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Hi, I was wondering how much a data plan with ATT would cost me on a tilt, I currently dont have one and am relying on WiFi most of the time. The reason I initially did not want a data plan is because I thought they started at $40 a month or so.
On ATT's website, they have unlimited Media Net plans starting at $15 a month...is this the same as the data plans most of you guys have? Will I be able to do everything requiring a 3g connection?
Thanks in advance for any help
I use the unlimited media net with 200 text. I can do everything! Don't let them con you into getting the way more expensive PDA service.
I have unlimited media net (max I think) with unlimited messaging ($35/month). I was conned for several months with the persoanl pda bundle ($50/month) until I found out I can use media net max. Live and learn I guess.
moto2000 said:
Hi, I was wondering how much a data plan with ATT would cost me on a tilt, I currently dont have one and am relying on WiFi most of the time. The reason I initially did not want a data plan is because I thought they started at $40 a month or so.
On ATT's website, they have unlimited Media Net plans starting at $15 a month...is this the same as the data plans most of you guys have? Will I be able to do everything requiring a 3g connection?
Thanks in advance for any help
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I am a tech for att. here is the trick, i am assuming you have a tilt, therefore the imei of the tilt is registered with att, so what you will need to do is put your sim in a crap phone (non pda) then call cust care ant tell them that you want media net, make sure your tilt is not registered with att if it is go to a store with your sim in the non tilt phone and ad media net. its that simple. i do it for people all the time because the pda plan and media net has no technical difference just the money...
I been having Media Net for the longest time, proably since they started having it. I been having PDA phones for it for many years as well. With Media net ($15/m) yes you get to use all the 3g connectivity all you want with no problem.
mchapman007 said:
I use the unlimited media net with 200 text. I can do everything! Don't let them con you into getting the way more expensive PDA service.
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that is the package i have and i get charged fo rinternet use... hmmmm
hey i see what your saying. i have the family messaging plan. in my account can i not just put my sim card in my old razr then go to add feature and select the 15.00 media net... will that work or will i need to call them....
thanks
i just added unlimited media net for $15 by calling the after hours center.
rdt1999 said:
hey i see what your saying. i have the family messaging plan. in my account can i not just put my sim card in my old razr then go to add feature and select the 15.00 media net... will that work or will i need to call them....
thanks
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u need to call afterhours center here is the number if you want to call today
866-801-3600
rdt1999 said:
that is the package i have and i get charged fo rinternet use... hmmmm
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I don't, it's unlimited.....
mchapman007 said:
I don't, it's unlimited.....
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me neither...
here's all the data plans they have in my zip..
http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-ph...10009&LOSGId=&catName=Data/SmartPhone+Connect
perhaps that 15 buck plan is an old "grandfathered" plan that is not available anymore like the 1000 mins I get for $39 plus rollover since 2003
So tell me again how to get unlimited data for $15 ? Wud b nice
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me neither...
here's all the data plans they have in my zip..
http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-ph...10009&LOSGId=&catName=Data/SmartPhone+Connect
perhaps that 15 buck plan is an old "grandfathered" plan that is not available anymore like the 1000 mins I get for $39 plus rollover since 2003
So tell me again how to get unlimited data for $15 ? Wud b nice
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i just got it read previous posts by me
will do thanks for all th info...
I am a sales rep in a AT&T store. On the 15 dollar plan, don't go over 5gb a month. If you do AT&T will charge additional fees and remove your current data plan. They will call before they change your plan.
Already signed up for $40 data plan - Can I "downgrade"
My wife and I each have a Tilt. I have the $40 per month data plan and my wife has no data plan. Is there any way I can "downgrade" my data plan and possibly add a dataplan to my wife's phone to "break even" or possibly even save some money?
atsitalian said:
My wife and I each have a Tilt. I have the $40 per month data plan and my wife has no data plan. Is there any way I can "downgrade" my data plan and possibly add a dataplan to my wife's phone to "break even" or possibly even save some money?
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Call ATT, tell them you have a regular phone, like the W580i, and want to downgrade your data to the standard $15 a month MediaNet.
atsitalian said:
My wife and I each have a Tilt. I have the $40 per month data plan and my wife has no data plan. Is there any way I can "downgrade" my data plan and possibly add a dataplan to my wife's phone to "break even" or possibly even save some money?
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do you use text messages?
How is the best way to check to see if your getting close to the 5gb amount,is it on the phone or ?
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How is the best way to check to see if your getting close to the 5gb amount,is it on the phone or ?
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If you are only browsing on your phone, you are never going to use 5gb a month. That is mainly if you are going to connect it to your computer for the internet.
Hey thanks for the reply well at 15.00 i think ill get the service on my old cell phone and switch over to the tillt,thanks man....
