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Tethering how could they say anything for $40.00 bucks a month

I read on here how people are afraid to tether and wonder if you're gonna get in trouble. AT&T harrased the bejesus outta me when they tried to hand over a rediculous $7000.00 phone bill that I hadn't even tethered once. NOT ONCE. What did I do, well nothing. The phone bill was all their fault and they appologized and peaid dearly for it. All is forgiven. But what stands out about the situation is how much they asked me if I was just on my PDA for internet usage. I said, DAMN IT YES. I listen to the internet radio and use orb to access my files from home. The internet radio thing is probably what really did it. So, how can they say anything about usage and what you are doing when you are paying for unlimited access. Screw the machine I'm gonna tether my little heart out.
p.s. these are the speeds i'm getting from Barnes and nobles on USB... bluetooth is just as fast but why use BT when pluggin in your USB charges the phone at the same time... DUH
Oh and one more thing. I am at Barnes & Nobles doing it too. Take that At&T

What plan or the the lack there of were you on wnen you got the 7000 dollar bill and where the hell are you that you get 1.7 mbits I can only get 1.1

How hard is it carriers, you make 1 and only 1 unlimited plan and you stick to it. Screw this Unlimited but can't tether crap.
I just read an article about a candian dude who got a $8000+ bill from Rogers. He talked them down to to like 1700 or something like that and he was just using what he thought he was allowed to do. he thought UNLIMITED meant UNLIMITED.

sprice82 said:
What plan or the the lack there of were you on wnen you got the 7000 dollar bill and where the hell are you that you get 1.7 mbits I can only get 1.1
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Ummm, you see, what had happened was. LOl, no seriously, what happened is I had a business account, that got switched to a national business account so I could have phone numbers for anywhere in the U.S. Didn't know they had seperate business accounts for that but ok. When they switched me over they stripped my entire plan naked. I was thinking I was on my regular unlimited plan and really was on NO plan. All the internet radio streaming was just RACKING up my phone bill.
Ha, one poster said talked them down to 1700.00. I flipped out so bad I swear to you I haven't paid a bill in about a year. The reason was mostly because even when they were supposed to refund everything they kept messing that up too shutting off all my phone lines. They just kept refunding and refunding. They also sent me four new tilts. TALK to managers only the other idiots in customer service know nothing.
I am in florida for the speeds I am getting. I am super happy with this new tether thing.
Cheers.

smittyofdhs said:
How hard is it carriers, you make 1 and only 1 unlimited plan and you stick to it. Screw this Unlimited but can't tether crap.
I just read an article about a candian dude who got a $8000+ bill from Rogers. He talked them down to to like 1700 or something like that and he was just using what he thought he was allowed to do. he thought UNLIMITED meant UNLIMITED.
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wow.
then what does unlimited mean? lol

yea IMO companies are going to far with this crappolla

Hey christian15213, Ive been thru the similar situations with cingular/att about 3 times. To make a long story short. In store reps kept tampering and slamming my account on 3 different occasions. I found out when i recieved a $3500.00 bill due to very large data consumption. Went without paying my bill, and argued with reps and managment for about 6months or more on refunding my account, how the charges got there and, and replacing my gf plan(19.99=unlmtd data, 1500 txt, 150 mms). Well after I finally got them to make my account whole, I made them note onto my account not to make any changes on my account without customer permission! Since then I've been streaming movies and downloading like crazy, and no one has ever harrassed me about it! I monitor my data usage on a monthly basis, and i tell ya, its extremely high, as if i was tethering!

Christian, what browser are you using speedtest.net with? I can't get it to work with IE or Opera.

i am using internet explorer 7. I am tethering via bluetooth or USB... the Speed I got up top was posted via a usb connection while sitting off Glades and 95 in Barnes & Nobles sticking it to Att and the Man. YEA baby.
Yea, I don't know if that site has a way of getting on your mobile device you're gonna have to tether to use it.

Bell User in Canada: Internet Fees?

