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My brother rooted his Captivate 6 months ago or more. He kept the stock ROM, and now would like to try a custom ROM. Unfortunately, he doesn't remember much about what he did. He said he downloaded a program, plugged in his phone, and it rooted him.
I assumed that I should be able to boot into recovery and flash a ROM from there. I looked up how to boot into recovery, and tried the 'hold down vol/up and power on' approach. Instead of a recovery menu, it goes directly to some kind of update screen with this text:
movi-check start..!!
... <lines removed>
install default apk files please wait
I've searched for these lines, and cannot find why this is coming up. I did find that this should have ended with a message that the install finished, but after leaving it for 10 minutes, it seemed to just reboot. Perhaps the message did come up, and then it immediately rebooted.
Does anyone know why the phone is in this state where there is no recovery menu? If I install ROM Manager and flash ClockworkMod is that likely to work and not cause harm?
Need a little more info... is it stock 2.1 or 2.2? If it's Froyo 2.2 then the stock recovery is tricky to get around if you're new to flashing or modding.
jack man said:
Need a little more info... is it stock 2.1 or 2.2? If it's Froyo 2.2 then the stock recovery is tricky to get around if you're new to flashing or modding.
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Thanks. It is stock 2.2.
I am not new to flashing, and I'm comfortable with adb and other tools. I'm just not familiar with the Samsung Captivate.
Is the screen that comes up with 'movi_check' the stock recovery? it appears to be automatically trying to update something.
Probably just be easier to use Odin to flash stock 2.1 and root and get recovery on it. Then you can flash any (2.2) ROM you want on it, or you could use Odin or Heimdall to flash Gingerbread onto it (recommended). There are tutorials all in the development section.
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Reamer09 said:
Probably just be easier to use Odin to flash stock 2.1 and root and get recovery on it. Then you can flash any (2.2) ROM you want on it, or you could use Odin or Heimdall to flash Gingerbread onto it (recommended). There are tutorials all in the development section.
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If its a newer build it wont like 2.1 (alot of newer builds bootloop with 2.1). If your captivate is one of the newer builds and has the 3e recovery here is a guide to get past it.
As to flashing Gb you will need GB bootloaders wich carries risk. Please READ on how too and risk that may happen. Its a small risk but you can hard brick the phone if you mess up bootloaders or if the booloader fails to flash.
Another option is flashing KB1 2.2 froyo and using Desing Gear's Cog 4.x.x kernel. You will have clock work mod. There's a ton of ways to do it most of wich are in the forums already so search and if you have doubts ask
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If its a newer build it wont like 2.1 (alot of newer builds bootloop with 2.1). If your captivate is one of the newer builds and has the 3e recovery here is a guide to get past it.
As to flashing Gb you will need GB bootloaders wich carries risk. Please READ on how too and risk that may happen. Its a small risk but you can hard brick the phone if you mess up bootloaders or if the booloader fails to flash.
Another option is flashing KB1 2.2 froyo and using Desing Gear's Cog 4.x.x kernel. You will have clock work mod. There's a ton of ways to do it most of wich are in the forums already so search and if you have doubts ask
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It crossed my mind that newer builds wouldn't like 2.1, but I wasn't 100%, that's why I recommended going to GB. Just reading the instructions a few times and being prepared the risk is very low to hard brick. Just make sure to know exactly what you're doing when you choose which files for the primary and secondary boot loaders.
But said person is asking info on something as simple as rooting, Hence there are easier less evasive ways to get past 3e.
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But said person is asking info on something as simple as rooting, Hence there are easier less evasive ways to get past 3e.
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Just to clarify, I'm not asking about rooting, but about flashing and the recovery console. I'm an EVO user, and I just don't know the idiosyncrasies of the Captivate.
Am I correct that the messages I get when trying to go to recovery (starting with movi_check start) are normal, and that after those messages I should get the recovery console? If so, it seems to be stuck on the "install default apk files please wait" step, as this doesn't seem to complete.
I do see the steps on how to flash, and can follow them carefully, but since I am not getting the recovery console, I am not sure what might be wrong.
glenwill said:
Just to clarify, I'm not asking about rooting, but about flashing and the recovery console. I'm an EVO user, and I just don't know the idiosyncrasies of the Captivate.
Am I correct that the messages I get when trying to go to recovery (starting with movi_check start) are normal, and that after those messages I should get the recovery console? If so, it seems to be stuck on the "install default apk files please wait" step, as this doesn't seem to complete.
I do see the steps on how to flash, and can follow them carefully, but since I am not getting the recovery console, I am not sure what might be wrong.
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You can't flash a rom with stock recovery. You need clockwork mod wich can be achieve by using rom manager (needs root) or flashign with Odin a kernel that has it built in
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You can't flash a rom with stock recovery. You need clockwork mod wich can be achieve by using rom manager (needs root) or flashign with Odin a kernel that has it built in
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Thanks for your help. I do understand I can't flash with stock recovery.