I've upgraded to the Froyo floating around here and there is the Mobile AP option in the wireless settings. Talking to my friend who has an Incredible, he says that Verizon charges $20 a month to use what I am assuming to be the equivalent thing but on their network.
What I want to know is, do you have to pay to use the built in Mobile AP setting, or should I download a different wifi tether app, or what?
Thanks!
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I've upgraded to the Froyo floating around here and there is the Mobile AP option in the wireless settings. Talking to my friend who has an Incredible, he says that Verizon charges $20 a month to use what I am assuming to be the equivalent thing but on their network.
What I want to know is, do you have to pay to use the built in Mobile AP setting, or should I download a different wifi tether app, or what?
Thanks!
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No you don't have to pay to use it.
Thanks! Would you happen to know if my friend is correct in saying that he has to pay $20 / month to use the Incredible's version of this?
It seems so un-ATT not to charge for something....
My understanding of it is that the mobile ap option in the leaked froyo is free but not because att is deciding not to charge for it, it is because this is in fact a leaked version of froyo and when it officially comes out they will find a way to charge for it or just include an att version of it that you will have to pay for and this new application that will be on the official froyo will be the equivalent of what your friend has for verizon. Hope that helps and if you want to be extra careful just download one of the wireless tethering apps
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Thanks! Would you happen to know if my friend is correct in saying that he has to pay $20 / month to use the Incredible's version of this?
It seems so un-ATT not to charge for something....
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Oh ATT would love to have you believe you have to pay their twenty dollar subscription fee to enable tethering on your phone as well.
My guess (and this is just a guess as I have no experience with verizon) is if your friend can get either easy tether or another such app on his phone he would not need to pay them either. Again I don't know anything about verizon or the contract your friend has with them.
Yeah, I poked around a bit on the Incrdible subforum and it seems like all curernt wifi tether apps require root access, which he does not have (I don't want to be his IT guy so I'm not gonna root it for him lol)
vsboxerboy1 said:
I've upgraded to the Froyo floating around here and there is the Mobile AP option in the wireless settings. Talking to my friend who has an Incredible, he says that Verizon charges $20 a month to use what I am assuming to be the equivalent thing but on their network.
What I want to know is, do you have to pay to use the built in Mobile AP setting, or should I download a different wifi tether app, or what?
Thanks!
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What Data Plan do you have with AT&T? If you weren't grandfathered in on the old $30 unlimited plan and you exceed your cap you could end up paying quite a bit for tethering.
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What Data Plan do you have with AT&T? If you weren't grandfathered in on the old $30 unlimited plan and you exceed your cap you could end up paying quite a bit for tethering.
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how can you "exceed a cap" on an "unlimited plan"?
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how can you "exceed a cap" on an "unlimited plan"?
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You can't.
But there was a point at which you would raise flags and be investigated.
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You can't.
But there was a point at which you would raise flags and be investigated.
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Investigated for what exactly? Who would do the investigating? And a what point would the flags raise?
dayv said:
how can you "exceed a cap" on an "unlimited plan"?
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Read a little slower next time. I said if he wasn't ("weren't") grandfathered in on the unlimited plan.
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Investigated for what exactly? Who would do the investigating? And a what point would the flags raise?
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1. Excessive data usage, even on an unlimited plan. (A clue to tethering when tethering isn't allowed...like, say, with a Captivate.
2. AT&T
3. Don't know.
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Read a little slower next time. I said if he wasn't ("weren't") grandfathered in on the unlimited plan.
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I am a slow reader, but I still missed that up. LOL
dayv said:
I am a slow reader, but I still missed that up. LOL
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No worries.
I have unlimited data, grandfathered in.
My friend has unlimited data as well, but AFAIK there isn't an easy root solution for the Incredible yet - thus, there is no wifi tether app (that I know of) for him to use.
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I have unlimited data, grandfathered in.
My friend has unlimited data as well, but AFAIK there isn't an easy root solution for the Incredible yet - thus, there is no wifi tether app (that I know of) for him to use.
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The simple answer is - if you use tethering and not paying for it, then you are violating the terms of service. Tethering is officially a separate product.
But, the captivate has no AT&T tethering app, so they have no easy way to monitor tethering usage. If you use a lot of data, they may start looking, and even then, they have to do some deep packet inspection to determine that you are tethering and not doing all this on your phone - and even deep packet inspection is not 100% conclusive as you could say you are using a custom browser that makes your phone look like Firefox on Windows 7.
So even if they were suspicious, all they could first is send you a letter about bandwidth. They would have a hard time proving anything. BUT, they can always terminate service - they can say they don't want you as a customer any more.
The only people that get in trouble for tethering are the ones that run their whole house internet off their phone. Occasional use, and under 5GB per month, and they wont bother you.
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The simple answer is - if you use tethering and not paying for it, then you are violating the terms of service. Tethering is officially a separate product.
