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Rediscovering SuperPower v 0.80 BETA

So I was over in the Atrix forums the other night because there was someone over there who was wanting some help deciding if they should ditch their Atrix for the Thrill 4G. The overwhelming amount of posts about some of the hitches with the Thrill were in regards to the battery consumption and the RAM getting hammered with general usage.
Over here since a bunch of us are actively doing doing what we can to try and speed the development along having being trying new things and tweaking this or that in an attempt to make some progress toward real development.
Here is a link to what I said over there:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=17448824#post17448824
So I was running back through all the apps. and such that I had used in the past on other phones and hidden in my lengthy list of apps. used to get every ounce of power out of whatever phone I was jacking with, was SuperPower. I had the paid version but it has subsequently been ditched and redone it seems and now takes the form of a BETA.
This BETA I dropped onto my Thrill and started to go through the options that are available on this version that were not there before. You can now manually go into SuperPower and tell the app. what program you want it to kill when the screen goes black, how you want wi-fi and/or radios to behave, etc. It is extremely customizable.
Until there is a custom ROM and all that for the Thrill I think we are going to have to do our best to manage the few minute undesirables this device has with things like SuperPower. So, my end result as it stands right now on battery and RAM usage, I am using a few different apps. and I will list the links below for your convenience; is after about 10 1/2 hours of fairly mid to heavy use I was sitting at about 71 % battery life. Understand I let the battery go down below 20 % then charged it back up to 100 % with no interruptions in the charging process. You should do this at least once a month just maintain good battery health and longevity anyway. Especially on powerhouse phones like the Thrill 4G.
Now when I say mid to heavy usage this is my interpretation of that; regular talk time throughout the day, 100+ text during the day, market and music downloads, 2D and 3D gaming. When it was time to charge again I was at 13 or so hours with 49 % battery still showing. Not to bad as it was blowing through battery like it was free before.
Here are the apps. I used with download links. If you have questions or anything let me know or PM me:
SuperPower BETA v 0.80(*Must be rooted by the way to use this*)
https://market.android.com/search?q=SuperPower
Chainsfire 3D(*must be rooted*)
https://market.android.com/search?q=Chainsfire&so=1&c=apps
*As a side note besides the other great benefits this app. offers what I use to help with battery usage is the Night Mode feature*
SPB Shell 3D (*This is a paid app. and worth every penny IMO. But if you are not down with dropping the change for it use LauncherPro or one of the other free Launchers out there*)
https://market.android.com/search?q=spb+shell+3d+&so=1&c=apps
Advanced Task Manager
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.arron.taskManagerFree&feature=search_result
Hotspot Guru
https://market.android.com/search?q=Hotspot+Guru&so=1&c=apps
Besides what I listed as benefits for SuperPower there are a ton more that I have not even touched on. This app is jam-packed full of modding goodness. get the app. and use at your own risk kind of thing and explore this bad boy because its a doozy. Lol! Hope this helps.

What are you doing specifically on the Superpower app to get such good battery life?

I think I am at the point that the best option....is to just return the thrill.
I tried using it as my dedicated device for a few days now and it just isnt working out. it freezes,locks up, bluetooth is not holding a connection ,just all around does not perform like I expected.
I really want to like it haha....i really like the overall physical feel of the phone. The 3d is great (after waiting a ridiculously long time for it to load) but it is just too sluggish and quirky for me to enjoy daily.
I am most likely going to start from scratch tonight and give it one more week....but without some major magical miracle (like fully working cwm, kernel development and the ability to flash O3D roms) i just dont see myself keeping the thrill.
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00mred00 said:
I think I am at the point that the best option....is to just return the thrill.
I tried using it as my dedicated device for a few days now and it just isnt working out. it freezes,locks up, bluetooth is not holding a connection ,just all around does not perform like I expected.
I really want to like it haha....i really like the overall physical feel of the phone. The 3d is great (after waiting a ridiculously long time for it to load) but it is just too sluggish and quirky for me to enjoy daily.
I am most likely going to start from scratch tonight and give it one more week....but without some major magical miracle (like fully working cwm, kernel development and the ability to flash O3D roms) i just dont see myself keeping the thrill.
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Really. Mine flies through screen's and apps with Zero Lag including 3D. As far as it sounds to me, sounds like your phone is either defective or loaded with a Ton of apps running in the background constantly. If it's apps running in the background all the time as far as I recall Froyo didn't do the greatest at managing what to shut down and when. Either way goodluck.

