This might be a silly question, but does anyone know if the G1 will be able to access the web if you live in an area where 3G is not available yet? I live north of Los Angeles (who has 3G) in Bakersfield and we don't have it yet. I am hoping that I was not an idiot to preorder the phone and then not be able to use all the cool web features.
Thanks in advance,
Jamie
it should still work on the EDGE network
From my understanding it will work with GPRS, Edge, and 3g so you shouldn't have any problems bro by the way I understand the concern.
With a 1150ma battery, GPS, "big" screen etc, 3G will just drain the battery even quicker.
I will not worry about 3G until an extended battery is released- and the fact that 3G will not be in my market for a year of so.
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Hey guys i have a htc wing now, and it does not have a gps. It looks like the gps for this phone is one of the main highlights, because it uses it for a lot of applications. Does anyone know what the gps strength will be like? Will it work will in a building, it do i have the be in direct light for like ten minuites to get a signal?
Anyone with a htc device with a gps already, does it work well?
I hear the android is a-gps, so mabye it will have the ability to somewhat work well when in a pocket, or building.....
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Time for a lesson on GPS... It uses satellites in the sky, and you need a view of a certain amount of satellites to find your location (4 will find you but not very accurately, the more the better). If you're in a building, and not right next to a window, no GPS will ever find your location, ever. That's like asking if your internet will work if the ethernet cable is unplugged from the back of your computer and you don't have wifi, it goes against the entire idea of how it functions.
Now, as for the quality of the HTC GPS receiver... People have complained about GPS lag, but I maintain my opinion that it's completely software related, my Fuze had none whatsoever. You don't need to be in sunlight, just have enough clear sky that it can get a reading from the satellites. I've taken trips with the Fuze even on very cloudy days and it took a little longer to get a lock (5-10 mins, it locks in like 30 seconds to a minute with clear skies) but once it had my position, it stayed true. All of the upcoming HTC devices use A-GPS, by the way. Diamond, Touch Pro, Xperia, G1...
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WHAAAT? you dont want to use 3g? lol in my opinion thats 50 percent of the phones features.
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He's using the battery draining as an excuse, something to keep him from pulling his hair out because he won't have 3G for another year. Anyone who's used a phone for data features on both networks knows EDGE doesn't hold a candle to 3G.
As for the original post, yes, it will give you all of the same data features on EDGE as on 3G.
The big thing with A-GPS is that it's mainly used to increase the startup speed of your GPS. Instead of waiting 10 minutes to download the almanac of the satellites in the sky from the GPS sats, it downloads the data over your data connection, using the basis of which cell site you're connected to for determining your rough location. This way it only takes about 30 seconds to get a fix instead of much longer.
The sensitivity of the GPS on phones has been fairly good as far as i've seen on devices like the Tilt and such, so I don't see why a phone with such a heavy emphasis on location-based apps would have a sub-par GPS setup. Here's hoping things work well.
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He's using the battery draining as an excuse, something to keep him from pulling his hair out because he won't have 3G for another year. Anyone who's used a phone for data features on both networks knows EDGE doesn't hold a candle to 3G.
As for the original post, yes, it will give you all of the same data features on EDGE as on 3G.
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Thanks to one and all!!! I am looking forward to my G1 and retiring my Wing.
Black93300ZX said:
He's using the battery draining as an excuse, something to keep him from pulling his hair out because he won't have 3G for another year. Anyone who's used a phone for data features on both networks knows EDGE doesn't hold a candle to 3G.
As for the original post, yes, it will give you all of the same data features on EDGE as on 3G.
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3g doesnt burn that much battery unless your using it constantly like as a primary internet for your computer. also when you put your phone in sleep mode it isnt runnig in the background
haitiankid4lyf said:
3g doesnt burn that much battery unless your using it constantly like as a primary internet for your computer. also when you put your phone in sleep mode it isnt runnig in the background
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Exactly... But when you're without 3G, I guess you try to justify why it's not as good, and that's what he came up with. It's like everything though, people on here try to justify why the iPhone isn't as good as the Diamond/Touch Pro, truth be told it's better in many aspects but comes short in many as well.
3g data transfer?
ok i currently have the tmo wing.. and i can connect my lappy to the tmo data network via usb port.. will i be able to do this with the g1?yes/no maybe?
iife_aint_easy said:
ok i currently have the tmo wing.. and i can connect my lappy to the tmo data network via usb port.. will i be able to do this with the g1?yes/no maybe?
