you have any processes starting up on boot.
AFWall+: Any firewall app will do just fine, but if you want to specify the IPv6 support (4G) then this one works great! Just realize it is default to selecting apps allowed to use the network (aka white list), which for me is just the browser/messaging/swiftkey. I have a toggle widget set on my screen that I turn on/off depending if I need anything special (use the market/youtube etc). This keeps them from using the network, thus saving your battery.
Autostart Processes: You can use many apps to change this, but I used SD Maid. Turn off anything you don't need running in the background (facebook etc).
Ads: Might not save much, but blocking ads will help on your data usage at least. I like Adaway. I also like to patch the apps from using ads (paranoid much?), I would think that covering two bases is better than one. Use Luckpatcher for this.
Apps: Back on my first smart phone (Palm Pre), we didn't have specific apps at first for normal things like facebook so we used the browser for the majority of our needs. You can use instagram/facebook/email etc all via the browser, thus reducing app usage in the background (data use, push notifications etc). I have tried fast for facebook and many small email clients, but you are sacrificing lots. The mobile pages work close to the app, better than a clone app. If you are like me I like the style and functionality of facebook/gmail/instagram, but I have not found any apps that pull this off very well outside of the official ones. Being you can block the apps via firewall and force stop them with greenify it does help, but apps like facebook/gmail they keep checking for updates and keep running causing wakelocks. Some apps like AquaMail seem to do the trick for me.
Xposed Framework: I LOVE the functionality that it provides, as it reminds me of the modding that we had back on WebOS but with these frameworks running in the background it causes some battery lose.
Closing Notes: There are many other options and possibilities depending on how you use your phone, and of course your mileage may vary. These are from my own testing and readings, some things may not even help or be very effective but this is why I am posting this. Let us share what works best for our device! Being I don't run XPosed I can't use Intelli3G, but since I am cutting off data where I can it helps. I would be interested in putting my phone in 2G/3G/4GLTE with a button click, might be possible with Llama but I haven't tried.
Credits:
[email protected] for the towelroot!
[email protected] and @raynan for their awesome work on debloating the stock ROM!
[email protected] for his suggestions on tasker/Llama!
[email protected] for greenify!
[email protected] for No-frills CPU Control!
[email protected] for Llama, the reason my battery lasts longer!
[email protected] for AFWall+!
-dominik for adaway!
-ChelpuS for LuckPatcher!
If you have found ANY of this useful, have any suggestions, comments etc please post below. Click Thanks if you want to show appreciation if this did help you. Thanks!
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I was/am having some issue importing the events for Llama I was wondering if I am doing something wrong or...? Is there a specific way of importing it?
Hey guys quick question I'm an avid user of power saving mode (not UPSM) but I feel it could do better so I've been working on my own profile in tasker to better extend my battery. My question is what's the CPU underclocked to in power saving mode
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Hey guys quick question I'm an avid user of power saving mode (not UPSM) but I feel it could do better so I've been working on my own profile in tasker to better extend my battery. My question is what's the CPU underclocked to in power saving mode
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1728 MHz, or 1.7 GHz on mine.
shortydoggg said:
1728 MHz, or 1.7 GHz on mine.
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How many cores does it under clock