Both the 'Read BEFORE flashing' and the 'How to Install a custom ROM' guides instruct to install clockwork mod. I am aware that installing a new recovery needs to be done before flashing on probably any device.
I guess my primary confusion was whether the 'movi_check start' verbage is normal to see when I am trying to go to Recovery before installing Clockwork. Another google search finally found a hit that says it is normal to see this. I'm still not clear whether I should be concerned that it hangs on the "install default apk files" step.
Since it hangs, I don't ever get any kind of recovery menu, so it wasn't obvious to me that I was actually in the stock recovery.
Assuming this doesn't indicate any issues, I'll proceed with the instructions and all should be well.
Well I hope you are able to work it out. ^^
I have an AT&T Captivate with the official 2.2 on it. I'm rooted, but that's as far as I've gone with it. I'd like to try out this ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1363760
From what I understand, I need to flash Clockwork Recovery for Captivate (MTD). But ROM Manager doesn't seem to be able to do that; it asks me if I have it already, which seems to mean that I'm supposed to get it from another source. I tried ignoring the warning as the thread I linked to says, but it just reboots into Samsung's recovery.
Where exactly can I find this recovery on my own?
Noo you just need clockwork recovery thats it. It will do the rest. Mind you this rom is in early dev, and I wouldn't recommend it for ppl that are starting out. I would recommend I9000 Gb ports or I897 leaks. Or a more stable GB AOSP like nightlies or the stable release from CyanogenMod team.
i totally agree with bass. go with something like cm7 or a leaked beta. in rom manager, when it asks if you have it already, say no, so you can install it. if you check my created threads i have a basic tool that will help you get to a leaked official captivate gngerbread rom as well as CWM. since you are on froyo you will need to use the one with the boot loaders so make sure you have a good battery charge. trust me, i speak from experience, its well worth the time it takes to wait for the charge. otherwise you end up with $500 paperweight.
I'm kinda set on that ICS one I linked to.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1202673
if I start with that, can I then reboot into recovery and install the ICS rom I linked to?
You don't know how to use cwm or to root yet you want to try a rom in early dev that might give you a TON of issues. Don't get me wrong Im running build 10 and apart from random lag and under par battery life its been acting fine. Just saying you should be able to figure it out if you are thinking about that specific rom.
The Captivate is the only one that seems to require a special recovery for Cyanogen ROMs from what I understand. I want to make sure I'm doing this right.
and yes, I'd like to start with that ROM.
...actually, did you even read my post at all? I say right in the beginning I'm rooted, but you say that I don't know how to root?
Easy brother bass was not trying to low blow here. He was just making an observation from past experience. The early dev roms can be tricky little buggers to get loaded and running right. I too speak from experience I have had some nasty boot loops and or soft brick of my phone. I don't know about your past but if this is your first custom rom flash you may want to practice a bit before taking on an early stage rom.
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Easy brother bass was not trying to low blow here. He was just making an observation from past experience. The early dev roms can be tricky little buggers to get loaded and running right. I too speak from experience I have had some nasty boot loops and or soft brick of my phone. I don't know about your past but if this is your first custom rom flash you may want to practice a bit before taking on an early stage rom.
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I agree, you should start off with something more stable to get used to flashing. The other day when build 10 came out I flashed just like I have been doing by performing a Dalvik and cache wipe then flashing the ROM and I ended up not getting past the splash screen. I had to take the phone back to stock, flash CM7 and then go back to ICS. For some reason in the process I lost 3 button combo so I had to use the ADB for reboots.
The point is take some time and learn from the beginning, don't just jump right in to the middle it will make your life easier in the long run.
Sent from this fully armed and operational battle station running ICS.
Sorry, it's just weird for him to say "you don't even know how to root" when that's the first thing I said about my phone...
I guess you've got a point. Maybe I'll start with something else.
If I wanted to start with CM7, could I start with this recovery: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1202673
I would recommend ODIN, its much much easier. First off does your phone 3 button combos work? If not I would recommend flashing a 1 click GB rom w/ bootloaders. and then use a kernel like Boog's to flash cwm. If your 3 button works just flash any kernel with cwm and flash from that. In both cases make sure you have all the necessary .zips in your internal SD card.
The simple answer is you need to replace your stock recovery with a modified 2e or 3e recovery that clockworkmod is compatible with.
Since you are on 2.1, I believe you will need the 2e, but it may be easier for you to Odin to froyo and use a 3e recovery instead.
heres a video on how to do it.
here is the link for a modded 3e recovery file that you can download. that should take care of your problem if not let me know.
make sure to follow directions from video. after replacing this recovery file you should be able to flash clockworkmod thru rom manager just make sure to boot into recovery from rom manager if the stock recovery still shows up you may have to select the option to update packages from stock recovery once or twice to get cwm to take.
these directions have been used on both my captivate and my buddy's fascinate with no problems.
popodopolus said:
The simple answer is you need to replace your stock recovery with a modified 2e or 3e recovery that clockworkmod is compatible with.