Thanks! As for apps...that isn't the issue for sure. There are a number of things the phone does quickly but there are a few it does not. The camera does concern me. When I open the three d can it just goes blank screen for a while and then finally comes up.
Hell even typing at times everything will occassionally just pause for a few.
I haven't given up yet. I am going to hard reset and give her one more go
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Really. Mine flies through screen's and apps with Zero Lag including 3D. As far as it sounds to me, sounds like your phone is either defective or loaded with a Ton of apps running in the background constantly. If it's apps running in the background all the time as far as I recall Froyo didn't do the greatest at managing what to shut down and when. Either way goodluck.
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Try using taskiller and set it up to kill apps when the screen is off. That seems to work well for me with app management.
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taytay209 said:
Try using taskiller and set it up to kill apps when the screen is off. That seems to work well for me with app management.
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Personally, I have been using "Autokiller Memory Optimizer," which is NOT a task killer, but allows you to set memory limits.
This may be overly aggressive, but this is the setup I have been using, and it has been treating me very well. From top to bottom, in MB (from "foreground app" to "empty app"): 18 / 24 / 32 /100 / 125 / 150
I may tweak it down a little, but in general this setup has allowed me to multitask between apps really quickly, while Android "kills" the apps I'm no longer using. Highly recommended for (rooted) Thrill users!
While I'm at it, another useful (paid, requires root) tool for the thrill is "Autostarts."

With what I have done so far with SuperPower and such my phone is flying right along and running consistently with between 186 and 202 mb of available memory. So with the processor and RAM hauling ass I am loving this phone. I am can't wait for some some stuff to come down the pipe for this phone. There is definitely a lot of BS stuff running hidden that can slow it down but with SuperPower and the task killer and all the stuff I talked about when I started the thread I am so far satisfied.

Running mine basically how it came straight out of the box, no custom rom, only fancy apps I'm using are appkiller and setcpu right now. Battery life before I got setcpu was... less than desired. But when I got it and configured it to only use as much processor speed as I'd need for my "on the go" usage, I get enough life out of it to last me the whole day, and get home at 20% battery. What I did? Set it so it uses minimal CPU speed (30%)with the screen off, and in calls, and during normal usage it only runs at 60% and that's more than enough to handle my regular usage of texting, emails, calls, browsing, a little bit of gaming, near constant syncing, as well as a good amout of music streaming and maybe only about 50% standby time. Love this phone, dual core with half gig of ram is pretty much complete overkill as far as any phone goes. I fly through Apps only using 60% of the cpu's stock capabilities.now for the times when I'm out longer than normal (over 14 hours a day) I have it set to use minimal CPU speed at 15% battery life and less, in case of emergencies.

I'm returning mine. I either put too many apps, get too many defective phones, or just need a phone with more memory. Never had running out of application room on the Captivate or Inspire.
Camera can take up to 8-10 seconds to finally come on. This is a pain when I want some quick shots of the kids at the moment.
Mine also freezes up while I'm using the keyboard whether it's the stock or swiftkey or better keyboard. This is the 2nd thrill I've had and same issues. So that leaves pretty much the GS2 that's coming out. And Samsung scares me.

