Is there any other phone unable to root 2.3? - LG Optimus Black

Is there any other phone unable to root 2.3?

exe127 said:
Is there any other phone unable to root 2.3?
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yeap. And guess who the manufacturer is..... LG. It is the optimus 3d

jimakos29 said:
yeap. And guess who the manufacturer is..... LG. It is the optimus 3d
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Apart from LG, is Sony, HTC also got this problem ?

exe127 said:
Apart from LG, is Sony, HTC also got this problem ?
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After an update every OS is unrootable, or at least should be for a certain time, since no provider/producer wants his product to be rooted.
It's hard for them to prove, that it's been rooted, but you can destroy the device with it, by e.g. Overclocking the CPU. They have to repair it on warranty,--> the patch root methods in order to keep users from rooting, but it never lasts long
So some providers lock it harder and some only spend 2 secs on patching

exe127 said:
Apart from LG, is Sony, HTC also got this problem ?
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It's not a problem. It's a feature. Nobody should release rootable phones. That means there are serious vulnerabilities in their software, exploitable by malware.
What they should do is to have an option to have adb shells running as root. Most users won't know what it is anyway and won't be able to mess up their phones, but for those who know, installing Superuser.apk would be trivial. Everyone wins.

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I think LG has the best&superior programmers which are invincible !

I think LG has the best&superior programmers which are invincible!
If not, otherwise, how come the root for v20B is not came out yet?
exe127 said:
I think LG has the best&superior programmers which are invincible!
If not, otherwise, how come the root for v20B is not came out yet?
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Lol, it's simple: noone cares about v20B anymore cause everybody who wants to have a rooted system, simply flashes redy's or other repacks of my howsoever-rooted version and is happy with it. Why aren't you, too?
U always moarn about the root... IT happend, I WAS LUCKY, maybe I am just a LG developer... however, take it as it is, anyone will soon bring out a rooting method, by another exploit and everybody will life happily ever after
Hope anybody can confirm that root was possible then
N00BY0815 said:
Lol, it's simple: noone cares about v20B anymore cause everybody who wants to have a rooted system, simply flashes redy's or other repacks of my howsoever-rooted version and is happy with it. Why aren't you, too?
U always moarn about the root... IT happend, I WAS LUCKY, maybe I am just a LG developer... however, take it as it is, anyone will soon bring out a rooting method, by another exploit and everybody will life happily ever after
Hope anybody can confirm that root was possible then
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crying, because I am using HongKong version, V20B now. No root makes my battery draining very fast.
If they had, They already released ICS...
Just sayin'
exe127 said:
I think LG has the best&superior programmers which are invincible!
If not, otherwise, how come the root for v20B is not came out yet?
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Nope... it's just a game of cat and mouse, and sometimes the cat wins for a while and sometimes the mouse wins for a while
exe127 said:
crying, because I am using HongKong version, V20B now. No root makes my battery draining very fast.
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so downgrade, root then flash rooted v20n and stop crying
quyTam said:
so downgrade, root then flash rooted v20n and stop crying
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Why downgrade? what about flashing rooted v20n immediately?
because rooted v20N is not in KDZ format but in backup version of CWM or in zip version.
So CWM is mandatory to flash rooted v20N.
And Root is mandatory to install CWM !
quyTam said:
so downgrade, root then flash rooted v20n and stop crying
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But I am living in HK, V20B is custom-made to my region!
exe127 said:
But I am living in HK, V20B is custom-made to my region!
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Or use V20B unrooted or use reddies V20N rooted. Tht's your choice at the moment in terms of GB... there is no other option currently!
exe127 said:
But I am living in HK, V20B is custom-made to my region!
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Why you are insisting to use HK 20b? Do you like the bloatwares?
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lesp4ul said:
Why you are insisting to use HK 20b? Do you like the bloatwares?
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You mean this rooted 20N mentioned in this thread is bloatware free?
BoyBawang2 said:
You mean this rooted 20N mentioned in this thread is bloatware free?
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My package is still having completed LG app, so it still having "bloatware". Or you can use any other repackage based from mine that already removed that things. The reason of V20B still having bloatware, is because it hasn't rooted yet. And to remove any bloatware is mandatory to have it rooted.
CMIIW.
avcosta said:
Or use V20B unrooted or use reddies V20N rooted. Tht's your choice at the moment in terms of GB... there is no other option currently!
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Of course there is... CM7 nightlies.
N00BY0815, redy2006 i do doubt about the originality of your firmware with root access 20n. Nobody can get root ...
mix231 said:
N00BY0815, redy2006 i do doubt about the originality of your firmware with root access 20n. Nobody can get root ...
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hey no expert here but i will have to agree as th only way to root v21b for o3d was to make hybrids of it with v21a and if you consider the fact that we have more devs and more time with the fw in our hands i'd say it is a hybrid of all the gb versions (leaked etc). of course this is not bad as long as you have a working rom with the latest features, but admitting to it won't hurt. you'd still get the thanks meter up...
There is a very simple way to check: get the md5sum of all files from the backup nooby made and compare to the md5sum of the files from V20N. Case closed.
NO~ This thread won't be closed until the root of V20B is rolled out.
exe127 said:
NO~ This thread won't be closed until the root of V20B is rolled out.
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Who said anything about closing the thread? I was talking about all the whining about nooby's backup being fake and all. Please try to read for comprehension next time.
And since you brought up the subject of this thread, how is the title "I think LG has the best&superior programmers which are invincible !" in any way related to the rooting of V20B? Couldn't you have picked a better title?
mix231 said:
N00BY0815, redy2006 i do doubt about the originality of your firmware with root access 20n. Nobody can get root ...
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Well then, it's simple, DON'T USE IT!
You are free to make decision about what you used in your own device...