Since you are on 2.1, I believe you will need the 2e, but it may be easier for you to Odin to froyo and use a 3e recovery instead.
heres a video on how to do it.
here is the link for a modded 3e recovery file that you can download. that should take care of your problem if not let me know.
make sure to follow directions from video. after replacing this recovery file you should be able to flash clockworkmod thru rom manager just make sure to boot into recovery from rom manager if the stock recovery still shows up you may have to select the option to update packages from stock recovery once or twice to get cwm to take.
these directions have been used on both my captivate and my buddy's fascinate with no problems.
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Wtf?
2.1 didn't require anything special for recovery. Update.Zip on sdcard and you are good. You damn sure don't replace recovery2e with anything else and it damn sure is not easier to use recovery3e.
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popodopolus said:
The simple answer is you need to replace your stock recovery with a modified 2e or 3e recovery that clockworkmod is compatible with.
Since you are on 2.1, I believe you will need the 2e, but it may be easier for you to Odin to froyo and use a 3e recovery instead.
heres a video on how to do it.
here is the link for a modded 3e recovery file that you can download. that should take care of your problem if not let me know.
make sure to follow directions from video. after replacing this recovery file you should be able to flash clockworkmod thru rom manager just make sure to boot into recovery from rom manager if the stock recovery still shows up you may have to select the option to update packages from stock recovery once or twice to get cwm to take.
these directions have been used on both my captivate and my buddy's fascinate with no problems.
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Uh no.... If he is on 2.1 and iss on 2e why in God's name would you want to flash 3e? In the end of the day why the hell don't you just flash a kernel with it baked in? (if you really want to flash something that is.)
Also DO NOT,by all that is holy, use Rom Manager. Its useless on our Galaxy S phones (not knocking on the dev, its brilliant for HTC's and Motorolas).
Sorry I miss typed he is on froyo so the links that I gave him will get the job done
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If he is on 2.2 its better for him to just flash a kernel with it baked. Gives him CWM + all the great tweaks.
How to upgrade P1000 to ICS using custom rom with
out a PC?
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gingerbread.
I presume it was not rooted and has no custom recovery either?
well if you are rooted on a stock rom and have a valid Custom Recovery - such as overcome team, you can actually do it using GOO MANAGER (Available via Play Store - Or Market). Still, you need to be very careful not to brick your tab. You need at to read and follow threads on ICS (CM9 based). You should also understand that ICS has 2 different systems.. therefore read about what MTD is and EXT is.
If you are NOT rooted, and do not have Custom Recovery -- (Or don't even know what they mean).. it's like asking how to turn a Stone into a Diamond.
the pre-requisite of installing ICS on P1000 is (Learn it by heart):
1. Rooting
2. Install a custom Recovery (or you can install Overcome Kernel).
3. Understand about: RFS, EXT, and MTD.
4. Read threads by the CM9 team.
When you have done all those, you are ready to install. The only time you will need to use ODIN is when you install Overcome Kernel.
Note: Step 1 and 2 can be replaced by installing GB Stock Safe ROM on Overcome Team website. -- search around for it on the DEV forum.
Downloading the ICS ROM, and even flashing it can be done from GOO Manager (on your tab).
yeah.... i have rooted my phone,
priyana said:
I presume it was not rooted and has no custom recovery either?
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Yes!!! My phone is rooted
yes!! i have root!!
yappoe said:
well if you are rooted on a stock rom and have a valid Custom Recovery - such as overcome team, you can actually do it using GOO MANAGER (Available via Play Store - Or Market). Still, you need to be very careful not to brick your tab. You need at to read and follow threads on ICS (CM9 based). You should also understand that ICS has 2 different systems.. therefore read about what MTD is and EXT is.
If you are NOT rooted, and do not have Custom Recovery -- (Or don't even know what they mean).. it's like asking how to turn a Stone into a Diamond.
the pre-requisite of installing ICS on P1000 is (Learn it by heart):
1. Rooting
2. Install a custom Recovery (or you can install Overcome Kernel).
3. Understand about: RFS, EXT, and MTD.
4. Read threads by the CM9 team.
When you have done all those, you are ready to install. The only time you will need to use ODIN is when you install Overcome Kernel.
Note: Step 1 and 2 can be replaced by installing GB Stock Safe ROM on Overcome Team website. -- search around for it on the DEV forum.
Downloading the ICS ROM, and even flashing it can be done from GOO Manager (on your tab).
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Haha!! Turning rock into a diamond!! Funny
Thanks! I have rroot and I have read the threads at the development section,
And I have read in the AOKP 4.0.4 to go to overcome web page, which is my problem....
