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[Q] Any changes to the sdcard files will not take

editi guess sdcard is incorrect/confusing for my situation, it's the entire system up to root folders is stuck in a read-only type state.
I didn't really see anything that fits my current problem (sorry if there is an answer somewhere buried in here)
So to start off with info, I installed Android on the TP back in February for my fiancée just for the basics of email, videoplayer, comic reader, internet browsing. Nothing too extravagant, just something with more to offer than webos.
I never did any updates on it because it worked perfectly fine for what it was being used on.
I've changed out the video selection many times as she watches through the shows with no problems.
Now I go to change the files and I delete them, add the new stuff, all seems fine. Then I unmount it and everything I deleted is back and everything I added is gone. I've uninstalled apps and they come back, I've done updates to apps and they revert back to before the update.
I've gone into CMW and done the wipes and even formatted sdcard, cache, etc. Nothing works. Even mounting USB in CWM to add files gives the same result of them disappearing right after it is unmounted.
I've tried ACMEUnistaller but it doesn't work. I saw something flash by the screen about something failing, but it goes too fast to even really see what it's about.
Sorry this is so long. I appreciate any insight!
Kernel
2.6.35-palm-tenderloin
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CyanogenMod version:
9.0.0-RC0-Touchpad-alpha2
Build Date
Mon, Feb 20 13:59:21 CST 2012
Build Number
IML74K

plasticsoldier said:
I didn't really see anything that fits my current problem (sorry if there is an answer somewhere buried in here)
So to start off with info, I installed Android on the TP back in February for my fiancée just for the basics of email, videoplayer, comic reader, internet browsing. Nothing too extravagant, just something with more to offer than webos.
I never did any updates on it because it worked perfectly fine for what it was being used on.
I've changed out the video selection many times as she watches through the shows with no problems.
Now I go to change the files and I delete them, add the new stuff, all seems fine. Then I unmount it and everything I deleted is back and everything I added is gone. I've uninstalled apps and they come back, I've done updates to apps and they revert back to before the update.
I've gone into CMW and done the wipes and even formatted sdcard, cache, etc. Nothing works. Even mounting USB in CWM to add files gives the same result of them disappearing right after it is unmounted.
I've tried ACMEUnistaller but it doesn't work. I saw something flash by the screen about something failing, but it goes too fast to even really see what it's about.
Sorry this is so long. I appreciate any insight!
Kernel
2.6.35-palm-tenderloin
[email protected] #12
CyanogenMod version:
9.0.0-RC0-Touchpad-alpha2
Build Date
Mon, Feb 20 13:59:21 CST 2012
Build Number
IML74K
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I've run across this 3 times with TPs I work on....
1st one had to be sent back to HP because somehow internal memory was damaged and got locked in some some of read only mode
2nd one I saw, I went into webOS, installed the internalz app, mounted the TP to the computer, then added and erased some files and from then on all was good in both webOS and Android
3rd and 4th (same customer) had to be sent in to HP
Now let me mention I live in Costa Rica so all these have been exposed to several scans at airport security checkpoints. I mention this because I haven't seen anything close to a read only problem with the TPs in the USA
Sent from my aokp_tenderloin using Tapatalk 2

thank you so much for the info. Unfortunately Internalz didn't want to help the items stay deleted either. The stuck in read-only type mode is very weird.
I'm pretty sure I am 3 weeks out of the 1-year warranty on it, plus I am unable to remove android from it to even trick them that it just doesn't work.
I guess I'll try webos doctor and see if that can get it going.
edit: webos doctor not working, even with the closing it at 8-12% tricks and doing the lvm.static..... stuff... 'cause it of course doesn't see to actually delete anything... i'll have to double check tomorrow when i bought it, pretty sure it's over the year and since it turns on and has android kinda screwed

plasticsoldier said:
thank you so much for the info. Unfortunately Internalz didn't want to help the items stay deleted either. The stuck in read-only type mode is very weird.
I'm pretty sure I am 3 weeks out of the 1-year warranty on it, plus I am unable to remove android from it to even trick them that it just doesn't work.
I guess I'll try webos doctor and see if that can get it going.
edit: webos doctor not working, even with the closing it at 8-12% tricks and doing the lvm.static..... stuff... 'cause it of course doesn't see to actually delete anything... i'll have to double check tomorrow when i bought it, pretty sure it's over the year and since it turns on and has android kinda screwed
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I would suggest trying to restore down to WebOS 3.0. In that procedure you literally wipe EVERYTHING on the internal partitions in novaterm and start from absolute scratch. Therefore, if it a software issue you could solve the problem. However, if it is a hardware issue, you'd be kinda screwed.

Yeah, none of the methods I've ended up finding about this problem or other bricked problems are working at all.
i checked at work when i bought it, which of course the 11th was the year mark... but I do have android installed so even if i can get any chance of them honouring it so close they'll probably be like "oh you have android, that'll be $$$ for us to do anything. thanks!"
So I guess I now I have a paperweight with some features.

cdzo72 said:
I've run across this 3 times with TPs I work on....
1st one had to be sent back to HP because somehow internal memory was damaged and got locked in some some of read only mode
2nd one I saw, I went into webOS, installed the internalz app, mounted the TP to the computer, then added and erased some files and from then on all was good in both webOS and Android
3rd and 4th (same customer) had to be sent in to HP
Now let me mention I live in Costa Rica so all these have been exposed to several scans at airport security checkpoints. I mention this because I haven't seen anything close to a read only problem with the TPs in the USA
Sent from my aokp_tenderloin using Tapatalk 2
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When you got the tablets back had they been fixed or were they refurbs ? Did HP say anything about Android still being on it?