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What? If this is true, and by this logic, I must be violating my terms of service every time I use google navigator -- after all att has their own paid subscription for att navigator.
I must be violating my terms of service every time i use dropbox since att paid service net share and storage.
I must be violation my terms of service every time i use google talk to send a text message since att has a texting plan.
I must be violating my terms of service every time i use a non att product or service on my phone if att offers a paid version of that service.
As far as tethering being an "officially separate product" exactly what do I get from att if I pay them for their subscription tethering plan and I have a captivate? I will tell you, I would get nothing, nada, zilch. ATT has no tethering product for the captivate, even though they are more than happy to charge anyone willing to pay for it.
As far as I'm concerned, and I'm not all that concerned, I pay for the phone, the data, and the rest of the services, I shall use them as I want to. Mind you I will be smart about it as I only have a 200MB a month plan, but that's not a lot of usage and would probably never raise a red flag to AT&T.
To tether or not to tether! It's not really a question anymore.
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What? If this is true, and by this logic, I must be violating my terms of service every time I use google navigator -- after all att has their own paid subscription for att navigator.
I must be violating my terms of service every time i use dropbox since att paid service net share and storage.
I must be violation my terms of service every time i use google talk to send a text message since att has a texting plan.
I must be violating my terms of service every time i use a non att product or service on my phone if att offers a paid version of that service.
As far as tethering being an "officially separate product" exactly what do I get from att if I pay them for their subscription tethering plan and I have a captivate? I will tell you, I would get nothing, nada, zilch. ATT has no tethering product for the captivate, even though they are more than happy to charge anyone willing to pay for it.
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Important distinction being that tethering may be a violation of your services contract. Nothing seems to indicate that "duplicating core functionality" (thanks for the term, Apple) constitutes a violation of AT&T's acceptable use policy.
I just browsed through some of the restrictions listed on AT&T's website. I did see some information about plans that do include tethering, but I did not find an express prohibition of tethering for other plans. Seemed that the tethering plans may have just eased the process. I am personally on an unlimited plan, but since this isn't offered anymore I was not able to find the specific terms of this plan. Can anybody point to an actual paragraph in a terms of use statement or contractual language expressly prohibiting tethering?
Also, has anybody actually been "flagged" for tethering? I'm curious because it seems that warnings abound, but I've yet to see a person actually complain of having been so much as given notice of violation by AT&T.
Thanks. My first post. I like this place.
I am guessing this will show up as a smart phone on ATT now and require the Smart Phone $15 200MB plan. I use about 800MB a month. Not sure another $10-$15 is worth 600MB of Carrier data, I like the idea of not having to worry about data use JIC.
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I am guessing this will show up as a smart phone on ATT now and require the Smart Phone $15 200MB plan. I use about 800MB a month. Not sure another $10-$15 is worth 600MB of Carrier data, I like the idea of not having to worry about data use JIC.
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You may run into issues using the $15/month plan honestly. I know that AT&T is able to see that the N7000 is a smartphone, so you could well be hassled for that and possibly automatically "upgraded" to a smartphone data plan.
Unfortunately, AT&T no longer honours upgrading unlimited data if you're coming from the old $15/month medianet plan, so it'd have to be a tiered plan.
Now, having said all that, there's still the GoPhone option that some people have taken. Basically, $50 a month for unlimited everything, pay-as-you-go.
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You may run into issues using the $15/month plan honestly. I know that AT&T is able to see that the N7000 is a smartphone, so you could well be hassled for that and possibly automatically "upgraded" to a smartphone data plan.
Unfortunately, AT&T no longer honours upgrading unlimited data if you're coming from the old $15/month medianet plan, so it'd have to be a tiered plan.
Now, having said all that, there's still the GoPhone option that some people have taken. Basically, $50 a month for unlimited everything, pay-as-you-go.
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Thanks...That is what I was afraid of. IF I even used 1.9GB of data it would be worth it. But I am caught in the middle. Over 200MB under 1GB Maybe I cam port both device numbers to the GoPhone. We are paying about $100 a month for both phones with 750 minutes UL data and no messaging plan. (we use FB messaging and GoChat) Can't imagine how we could get unlimited everything for $50 each or why it would be less expensive....on a pay as you go plan except for the fact that we don't need subsidized phones.
If you don't mind paying for a backup phone, you can get a refurb Nokia E71 on Straight Talk and be on AT&T network with unlimited everything for $45/month. Their unlimited data is not truly unlimited but there is a safe threshold of 100MB/day. That particular device (E71) comes with an unlocked sim card that can be used in the note with the correct APN settings, whereas a lot of their devices come with a sim that is locked to the device. I have been using the plan for almost two months now myself.
If you do this it is important to activate and use the service on the E71 to make sure there aren't any kinks, probably a few days at least, before migrating the sim to the note. If you have problems with the service, be sure to move the sim back into the E71 before calling support.