I hate Bell with a passion. After two short 1 week vacations in the states, I was charged for nearly $200 of money I didn't use, apparently for roamer packet data.
I never want to put myself in any situation where my phone sucks money out of my wallet without me knowing.
After installing Android (Thanks Myn!) on my HTC Touch (From Bell), I've been using it for a day and I wonder whether or not my internet access will cause my extra charges.
I used to have an unlimited data plan on my HTC Touch running WM 6.1, but is that transferred when I use Android? Essentially my phone now thinks its American, yet runs via Bell Mobility.
Should I stop using internet?

I too am on Bell's network with the unlimited mobile browser plan and do not get charged extra fees using any data on Android (while within Canada). This also goes for tethering. Although this is the vogue forum, I want to save confusion and let you know i am on an HTC Touch from Bell (Vogue).

I have the fun 15 bundle with Bell and have never been charged for data. From what I understand, Bell does not consider the Vogue to be a smartphone, and therefore allows you to take the Fun 15 (or other unlimited mobile browser package).
Cheers

shadoslayer said:
I have the fun 15 bundle with Bell and have never been charged for data. From what I understand, Bell does not consider the Vogue to be a smartphone, and therefore allows you to take the Fun 15 (or other unlimited mobile browser package).
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Seriously? I've been paying extra for data... I'm with Bell and have the Touch.

I just need to put this out there. This question has been answered MANY times. If you had searched you would have found the answer

ThomasHW said:
Seriously? I've been paying extra for data... I'm with Bell and have the Touch.
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If you have Unlimited Mobile Browser and the Touch, then you shouldn't be paying any extra for data from Bell.

Liko said:
If you have Unlimited Mobile Browser and the Touch, then you shouldn't be paying any extra for data from Bell.
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I don't have unlimited browser, but I'm assuming a plan with that would be far cheaper than the $65 I'm paying?

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I don't have unlimited browser, but I'm assuming a plan with that would be far cheaper than the $65 I'm paying?
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You can add the Unlimited Browser option for $10 to any current plan. For $15 you can add Fun 15 Bundle which includes the Unlimited Browser, Call Display, Voicemail and 250 text sent.

I have to Touches with Bell both with unlimited, one is a postpaid and the other is prepaid and never get charged extra EXCEPT for one time I was in Niagara Falls right on the border, I ended up getting charged about 20 dollars for one day extra in Data fees they said because I was on the US towers, weird but I never left canada and still got charged.
Bell are horrible in everything except the unlimited data for the vogue lol.

Yep, as everyone stated, there should be no charges with UMB. For some its reason enough to try and get every last drop out of the vogue. I do look at some of the devices out there and wonder though.
I too was charged roaming data rates when in the South part of Vancouver Island (good old Sooke, BC). I guess I was on the US towers and checked my email a few times. I think charges were around $25. Be careful when close to the US!

Yes, I am on the $7 unlimited data plan and also have not paid a cent extra

bobjr said:
Yep, as everyone stated, there should be no charges with UMB. For some its reason enough to try and get every last drop out of the vogue. I do look at some of the devices out there and wonder though.
I too was charged roaming data rates when in the South part of Vancouver Island (good old Sooke, BC). I guess I was on the US towers and checked my email a few times. I think charges were around $25. Be careful when close to the US!
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I have to Touches with Bell both with unlimited, one is a postpaid and the other is prepaid and never get charged extra EXCEPT for one time I was in Niagara Falls right on the border, I ended up getting charged about 20 dollars for one day extra in Data fees they said because I was on the US towers, weird but I never left canada and still got charged.
Bell are horrible in everything except the unlimited data for the vogue lol.
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You can contest those charges. Let them know where you were and they'll remove the fees.

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You can contest those charges. Let them know where you were and they'll remove the fees.
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Trust me I did, no go.
Off topic: I once had added 500 long distance minutes for $30 I think from bell, and towards the end of the month I felt like I was getting close, so I called in to ask if I can add more, and the lady on the phone said since I am a student I can get a plan where I can make/receive unlimited nationwide calls from/to 10 numbers, all I have to do is go into a store and show my id and ask them to add the plan.
Next day I head down to a Bell store, tell them I want the student plan, and to add to my plan 40 long distance minutes for $7 just in case I call or receive any long distance calls outside of these numbers.
Well what the girl did, she added the student plan, and the $7 plan, but she took off the 500min for $30. When I got my phone bill it was close to $400 for that month because they ended up charging me for the 500 minutes of long distance. Lets just say it took about 3-4 months to get them to issue a refund, and with so much time spent on the phone, at the store, with managers.
basically screw Bell, if they didn't have this unlimited browser for the Vogue, I wouldn't even touch them.
rant over