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I choose D... all of the above
No... it will not work out of the box.
Yes/maybe... it should work someday soon unless HTC/T-Mobile have somehow disabled that ability in hardware.
As soon as I get the phone I will be working on it on the Linux side (not an actual internet sharing app... more of a route/iptables script) and I am sure someone will work on a java solution (although a kernel solution would be faster). There was an application for the iPhone that provided internet sharing but it was banned from apple store and Google has said they won't do that so I think it should be here soon.
problems with Wireless (3g and wifi)
does anybody else have problems with the 3g?
i have tmobile and i didnt select the option for only 2g but my 3g keeps going in and out even when im in the same spot it'll go from 3g to Edge for no reason.
also does anybody have problem conecting to wifi?
i have a linksys wireless n (WRT300N) router, the ssid is visible and uts using wep security but when ever i try to connect to it it says out of range or it just stops trying to connect Please Help
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does anybody else have problems with the 3g?
i have tmobile and i didnt select the option for only 2g but my 3g keeps going in and out even when im in the same spot it'll go from 3g to Edge for no reason.
also does anybody have problem conecting to wifi?
i have a linksys wireless n (WRT300N) router, the ssid is visible and uts using wep security but when ever i try to connect to it it says out of range or it just stops trying to connect Please Help
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I have an issue with my G1 WIFI connection. If i broadcast my SSID I connect with no problems. but if i disable the broadcast it will not connect, and this is with me manually putting in the connections into the phone.
I called TMobile but they said i needed to call HTC. they didn't have a solution.
BTW, I have no WEP enabled. I just disable the SSID broadcast.
I just connected to my Linksys router with WPA2 and had 3G running, connected no problem.
Haitiankid: try entering the details of your network manually and seeing if it will connect then. Also, as for the 3G fading in and out, are you in a week signal area for 3G?
wifi working
I got my wifi to work. It was my routers fault. What I did was in went into my routers settings by typing 192.168.1.1 and entered 'admin' (no quotes) and no password. Once in my settings I changed my brocasting type from b&g mixed to all mixed changed frequency to auto, changed network key from shared to open and wifi started working. I don't know if all those steps were neccesary but it worked for me. Hope it works for some else.
As for the 3g it seems to be getting better
for those of you with the 3g/edge switching problem...
Hey, if uve got the 3g switching to edge back and forth continuously, its likely because you didnt get a new SIM card when u got the g1. It simply means you have an old SIM card that doesnt support 3g well, call tmobile up tell them your situation, theyve given most people a free new SIM card thats more compatible.
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Hey, if uve got the 3g switching to edge back and forth continuously, its likely because you didnt get a new SIM card when u got the g1. It simply means you have an old SIM card that doesnt support 3g well, call tmobile up tell them your situation, theyve given most people a free new SIM card thats more compatible.
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I don't think that's the case. I've had the same SIM card since 2000, no problems like this. If any SIM is too old to support 3G, I'd think one made 8 years ago would definitely be the case.
It sounds like he's in a bad coverage area, which could be lots of things. There is a coverage map on the T-Mo website, don't know if it shows 3G. Or it could be the building he's in. My phones have never worked at my grandmother's house. I get full bars on the front porch, and full bars the second I get out the back door, but no signal in the house itself. Even relatives on other networks get little to no coverage inside the house. Probably the really really old insulation and building materials are blocking the signal. At my last apartment I only had a good signal on the corner of my bed, and that disappeared when new neighbors moved in upstairs.
These are radio waves, which aren't foolproof or perfect, they encounter all kinds of interference. Nothings going to be as secure and consistant as a wired connection. Nature of the beast, unfortunately.
haitiankid4lyf said:
I got my wifi to work. It was my routers fault. What I did was in went into my routers settings by typing 192.168.1.1 and entered 'admin' (no quotes) and no password. Once in my settings I changed my brocasting type from b&g mixed to all mixed changed frequency to auto, changed network key from shared to open and wifi started working. I don't know if all those steps were neccesary but it worked for me. Hope it works for some else.
As for the 3g it seems to be getting better
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Careful dude, with the security set to open anyone within range (neighbors, wardrivers, etc.) can use your wifi to get on the internet. Try using WPA or WPA2 security, but leaving it all mixed and frequency at auto.