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If you don't mind paying for a backup phone, you can get a refurb Nokia E71 on Straight Talk and be on AT&T network with unlimited everything for $45/month. Their unlimited data is not truly unlimited but there is a safe threshold of 100MB/day. That particular device (E71) comes with an unlocked sim card that can be used in the note with the correct APN settings, whereas a lot of their devices come with a sim that is locked to the device. I have been using the plan for almost two months now myself.
If you do this it is important to activate and use the service on the E71 to make sure there aren't any kinks, probably a few days at least, before migrating the sim to the note. If you have problems with the service, be sure to move the sim back into the E71 before calling support.
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This is exactly what I plan on doing- waiting to pick my e71 up from UPS after winter session exams are over. I'll report on results.
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This is exactly what I plan on doing- waiting to pick my e71 up from UPS after winter session exams are over. I'll report on results.
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Saw those packages at Wal Mart.$45 unlimited everything. I m guessing its the same MediaNet plan and APN I am already on with the SGS II Last speedtest run was 2.8MB DL. 520K up. Not bad for MediaNet.
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Saw those packages at Wal Mart.$45 unlimited everything. I m guessing its the same MediaNet plan and APN I am already on with the SGS II Last speedtest run was 2.8MB DL. 520K up. Not bad for MediaNet.
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I range from 1-4Mb DL, usually steady 1Mb UL. Some get higher, it depends on area I guess. My requirement was that most Youtube videos don't need to buffer for more than a second or two, so I'm more than happy with the result.
I don't think its the same APN, but that doesn't mean that the APN isn't 'treated the same way' so-to-speak.
At the end of the day, it's a great plan- the only reason I'm not on MediaNet I guess is that I didn't want to have to root and delete my EFS folder to guarantee being 'safe' (at least while my warranty is still available after all the trouble I went arranging for it).
It's also interesting to note- I have yet to actually power on the E71- I just removed the SIM and microsd. It looks like a nice 'backup phone' that I will use while I lifeguard during the summer (beach weather killed the old Iphone 3G)
So T-Mobile's 50MB hard cap on data roaming with the unlimited data plan is seriously cramping my style. Knowing that whenever I'm out of T-Mobile coverage area, my phone roams on AT&T, today I picked up a prepaid SIM on AT&T. I went with the $65 smartphone plan, just so I could try it for a month and see if I might want to switch from T-Mobile.
For those who don't know, it includes unlimited talk and text, plus 1GB of data. After using it tonight, I'm quite aghast at some of the restrictions AT&T places on these prepaid plans.
First off, prepaid accounts don't get access to MyAT&T, neither on the web nor the Android app. This means that the only way you can check your data usage is to dial *777*3# every time. To add insult, it only tells you the amount of data you have remaining, not how much you've used. Its easy to do simple arithmetic, but couldn't they show data usage in the same manner everyone else does? I've never seen anyone show data remaining in lieu of data used.
Next, it appears, for prepaid users anyway, that speedtest.net is blocked somehow. When opening the app, it finds a server, does the ping test, then hangs, unable to start a download. Trying it over WiFi works fine, so it would seem to be an AT&T issue.
Next, they do not offer any prepaid plan with more than 1GB of data. The guy at the store said that it will just cut off after you reach the 1GB cap, but the info sheet I got says they would bill $0.05 per megabyte, deducted from my prepaid account. This would NEVER work for me if using AT&T as my daily carrier. 1GB is child's play for me. I'd burn through that in a week.
Because of all this, I'm kinda faced with a predicament. I will either need to switch to an AT&T individual postpaid month-to-month plan with 450 minutes, unlimited texting, and 5 GB of data for $110/mo and get the vast coverage, or I can stick with my T-Mobile Simple Choice plan where I get unlimited talk, text, and data for $70/mo, but am limited to 50MB of data roaming. And before anyone mentions an AT&T MVNO like Straight Talk, it's not an option for me. I have friends that use Straight Talk with an AT&T SIM, and I can tell you horror story after horror story of data throttling headaches. In addition, most of them have had issues with traffic prioritization. It can be a real problem during heavy use times in this market.
So I'm going to go straight to the source and either stay with T-Mobile or go to AT&T. Any thoughts or suggestions? I'm really torn.
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You should check out AT&T's $50 pre-paid go-phone plan. If they don't recognize your IMEI, then you essentially have unlimited data (HSPA+ included), voice, and text for $50 a month.
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You should check out AT&T's $50 pre-paid go-phone plan. If they don't recognize your IMEI, then you essentially have unlimited data (HSPA+ included), voice, and text for $50 a month.
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I assume you mean if they don't recognize the IMEI as a smartphone?
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I assume you mean if they don't recognize the IMEI as a smartphone?