I do not understand what do I have to do in the overcome website.
I believe I currently have a stock ROM installed gingerbread 2.3.3
What I do next??
If you are already rooted, what you actually need to do is just download the Overcome Kernel on the website and flash it (and if I remember correctly, you will need to use ODIN on this -- but trust me it's not as difficult as it sounds -- in fact it will be over in less than 3 minutes).
Next,
If you are thinking of installing the AOKP, you can't get that from GOO Manager.
You will need to download the zip file from AOKP thread to your phone - can be done directly without PC, and flash you from CWM recovery menu (Power + Volume Up)
on the recovery menu, select "Install from SD Card".
Please remember to backup everything before installing new ROM.
Please Don't forget to do Factory Wipe and Cache Wipe before flashing. (I remember they have it in their scripts, but better safe than sorry).
During install of the latest build (MTD), you will be in a loop and your tab would seem to be bricked.. just reboot it back to the recovery menu, and redo the install. (it's specified in the threads if you read carefully).
You will enjoy your new ICS, as if you just bought a new tablet.
--Sorry for the early joke -- I do have a weird sense of humor
thanks pal!!!
yappoe said:
If you are already rooted, what you actually need to do is just download the Overcome Kernel on the website and flash it (and if I remember correctly, you will need to use ODIN on this -- but trust me it's not as difficult as it sounds -- in fact it will be over in less than 3 minutes).
Next,
If you are thinking of installing the AOKP, you can't get that from GOO Manager.
You will need to download the zip file from AOKP thread to your phone - can be done directly without PC, and flash you from CWM recovery menu (Power + Volume Up)
on the recovery menu, select "Install from SD Card".
Please remember to backup everything before installing new ROM.
Please Don't forget to do Factory Wipe and Cache Wipe before flashing. (I remember they have it in their scripts, but better safe than sorry).
During install of the latest build (MTD), you will be in a loop and your tab would seem to be bricked.. just reboot it back to the recovery menu, and redo the install. (it's specified in the threads if you read carefully).
You will enjoy your new ICS, as if you just bought a new tablet.
--Sorry for the early joke -- I do have a weird sense of humor
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Hey again...... hahaha
I like to know if I flashed the overcome kernel, I will have the ICS instantly?? Without doing anything else??
And I would like to know also about the GOO manager and how do I have ics with that thanks!!!
Restock?
Do i have to restock?
No and no.
You don't get ics by flashing overcome.
No you should not need restock. Although it is preferred to restock using overcome package
But you need a PC since you need Odin.
Basically
1) restock or have a good base gb rom.
2) use Odin to flash just overcome kernel.
3) boot into cwm recovery that is included in overcome kernel.
4) flash aokp or cm9 from sdcard using cwm
5) flash gapps.
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@priyana
Thank you very much!!!!!!
Now my mind's clear!!
Can I use the mobile version Odin? I found it on the play storw.
I have never used it. If it is as good as it advertise then it should do the job.
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Btw,
If you need overcome guide and missing the images on the website,
Look at this post.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=20974872
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I downloaded it just now and it looks like it will work! Ill go ahead and give it a try!!
Hey!! It works!!! Now I flashed the overcome kernel & i now have cwm recovery! Thanks!
(i used the mobile ODIN)
Then? What do I do next? Which do u prefer? AOKP or the CM9 ROM?
congrats.
Very encouraging indeed. I might consider getting mobile Odin, to escape the hassle of using a PC too. Nice find.
I am on AOKP Milestone #5.
But it seems like CM9 has quite a few things going now, like a deep sleep thing that save batts, and also there is a Pdroid patch for it, that won't work with AOKP.
But AOKP has nice ROM Control tweaks.
Your pick.
Remember to put them on sdcard together with gapps.
One thing you should note:
when you flash the ICS package, your tab will reboot to recovery again (some mistook it as a brick-like boot loop). It is actually booting into the recovery that comes with the the ICS flash.
It will be slightly different from the Overcome one,
and the external sd will be called internal sd instead. (at least that is what I found in AOKP, but I think both uses Humberos CWM recovery).
So choose to flash from "internal sd" even though it is external.
then after flash complete, flash the gapps.
Thank you, thank u sooooo much!! Haha
hey, i decided 2 go w/ the AOKP ROM.
which should I download?
The milestone 5 ROM?
or the build #33 ROM?
And what is gapps?
milestone #5 of course. that is the latest.
gapps is google apps: google Play Store, Google Finance, (used to be google Maps and Gmail, but more and more being made available via Play)
Google forbids people packaging their apps into a ROM unless it is mod of stock rom that already has it (like overcome is a mod if JQ1 rom).
You can find links to gapps in Stimp0z first post.
Do read the first 3 post and revisit it again later as it made more sense after you have played with AOKP for a while. That will avoid unnecessarily asking noob questions in the thread.