There is a thread in the General forum about how to restore and downgrade. Have you tried that thread ? It is usually a great way to try and get that last restore before sending it back to HP.
73 de VE6AY
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how are you adding and deleting files when in android? which version of android do you have installed? have you tried different rom versions? have you tried moving and/or deleting files over adb? are you using windows or linux on your computer that youre connecting the touchpad to? it doesnt make sense that the sdcard would be set to read only. is it only certain folders that you cant modify the contents of, or is it the entire sdcard? are you able to modify contents of folders in the / directory of the device using root file explorer or es file explorer in android? have you run "fix permissions"? Also, running webosdoctor wont wipe the sdcard contents or format the sdcard in any way. its going to change the data in the webos partition and may change some data in the /boot directory.

sstar said:
When you got the tablets back had they been fixed or were they refurbs ? Did HP say anything about Android still being on it?
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They had been fixed but the owners sent them off and had to pay for the whole thing because they had Android on them. When I got my hands on them again I just reinstalled Android. HP charged a little over a hundred dollars for the fix
Sent from my aokp_tenderloin using Tapatalk 2

cdzo72 said:
They had been fixed but the owners sent them off and had to pay for the whole thing because they had Android on them. When I got my hands on them again I just reinstalled Android. HP charged a little over a hundred dollars for the fix
Sent from my aokp_tenderloin using Tapatalk 2
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Thanks for the answer, this would tend to suggest that the problem is software based corrupted or otherwise. I am trying to find a program that will allow me to read/format the Android partition on my windows computer and will let you know if come up with anything.
Regards

i guess i should change the title slightly.. it's not sdcard, but basically the entire touchpad contents. go to root and delete whatever i want and it doesn't matter. connect it and format with windows and it doesn't actually matter.
haxin said:
how are you adding and deleting files when in android?
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i've added and deleted just by using mtp. i've also deleted the files on the android side with the video player (vplayer) i've installed es file explorer (which after restart is gone) and deleted with that. i've also gone into webos and installed internalz pro and deleted files that way, which it then seems to work until i of course do anything related to restarting.
some of the files i've put on, i've had it recognize briefly. so for the video file, start it, then it gets really choppy/glitchy playing it. so stop it, go back into the vplayer and it's back to the old stuff
which version of android do you have installed? have you tried different rom versions?
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android version 4.0.3. nothing else will install. if i add files while in android, when i boot into cwm they are gone. if i mount usb in cwm and add them they stay briefly but when i try to flash them they fail.
have you tried moving and/or deleting files over adb? are you using windows or linux on your computer that youre connecting the touchpad to?
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i have not tried adb yet, just not as familiar using it properly, i will give it a try though.
i am using windows 7 on my laptop currently. i do have a pc upstairs that i barely use that has vista, but i don't know how that would make a difference to the touchpad
it doesnt make sense that the sdcard would be set to read only. is it only certain folders that you cant modify the contents of, or is it the entire sdcard?
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yeah as i put above i guess saying sdcard was a bit confusing/misleading (my bad, sorry!), i didn't really know what else to call it at the time or how to explain myself properly at first.
are you able to modify contents of folders in the / directory of the device using root file explorer or es file explorer in android?
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i can move/delete/modify anything which has absolutely no effect to the device. i've used es file explorer and gone up to root and deleted everything and the system runs fine. says the system is empty with lots of free space (its the 32gb model) but restart or even go into recovery and everything is once again there.
have you run "fix permissions"?
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i've run it a few times. just acts likes it's working and then says done. i've even gone into the mounts and storage in cwm and formatted sdcard/cache/data/system. does nothing at all in the end of things
Also, running webosdoctor wont wipe the sdcard contents or format the sdcard in any way. its going to change the data in the webos partition and may change some data in the /boot directory.
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it was just something to try to get somewhere right. it never gets past 12%. always fails to reboot.
I am currently letting the battery drain and see if it dying and then being charged will do anything. probably not. but who knows. i talked to a "tech" on the chat support (i never mentioned android) who told me that having preware installed in webos causing it to become corrupt and they "don't knowledge of preware installed devices" exact words. no idea what that means haha don't have knowledge, don't acknowledge...
anyhow. i've not quite given up. i just don't really see it turning out any differently from the previous times. i do appreciate all the feedback and help very much though

ok so heres what I would try. First try flashing a new fresh rom. download one that you want to your computer like cm9 nightly or aokp or whatever you feel like. then boot into CWM recovery connect the touchpad to the computer via usb. then connect to the touchpad with adb. I'm not sure how to do this in windows because it's been so long since I've done it on a windows box, I always use linux.
adb has alot of options, you can move files to and from the device, you can uninstall or install app packages, and more. this way you can adb push the rom .zip to the touchpad's sdcard while youre in cwm recovery. this way you dont have to reboot the touchpad and risk having the file disappear, you can just go to 'install zip from sdcard' and then 'choose zip from sdcard' in cwm recovery after you adb push the rom, you should see it in the folder you pushed it to on the sdcard.
If you arent familiar with how to use adb from the command line or the terminal this might not make alot of sense and i dont know how better to explain it than that. Also yes windows 7 vs windows vista does make a difference there are issues with novacom installing properly, that's why you would have problems running acmeuninstaller or acmeinstaller2. if you look around you should find some videos or how to's that can probably explain it better. Hope this helps.
http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Novacom_with_Windows_7
http://forums.webosnation.com/webos-internals/295881-webos-doctor-12-issue-fixed-5.html

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1426244 is the thread I was talking about - it allows you to access the hard root of the device, repartition it, and start again from scratch. It is what I was suggesting last night, from my tablet when I didn't have the link handy.

ve6ay said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1426244 is the thread I was talking about - it allows you to access the hard root of the device, repartition it, and start again from scratch. It is what I was suggesting last night, from my tablet when I didn't have the link handy.
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Probably the best suggestion yet given that everything else has been tried.
Good luck.