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Exactly.
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Interesting. That may definitely be worth checking out. The bigger question would be, how long until that IMEI *IS* recognized as a smartphone? haha
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I recently switched to AT&T prepaid too so maybe I can help
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First off, prepaid accounts don't get access to MyAT&T, neither on the web nor the Android app. This means that the only way you can check your data usage is to dial *777*3# every time. To add insult, it only tells you the amount of data you have remaining, not how much you've used. Its easy to do simple arithmetic, but couldn't they show data usage in the same manner everyone else does? I've never seen anyone show data remaining in lieu of data used.
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While I agree it's kind of weird that they do that, I can kind of see why. With prepaid, you buy it, then drain it. This way, you can see how much you have left before you need to reload. I'm not disagreeing with you and saying it's good that they do it this way, I'm just saying that maybe I can see why.
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Next, it appears, for prepaid users anyway, that speedtest.net is blocked somehow. When opening the app, it finds a server, does the ping test, then hangs, unable to start a download. Trying it over WiFi works fine, so it would seem to be an AT&T issue.
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I've noticed this too. I can't get speedtest to work. However, I know that I am getting HSPA+ 15 when using data. I don't know how fast it is, but I am getting HSPA+ 15.
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Next, they do not offer any prepaid plan with more than 1GB of data. The guy at the store said that it will just cut off after you reach the 1GB cap, but the info sheet I got says they would bill $0.05 per megabyte, deducted from my prepaid account. This would NEVER work for me if using AT&T as my daily carrier. 1GB is child's play for me. I'd burn through that in a week.
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While one gig is enough for me, I can see if you use more. Technically, you can buy data in increments, at $25/gb. This can get expensive basically after the first gb. My solution? In your next paragraph.
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Because of all this, I'm kinda faced with a predicament. I will either need to switch to an AT&T individual postpaid month-to-month plan with 450 minutes, unlimited texting, and 5 GB of data for $110/mo and get the vast coverage
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Right here. If I found that I used more than one gb a month, I would go month-to-month post-paid, get better coverage (coverage isn't a deal for me, but whatever), get way more data, and get more options from AT&T, all for cheaper than prepaid. Basically, I'm paying $50/month for prepaid and getting 1 gb a month and 250 minutes (I barely ever talk on the phone, that's plenty). To add another gb would hike the price another $25 up to $75. For post-paid, I got quoted by a salesperson at my local store 450 minutes, 3gb, and unlimited texting for $70/month.
So basically, if I found myself using more than one gb a month of data, I would go post-paid, and that's what I suggest you do. That's my two cents, anyway.
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As for that $50 unlimited everything plan that was posted earlier: I've heard of people getting their Nexus 4 working on it, but that plan is for feature phones. Why does that matter? Since the plan is for feature phones, the data is throttled at 2G speeds. I can't remember using 2G, but I'm pretty sure even web-browsing would be painful at that speed. That's just what I've heard, anyway.
If you're having problems with speedtest go into apn and clear our everything but apn, mmsc, mms proxy
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Wow, in Canada people complain about 3 year contracts (I never sign them myself thank god), but our monthly prices are not this insane!
For $50/month postpaid I'm getting 500 minutes, unlimited incoming, unlimited calling between 6 pm and 7 am and on weekends, unlimited SMS, and 1 GB of LTE data. And that's on a subsidiary of Rogers which is Canada's AT&T pretty much.
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If you're having problems with speedtest go into apn and clear our everything but apn, mmsc, mms proxy
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That worked! I'm getting about 6 megs down and one meg up inside my apartment. That's about what I get with T-Mobile. I'll see what it's like outside with a good strong signal tomorrow.
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If you're having problems with speedtest go into apn and clear our everything but apn, mmsc, mms proxy
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That worked! I'm getting about 6 megs down and one meg up inside my apartment. That's about what I get with T-Mobile. I'll see what it's like outside with a good strong signal tomorrow.
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Worked here, too. Now my only question is this: should I permanently keep my APN with just those 3 settings or does that lag only apply to the speedtest? FYI: I'm only pulling 3.6mbps down and 1mbps up with that APN on that test.
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You should check out AT&T's $50 pre-paid go-phone plan. If they don't recognize your IMEI, then you essentially have unlimited data (HSPA+ included), voice, and text for $50 a month.
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The $65 plan the OP is on is a GoPhone plan. I also don't see your reasoning about the IMEI. Even if they don't have the IMEI in their database they can still see your data use and there is a 1GB cap regardless of type of data used (2G, 3G or 4G). The OP obviously needs a plan with more data and the only way to get it reliably is to pay for it.
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I also don't see your reasoning about the IMEI. Even if they don't have the IMEI in their database they can still see your data use and there is a 1GB cap regardless of type of data used (2G, 3G or 4G).