Until we get a custom kernel.....i am not aware of anything that will allow us too throttle cpu speed. what are you using? sure the apps will allow you to make setting adjustments yes....but those settings are not sticking (not on the apps I have tried)
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Running mine basically how it came straight out of the box, no custom rom, only fancy apps I'm using are appkiller and setcpu right now. Battery life before I got setcpu was... less than desired. But when I got it and configured it to only use as much processor speed as I'd need for my "on the go" usage, I get enough life out of it to last me the whole day, and get home at 20% battery. What I did? Set it so it uses minimal CPU speed (30%)with the screen off, and in calls, and during normal usage it only runs at 60% and that's more than enough to handle my regular usage of texting, emails, calls, browsing, a little bit of gaming, near constant syncing, as well as a good amout of music streaming and maybe only about 50% standby time. Love this phone, dual core with half gig of ram is pretty much complete overkill as far as any phone goes. I fly through Apps only using 60% of the cpu's stock capabilities.now for the times when I'm out longer than normal (over 14 hours a day) I have it set to use minimal CPU speed at 15% battery life and less, in case of emergencies.
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I'm using the xda app setCPU it's a free download for site members and only requires rooting your phone. Note that the app only controls the max and min speeds of the processor, this isn't overclocking. I don't really know that much about the app beyond what it's supposed to, and seemingly succeeding at doing. Everything that I've done with the app seems to be working fine. I tested it with min and max at only 30% CPU speed (the lowest it seems to allow for), and I definitely felt it in the way my phone responded, the entire time (atleast ten mins) up til I turned the settings back up
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Until we get a custom kernel.....i am not aware of anything that will allow us too throttle cpu speed. what are you using? sure the apps will allow you to make setting adjustments yes....but those settings are not sticking (not on the apps I have tried)
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I will play with it again but i recall it doing nothing. it looks like the settings have been changed but they do not stick. Running a few benchmarks showed processor still running at full speed
I did a factory reset...will play with it when i get everything loaded up again.
irishpunk said:
I'm using the xda app setCPU it's a free download for site members and only requires rooting your phone. Note that the app only controls the max and min speeds of the processor, this isn't overclocking. I don't really know that much about the app beyond what it's supposed to, and seemingly succeeding at doing. Everything that I've done with the app seems to be working fine. I tested it with min and max at only 30% CPU speed (the lowest it seems to allow for), and I definitely felt it in the way my phone responded, the entire time (atleast ten mins) up til I turned the settings back up
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Haven't done any benchmark tests, my conclusion just came based on the results of improved battery
life to be completely honest.
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SuperPower can throttle it up a bit. It is one of the settings to be checked off.
Open up SuperPower>scroll down to: CPU Scaling: Enable and check the box
Below that is a box you can check for CPU Scaling: ondemand
Like I said in my original post there are a fair amount of options that gives us the opportunity to have our devices running at their best. I appreciate everyone's postings about what they are trying and so forth. This is how it all begins to getting stuff done. Thanks guys.

Not a problem my good friend, I'm a huge fan of this device and the potentials it possess, I am glad to be a part of any improvements that can be made.
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I am a goon...underclock works perfectly fine
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I'm glad you got it working, how's it helping you're battery life?
yeah ironic I know, a die hard Android fan like myself, doing iPhone AppleCare phone support.

47r0n1n said:
SuperPower can throttle it up a bit. It is one of the settings to be checked off.
Open up SuperPower>scroll down to: CPU Scaling: Enable and check the box
Below that is a box you can check for CPU Scaling: ondemand
Like I said in my original post there are a fair amount of options that gives us the opportunity to have our devices running at their best. I appreciate everyone's postings about what they are trying and so forth. This is how it all begins to getting stuff done. Thanks guys.
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I can't find this settings under super power? Do I need to have a paid version of this app?
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irishpunk said:
I'm glad you got it working, how's it helping you're battery life?
yeah ironic I know, a die hard Android fan like myself, doing iPhone AppleCare phone support.
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Can you post your setcpu settings?

I'm running my CPU at 600000mHz max and 300000mHz min for normal use, and babe a profile that sets it to 300000mHz max and min with the screen off. Have all my profiles set for "on demand" so it only ramps up the CPU when it needs it
yeah ironic I know, a die hard Android fan like myself, doing iPhone AppleCare phone support.

Galaxy Note Battery Life

Just got my note I was wondering if people could share their tips on how to get great battery life on the note!
any tips (even the most basic) will help all us first time Android users
So share your tips, apps, settings, etc!
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If you want to save max battery. Turn off 3G and only use 2G. Then lower brightness. Reduce frequency of app updates.
Those are the best tips. I keep brightness on auto. And I keep updates to once an hour for most things. It give me a solid day.
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Thanks!
I downloaded setCPU and have it so that the processor goes down to 800mhz when the screen is off.
I am not sure if that is helping or not though.. still struggling with battery life.

Get JuiceDefender Ultimate. It helps to automatically turn off your Data Network and your wifi whenever your not using your phone, it reopens them periodically to check for any updates on ur apps. Smart app and it has saved me x2.3 of my battery life.

thanks!
Do you think juice defender ultimate is better than setCPU?