****EDIT****
Before you attempt the step above I have just noticed a difference between between cwm and. TWRP2.2 which I have installed on my Touchpad via goo manager. If I open recovery via goo manager and then select wipe it gives me 4 options cache, davlik, factory reset AND system which i think says will remove your rom . I don't see the forth option available with the regular cwm/clockwork. Just a thought.
All the best with whatever you try next.

sstar said:
Probably the best suggestion yet given that everything else has been tried.
Good luck.
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this would work, however you have to fix you novacom/novaterm issues on your windows machine before you'll be able to do any of this. the reason acmeuninstaller, acmeinstaller2 arent working is likely because youre on a windows7 64bit box and Palm-sdk, the novacomd.exe, noverm.exe, and javaruntime apps and drivers arent setup right. just make sure you have the proper javaupdates on your computer then you can install preware in webos, preware has some nice tools that will delete the entire android install partitions, one is called 'remove android' and the other is called 'tailor' you run them from within webos. after you do that then in webos you should do a full device reset. you'll find it in the "info" tab under settings in webos. this will delete and reformat the whole /media ,(aka sdcard) partition. so you will lose all the files you have stored on both webos and android. that format will take a long time probably like 30 min or more. after thats done. reboot the hp and run webosdoctor. now i know for sure this will work because ive done it on mine. remember to put the touchpad in developer mode in webos first to install preware. you can do that by typing webos20090606 into the webos search bar and hitting enter. I'll put links from my box.com accou t to everything you need.
https://www.box.com/s/479acdb6ef9c99fc7b92
https://www.box.com/s/1aed4722990aad251570
edit: also I'm not sure if youre on the 16gig 32gig or 64gig pad, the webosdoctor that i linked is for 32gig wifi only US version. if thats not what you have then youll need to get the doctor for for specific touchpad. or you could create a webosmetadoctor but thats a whole nother project.

i have the 32gb version. i assume US and Canadian aren't gonna make a difference
i've tried all those threads. any novacom/novaterm stuff doesn't work, the files won't delete so when trying to recreate they just error saying it already exists.
if the devices is on in androind the adb can find the device although the "Serial" has a bunch of ???? at the end of it. when i go to cwm adb cannot find the device.
in cwm i can mount and add files that way and go back to install zip sdcard but get:
Code:
--Installing /sdcard/aokp_tenderloin_milestone-4.zip
Finding update package...
Opening update package...
E: Can't open /sdcard/aokp_tenderloin_milestone-4.zip
(bad)
Installation aborted
used "remove android" in webos, but then nothing is different after the fact as usual. 'tailor' doesn't seem to exist anymore in preware at least that i can find
not sure if there is anything else I can do at this point

plasticsoldier said:
i have the 32gb version. i assume US and Canadian aren't gonna make a difference
i've tried all those threads. any novacom/novaterm stuff doesn't work, the files won't delete so when trying to recreate they just error saying it already exists.
if the devices is on in androind the adb can find the device although the "Serial" has a bunch of ???? at the end of it. when i go to cwm adb cannot find the device.
in cwm i can mount and add files that way and go back to install zip sdcard but get:
Code:
--Installing /sdcard/aokp_tenderloin_milestone-4.zip
Finding update package...
Opening update package...
E: Can't open /sdcard/aokp_tenderloin_milestone-4.zip
(bad)
Installation aborted
used "remove android" in webos, but then nothing is different after the fact as usual. 'tailor' doesn't seem to exist anymore in preware at least that i can find
not sure if there is anything else I can do at this point
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ok no one will be able to help you fix this issue unless you give complete details of the problems. when you say " novacom/novaterm stuff doesn't work" we cant really help specific error details is what i need. I dont mind helping you fix this but you have to be a little more specific on exactly what,where, and how youre installing and running and mounting apps and directories.
your problem IS fixable but you need to slow down and really do things exactly step by step.
Ok so back to ./adb. now when you boot in to CWM recovery on he touchpad DONT do anything in CWM just plug it into the computer. do not mount it as a usb storage and dont mount or unmount the sd partition LEAVE IT.
you can then use ./adb from the command line or terminal on the computer to move the files to the touchpad' or install apk's uninstall apk's you name it. This will require that you know some linux terminal commands. for example to move a new rom zip to the internal sd card or into any other folder you can use ./adb push command to run a root shell on the android device itself you can use ./adb shell and then change folder and file properties from readonly to rw. this can all be done while the touchpad is patiently waitng in CWM recovery. this way when youre done installing or uninstalling apps from the device and moving flash zips to it, you can disconnect the .adb connection with ./adb disconnect or just type exit from the terminal till it closes. unplug it then you will be able to pick up the touchpad and install zip from the sdcard, keep in mind you dont want to choose 'apply u[date from sdcard' you want to use the 'install zip from sdcard option' you can read up more on how adb works. it is probally the most important part of hacking android.
with that being said. novaterm is the palm webos version of .adb. this is why when you boot into webos recovery to do things like acmeinstaller and acmeuninstaller2 the novaterm novacom and novacomd apps have to be installed correctly on the computer or else you wont be going anywhere fast. some screenshot examples of how it should appear below.
https://www.box.com/s/432e63a83215f00eea6a
https://www.box.com/s/970bc29542a05f98f036
https://www.box.com/s/63c0f656e8354f7f2d6a
https://www.box.com/s/cbe3266467ae8e3ebabe
https://www.box.com/s/005e56a61a178dd17fa4 some better resolution images.