You can also get gapps from here
http://goo.im/gapps/
look for the gapps-ics-......
naturally grab the latest, but in fact older one is fine, and will likely get updated by Play once you are online.
Thank you priyana 4 ur help & support!
I will do the update now w/ AOKP Milestone 5 & update u later if it is sucessful or it bricked my tab!!!
Bye 4 now )
Heyyyy. Im DOWNLOADING the AOKP ROM many times, but its unsucessful!! What should I do?
Is it because you are downloading straight to tab.
Maybe the cache space not enough.
Better download on a PC and put to sdcard.
Anyway, hold back a day or two.
Build #35 coming.
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I was running on froyo before I started process, and now I cannot boot up. This is what I did:
First I used the step 1 in the cyanogenmod wiki (http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/Samsung_Captivate:_Full_Update_Guide) to install the ClockworkMod Recovery, everything is fine, until the final reboot step. after the ATT screen, the screen get into total unrecognized mode, and the unit will restart, and so on and on, in a loop.
Then I tried to use the speedmod-K13E with GB bootloader one click, and I still can't get into the system, but now it just stuck at the Galaxy S samsung screen, after the ATT screen, and no loop, just stuck.
Any suggesstions? Is there a stock rom I can restore back to using the external sd card? the internal sd card currently only has the cyanogenmod 9 on it. I have going through the different posts for the past two days, got really confused. If someone can point me to a step by step guide, or something similiar, really appericiated.
BTW, the recovery mode has the following:"ClockworkMod Recovery v2.5.1.0 SpeedMod ULFK
I'm on windows 7 32bit. And I donot need to save any data on the phone. It can be wipe clean.
Did u try rebooting into cwm recovery and try to re install the rom again ?
U may need GB bootloaders as well for cm 9 (?? I'm not sure though)
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If you still want to run cm9 try flashing a more recent kernel inn recovery. look in the Dev section for glitch kernel or devil kernel (i like devil) they have a more recent version of cwm that should work. I haven't used this method with cm9 but it worked with aokp.
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well.. my advice is try reflashing to the stock rom using the one click in this thread [Stock ROMs](OneClicks Master Collection)+[Kernels (Stock & w/ CWM)]+[Modems] UPDATED
(kk4 reccomended)
download one of the odin one click there, and flash your rom back to stock gingerbread, oh yeah, choose the rom without the bootloader.
if that doesn't get you anywhere, please reply to my post.
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I was running on froyo before I started process, and now I cannot boot up. This is what I did:
First I used the step 1 in the cyanogenmod wiki (http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/Samsung_Captivate:_Full_Update_Guide) to install the ClockworkMod Recovery, everything is fine, until the final reboot step. after the ATT screen, the screen get into total unrecognized mode, and the unit will restart, and so on and on, in a loop.
Then I tried to use the speedmod-K13E with GB bootloader one click, and I still can't get into the system, but now it just stuck at the Galaxy S samsung screen, after the ATT screen, and no loop, just stuck.
Any suggesstions? Is there a stock rom I can restore back to using the external sd card? the internal sd card currently only has the cyanogenmod 9 on it. I have going through the different posts for the past two days, got really confused. If someone can point me to a step by step guide, or something similiar, really appericiated.
BTW, the recovery mode has the following:"ClockworkMod Recovery v2.5.1.0 SpeedMod ULFK
I'm on windows 7 32bit. And I donot need to save any data on the phone. It can be wipe clean.
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You should be good to go. You should be on GB bootloaders. Just reflash CM9 in CWM.
Solved.
For some unknown reason, I can net get ODIN to communication with my device, I tried multiple device, and it seems ODIN just does not work.
I used the 3rd post in your link, with Heimdall I successfully installed the KK4 and then I used the cyanogenmod wiki again, this times it works. It seems the old stock rom won't work for the wiki, must use the new stock rom.
Thanks for all the helps, guys.
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well.. my advice is try reflashing to the stock rom using the one click in this thread [Stock ROMs](OneClicks Master Collection)+[Kernels (Stock & w/ CWM)]+[Modems] UPDATED
(kk4 reccomended)
download one of the odin one click there, and flash your rom back to stock gingerbread, oh yeah, choose the rom without the bootloader.
if that doesn't get you anywhere, please reply to my post.
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lan_baba said:
Solved.
For some unknown reason, I can net get ODIN to communication with my device, I tried multiple device, and it seems ODIN just does not work.
I used the 3rd post in your link, with Heimdall I successfully installed the KK4 and then I used the cyanogenmod wiki again, this times it works. It seems the old stock rom won't work for the wiki, must use the new stock rom.
Thanks for all the helps, guys.
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you're welcome,
glad i can help
Before I begin, yes... I did search and look through a few threads with similar titles but did not find my problem.
I am not a phone geek and I am new to all this, but I rooted my Note along with a "Franco kernel", which worked successfully. My phone booted up as it was before (in fact I noticed absolutely no difference in my phone, whatsoever).