Rooting and Warranty void?

Hi
i just bought my phone month ago and i really want to root the device and use different roms
i observed that many here did that
does really rooting void the warranty and if is true ? can i do unroot for warranty
also does rooting has a relation to battery life impovement or it is the roms
my battery life is not good
i even bought an extendable 4300 battery from china and still bad it is just "the 4300 one " stood for 23h with light use
thanks in advance
NB : sorry for the bad english
Rooting can void it, but is undetectable if you reinstall the firmware which will remove it. Unlocking the bootloader to install ROM/kernel however cannot be reversed, but is undetectable if you revert to ICS. Rooting itself will do nothing for battery its the changes you make with this access, whether that be a new ROM, kernel, or simpler things like changing clock speeds with tegra overclock or similar
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What does it mean that unlocking bootloader can be undectable after changing ROM to ICS?
Kontal said:
What does it mean that unlocking bootloader can be undectable after changing ROM to ICS?
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Because the ICS ROM was never made for bootloader unlock, so it will be locked in ICS, but if you flash JB again it will already be unlocked
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So, after unlocking bootloader and (in case of some damage) changing ROM to ICS mean I can still use my varranty? Or not?
It depends. LG can still tell if you have unlocked, unless you really think they are that stupid.
SimonTS said:
It depends. LG can still tell if you have unlocked, unless you really think they are that stupid.
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Yep, all they would have to do is update it to JB or even just look in sys/firmware/fuse/odm_reserved for changes. If they care they will find out
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I have yet to find out how it would be possible to damage a device while using custom roms or rooting it. Unless someone is really stupid to do something dumb, there is no risk whatsoever.
Once you root it though, I believe its over with the warranty.
shadowcore said:
I have yet to find out how it would be possible to damage a device while using custom roms or rooting it. Unless someone is really stupid to do something dumb, there is no risk whatsoever.
Once you root it though, I believe its over with the warranty.
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It all depends where you are. The company cannot, certainly under UK consumer law, refuse to fix a hardware fault just because you have rooted your phone or unlocked the bootloader. They can, however, if they can show that you have caused the damage by over-clocking the CPU or playing around with the voltage settings.
About bootloader - there is somewhere the app which can change the fuses and relock it
reas0n said:
About bootloader - there is somewhere the app which can change the fuses and relock it
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They could still see the difference. Fuses are written only once, so if the fuse is not the same as the original code well...
If it looks anything like mine:
0x000000000000000000000000000000000000fdffffffcafffffffdfffefeffed
Then there's no hope
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I think they don't even checking that.. :d
Cmon you would have to be very unlucky to have warranty refused when something breaks and you want to have it repaired just use relock unlock method, seriously doubt they will be checking fuses, and even if they have checked would they refuse repair
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Flash it to latest imei firmware and be nerd infront of them i doubt they will check anything else.
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LG Italy has officially stated that it will repair under warranty LG smartphones rooted and with custom ROM installed, no questions asked.
I'm not able to tell what other LG subsidiaries will do in other, different, countries.
Maybe you should ask.
dataghoul said:
LG Italy has officially stated that it will repair under warranty LG smartphones rooted and with custom ROM installed, no questions asked.
I'm not able to tell what other LG subsidiaries will do in other, different, countries.
Maybe you should ask.
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Can you please provide a link to this official statement?
SimonTS said:
Can you please provide a link to this official statement?
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yes, here it is, from the official LG Italy Facebook page:
https://www.facebook.com/notes/lg-i...-di-root-attivi-in-garanzia/10150205338062585
as you can see, the news was, at the time, a big hit inside the italian blogosphere:
http://android.hdblog.it/2011/05/31...er-device-root-o-con-rom-modificate-per-dual/
http://www.technozone.it/cellulari/...er-dispositivi-con-root-e-con-rom-modificate/
http://www.yourlifeupdated.net/unca...er-dispositivi-con-root-e-con-rom-modificate/
http://www.tuttoandroid.net/lg/lg-i...che-per-i-device-con-root-o-custom-rom-20981/
http://labs.ebuzzing.it/buzz/lg-189444/2011-05-31-lg-italia-stupisce-garanzia-device-dual
http://blog.tecnospazio.org/lg-optimus-dual-garanzia-con-root-e-rom-modificate-5139
dataghoul said:
yes, here it is, from the official LG Italy Facebook page:
https://www.facebook.com/notes/lg-i...-di-root-attivi-in-garanzia/10150205338062585
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Thanks for that. Interesting that it was over two years ago, and they specifically mention "rooting", no reference to unlocking bootloaders. It may be worth you asking the question of them to find out what their stance is now.
SimonTS said:
Thanks for that. Interesting that it was over two years ago, and they specifically mention "rooting", no reference to unlocking bootloaders. It may be worth you asking the question of them to find out what their stance is now.
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rooting and installation of alternate firmware, which you can't get without unlocking bootloader. still, this is old, and i'd really really like to know what their stance is today
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rooting and installation of alternate firmware, which you can't get without unlocking bootloader. still, this is old, and i'd really really like to know what their stance is today
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Untrue. You can install alternate firmware - we had that ability on the 4X without an unlocked bootloader. What you can't do is install a custom kernel.
Unless they specifically state that they will support warranty claims with an unlocked bootloader then this is worthless anyway.