Plasticsoldier said
used "remove android" in webos, but then nothing is different after the fact as usual. 'tailor' doesn't seem to exist anymore in preware at least that i can find
not sure if there is anything else I can do at this point
Yes there is
Firstly tailor does exist, it is a beta and the facility to dl must be enabled.
Read this and scroll down to Enabling beta test feeds and follow the instructions , when you get as far as using the Linux command you CAN copy and paste thank God.
http://en.m.webos-internals.org/wiki/Testing_Feeds?wasRedirected=true . After that reboot into Webos and launch preware. Go into managed feeds as per the instructions in the link above and install Tailor. Reboot again and the app will work. It looks very good actually.
But before attempting to actually use Tailor please read the article I have posted below it is only 7 pages long but will explain how to use Taylor properly as it is a powerful tool.
http://forums.webosnation.com/webos...partition-filesystem-editor-beta-testing.html
I have done all of this , this morning so if you have any problems pm me or ask in this thread.
I sincerely hope that this helps, it should be the answer to your problems.

@haxin: sorry, wasn't trying to be unhelpful when everyone is being helpful to me. I shall be more detailed in future responses. I think i was getting frustrated and had had a busy exhausting day so it didn't help me come across clearly/properly.
OK, so I had preware installed already, so I removed it, went into developer mode, used the linux commands, reinstalled preware, added Tailor.
(i've done this a few times, because I didn't remove the cable after doing the linux commands for preware, then i accidentally hit the wrong buttons and it connected to 'usb drive' mode and wouldn't connect on the pc side and got stuck on the "ow disconnected me properly next time" screen).
So it gives me the following options
USB (media)
Android (system)
Android (cache)
Android (data)
Unused Space
the 'usb media' starts mounted and will mount again if unmounted. If I use 'check filesystem' it'll pass. So then I try 'delete partition' which pretends to delete, then it takes me to the unused partition which is still at 16mb. so i try to use "check filesystem' again and it fails. try repair and it fails as well
I've tried mounting the android parts just to see, they just sit there processing that they are trying to mount. trying to delete or anything else fails as well.
and now after trying things, any of the 'cards' will try to open and just sit there grey. and with my usb cable not plugged in it still is giving me the option to enter usb drive mode. and with this i have to restart and go through the steps again of adding Tailor which is getting tedious.
I restarted, went through the motions to get back to Tailor. trying out resizing just to see how that goes. So far 15%. not sure what will happen when done, but we will see.
This is getting long, so i'll end this part and update on anything and also try to familiarize myself with adb a tad more

[A] How to Install Android without setting up webOS

Solved - Follow this - http://forums.webosnation.com/hp-touchpad/318426-how-install-android-without-setting-up-webos.html
Here is a series of steps that lead me to this problem.
1) I wanted to give my touchpad to a friend of mine. So I removed the dual boot. I also booted to WebOs and did a factory reset. The touch-pad is now in pristine state. So far so good. No problems.
2) My friend takes the touchpad from me but never goes thru the setup. He then looses it !!
3) Once I came to know about it, I went online and initiated a remote wipe. I don't know why I did that since it was already clean (from step 1 above). I think this action of mine created a problem.
4) My friend finds the Touchpad. It was in his home all along. So I charged it and then boot into WebOs.
5) This is where the problem starts. The initial webOs setup requires that I set up a new account with HP ( or use an existing one). First, I tried to use my existing account (the same that I used in step 3). It won't log in saying that there is a login error, try again or contact HP support. The password is correct, since I am using the same password on the HP website and I can see my device there.
6) I then tried to create a new account using a different email. To my surprise, that failed too. I tried a few other emails, all with same results. The new account creation was failing in all these cases.
7) Now I am stuck. I have emailed HP for support but I was hoping someone else had any other ideas. I am out of warranty. So email support is the only thing that I can get from HP.
8) Is there is a way I can install Android on it without launching webOs - Can I create a cmInstall folder from WebOs recovery ? ANy Novacom driver option to access the file system ? The only way to get the cminstall folder (that I know of) is to boot into webOs and I cannot do that.
I have tried a few other things that came to my mind.
1) I used WebOs Doctor to do a clean install. It still did not help. The log-in still fails.
2) I removed the device from my old account thinking that it might be the reason my new account creation is failing. But that did not help.
Any suggestion or links that might help me would be really appreciated.

[email protected] said:
Here is a series of steps that lead me to this problem.
1) I wanted to give my touchpad to a friend of mine. So I removed the dual boot. I also booted to WebOs and did a factory reset. The touch-pad is now in pristine state. So far so good. No problems.
2) My friend takes the touchpad from me but never goes thru the setup. He then looses it !!
3) Once I came to know about it, I went online and initiated a remote wipe. I don't know why I did that since it was already clean (from step 1 above). I think this action of mine created a problem.
4) My friend finds the Touchpad. It was in his home all along. So I charged it and then boot into WebOs.
5) This is where the problem starts. The initial webOs setup requires that I set up a new account with HP ( or use an existing one). First, I tried to use my existing account (the same that I used in step 3). It won't log in saying that there is a login error, try again or contact HP support. The password is correct, since I am using the same password on the HP website and I can see my device there.
6) I then tried to create a new account using a different email. To my surprise, that failed too. I tried a few other emails, all with same results. The new account creation was failing in all these cases.
7) Now I am stuck. I have emailed HP for support but I was hoping someone else had any other ideas. I am out of warranty. So email support is the only thing that I can get from HP.
8) Is there is a way I can install Android on it without launching webOs - Can I create a cmInstall folder from WebOs recovery ? ANy Novacom driver option to access the file system ? The only way to get the cminstall folder (that I know of) is to boot into webOs and I cannot do that.
I have tried a few other things that came to my mind.
1) I used WebOs Doctor to do a clean install. It still did not help. The log-in still fails.
2) I removed the device from my old account thinking that it might be the reason my new account creation is failing. But that did not help.
Any suggestion or links that might help me would be really appreciated.
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When you tried to doctor, did you go back to 3.0.0? If you didn't, here's a good guide :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1426244
You have to go back to 3.0.0 because it's the only one who can handle partitions. After you successfully do 3.0.0, you can update to 3.0.5 OTA. Then install android the usual way.
Read the whole thing. Around page 12 there's a good work around if you're having trouble with novaterm.
Good luck.

chicle_11 said:
When you tried to doctor, did you go back to 3.0.0? If you didn't, here's a good guide :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1426244
You have to go back to 3.0.0 because it's the only one who can handle partitions. After you successfully do 3.0.0, you can update to 3.0.5 OTA. Then install android the usual way.
Read the whole thing. Around page 12 there's a good work around if you're having trouble with novaterm.
Good luck.
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Yes I did doctor to 3.0.0. The problem is not that I am unable to install WebOs. The problem is that when the setup screen comes and I provide the user-id/password, it doesn't take it. It seems like my Serial Number is somehow blocked by HP since I did a remote erase. Or maybe the remote erase and the initial setup are getting deadlocked - neither the remote erase can complete since its waiting for login to happen - and the login cannot complete since it thinks erase is in progress.