The problems begun when I tried to install an "Abyss" kernel via CWM, which apparently installed successfully, but the phone would never get past boot-up (not so successful after all, huh?). I realized that it wasn't going to work, so I though no problem, and went back into CWM and re-installed the Franco kernel that I was using before (which worked). Strangely, this kernel, too, would now no longer boot.
I successfully restored the phone with a GB rom via odin (teriible rom), and proceeded to install the so-called "Hydracore" kernel (love the names) via cwm.... this kernel made things even worse. Once again the installation was supposedly "successful", but the phone doesn't go past boot. This time, it gets stuck on a very dim black screen, which isn't actually black, it is a dark creamy/pink hue that you can only notice in absolute darkness. (WTF?) This screen has random black blotches on it, but again, if you are in a lit up room the screen looks completely black and you cannot tell that it is actually lit. When I say that this kernel made the problems even worse, I say that because when this happens (dim black screen), I cannot even enter CWM recovery at all to try and install a different kernel. From here, I can only access download mode, and have no choice but to restore the phone with the GB rom via odin. I did so, and proceeded to install the latest version of "Hydracore" (v5.4) posted right here on XDA by the member 'chasmodo.' This time, I did the installation of the kernel via odin, which, once again, was supposedly successful... and once again a lie, as the phone just goes into the same black screen, with no option other than download mode.
The sole reason I have wasted hours of my life researching and understanding mobile phone terminology in the past few days is so that I can have jellybean on my Note. It seems that I am unable to do this because the Kernels are not working on my device. I have a very powerful and capable phone, which is currently stuck on this GB rom (which I think has to be the most terrible piece of coding ever made) so any help on this would be immensely appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
can you try go back to stock GB rom.. then upgrade to ICS and root using Dr Ketans method and then install Hydracore
You flashed Hydracore on GB rom? that's the main reason behind your problem, this Kernel is not for GB. Now either flash custom GB kernel or flash stock GB firmware using pc odin and then root it. Check post # 2 in this thread for rooting. (I guess you know how to do this )
Once you have root and cwm recovery, you can flash any custom rom you want.
jeetu1981 said:
You flashed Hydracore on GB rom? that's the main reason behind your problem, this Kernel is not for GB. Now either flash custom GB kernel or flash stock GB firmware using pc odin and then root it. Check post # 2 in this thread for rooting. (I guess you know how to do this )
Once you have root and cwm recovery, you can flash any custom rom you want.
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Hot damn you guys are quick!
Silly me! :silly:
If I install any GB kernal can I then install CM10?
S-pen said:
Before I begin, yes... I did search and look through a few threads with similar titles but did not find my problem.
I am not a phone geek and I am new to all this, but I rooted my Note along with a "Franco kernel", which worked successfully. My phone booted up as it was before (in fact I noticed absolutely no difference in my phone, whatsoever).
The problems begun when I tried to install an "Abyss" kernel via CWM, which apparently installed successfully, but the phone would never get past boot-up (not so successful after all, huh?). I realized that it wasn't going to work, so I though no problem, and went back into CWM and re-installed the Franco kernel that I was using before (which worked). Strangely, this kernel, too, would now no longer boot.
I successfully restored the phone with a GB rom via odin (teriible rom), and proceeded to install the so-called "Hydracore" kernel (love the names) via cwm.... this kernel made things even worse. Once again the installation was supposedly "successful", but the phone doesn't go past boot. This time, it gets stuck on a very dim black screen, which isn't actually black, it is a dark creamy/pink hue that you can only notice in absolute darkness. (WTF?) This screen has random black blotches on it, but again, if you are in a lit up room the screen looks completely black and you cannot tell that it is actually lit. When I say that this kernel made the problems even worse, I say that because when this happens (dim black screen), I cannot even enter CWM recovery at all to try and install a different kernel. From here, I can only access download mode, and have no choice but to restore the phone with the GB rom via odin. I did so, and proceeded to install the latest version of "Hydracore" (v5.4) posted right here on XDA by the member 'chasmodo.' This time, I did the installation of the kernel via odin, which, once again, was supposedly successful... and once again a lie, as the phone just goes into the same black screen, with no option other than download mode.
The sole reason I have wasted hours of my life researching and understanding mobile phone terminology in the past few days is so that I can have jellybean on my Note. It seems that I am unable to do this because the Kernels are not working on my device. I have a very powerful and capable phone, which is currently stuck on this GB rom (which I think has to be the most terrible piece of coding ever made) so any help on this would be immensely appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
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Hi there, sorry to hear of your challenges.
One thing to remember before flashing is the nature of safe / unsafe kernels. Equally as important is compatible / non compatible kernels. It's not clear from your post but did you flash Abyss on an ICS ROM? If so, Abyss is a GB kernel. It will install but the ROM wont run due to lack of compatibility.