C6902 prototype firmware

If someone could post please the Prototype Firmware
Meni30 said:
If someone could post please the Prototype Firmware
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z1/orig-development there you go, fill your boots
danw_oz said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z1/orig-development there you go, fill your boots
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That is not what he means.
I am unsure where he will download it from.
gregbradley said:
That is not what he means.
I am unsure where he will download it from.
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Yes, isn't that called leaks, I haven't ever seen any from Sony
danw_oz said:
Yes, isn't that called leaks, I haven't ever seen any from Sony
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No,
They are development threads made by xda users and are not based on Sony FW
He is asking for a prototype FW from sony, its an initial release of FW for journalistic and testing purposes. It is never released publicily, but there have been leaks in the past (Notably the first Sony JB release was leaked)
I do believe it only works on what are known as "Brown" Devices. i.e not for public sale
gregbradley said:
No,
They are development threads made by xda users and are not based on Sony FW
He is asking for a prototype FW from sony, its an initial release of FW for journalistic and testing purposes. It is never released publicily, but there have been leaks in the past (Notably the first Sony JB release was leaked)
I do believe it only works on what are known as "Brown" Devices. i.e not for public sale
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Yes but they have signature checks on those firmwares to look for the first few characters of the IEMI for the brown devices
danw_oz said:
Yes but they have signature checks on those firmwares to look for the first few characters of the IEMI for the brown devices
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Still, original android development roms are not protytype firmware
They are not even firmware (FTF files) but flashable, rooted and heavily modified .zips and nothing to do with official/unofficial releases from Sony
Why Sony is so damn restricted..
Every company has FW they don't release
You will find Sony is actually the most dev friendly OEM there is. That is why they have been voted XDA OEM of the year for the past 3 (Or maybe 4) years.
They are the only company that actively works with devs on xda
gregbradley said:
Every company has FW they don't release
You will find Sony is actually the most dev friendly OEM there is. That is why they have been voted XDA OEM of the year for the past 3 (Or maybe 4) years.
They are the only company that actively works with devs on xda
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Very Well, so here still hope.
eclyptos said:
Very Well, so here still hope.
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for what?
gregbradley said:
for what?
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To reach what we looking for with Sony and from Sony. A solution to all our problems.
eclyptos said:
To reach what we looking for with Sony and from Sony. A solution for all our problems.
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what problems?
gregbradley said:
what problems?
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With Z1, for example, Unlocking Bootloader, maybe we get new Firmwares. You said XDA actively works with Sony and Vice-Versa, so we still in a middle of nowhere or what? If this is true what you said a solution should be on the way.
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With Z1, for example, Unlocking Bootloader, maybe we get new Firmwares. You said XDA actively works with Sony and Vice-Versa, so we still in a middle of nowhere or what? If this is true what you said a solution should be on the way.
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True, but that is a user problem, the stock releases have no problem. Its only a problem if you want to "mess" with the phone (Like we all do) then we do so with the caveat that we are messing with a stable system and we may make it unstable in some ways.
That's the fun and the joy in the journey
PS, unlocking the boot does not give you new firmwares. FW are official releases from sony. Custom roms are made by non sony developers and are not official
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True, but that is a user problem, the stock releases have no problem. Its only a problem if you want to "mess" with the phone (Like we all do) then we do so with the caveat that we are messing with a stable system and we may make it unstable in some ways.
That's the fun and the joy in the journey
PS, unlocking the boot does not give you new firmwares. FW are official releases from sony. Custom roms are made by non sony developers and are not official
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I agree 100% but Sony do not own Android, even if it is a part of a stable product we messing around with Android and we testing they product. They should be grateful for that. They also learning from us so why don't give the right support to the customers.
We are not testing their product, they do it themselves, they are aware that there is a lot of android users that choose android in order to have more control but a lot of software on the phone is their intellectual property and they have every right to protect it.