[email protected] said:
Yes I did doctor to 3.0.0. The problem is not that I am unable to install WebOs. The problem is that when the setup screen comes and I provide the user-id/password, it doesn't take it. It seems like my Serial Number is somehow blocked by HP since I did a remote erase. Or maybe the remote erase and the initial setup are getting deadlocked - neither the remote erase can complete since its waiting for login to happen - and the login cannot complete since it thinks erase is in progress.
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Then I think only HP support can help. They have to unblock your serial number / account so you can have access.

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Then I think only HP support can help. They have to unblock your serial number / account so you can have access.
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But I was hoping that even though I cannot log in, I can at least install Android. But to do that, I need to be able to create a cminstall folder and I cannot do that unless I can see the touch-pad file system from my PC. I was hoping that there is a way to do that without logging into WebOs. Meanwhile I am still waiting for HP to respond back to my email !!

Possible solution to this problem - bypass activation
http://forums.webosnation.com/hp-to...ources/317164-activation-bypass-touchpad.html
I haven't tried it but this gives me hope. I might be able to bypass activation after all !!

How to Install Android without setting up webOS
Seems like someone had the exact same problem that I had. Thanks Google.
http://forums.webosnation.com/hp-touchpad/318426-how-install-android-without-setting-up-webos.html

Clean Install (webos doctor disconnect at 4%)

Hey there
I'd like to sell my Touchpad, and wanted to get it clean and updated for the new user
Few weeks ago I updated to CM 10.2 and used tailor
system - 600mb
cache - 200mb
media - 400mb
data - 26gb
Now I booted into webos, wanted to upgrade the catalog app and others, changed date to Jan 2013,but it seems no memory left, now if I press install catalog, or the update, the TP reboots. Under device I see 0.3Gb available
How do I give Webos more space ? Is it the media partition ? Or not at all ? I'll try to resize it but tailor is having trouble to start
Also what are the Resets Options I can use after all is updated ?
Erase USB drive ? Or should I go first with full erase ? (apps install and data+usb drives etc) then update ?
Won't it mess with android install ?
Thanks for help !
Edit : Tailor : after a while, I get Service Error (userId) org.webosinternals.tailor.nod is not running, hmm, any idea to fix this ?
Reinstalled, retrying
I ran ACMEUninstaller, and tried webos doctor, 3.0.5, 3.0.4, 3.0.0, but everytime, it gets disconnected at 4%, using original cable, also tried with samsung's one
Any idea ?
Edit : I deleted media partition from tailor, then remade it, but it said fail, then I did an ext3 one, and the media appeared, but it said system was corrupted and I should try to repair, tried several time, no success, so I plug the tablet, and windows asked to format the partition, not sure If I chose ntfs or fat32, the default one, don't know if webos needs a specific one to work.
Rebooting the tablet now, taking some time but it's reinstalling some apps I think.
I'll retry doctor after that, if partition is here and not broken as before it may work, I hope => It doesn't.
Soo, I did full reset from webos, dunno if that's me or hp, but took me 10m to log in my account... Now restoring some stuff, but it often looses connectivity to hp. Hell !

Ps2004 said:
Hey there
I'd like to sell my Touchpad, and wanted to get it clean and updated for the new user
Few weeks ago I updated to CM 10.2 and used tailor
system - 600mb
cache - 200mb
media - 400mb
data - 26gb
Now I booted into webos, wanted to upgrade the catalog app and others, changed date to Jan 2013,but it seems no memory left, now if I press install catalog, or the update, the TP reboots. Under device I see 0.3Gb available
How do I give Webos more space ? Is it the media partition ? Or not at all ? I'll try to resize it but tailor is having trouble to start
Also what are the Resets Options I can use after all is updated ?
Erase USB drive ? Or should I go first with full erase ? (apps install and data+usb drives etc) then update ?
Won't it mess with android install ?
Thanks for help !
Edit : Tailor : after a while, I get Service Error (userId) org.webosinternals.tailor.nod is not running, hmm, any idea to fix this ?
Reinstalled, retrying
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your media partition is way too small for webos. You need at least 1 GB. I would leave it at 5GB unless you aren't planning on using webos at all.
You have to remove space from data. In Tailor you need to unmount, check, and then resize.
To clean your CM 10.2 you should be able to just clear data from CWM.