Disable fast dormancy. *#9900# and the select disable fast dormancy and then save.
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Here are some tips for prelonging battery life:
1 - Don't use 100% screen brightness at all times - 50-60% is enough, only increase it when you need to then lower it again.
2 - If your planning to use the phone for long periods, 30 minutes or more constant use then once again use 25% or so brightness
3 - When browsing/surfing the net use the lowest possible brightness as this is the biggest battery killer. Unfortunately our AMOLED screens suck a lot of juice when displaying white...
4 - Try to keep most, if not all applications to manual updates only. Otherwise decrease the update frequency.
5 - Use an alternative launcher. I find for example using LauncherPro uses less resources/cpu/ram than the default touchwizz launcher. Therefore using less ram/cpu saves battery!
6 - If your gonna game for hours then I suggest 0% brightness!
7 - Last but least watch your apps. Some apps are poorly optimized/coded and can take up a lot of ram and cpu which then eats away at your battery!

In my case, disabling fast dormancy helps save some battery. Tough not to a big extent.

Use Screen Adjuster or Voodoo display filter to further lower screen brightness.
Install and use app that has a night mode. Eg, config opera mobile to use a user css to render white text on black background.

Hey,
Before you should know that android collects statistics on your battery in order to "learn" its behavior so within the first days of use you will see a constant improvement if you battery performance.
there are also a few apps that runs in background and has the annoying habit to drain your battery:
wifi sharing
wi-fi sharing manager
social hub
try to disable those apps using gemini app manager or titanium backup.

Thanks for the great tips. My battery lasted almost 19 hours ever since I did everything everyone has mentioned!
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uneek14 said:
Thanks!
I downloaded setCPU and have it so that the processor goes down to 800mhz when the screen is off.
I am not sure if that is helping or not though.. still struggling with battery life.
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Capping the max CPU speed does not help battery life.
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this will also help you understand battery life
http://batteryuniversity.com/

Gary13579 said:
Capping the max CPU speed does not help battery life.
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How so? I've heard some people on YouTube say they save battery this way..it was the only reason I downloaded setCPU...what are your thoughts?
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When screen is off, the cpu frequency is reduced anyway. Thats the advantage of sleep.
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bud.de said:
When screen is off, the cpu frequency is reduced anyway. Thats the advantage of sleep.
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How much is it reduced to?

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How much is it reduced to?
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Just enough to receive calls, sms, messages, etc. What was it, 200mhz?

uneek14 said:
How so? I've heard some people on YouTube say they save battery this way..it was the only reason I downloaded setCPU...what are your thoughts?
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YouTube is in no way a reliable source of information when it comes to technology. Unfortunately, neither are these forums, as witnessed by the masses of people that consistently state underclocking saves battery. I've posted about this several times before, and it seems no one ever listens or trusts me, so I'll try to lay it out as simple as I can. This effect is very well known by old school Linux nerds that would push their notebooks to get longer battery lives. Intel calls this effect HUGI -- Hurry Up and Get Idle. It essentially states that the faster a CPU runs, the more energy it consumes, but it *also* finishes it's work faster. Finishing work faster is important as it means that the CPU can go back to it's "Idle" state faster. The idle (or sleep) state uses virtually zero energy. Let me see if I can pull up the voltage table for a phone... here, found this for the Sprint Nexus S 4G and it looks to be accurate based off my memory of the CPU.
1000mhz - 1.25v
800mhz - 1.20v
400mhz - 1.05v
200mhz - 0.95v
100mhz - 0.95v
Now, let's say we have a task that takes 10 seconds to complete at 1000 MHz. 10 seconds times 1.25v is 12.5v (I know, I know, voltage doesn't work this way -- but it's a good enough approximation to demonstrate this effect (and it's to scale!) and I'm too tired to explain volt vs amp vs watt, it's 5am here). At 100 MHz, though, the *same exact task* would take 100 seconds! 100 seconds times 0.95v is, wow, 95v! By capping your CPU to 100 MHz (10% of max), you are effectively using (95/12.5=) 660% more energy to do the same task.
Now, there are scenarios where underclocking can help you, such as when your phones CPU is running at 100% 24/7 because of ****ty applications or leaked wakelocks. Although underclocking does appear to somewhat fix this, it's a complete ****ing hack and won't give you anywhere near the amount of battery life that you'd get by uninstalling the ****ty app and letting your phone go to sleep.
Make sense?
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Wow! Thanks! yeah it does make sense! I guess I should uninstall setCPU...I'm not sure what else its used for
thanks again
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Just enough to receive calls, sms, messages, etc. What was it, 200mhz?
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That's great, a very efficient way to save battery...
So it's basically like a modern pc running a core i5/i7 that runs at 2.5GHz when idle or when no power is needed. However when power is needed the intel Turbo boost kicks in & increases clock speed to 4.2GHz or even higher depending on what the user set it to.
In my case my PC cpu idles at 3.4GHz & when gaming or video editing it boosts to 4.7GHZ which I've manually set it to.