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Not sure if I fully understood your post. Are you certain that on the $50 Unlimited Call, Text, & Data GoPhone Plan that there is a 1GB cap even though it states it is unlimited on the AT&T website? If so, is that from experience?
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Not sure if I fully understood your post. Are you certain that on the $50 Unlimited Call, Text, & Data GoPhone Plan that there is a 1GB cap even though it states it is unlimited on the AT&T website? If so, is that from experience?
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The $50 unlimited plan only has unlimited data for basic phones, smartphones have to add a data package to this plan. Which now I think I understand the other persons post, he's claiming that since the IMEI is not registered it shows up as a dumbphone and he's able to use the $50 unlimited plan as is. I didn't even think of going with that option and paid for a separate 1 GB data plan with the $25 monthly calling plan. After I use up the 1 GB of data, which I never have, I should get charged the per KB fee. Of course once AT&T adds the IMEI to their database, if they haven't already, they will tell you you need a data plan to keep that service.
So as an update, I went to an AT&T store today and signed up for a postpaid account. 450 minutes, unlimited texting, 5GB data. Unfortunately I canceled the service 2 hours later. First, I get MyAT&T set up only to discover that the app has no widget and getting to your data usage requires 3 or 4 taps. Strike one. Both Verizon and T-Mobile have data widgets so you can check your usage at a glance or one tap at max.
Strike two was visual voicemail. After sideloading AT&T's visual voicemail app, it wouldn't work. I called AT&T's customer service and after looking, the rep (who was very helpful) said that he couldn't provision visual voicemail on my account because it's only included on LTE accounts. Unless the SIM was tied to an IMEI of an LTE device, visual voicemail on the N4 is a lost cause. I need visual voicemail because navigating past voicemail messages via the system prompts over the phone is a deal breaker. If you get a lot of phone calls and messages, visual voicemail is the greatest thing ever.
Strike three was the data speeds. I drove to five different areas of town doing speed tests and never got more than 2.6mbps down. At these same sites, I would always try the T-Mobile SIM and never got below 9mbps down. The other night at my apartment, I was getting about 6mbps down on AT&T prepaid, but it was late at night on a weekday. Clearly the network is going to be busier at mid morning on a Saturday and it showed.
Luckily, since I canceled within 3 days, I wasn't liable for any charges and basically we just called it a wash.
For now I'll stick with T-Mobile since they give me the stuff I've grown accustomed to, plus truly unlimited data. I'll just learn to live with the 50MB data roaming cap.
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This month I decided to upgrade from the $30 5gb value plan to the $70 unlimited 4g plan in order to save on my home internet by tethering via wifi for my home network. I've had tmobile since february and I always go over the 5gb limit rather quickly and end up spending almost as much as the unlimited 4g plan per month because I have to top up early or suffer painfully waiting for a page to load with their god-awful 2g speeds.
Well, it seems tmobile isn't happy about how much data I've used since upgrading (close to 50gb in 3 weeks), and my internet speeds have PLUMMETED to the point where I'm lucky if I get 10kbps download speeds. Hmmm....that seems eerily similar to the speeds I would get when throttled down to 2g speed prior to upgrading my service plan.
In the past weeks I've been re-routed to a tmo page that says I'm either over my limit or not authorized to tether a couple of times, but I was able to bypass this by simply resetting my wifi access point, or at worst rebooting my phone. Well, now it seems they're tired of me outsmarting them, so they just throttled me. BTW, my phone shows I'm able to connect to h, h+, and 4g.
Having said that, here's why I'm so upset about all of this: Last night I called tmo customer service, and a rep told me there is an outage in my area, and it's expected to be resolved in a week (hmmm....my month ends in a week....coincidence???) So I called up my buddy and had him bring his nexus 4 over to my house so we could see if it really was an outage. Guess what??? He was able to connect to h, h+, and 4g, and when he ran a speedtest he got the results we both expected....normal h, h+ and 4g speeds....NOT 10kbps like I've been getting.
So, my summation: Tmobile is lying to their customers who use too much data, telling them that there is an outage in order to keep them on a leash. I don't remember signing/agreeing to anything that says "I will agree to pay for unlimited 4g data, as long as I limit my monthly data usage"
Anyone else experience this issue, or am I the only one?
Lets see if I got this straight..
you were tethering
They told you, you were not authorized to tether. Probably because you were over your 500mb allowance.
You tethered anyways, raking in 50gb of data used.
and you complain they are throttling you?
So you break their policy and complain they do something about it?
Move along here....nothing to see.
SinisterDragon said:
Lets see if I got this straight..
you were tethering
They told you, you were not authorized to tether. Probably because you were over your 500mb allowance.
You tethered anyways, raking in 50gb of data used.
and you complain they are throttling you?
So you break their policy and complain they do something about it?
Move along here....nothing to see.