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The only firmware that my phone accepts is the : C6902_14.1.G.1.526_TW.ftf but then i got a problem when phone is charging it works well but when its not charging when i close my phone the phone restarts itself ...and gives me some Crash Errors at the startup screen
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We are not testing their product, they do it themselves,
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I know they do, they have to but we stress this device upgrading, flashing, so in some way we test it also.
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..they are aware that there is a lot of android users that choose android in order to have more control but a lot of software on the phone is their intellectual property and they have every right to protect it.
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Absolutely Right, I forgot about that.
Meni30 said:
The only firmware that my phone accepts is the : C6902_14.1.G.1.526_TW.ftf but then i got a problem when phone is charging it works well but when its not charging when i close my phone the phone restarts itself ...and gives me some Crash Errors at the startup screen
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Try using pccompanion to repair the phone
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Root V8.4 ?

help me
Same question, is it possible?
Foxleone said:
Same question, is it possible?
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no. is not.
Pls how can i root tecno W3
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mrmazak said:
no. is not.
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Hey mrmazak,
Thanks for your development and the support of this community with Dirtycow.
To clarify, are you seeing any exploits that could be leveraged in order to root and it will take more time for development, or is it just out of the question?
Thanks,
kvn101
kvn101 said:
Hey mrmazak,
Thanks for your development and the support of this community with Dirtycow.
To clarify, are you seeing any exploits that could be leveraged in order to root and it will take more time for development, or is it just out of the question?
Thanks,
kvn101
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there is nothing that i know about, but that does not mean that it is impossible,. Just unknown.
mrmazak said:
no. is not.
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hey mrmazak,
pls tell me that is it possible to root amazon blu r1hd (custom build version-BLU_r0010uu_v8.4). ?
via SPFT its showing error 2004..pls help !
i09o9 said:
hey mrmazak,
pls tell me that is it possible to root amazon blu r1hd (custom build version-BLU_r0010uu_v8.4). ?
via SPFT its showing error 2004..pls help !
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Blu has changed preloader since v6.6. no access to preloader from sptf, so no flashing, no root
Thanks mrmazak,
Anytime sooner will there be root ?
No, there will not be root. The security holes have been plugged. The tools used to modify the phones have been blocked.
If you installed a recent over-the-air update, you are out of luck - no recovery, no flashing, no rooting. Period. End of story. Done.
Never accept an over-the-air update for a phone that you want to root or modify.
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No, there will not be root. The security holes have been plugged. The tools used to modify the phones have been blocked.
If you installed a recent over-the-air update, you are out of luck - no recovery, no flashing, no rooting. Period. End of story. Done.
Never accept an over-the-air update for a phone that you want to root or modify.
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Wow **** blu.
Guess I'll just return it, you know, cause **** sales too!
Sorry, I am new to rooting with many of my phones and I am getting very frustrated at how many developers patch the root. I used to think Android was friendlier for root than iOS is for jailbreaking, don't think so anymore.
Is there a root friendly list of phones new you have on this forum up-to-date?
Sort of hard to buy a phone requesting from the seller to have the "right version" on it. Ex.) blu phone prior to v6.6.
Thanks.
ty345 ey5w5 said:
Wow **** blu.
Guess I'll just return it, you know, cause **** sales too!
Sorry, I am new to rooting with many of my phones and I am getting very frustrated at how many developers patch the root. I used to think Android was friendlier for root than iOS is for jailbreaking, don't think so anymore.
Is there a root friendly list of phones new you have on this forum up-to-date?
Sort of hard to buy a phone requesting from the seller to have the "right version" on it. Ex.) blu phone prior to v6.6.
Thanks.
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OnePlus actually encourage rooting in some extend.
Foxleone said:
Same question, is it possible?
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it is possible to root V8.4 if you're already using a custom recovery with dirty cows v11
Trailblaza said:
it is possible to root V8.4 if you're already using a custom recovery with dirty cows v11
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If you have custom recovery , then yes. The dirty cow part is only needed to allow bootloader unlock. So once it's unlocked and you have recovery , should be no problem to root
Trash talk lol, nothing is impossible just that you can't do it simple!.