Thanks for your reply, seeing you're pretty new, it's really nice
I tried resizing to 2GB, it didn't really work, I mean tailor says partition size is 2GB, then filesystem size is 399MB, webos only finds 399, same when connected to pc, and If I try resizing it says operation failed!
Or Could I try delete that partition without breaking the webos ? Then create it again 2GB from start, not sure tailor would manage but maybe ??
Otherwise, someone told me to use ACMEUninstall, and then run webosdoctor ? Is it really safe ? (I heard about people freezing with that app in past, so I'd like to avoid bad things)
Edit : as Tailor wouldn't manage to resize I followed what someone else told me, but think that was a bad idea, not sure yet, ran ACMEUninstall, then it booted on webos, no pb, I retried to use tailor no success, so I ran webos doctor, but it lost connection after 4%... Now looking about what to do, gonna retry this...
Found this, but doesn't seem to be for the touchpad, and the code gives me nothing so, dunno what to do now

Ps2004 said:
Thanks for your reply, seeing you're pretty new, it's really nice
I tried resizing to 2GB, it didn't really work, I mean tailor says partition size is 2GB, then filesystem size is 399MB, webos only finds 399, same when connected to pc, and If I try resizing it says operation failed!
Or Could I try delete that partition without breaking the webos ? Then create it again 2GB from start, not sure tailor would manage but maybe ??
Otherwise, someone told me to use ACMEUninstall, and then run webosdoctor ? Is it really safe ? (I heard about people freezing with that app in past, so I'd like to avoid bad things)
Edit : as Tailor wouldn't manage to resize I followed what someone else told me, but think that was a bad idea, not sure yet, ran ACMEUninstall, then it booted on webos, no pb, I retried to use tailor no success, so I ran webos doctor, but it lost connection after 4%... Now looking about what to do, gonna retry this...
Found this, but doesn't seem to be for the touchpad, and the code gives me nothing so, dunno what to do now
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[Guide] Factory condition restoration
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1426244
gives this a shot

Alright thanks I'll try this
Seems easy, if all goes well
Running webosdoctor 3.0.0 now, 18% and going, sweet , after it I'll run 3.0.5, fix the store, and all should be fine, then clean cm10.x install
But, got a little question before I'm done, can you switch webos user account, email, without reseting the TP ? (and loosing the store fix ?)
Or should I be ok just getting a new pw, for it before selling, and tell the new buyer to change email and other infos on webos site ?

Touchpad stuck in a read only mode

I have a TP with WebOS 3.0.5, Moboot 0.3.8, and CM10.1.
Whenever I reboot my device, any changes I make are reset. I can't load a new ROM. I can copy files to my SD Card and use them, but when I reboot, the files are gone. I see this is an ongoing issue. But most threads are old. Any fix for this? I just want to be able to run WebOS doctor now, but it won't work. It stops at 12% and says Unable to Reset. I have tried all the various WebOS doctor versions from 3.0.0 to 3.0.5.
Thanks,

asif9t9 said:
I have a TP with WebOS 3.0.5, Moboot 0.3.8, and CM10.1.
Whenever I reboot my device, any changes I make are reset. I can't load a new ROM. I can copy files to my SD Card and use them, but when I reboot, the files are gone. I see this is an ongoing issue. But most threads are old. Any fix for this? I just want to be able to run WebOS doctor now, but it won't work. It stops at 12% and says Unable to Reset. I have tried all the various WebOS doctor versions from 3.0.0 to 3.0.5.
Thanks,
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Use jcsullins hp TouchPad Toolbox. Complete reset.

Moody66 said:
Use jcsullins hp TouchPad Toolbox. Complete reset.
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Cool thanks. This looks like it could be the thing. Do you recommend I do a Full Data Reset to delete both WebOS and Android, then Create WebOS Volume to prep the device for WebOS, then WebOS doctor to get back to factory? Then if all goes well, then re-install Android?
I ask because the Full Data Reset sounds scary. I hope I can still access Moboot from there, for whatever that's worth.

Moody66 said:
Use jcsullins hp TouchPad Toolbox. Complete reset.
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I posted in the Toobox thread, but just fyi, can you believe, Complete Reset didn't work! It's like my Touchpad is in read only mode.

asif9t9 said:
I posted in the Toobox thread, but just fyi, can you believe, Complete Reset didn't work! It's like my Touchpad is in read only mode.
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Same exact thing is happening to me. Toolbox message says:
Code:
ERROR: LVM config erase check FAILED. Possible read-only failure.
I have tried everything, and when it reboots, it is as if nothing changed. Check this out:
Code:
[email protected]:/# lvm.static vgchange -ay --ignorelockingfailure
lvm.static vgchange -ay --ignorelockingfailure
11 logical volume(s) in volume group "store" now active
[email protected]:/#
[email protected]:/# lvm.static vgremove store
lvm.static vgremove store
Do you really want to remove volume group "store" containing 11 logical volumes?
[y/n]: y
y
Do you really want to remove volu......
It says it's removed:
Code:
Logical volume "cm-data" successfully removed
Volume group "store" successfully removed
Then right after:
Code:
lvm.static vgscan --ignorelockingfailure
Reading all physical volumes. This may take a while...
Found volume group "store" using metadata type lvm2
STILL THERE!! LOL this is crazy... is it a hardware problem?
NOTE: This touchpad was sitting dead for 6 months. Charged it, turned it on, read only ..

I'm sad but glad at the same time others are afflicted the same as me. It means others are trying to fix problem so we might get a solution. I have this beautiful touchpad sitting at home dead now. When it did work, it was in read only mode. But the battery died out again and now I can't get it started up at all. But I know the battery itself is fine because when it was working...in read only mode...the battery held charge really well.

asif9t9 said:
I'm sad but glad at the same time others are afflicted the same as me. It means others are trying to fix problem so we might get a solution. I have this beautiful touchpad sitting at home dead now. When it did work, it was in read only mode. But the battery died out again and now I can't get it started up at all. But I know the battery itself is fine because when it was working...in read only mode...the battery held charge really well.
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I used a *touchstone to charge mine. I've heard that can make a difference.
There are few threads on this read-only issue, but no fixes...

camaroqqq said:
I used a touchpad to charge mine. I've heard that can make a difference.
There are few threads on this read-only issue, but no fixes...
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Yeah the Touchstone worked the last time for me to charge it up. But it's not working anymore. Hard to believe two charging methods have failed at the same time. Either way I need to melt down the device to dispose of it because it has personal info and photos on it.