I run CM7 nightlies on my Tmobile N1. Recently I killed my cable Internet/TV connection at home and have been using the built in WiFi tether for my home devices.
While it typically works great (for free), the data on my N1 will lock up. I have full 3G/HSDPA at my house. Using #*#*4636*#*# it states I am connected but fails to ping or load up any data on the phone or through its shared connection.
The only way to fix the problem is to toggle airplane mode and re-enable the WiFi Tether or sometimes a reset is required.
I've changed to several Gingerbread roms, flashed various radios, and even exchanged SIM cards.
Is this behavior normal or not? For regular web surfing I can live with it, but the main problem is that I cannot download anything without it getting interrupted (like updated nightlies or 50mb+ files).
Bumpity
No one has any problems with their WiFi sharing?
i used my phones internet as my regular home internet for a month. i used up about 25 gigs. i streamed videos, downloaded videos and podcasts with no interruptions. don't know what your problem could be. i was using cyan 6.1.1
I occasionally have experienced that issue, but it seems as if you have it much more frequently than I ever did. I would mainly get it when I tethered from areas with bad reception.
You state that you have full 3G/HSPA at your house. I am wondering how many bars of reception you happen to have. Also, try setting your phone to WCDMA Only in that 4636 menu. That seemed to decrease the frequency at which it happened for me.
I also found that once in a while, I could get tethered data working again by simply using the phone's native web browser to access any data. Good luck with the issue.
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While it typically works great (for free), the data on my N1 will lock up. I have full 3G/HSDPA at my house. Using #*#*4636*#*# it states I am connected but fails to ping or load up any data on the phone or through its shared connection.
The only way to fix the problem is to toggle airplane mode and re-enable the WiFi Tether or sometimes a reset is required.
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I typically have full bars of signal usually reading around -100dbm. When the internet drops, it drops completely; maps, browser, apps, etc all fail and I can't "jump start" it other then toggling airplane mode or resetting the phone. Typically a reset is best.
Perhaps I'll flash back to CM 6.1 and test it over the weekend. I'll do a backup of my current setup if things aren't fixed.
The purpose of this thread was simply to see if others have experienced the same issues and if it was worth "trying" to fix.
It might be a case of overheating device - it'll be good to test different ROMs and kernels.
I don't think the device is over heating at all rather then just a carrier issue. I flashed to CM 6.1.1 over the weekend and immediately found I was still having data issues (where it would work for like 5 minutes then drop out).
I did find that EDGE was a solid connection and stayed connected while I downloaded CM7 and GAPPS. I put a call into Tmobile and yacked at them for several hours. They escalated it up several times in their engineering department and so we'll see. I spoke to HTC a few times in there and they didn't think it was a handset problem either.
I guess we can close this thread as it doesn't seem to be a wide spread problem. I am running a stable version of CM7 now and we'll see.
@above: I have tested different radios, roms, and kernels. This thread started out as a issue with WiFi Tethering but ended up being the phone simply dropping its data connection. I originally was curious if this wifi sharing behavior was normal or not.
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I put a call into Tmobile and yacked at them for several hours. They escalated it up several times in their engineering department and so we'll see.
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+1 for this part..
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Hi everyone,
I've searched around the forums about wifi connectivity issues on the Touchpad running CM7, and while I've found some similar scenarios, I'm not sure if they are the same issue I'm having.
The wifi signal on my TP is incredibly weak. Unless I'm in the same room as my wifi router, signal strength always teeters on low to unusable. I've tried all the tricks I could find on these forums, changing wifi channels, using Wireless-G only, using wireless-N only, wide channels, standard channels, No security, WEP security, WPA2 security, even moving the router to another part of the house. However, the signal strength is still incredibly unreliable on my TP.
In comparison, my iPhone, both laptops, and 3 desktop computers all connect with great signal in any place around the house.
I'm currently using Xronified v2.9 ROM, and I've also tested this on CM7 Alpha 3.5. Both OSes could barely maintain a connection if they got a signal at all. WebOS has a stronger signal, but not even full bars when I'm in an adjacent room to the router. That seems strange to me.