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I can't wait for the "but unlimited means unlimited!" crap to come.
You paid for unlimited mobile data usage, without tethering. What made you think you could then turn around and use this as your home internet service provider?
SinisterDragon said:
Lets see if I got this straight..
you were tethering
They told you, you were not authorized to tether. Probably because you were over your 500mb allowance.
You tethered anyways, raking in 50gb of data used.
and you complain they are throttling you?
So you break their policy and complain they do something about it?
Move along here....nothing to see.
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Who told me I wasn't authorized??? A random webpage I was re-routed to, not any service agreement I signed.
also, if you acually read my post you would see that I didn't complain I'm throttled. I'm pissed they lied and said it's an outage, rather than just coming clean and saying "you tethered too much"
You did something bad...they did something bad. You both are even. Why get mad over something you're not supposed to be doing?
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defnow said:
You did something bad...they did something bad. You both are even.
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I did nothing wrong. I didn't agree to not tether, and my phone (sold officially by tmo with the same firmware and capabilities) comes with the option to tether. If they don't want me doing it, it should 1. clearly state in the agreement this is prohibited. 2. stop selling phones with the ability to tether out of the box.
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and my phone (sold officially by tmo with the same firmware and capabilities) comes with the option to tether.
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This logic is flawed due to the fact that phones come with the option of using mobile data, you still need to pay for the option to utilize it.
"But my phone came with the functionality to make phone calls, why should I have to pay to do so?"
Whether they lied or not, it's right on their site that the limit of tethering is 500MB on the $70 plan and you abused it. Be lucky they didn't terminate you.
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1. clearly state in the agreement this is prohibited.
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http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/plans/mobile-broadband-plans.aspx
Limited-time offers; subject to change. Taxes and fees additional. Compatible device required; not voice-capable. Domestic use only; no domestic roaming. Mobile Internet Plans: Partial megabytes rounded up. Full speeds available up to monthly allotment; then slowed to up to 2G speeds for rest of billing cycle. Domestic use only; no roaming. Roaming charges may apply to use via non-T-Mobile-owned Wi-Fi networks. Credit approval, deposit and $10 SIM starter kit may be required. If you switch plans, you may be bound by existing or extended term (including early termination provisions) and/or charged an up to $200 fee. Regulatory Programs Fee of $1.61 per line/month applies. Taxes approx. 6–28% of your monthly bill. Full speeds available up to monthly allotment; then, slowed to up to 2G speeds for rest of billing cycle. On-network and domestic roaming data allotments differ: 500 MB full-speed plan includes 10 MB roaming; 2.5 GB, 4.5 GB and Unlimited 4G full-speed plans include 50 MB roaming; 6.5 GB and 8.5 GB full-speed plans include 100 MB roaming; and 10.5 GB and 12.5 GB full-speed plans include 200 MB roaming. Unlimited text includes unlimited nationwide text, and picture and video messaging.Pay-In-Advance Mobile Internet Plans: Service available for time period and/or usage amount provided by Pass. For time period, a day is 12:00 a.m. to 11:59 p.m., based on time zone associated with account phone number. Usage rounded up to the nearest KB each session. Only one Pass may be active at a time. Account suspended after 365 days of inactivity. Data only; does not include voice, messaging or Wi-Fi services. Domestic only; no roaming. $10 Mobile Internet Discount: Requires one other line of post-paid phone service with T-Mobile on the same account as Mobile Internet line. Smartphone Mobile Hotspot: Qualifying plan required. Plan data allotment applies; Unlimited 4G data plan includes 500MB of tethering. No domestic roaming. Use of connected devices subject to T-Mobile Terms and Conditions. Coverage not available everywhere. Network Management: Data traffic of plans with limited high-speed data allotments greater than 2GB will be prioritized over other currently offered plans during periods of congestion. Service may be slowed, suspended, terminated, or restricted for misuse, abnormal use, interference with our network or ability to provide quality service to other users, or significant roaming.
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hp420 said:
I did nothing wrong. I didn't agree to not tether, and my phone (sold officially by tmo with the same firmware and capabilities) comes with the option to tether. If they don't want me doing it, it should 1. clearly state in the agreement this is prohibited. 2. stop selling phones with the ability to tether out of the box.
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Whether you knowingly accepted it or not you did. When you purchased the $70 unlimited you agreed to only 500mb of tether data. It says it on your paper work, I know cause I just looked. It says it online. Whether you noticed that or not is a different questions. As far as lying to you, oh well. You were going behind their back and doing something you weren't supposed to do. As someone said before, you are lucky they didn't just terminate you.
What does this have to do with Nexus 4, apart from the fact it was used to tether?
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What does this have to do with Nexus 4, apart from the fact it was used to tether?
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Do you see a tmobile forum?