Getting same issues, been trying to sort for ages
This is what the state of mine is
Boots up Moboot 0.3.5
Cyanogenmod does not load just loops
Does boot WebOS but Cannot Wipe the device, it reboots and nothing has changed, even removed a app and reboot and comes back again.
tried toolbox complete wipe says read only mode
WebOS Doctor recovery dies at 12%
tried the Guide to recover and everytime I rescan, it finds the "store" yet again, even after I've deleted it.
now confused, I can charge it too 100% with no issues, but found it best not to charge it on USB recovery mode, seems to charge ok from complete shutdown or in webos.
but read only mode cant fix tried loads of stuff but seems every post with others with issues seems to go off on something else un-related from the issue.

Mine froze on Oct. 11
Yes, somewhat comforting to know that there are a few other cases of this. My first symptoms were that apps were starting to crash. Then I noticed that nothing I did would change the bootup state. Seems like a file system problem, but how could that information get overwritten at bootup? I hope one of the experts can shed some light on this problem.
earthcoder said:
Getting same issues, been trying to sort for ages
This is what the state of mine is
Boots up Moboot 0.3.5
Cyanogenmod does not load just loops
Does boot WebOS but Cannot Wipe the device, it reboots and nothing has changed, even removed a app and reboot and comes back again.
tried toolbox complete wipe says read only mode
WebOS Doctor recovery dies at 12%
tried the Guide to recover and everytime I rescan, it finds the "store" yet again, even after I've deleted it.
now confused, I can charge it too 100% with no issues, but found it best not to charge it on USB recovery mode, seems to charge ok from complete shutdown or in webos.
but read only mode cant fix tried loads of stuff but seems every post with others with issues seems to go off on something else un-related from the issue.
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Well this sucks... I appear to be stuck with the same issue as everyone else in this thread.
I mounted media volume in toolbox and used windows for format the drive. When I mounted it again the data was all still there...

I'm sad to say I trashed mine. Couldn't fix it. And didn't want to sell for parts because the memory had my personal data. Still haven't replaced the tablet because I can't find a better model for the price.

anyone ?
Anyone was able to fix this ?
somehow it can't mount to /data , I've tried all commands related lvm.static ( vgremove , lvremove..... ) it shows removed but after restart still there and nothing has changed.
tptoolbox could not fix , could not remove partitions .
acmeuninstaller and acmeuninstaller2 could not remove .
is this hardware issue or software ?

What version of TPToolBox are you using?
I haven't yet run across this problem in numerous wipes on (7) TPs.
Had one that the Mobo had gone bad on - couldn't do anything on that one. Another had a video gremlin, but I was still able to wipe it.
I wonder if maybe ADB and using shell commands might work?
_Dan

[Q] Cannot Flash To Repair, Boot Loops and Deleted SD card

Greetings, developers and friends!
My Touchpad is now stuck in a continuous boot, with Android backed up in Clockworkmod but I tried restoring and didn't work. A couple of days ago I deleted info on my SD card because it was too bogged down and didn't let me update anything. I did my best but I decided to do this,so I own it. Attempted to flash with Roland's video instructions and got all my files in order: Problem is, on the command prompt I get a message of "Device Not Recognized.
Here's what I see when booting:
Moboot 0. 3. 8
HP logo
boot ClockworkMod
boot Cyanogenmod
boot WebOS
boot webOS Recovery
reboot
shutdown
Then the screen goes light dark, as if the animation of CyanogenMod is going to be up and running but it doesn't. Is there a remedy to fix the SD card problem, maybe that will take care of it and my laptop can see the TouchPad? Backup works fine on ClockworkMod, restore does too but nothing happens.
Any takers? I have another HP tablet that I will not mess with, but I'd rather have both running Android.
Thanks,
chicawhyte

chicawhyte said:
Greetings, developers and friends!
My Touchpad is now stuck in a continuous boot, with Android backed up in Clockworkmod but I tried restoring and didn't work. A couple of days ago I deleted info on my SD card because it was too bogged down and didn't let me update anything. I did my best but I decided to do this,so I own it. Attempted to flash with Roland's video instructions and got all my files in order: Problem is, on the command prompt I get a message of "Device Not Recognized.
Here's what I see when booting:
Moboot 0. 3. 8
HP logo
boot ClockworkMod
boot Cyanogenmod
boot WebOS
boot webOS Recovery
reboot
shutdown
Then the screen goes light dark, as if the animation of CyanogenMod is going to be up and running but it doesn't. Is there a remedy to fix the SD card problem, maybe that will take care of it and my laptop can see the TouchPad? Backup works fine on ClockworkMod, restore does too but nothing happens.
Any takers? I have another HP tablet that I will not mess with, but I'd rather have both running Android.
Thanks,
chicawhyte
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UPDATE: Was able to get through the Android removal, but it bothers me that one of the scrolling messages says, "no cminstall dir found, nothing to install.

chicawhyte said:
UPDATE: Was able to get through the Android removal, but it bothers me that one of the scrolling messages says, "no cminstall dir found, nothing to install.
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TouchPad toolbox will solve it.

Moody66 said:
TouchPad toolbox will solve it.
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Where is the Toolbox? Looked in Preware, Just Type and everywhere else and I can't find it. Thanks.

Found it on another thread, printed it out. Will take care of this after work. Thanks.
chicawhyte

chicawhyte said:
Found it on another thread, printed it out. Will take care of this after work. Thanks.
chicawhyte
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It didn't work....aborted.... :crying:

It didn't, it aborted. I tried Roland's way and attempted to flash it but still the message is the same, no cminstall dir, power off when ready. Let me see if I can get a hold of him or JC (it'd be incredibly lucky for me) I hope my tablet can get the Android back.