Can anyone confirm or deny that they have similar issues with wireless strength? I'm asking to see if the TP is like this by design, or if I have a dud TP that I should get replaced by HP. I even tried opening the casing and reseating the wifi antennas with no success. I've also ordered a new dual band router to see if that will make any difference. But that will only help when I'm at home, it won't help when I go anywhere else.
Any advice would be appreciated, and if I somehow missed a similar thread that exists, my apologies for double posting. Thank you everyone for your support!
The wifi driver in android still has issues but webos shiuld work fine for wifi. I get about the same wifi signal as my droid3.
Thanks for the info, I was worried that my device was defective. I will keep waiting until updates fix this, (which I hope is soon, it's difficult to use a tablet without internet access).
At work, we have 2 WIFI networks. ????-WIFI and ????-Guest
I have NEVER connected to -Guest, and nobody here even knows what the password is. It's never used.
Randomly, my phone will disconnect from -WIFI and attempt to connect to -Guest, and it fails authentication every time.
I need to go into network settings and forget the network.
Nobody else has this issue.
This has happened on multiple roms, radios, etc.
Majority of the office runs Android. I'm the only one with a Nexus 6.
It's especially aggravating since I use Tasker to control my phones volume when connected to -WIFI
It's an IT company so we're not unfamiliar with technology. We're all out of ideas!
Anyone able to shed some light on this?
How many access points do you have in the office? Unplug each one, one by one, and see if one of them is broadcasting that signal. How close are you to other buildings or offices similar to yours? Could be receiving signal from near by.
There might be some apps in the play store that will give you signal strength readings so you can try and narrow it down to see the general directions of where it's coming from.
I've ran into that same issue at the company I work with and it does get annoying when you have multiple WiFi networks on your WAPs. This issue occurred more frequently when we had sonicpoints managing our WiFi. But when we switched to Ubiquiti WAPs, I still had the issue, but it was less frequent than a everyday thing. I've been looking online to see what can cause this problem because a lot of the people who work for the company I work with have iPhones and they never have this problem. Unfortunately I'm not entirely sure what could be causing this problem and I'm not sure if it's a issue specific to Lollipop, but hopefully this issue does get solved because it's frustrating and I definitely feel your pain on this...
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How many access points do you have in the office? Unplug each one, one by one, and see if one of them is broadcasting that signal. How close are you to other buildings or offices similar to yours? Could be receiving signal from near by.
There might be some apps in the play store that will give you signal strength readings so you can try and narrow it down to see the general directions of where it's coming from.
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Only one access point, broadcasting 2 SSIDs. It's an Aruba. We are near other offices, but rarely see other networks. Signal is too weak to see them consistently with my phone.
Quick note, both of the SSID's are WPA2, with different keys.
It's our network that this is happening on, just can't figure out WHY it's happening. Doesn't make any sense. I've never even attempted to connect to it.
May be irrelevant but turn off always scan for networks.
I did a full wipe on my phone today, go into WIFI settings, and -Guest had "Saved" under it.
Fresh wipe! Maybe 2 hours on the install. Google Connectivity Services is not installed.
Have been enjoying my brand new Oneplus 3T for exactly a week now. I switched from Oneplus One because I was tired of how poor the GPS lock is (If I recall correctly it starts to be problematic since Android 6). I was hoping that Oneplus 3T has better GPS lock & tracking, turns out it is more or less the same.
The GPS seems to be very accurate and working as it supposed to when you are not navigating, i.e. geotagging photos, checking in places with social media applications, or just opening navigation application but not navigating with them. But as soon as you start navigating, I had "No GPS signal" every few seconds and it is often confused where I am.
Anyone here experiencing the same problem with GPS? I'm on Oxygen OS 4.1.0.
Yep, I have the same problem I wonder if there will ever be a fix?
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Yep, I have the same problem I wonder if there will ever be a fix?
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Are you on 3G? I found out that GPS works perfectly on 4G and 2G.
I have the same issues. If this software or hardware problems? 2g 3g 4g have effect on gps too?
I usually use waze, but it's keep loosing signal.
This is so anoyying.
lotharient said:
I have the same issues. If this software or hardware problems? 2g 3g 4g have effect on gps too?
I usually use waze, but it's keep loosing signal.
This is so anoyying.
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Surprisingly yes. I read somewhere in the Oneplus forums that one member solved his problem by switching to 4G or 2G. I didn'ton't believe it at first but it turned out to be real.