My Favorite configuration for O/C

So....long time lurker here....I've tried every rom for the revo, every config setting, every tweak, every update, and so far for speed, battery life etc when running Blitz....the best I can come up with is this:
wipe data/ factory reset in CWM
fresh install:
Gingervolt 1.3
Blitz 2.1
Rom Toolbox Pro.
Toolbox CPU settings: max=1900 min=245 governor=SMOOTHASS
Thats it.
If I go and install scripts....other tweaks....different configurations...they ALL drain the battery faster than that simple setup.
I have the extended battery and I am getting a nice slow drain with decent usage. Blazing fast speed too.
Sometimes LESS IS MORE....and with this phone...after 50 wipes and re-flashes....In my opinion, you will get the best battery life from that config.
I will update this thread with drain % over time...right now I will charge the phone 100% and take it from there.

So...after charging the phone to100%....waited until 3:55pm..then rebooted while plugged in phone untouched until 4:00 pm. I then unplugged the phone and checked battery life exactly at 5:00 ....6:00....and7:00. With ZERO phone use.....the phone....screen off in 4g mode will use exactly 3% every hour on the hour. This is with the settings in the first post.

Thank you very much. Really appreciate it. This works for me too. The Revo has now become very stable, fast, descent battery life. I did it by keeping stock, applying your changes and using Zeam Launcher. Not on Gingervolt.

I have been using the scripts for a week now, and I think I agree. I am sure it's my phone being argumentative. I am thinking of downgrading the supercharger back to the gingervolt, because I think that was the most optimal for my phone, and apparently Mike's too.
Thanks for your post.

next test was to fully charge the phone to 100% ...disable 4g....reboot....wait until 9:00pm andunplug. Again with zero phone usage I waited until 10:00pm. The phone only drained the battery 1%. It went from 100% to 99% in one hour in 3g mode with wifi disabled.
so the next test will be 3g mode with wifi enabled and no use.
after that I will try the phone with wifi enabled in 4g mode
i hope we can zero in on maximizing battery life once and for all.

so one thing i must say regardless of the standby tests.....is that i fully expect garbage battery life after overclocking this phone while i am actually using it. overclocking creates heat......and heat is wasted electricity. so its give and take....sure overclocking is great and the phone isblazin fast...but the battery pays the price.
so theres one thing that is a fact of this phone.....it is 100% impossible to overclock the revolution and get better battery life than what we had before overclocking. its never gonna happen. BUT what we can do is figure out the best way to maximize battery life when the screenis off....and hopefully this thread can start us in the right directiono

MIKEOD5785 said:
so one thing i must say regardless of the standby tests.....is that i fully expect garbage battery life after overclocking this phone while i am actually using it. overclocking creates heat......and heat is wasted electricity. so its give and take....sure overclocking is great and the phone isblazin fast...but the battery pays the price.
so theres one thing that is a fact of this phone.....it is 100% impossible to overclock the revolution and get better battery life than what we had before overclocking. its never gonna happen. BUT what we can do is figure out the best way to maximize battery life when the screenis off....and hopefully this thread can start us in the right directiono
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You should not see significant battery drain while using the phone. The idea of over clocking is so that multiple apps can run together without there being any jumping or lag. Your processor should not be running at 1900 when in the phone state. We all know 4g is a battery killer. I don't use 4g. This is a great thread you started.
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I used my phone as a navigation last night. Plugged into my car charger on the 20 minutes or so ride I lost 2% lol. Oc to 1.9
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Haro912 said:
I used my phone as a navigation last night. Plugged into my car charger on the 20 minutes or so ride I lost 2% lol. Oc to 1.9
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Mine actually charges. I started nav the other day at 81 percent, and ended my drive on 83. I think I was in the car for 30 minutes, maybe 40.
Let's see what duder gets, I am very interested.