Roland asked me about this, this is my reply. Feel free to help out.
chicawhyte said:
It didn't, it aborted. I tried Roland's way and attempted to flash it but still the message is the same, no cminstall dir, power off when ready. Let me see if I can get a hold of him or JC (it'd be incredibly lucky for me) I hope my tablet can get the Android back.
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+Roland Deschain Ok Roland, what I have tried was to gain more memory on my tablet; there were several apps deleted, cached space, did all I could because I had an update via Goo.im. I tried to flash it but I was not successful; asides from that, there were automatic updates that the Touchpad did not allow due to low storage space.That is when I made the serious mistake of deleting the SD card.
I tried to uninstall according to your instructions and then load up the 5M to go back to full throttle, but for whatever reason when the scroll happened the messages were off-key, meaning that folders and files were not installed and not the usual way. That's when I realized there was trouble; I had made two Nandroid backups that are still in the Touchpad. I had only WebOS and no Android to be seen. I restored the most recent backup via ROM Manager and I thought that that would do the trick, still no Android (?).
I decided to try and reach out to my fellows at XDA-Developers because I try everything before I go to the forum; I know the rules there. That's when I was made aware of the Toolbox by JC Sullins and I downloaded it. Followed the instructions hoping to install Android that way but it didn't go past 3 seconds of Step 1. That's when I get the message(s) that there's nothing to install and cuts off.
I am aware of a way to format the SD card (if that is the problem) but for that stuff I need specific instructions, like here, to do so. I have another TouchPad 32 GB that I performed a double-boot as you instructed us to do; what I need is some specific cause(s) and what to do because the idea of wiping everything including WebOS, using WebOS Doctor to reinstall it and then Android does not appeal to me. I want to get to the bottom of it, I like to figure this stuff out and do it myself
Thanks for your work and for helping us turn a good tablet into the best tablet around!

Greetings,
Please read below my message to Roland and my problem below/wanted to add that now on both computers (my laptop where I do the flashes) and my husband's where I copied the Palm, Inc. folder to attempt Android there-the message I get is that "there is no hardware found" on the command prompt.

Please try to follow the instructions and explain things when requested
chicawhyte said:
Hello Roland, help!!!!! Please read this thread and let me know if I have to wipe everything and restart from scratch with WebOS Doctor. Here's the thread from xda-developers: http://forum.xda-developers.com/hp-...r-boot-loops-deleted-sd-t2803190/post53886856. Runs WebOS fine, but no Android to be seen; files are there but it won't let me format the whole tablet. Thanks!
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RolandDeschain79 said:
"Hey so I took a look but that just tells me you're confused and trying to follow multiple sets of instructions. Can you list what you've tried and where you get stuck. There's no cminstall folder in this set of instructions its a ttinstall folder. Did you complete the first steps of uninstalling android and wiping the USB drive?"
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chicawhyte said:
+Roland Deschain Ok Roland, what I have tried was to gain more memory on my tablet; there were several apps deleted, cached space, did all I could because I had an update via Goo.im. I tried to flash it but I was not successful; asides from that, there were automatic updates that the Touchpad did not allow due to low storage space.That is when I made the serious mistake of deleting the SD card.
I tried to uninstall according to your instructions and then load up the 5M to go back to full throttle, but for whatever reason when the scroll happened the messages were off-key, meaning that folders and files were not installed and not the usual way. That's when I realized there was trouble; I had made two Nandroid backups that are still in the Touchpad. I had only WebOS and no Android to be seen. I restored the most recent backup via ROM Manager and I thought that that would do the trick, still no Android (?).
I decided to try and reach out to my fellows at XDA-Developers because I try everything before I go to the forum; I know the rules there. That's when I was made aware of the Toolbox by JC Sullins and I downloaded it. Followed the instructions hoping to install Android that way but it didn't go past 3 seconds of Step 1. That's when I get the message(s) that there's nothing to install and cuts off.
I am aware of a way to format the SD card (if that is the problem) but for that stuff I need specific instructions, like here, to do so. I have another TouchPad 32 GB that I performed a double-boot as you instructed us to do; what I need is some specific cause(s) and what to do because the idea of wiping everything including WebOS, using WebOS Doctor to reinstall it and then Android does not appeal to me. I want to get to the bottom of it, I like to figure this stuff out and do it myself
Thanks for your work and for helping us turn a good tablet into the best tablet around!
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Please try and limit your conversation to one location. People who spam my YouTube channel and the forum with the same questions tend to get permanently banned without warning. Consider this a warning.
chicawhyte said:
......That is when I made the serious mistake of deleting the SD card.
.......I am aware of a way to format the SD card (if that is the problem) but for that stuff I need specific instructions, like here, to do so. I have another TouchPad 32 GB that I performed a double-boot as you instructed us to do; what I need is some specific cause(s) and what to do because the idea of wiping everything including WebOS, using WebOS Doctor to reinstall it and then Android does not appeal to me. I want to get to the bottom of it, I like to figure this stuff out and do it myself
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Secondly if I ask you a question try to answer it as completely as possible. Don't tell me you made a mistake by wiping the SDcard then refuse to tell me how you did this even after I asked specifically about it. Claiming that you know how to wipe the SDcard then asking for specific instructions how to do so doesn't give me confidence in your ability. If you wiped the SDcard from a windows PC then you've made your own problem and completely ignored all the available instructions.
chicawhyte said:
. Followed the instructions hoping to install Android that way but it didn't go past 3 seconds of Step 1. That's when I get the message(s) that there's nothing to install and cuts off.
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I'm having a very hard time understanding why you say you're stuck on step 1, which is installing novacom and backing up your data, when you're talking about step 5 installing android???
Step by step instructions have been provided and I even made a long video that reads you all the info. No one can help you to follow instructions that's up to you. Saying you didn't want to follow the instructions then asking for help is just silly. If you do not wish to change the layout of your touchpad just stick to the Non data media roms.
New Super Easy Way Guide and video available
[ROM GUIDE]How to use the TouchPad Toolbox to install Android "The Super Easy Way"(DM & Non-DM)