Abyss is used by many as a Safe kernel, a base to flash a new ROM from . Alternatively, it can be used to "downgrade" to Gingerbread ROMs.
If you are intent on trying a JB ROM, I would suggest a doing a full wipe (use the numerous guides on XDA) and a kernel clean (jBroid Script Cleaner for example). Now, research Chasmodo's excellent Kernel Repository and choose a kernel. Hydracore 4.3 Standard is a good "benchmark" however you could try the Official CM10 kernel from Entropy. Reboot to Recovery and flash your JB ROM of choice.
You will now have "Full Wiped" (including Script Clean), installed a Safe (Compatible) Kernel and flashed a compatible ROM.
For what its worth, I found GB to be an excellent ROM, particularly 2.3.6 and 2.3.7. CheckROM was one of my favorite ROMs on the S2 and they didnt even feel the need (till recently) to make an ICS version.
I hope this helps. Please hit THANKS if it did.
Alba Donzo said:
Hi there, sorry to hear of your challenges.
One thing to remember before flashing is the nature of safe / unsafe kernels. Equally as important is compatible / non compatible kernels. It's not clear from your post but did you flash Abyss on an ICS ROM? If so, Abyss is a GB kernel. It will install but the ROM wont run due to lack of compatibility.
Abyss is used by many as a Safe kernel, a base to flash a new ROM from . Alternatively, it can be used to "downgrade" to Gingerbread ROMs.
If you are intent on trying a JB ROM, I would suggest a doing a full wipe (use the numerous guides on XDA) and a kernel clean (jBroid Script Cleaner for example). Now, research Chasmodo's excellent Kernel Repository and choose a kernel. Hydracore 4.3 Standard is a good "benchmark" however you could try the Official CM10 kernel from Entropy. Reboot to Recovery and flash your JB ROM of choice.
You will now have "Full Wiped" (including Script Clean), installed a Safe (Compatible) Kernel and flashed a compatible ROM.
For what its worth, I found GB to be an excellent ROM, particularly 2.3.6 and 2.3.7. CheckROM was one of my favorite ROMs on the S2 and they didnt even feel the need (till recently) to make an ICS version.
I hope this helps. Please hit THANKS if it did.
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Yes, I forgot to mention that when I rooted it I was running official 4.0.3 which I got OTA. After I rooted I tried the Abyss kernel. I had read that if you try and install CM10 straight from ICS you can brick, and that you had to downgrade to GB to do this. There must have been a misunderstanding on my part as I though that installing Abyss would downgrade me to GB.
What I don't understand is that I have now installed a GB rom, yet the Abyss gb kernel still does not work.
The two members that posted mentioned that I should root, though I did mention in the OP that it is already rooted... Am I missing something?
Anyway, I want to avoid having to download any more big files. I already have the latest "nightly" build of CM10 in my SD card. Is there any GB kernel that I can install from where I am now that would make it safe to install the CM10 zip?
S-pen said:
Yes, I forgot to mention that when I rooted it I was running official 4.0.3 which I got OTA. After I rooted I tried the Abyss kernel. I had read that if you try and install CM10 straight from ICS you can brick, and that you had to downgrade to GB to do this. There must have been a misunderstanding on my part as I though that installing Abyss would downgrade me to GB.
What I don't understand is that I have now installed a GB rom, yet the Abyss gb kernel still does not work.
The two members that posted mentioned that I should root, though I did mention in the OP that it is already rooted... Am I missing something?
Anyway, I want to avoid having to download any more big files. I already have the latest "nightly" build of CM10 in my SD card. Is there any GB kernel that I can install from where I am now that would make it safe to install the CM10 zip?
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If I were on a GB ROM and wanted to run CM10 I would Full Wipe (including Cache and Dalvik) then do the following -
Flash Official CM10 kernel.
Reboot to Recovery (do not go straight to ROM flash)
Once back in Recovery, flash the CM10 ROM.
Reboot device.
Alba Donzo said:
If I were on a GB ROM and wanted to run CM10 I would Full Wipe (including Cache and Dalvik) then do the following -
Flash Official CM10 kernel.
Reboot to Recovery (do not go straight to ROM flash)
Once back in Recovery, flash the CM10 ROM.
Reboot device.
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So the official CM10 kernel is a gb kernel? Because remember that is what I'm currently on.
And just to make sure I got you... wipe everything, install kernel (I don't understand what you mean by "go straight to rom flash"), but then not "reboot system", instead "reboot to recovery", then install CM10 rom?
Also, when you say a "full wipe" do you mean that it will erase everything like a factory reset and delete all my apps and everything else? And is there anyway to install CM10 without doing this or is that the only way?
Cm10 kernel is a jelly bean kernel, so gb rom will not run under it.