[NEWS] Update with Widevine L1 support for Oneplus 5 and 5t

Just came to know about this. Updating the phone to support security level L1 requires authentic pc connection so phone has to be sent to service center to be updated.
interesting
Ankit Kabeer said:
Just came to know about this. Updating the phone to support security level L1 requires authentic pc connection so phone has to be sent to service center to be updated.
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Well id love if they cannuse this opportunity to make a vendor partition as well:laugh:
I love in India so I'll send mine for the update next week as they'll be covering courier cost.
I hope there will be some way in near future where it can be implemented in custom roms.
https://www.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5t-netflix-amazon-prime-video-hd/
I'm gonna send my device in a few weeks too - I live in Europe
is it worth? spend 1-2 weeks without phone for an update.
acmerw said:
is it worth? spend 1-2 weeks without phone for an update.
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I won't exchange my unlocked bootloader, twrp and root just for Netflix and other HD content never ever
Can it be ported?
strongst said:
I won't exchange my unlocked bootloader, twrp and root just for Netflix and other HD content never ever
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+1, i have a OnePlus for that, friendly root, Pure Android (OOS or Custom) :highfive:
Netflix is on my computer or tv, not my Smartphone
They should make something that we could access remotely to update this. Like, c'mon, we are in 2018 they don't our phone in their hands to update it.
So is this done on the hardware level so that it sticks for factory resets and custom ROMs? You know, like official LineageOS 15.1 released today? :fingers-crossed:
And I noticed a few others mentioning locked bootloaders... I don't care if I have to wipe and relock it to have it serviced but will I still get L1 if I unlock and TWRP it again?
rAy
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My phone, my rules!
Ankit Kabeer said:
Just came to know about this. Updating the phone to support security level L1 requires authentic pc connection so phone has to be sent to service center to be updated.
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Can you post the thread url? Thx
MChief0815 said:
Can you post the thread url? Thx
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Look here https://forum.xda-developers.com/on...wine-l1-support-oneplus-t3754482/post75682197
This update is needed/convenient for users that are using a not OOS based custom ROM?
bartito said:
This update is needed/convenient for users that are using a not OOS based custom ROM?
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I think it's only with an oos based rom possible cause without locked bootloader it won't be possible in my opinion and regarding the statement of oneplus.
Don't know what to make of this but here it is anyway if someone is interested
Ankit Kabeer said:
Don't know what to make of this but here it is anyway if someone is interested
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Thanks it seems that you dealed with a support worker with little knowledge.
I dont think the "update" would surfive a full wipe as there are no extra partitions/chips to write to that we ourselfs cannot. If i'm wrong please do tell..
Rick0x7 said:
Thanks it seems that you dealed with a support worker with little knowledge.
I dont think the "update" would surfive a full wipe as there are no extra partitions/chips to write to that we ourselfs cannot. If i'm wrong please do tell..
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This update will survive wipes, and can surely be used for OOS based ROMs, OnePlus told me that rooting, unlocking the bootloader will not break the update again and that it is going to stick when on custom ROMs (they haven't guaranteed it tho). The reason why we, users cannot do the update ourselves, is because of Googles requirements - the executing PC must be authenticated to to generate special keys, which are unique to each and every device. It is inconvenient, but it's the only way OP can execute the update.

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