Running blitz 2.1 @ 1.9/245 with the OEM extended battery my temps never exceed 90f, monitored by battery ETA. That includes full HD streaming. So, not so concerned about overheating.

Sucky battery life

I want to know if my phone is just reading the charge level wrong or if something is wrong. I am running Slim ICS newest version, I also have an extended 3500mAh battery. I am only getting about 8-10 hours of battery life. I am always on my phone and I am wondering if that's why its draining so much. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
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What do you mean by always on your phone? If your screen on time is 8-10 hours, that would explain the drain lol. You may just want to test it with different ROM/kernel combinations
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korockinout13 said:
What do you mean by always on your phone? If your screen on time is 8-10 hours, that would explain the drain lol. You may just want to test it with different ROM/kernel combinations
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Well my screen isn't always on but I mean I use it a bunch like I text a crap load and stuff
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Take a look at what you have running on your phone - widgets that grab updates, live wallpapers, and any other thing that runs in the background will add to your battery drain. It's pretty much an even tradeoff - the more you ask the phone to do, the faster the battery will go down. Just take a look at what you have running and decide what needs to be running and what can be taken away.

jmtheiss said:
Take a look at what you have running on your phone - widgets that grab updates, live wallpapers, and any other thing that runs in the background will add to your battery drain. It's pretty much an even tradeoff - the more you ask the phone to do, the faster the battery will go down. Just take a look at what you have running and decide what needs to be running and what can be taken away.
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I have one widget and a program called quicker I constantly kill things with my task manager
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Do you do much gaming or web browsing on the phone? Both of those can be pretty heavy battery drains.
If not, and you're only getting 8-10 hours per charge with normal use (mostly calls, texts, some small amount of apps), then you may want to look at overclocking/undervolting to fine tune how your phone uses power.

jmtheiss said:
Do you do much gaming or web browsing on the phone? Both of those can be pretty heavy battery drains.
If not, and you're only getting 8-10 hours per charge with normal use (mostly calls, texts, some small amount of apps), then you may want to look at overclocking/undervolting to fine tune how your phone uses power.
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I do some web browsing but nothing that would drain my battery this much, if you could help Me configure overclocking and undervolting that would be great I am running glitch kernel v14 b6
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Whoops
Posting in the wrong section. Whoops. I cant even delete my post now

The OC/UV setup is something you'll just have to play around with, as each phone handles them differently.
My suggestion (and I can't say I'm even remotely an expert on this) would be to leave the UV alone at first and try pushing the OC setting up and see how high your phone will run and still be stable, then back off by 1 level (giving you a buffer). Your phone can handle the higher level, but a difference of 100 MHz isn't going to be a massive boost and it runs the chip a little easier.
Once you've done that, then take a single notch of voltage off of all levels. See if that's stable, then repeat and see which settings are ones your phone will handle.

patrick8996 said:
I have one widget and a program called quicker I constantly kill things with my task manager
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Hmm... Killing things isn't very good on battery life since it forces those services to restart again, eating up CPU and holding wake lock. Killing tasks is frowned upon in general and won't help battery life unless you are killing rogue CPU hogging apps.
You could try underclocking with glitch to the 800 MHz step, and setting live OC to something around 115%. It should perform well depending on the ROM, and yield better battery life than pure overclocking. You can also experiment with undervolting from there. Keep in mind that these things only affect battery life when the CPU is running, so basically when the screen is on. It won't save you power in deep sleep.
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JuiceDefender?

Hi
Anyone using JuiceDefender with your galaxy note? is it worth it to buy this application?
Thanks
Sam

Save your money and skip it like anti virus apps. Many people recommended it so i bought it but i didn't like it at all. Experienced sluggish performance, connections not stable and sometimes connection doesn't even come back on unless i manually turn it back on. Also push mail doesn't work since juicedefender turns off data when not in use and checks every 15, 30 etc intervals (however u set it to check), i don't like that at all. I rather have 100% reliable fast performance connectivity than app that saves few % of battery. Just my 2cents
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hmm i heard alot of people telling it saves alot of battery power.. jus wanted to know about the pro version..