Full wipe does mean erasing everything. Coming from gb, there is no other way to install, you need a full wipe, remember, you're updating two full revisions of the os, so it's not surprising a full wipe is needed. If you're worried about your apps, root gb before upgrading and use titanium backup to backup you're apps and then restore them when on cm10.
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Alba Donzo said:
If I were on a GB ROM and wanted to run CM10 I would Full Wipe (including Cache and Dalvik) then do the following -
Flash Official CM10 kernel.
Reboot to Recovery (do not go straight to ROM flash)
Once back in Recovery, flash the CM10 ROM.
Reboot device.
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If you are on rooted GB Rom and want to flash a custom JB or ICS one, this is what you do:
1. drop into recovery
2. do a full wife™ (factory reset, wipe cache and dalvik)
3. flash your JB/ICS Rom
4. reboob
Nothing else is needed, no intermediate steps like flashing another kernel in between, and especially no running Jbroid or Sybr kernel cleaning script.
chasmodo said:
If you are on rooted GB Rom and want to flash a custom JB or ICS one, this is what you do:
1. drop into recovery
2. do a full wife™ (factory reset, wipe cache and dalvik)
3. flash your JB/ICS Rom
4. reboob
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How original was that....
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SpyderTracks said:
If you're worried about your apps, root gb before upgrading and use titanium backup to backup you're apps and then restore them when on cm10.
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Once again, my phone is already rooted... I have mentioned this several times.
chasmodo said:
If you are on rooted GB Rom and want to flash a custom JB or ICS one, this is what you do:
1. drop into recovery
2. do a full wife™ (factory reset, wipe cache and dalvik)
3. flash your JB/ICS Rom
4. reboob
Nothing else is needed, no intermediate steps like flashing another kernel in between, and especially no running Jbroid or Sybr kernel cleaning script.
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You telling me that I can safely go straight to JB from my current GB rom and kernel?
I already have a "nightly" JB rom on my SD card, so just to be clear, all I do is go into CWM recovery, do a "full" wipe (how do I do that by the way?) and install the JB rom from zip?
Yes, you can go ahead. Just follow the instructions kindly provided by chasmodo.
But please, do not forget to flash GApps after you flashed the JB "nightly ROM which is on your SD Card". Otherwise you won't have Google account, play store etc yada yada.
Full wipe (aka full-wife™) means wipe data/factory reset. Nothing else.
AA1973 said:
Yes, you can go ahead. Just follow the instructions kindly provided by chasmodo.
But please, do not forget to flash GApps after you flashed the JB "nightly ROM which is on your SD Card". Otherwise you won't have Google account, play store etc yada yada.
Full wipe (aka full-wife™) means wipe data/factory reset. Nothing else.
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Great! I am downloading the GApps for JB now. How do I install them? I understand that this is also done through CWM recovery, but how do I instal them? do I install the JB rom and reboot to recovery and then just install GApps from zip before rebooting system?
Also, does the full wipe have to be done in CWM recovery, or can I just do the normal wipe on the phone menu before entering recovery?
You flash the ROM by pointing the recovery to the "ROM.zip", the same is valid for "GApps.zip".
So you do the following, no reboot in recovery in between those 2 steps!
Install zip (from where it is located, internal/external SD )
*ROM.zip
*Gapps.zip
*reboot system
Wipe data/factory reset is done (most of the times) in recovery. Just get used to it. Saves you some bad habits on doing it on stock ICS ...
AA1973 said:
You flash the ROM by pointing the recovery to the "ROM.zip", the same is valid for "GApps.zip".
So you do the following, no reboot in recovery in between those 2 steps!
Install zip (from where it is located, internal/external SD )
*ROM.zip
*Gapps.zip
*reboot system
Wipe data/factory reset is done (most of the times) in recovery. Just get used to it. Saves you some bad habits on doing it on stock ICS ...
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OK install ROM and then install GApps straight away, got it.
Just about the wipe, is it a simple one button wipe that wipes everything, or are there several things that I have to wipe independently? This is the part I'm not too sure about.
Just go into recovery and have a look. I mean, a really close look! Your topic was "need help to install a kernel" not "I don't know how to use recovery and please can someone come over to my place in order to explain me CWM recovery".
Sorry. Everything has been explained. Can't (or rather dont want to) help you further than what has been already mentioned. Period.
AA1973 said:
Just go into recovery and have a look. I mean, a really close look! Your topic was "need help to install a kernel" not "I don't know how to use recovery and please can someone come over to my place in order to explain me CWM recovery".
Sorry. Everything has been explained. Can't (or rather dont want to) help you further than what has been already mentioned. Period.
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That's fine. I'll go into recovery and have a look. Thanks for the help that you did give anyway.
It worked! I have been messing around with my new Note on Jellybean and looking through all the settings. It doesn't have project butter (or at least the project wasn't very successful), but still miles ahead of Touchwiz.
Just want to extend a big thanks to everyone that has helped me out. Much appreciated.