Also, afaik, nexus devices are the only ones I know of that come with the ability to tether built into the firmware. All other devices (again, afaik) may have the option in settings, but you have to pay for the plan to actually enable it.
As said already, you are only allotted 500mb of tethering with that plan. You went over, they throttled you.
As far as the CSR that lied to you, I'm sure they didn't know what was going on, so they just said there's an outage because they weren't sure what else to say. Getting mad at T-Mo because one CSR didn't know what they were talking about (none, from any company, do) is like getting mad at Red Lobster because a waiter recited the wrong specials of the day. It was a mistake that one CSR made. It's not like the T-Mo board put the order down to all CSR's to outright lie to customers so they could sit around their meeting table and laugh as customers get angry.
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Also, afaik, nexus devices are the only ones I know of that come with the ability to tether built into the firmware. All other devices (again, afaik) may have the option in settings, but you have to pay for the plan to actually enable it.
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I don't see you complaining that you have a phone bill because you bought a phone that makes phone calls. Same logic.. you need to pay to play.
algorhythm said:
http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/plans/mobile-broadband-plans.aspx
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Limited-time offers; subject to change. Taxes and fees additional. Compatible device required; not voice-capable. Domestic use only; no domestic roaming. Mobile Internet Plans: Partial megabytes rounded up. Full speeds available up to monthly allotment; then slowed to up to 2G speeds for rest of billing cycle. Domestic use only; no roaming. Roaming charges may apply to use via non-T-Mobile-owned Wi-Fi networks. Credit approval, deposit and $10 SIM starter kit may be required. If you switch plans, you may be bound by existing or extended term (including early termination provisions) and/or charged an up to $200 fee. Regulatory Programs Fee of $1.61 per line/month applies. Taxes approx. 6–28% of your monthly bill. Full speeds available up to monthly allotment; then, slowed to up to 2G speeds for rest of billing cycle. On-network and domestic roaming data allotments differ: 500 MB full-speed plan includes 10 MB roaming; 2.5 GB, 4.5 GB and Unlimited 4G full-speed plans include 50 MB roaming; 6.5 GB and 8.5 GB full-speed plans include 100 MB roaming; and 10.5 GB and 12.5 GB full-speed plans include 200 MB roaming. Unlimited text includes unlimited nationwide text, and picture and video messaging.Pay-In-Advance Mobile Internet Plans: Service available for time period and/or usage amount provided by Pass. For time period, a day is 12:00 a.m. to 11:59 p.m., based on time zone associated with account phone number. Usage rounded up to the nearest KB each session. Only one Pass may be active at a time. Account suspended after 365 days of inactivity. Data only; does not include voice, messaging or Wi-Fi services. Domestic only; no roaming. $10 Mobile Internet Discount: Requires one other line of post-paid phone service with T-Mobile on the same account as Mobile Internet line. Smartphone Mobile Hotspot: Qualifying plan required. Plan data allotment applies; Unlimited 4G data plan includes 500MB of tethering. No domestic roaming. Use of connected devices subject to T-Mobile Terms and Conditions. Coverage not available everywhere. Network Management: Data traffic of plans with limited high-speed data allotments greater than 2GB will be prioritized over other currently offered plans during periods of congestion. Service may be slowed, suspended, terminated, or restricted for misuse, abnormal use, interference with our network or ability to provide quality service to other users, or significant roaming.
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Thank you for pointing that out... I never saw any of that
Now...as I said, I was aware that it's prohibited, but I was not aware of any TOS stating this.
I'm still not happy about them lying to me, though lol They could have at least said "you were a data hog, so we throttled you, as per our TOS". At this point I would have shrugged my shoulders, and been happy they let me go 3 weeks at the rate I had. Lying to customers, no matter what the reason is definitely not winning them any awards, to say the least. I mean, hypothetically speaking, if they terminate my service for using this much data, what are they gonna say? "our tower is completely inoperable, and maybe we'll have it fixed in two years"???? lol
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Do you see a tmobile forum?
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support.t-mobile.com/
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thedudejdog said:
support.t-mobile.com/
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I thought it went without saying that I was referring to this website. I wasn't aware I had to clearly state every single detail as if I'm lawyering this sh!t
way to be a douchebag
Come and ask a random unrelated question that eventually leads to someone reading and highlighting some ToS for you, exercise passive-aggressive behavior when someone disagrees with your opinion.
way to be a douchebag
they didnt disagree....they pointed to a completely different website!!!
way to miss the point entirely! and still be a douchebag
Sent form my Paranoid Nexus 4
Instead of calling people douchebags, try this next time:
1. Open the 'Nexus 4 General' forum
2. Locate the 'Nexus 4-T-Mobile U.S.A Thread'
3. Open the 'Nexus 4-T-Mobile U.S.A Thread'
4. Ask your very important question
5. ???
6. Profit.