Yeah it does save quite an amount. You can configure it to on off Wi-Fi necessarily or learn specific network when you are on the particular area of interest.
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sam20e said:
hmm i heard alot of people telling it saves alot of battery power.. jus wanted to know about the pro version..
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My experience was with juicedefender ultimate.
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zen0s said:
My experience was with juicedefender ultimate.
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How was it? any real battery improvement? any lagging issues?
Sam

My previous phone was pretty crappy and I had pretty crappy service, so I had to make sure I turned wifi, mobile data, etc. off when not using them. On my Note, I don't even bother turning them off because they drain so little. I don't think bothering with Juicedefender is worth the trouble.
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Had an old Xperia Arc and Juice Defender worked quite well to last me the day.
Now with the Note, I tried with and without it and I find no significant difference actually.
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I agree...
Being new to the android and rooting scene. I downloaded all the recommended apps and one by one uninstalled them including juicedefender...
Whats the point of it stopping data when screen is off? It defeats the purpose of push notifications.
Also I didn't notice any real extension of battery life either

I think it depends how you set up juice defender ultimate. For example on weekdays and working hours I use the "peek" option, letting jd enable connection every 5 minutes. Of course I have than battery drain. With different settings on different times and/or days (up to flight mode at night) I have significant less battery consumption.
It is also important when you use your phone a lot with the screen on, not to let jd automatically turn data on, because then there is obviously no difference at all, with or with out jd running.

There is no use of such apps, I have tried used many such apps from my S2 days and I never felt any difference in performance or battery life..just let it go. Ur using an Android device, and if u use it as a smartphone should be used, u will need to charge in at least once a day.
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AutoStarts is doing everything for me.

I had used JuiceDefender for a short spell when on GB. However, BetterBatteryStats soon showed what a battery hog JD was, so I made it disappear from my phone. Forever.

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I had used JuiceDefender for a short spell when on GB. However, BetterBatteryStats soon showed what a battery hog JD was, so I made it disappear from my phone. And never again.
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Exactly. Juice defender is crap. Its just for lazy people who can't maintain their settings on their own. and juice defender is obviously always running in the background, using up cpu power and draining battery on its own
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How was it? any real battery improvement? any lagging issues?
Sam
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It does save little battery and drains at the same time. Huge down side of using this kind of app is no push and data connection is glitchy, sometimes takes awhile to connect back to network or wifi and slower performance. I can still use gnote all day with single charge so I don't find this kind of app useful to me at all. It's really not hard to turn off and on data or wifi on android unlike ios crap where you have to dig in settings.
Save few % battery vs slow performance, hit or miss connection.. I think answer is simple
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I used to use it, ultimate version. But I quit using it and still have great battery because of my own setting changes. Juicedefender might be okay for people that don't use their phone much. But, if you are constantly on it, like I am, it is just a memory and battery hog.

Its not worth it, and possibly wastes battery juice rather than saving it.
I've been using it for several weeks now, when i go to sleep my usual percentage is from 70 to 85 % i always turn wifi off as i don't charge it at night. With the app running in the background, when i wake up it goes down to 45% when i do not use it as in its not running in the background I'm the morning the battery percentage only hours down by 5% max to 80%.

Pcworld made an intensiv3 comparison on the effect this apps do. The verdict: keep your money.
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battery saver is better

Don't bother. I used it on my HTC Flyer and I saw no difference. Migrated it to the SGN and I saw a huge difference after I uninstalled.
The features are limited and just stupid if you ask me. I believe the best battery app would regulste connectivity on demand (ie when I open Dolphin or refresh Facebook it would connect automatically and disconnect immediately afterwards).
If you are looking to extend battery life I suggest self regulating your connectivity (ie use the toggles) and screen brightness.
For even better battery life try and avoid apps that constantly run (eg ones that monitor other apos and processes).
You should get very decent life out of the SGN, and if you don't do what I did and get a spare battery. They are cheaper than you might think and they are an absolute life saver in emergencies or times with heavy usage.
Hope that helped
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