I feel your pain. Any time they screw up, it's a guarantee you'll be spending time measured in days for them to correct it. I love it when you call back and find out that the previous person on the phone didn't keep any notes in their system and you have to start from scratch.
Unfortunately I think every other provider is equally crappy.

pretty much every time I call bell for anything I immediatly tell them I want to talk to 'retentions'. When the rep asks why I say cause I'm going to cancel my plan, pay it out a switch carriers.. They transfer me to retentions who is much more organized to deal with.
lol

Well.. I phoned Bell and asked why they were charging me for data when my phone wasn't considered a "smart phone" and why they didn't tell me this when I switched phones (I called in to switch). They gave me some garbage, and I said "yes... but I could have been paying $15 less a month and would of had the same service." He went and talked to his manager and they're reimbursing me for a few months and are switching my plan.

don't use data in the States
NEVER use your Touch in the States.
I was in Vegas for a week and a few checks of my email and a few Twitter updates (everything that automatically used data- push mail, MyPhone backup, weather- was disabled) and I've used 67 meg of data.
And $2000 tab from Bell Canada....
For the entire year of 2009 Bell reported to me that I used 120 meg, they falsely report your unlimited mobile browser usage to you by capping each mobile packet data session (check your bell bill, each session has the same total).. But when you go to the states (or another country that supports Bell CDMA) the provider that you are piggy-backing service from is reporting back to Bell what what your actual data usage is (like you were using any data device -blackberry, iphone etc.)..
it gets better..
Bell bills this, out of plan, mobile browser foreign usage at $30 per megabyte - it bills actual data phone foreign usage at $6 per megabyte.
I had naively bought the 2meg $20 US mobile browser thinking this should cover my usage while in the states..oops
I've talked to a dozen different people at Bell from CSR's, supervisors, managers to different people in the executive office; they all say after consulting with their "data expert" that there was nothing wrong or abnormal about my usage in the states. 100% true I used my phone data normally, they are looking for a one time large or abnormal usage.
But as we're not getting billed normally, we are not able to make informed decisions about a) pre-buying a US mobile browser package or b) monitoring mobile browser usage in the US. And getting forced to pay 5X what other data phone users are paying for their data usage in the US.
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I hate Bell with a passion. After two short 1 week vacations in the states, I was charged for nearly $200 of money I didn't use, apparently for roamer packet data.
I never want to put myself in any situation where my phone sucks money out of my wallet without me knowing.
After installing Android (Thanks Myn!) on my HTC Touch (From Bell), I've been using it for a day and I wonder whether or not my internet access will cause my extra charges.
I used to have an unlimited data plan on my HTC Touch running WM 6.1, but is that transferred when I use Android? Essentially my phone now thinks its American, yet runs via Bell Mobility.
Should I stop using internet?
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ahh there is a god..
I finally got resolution to my $2000 bill from bell for US mobile browser usage.. they had offered a 50% reduction..
I finally got a sane person at the Executive Office who charged me $45 for the new US 1GB package and has wiped out the outstanding US browser charges. The 'data-expert' that was to return my call is no longer with Bell... and NO body at Bell understands the difference between mobile browser usage (capped) and Data usage (uncapped).. even better when you bill says "roamer data usage"
... good timing too as the accounts receivable bastards had disabled both my phones with Bell Mobility and I had borrowed $1500 to reactive them.
Be polite, but persistent..
Now on my next trip to the US should I try and pre-purchase the 1GB US data package for $45.. LOL

wow. that is a horror story if i've ever heard one. i have seen how the UMB shows capped packet data but never understood why they would do that. It doesn't make sense. Are they not recording the correct data internally or just not reporting it correctly?

10$ for it? damn... i'm glad I got in before the price hikes... it might only be a couple dollars but it adds up. When I signed up, it was 5$, and I was enrolled for some promo that knocked it down to 3$ a month. About a year ago I got a letter saying it was going up to 7$, but the promo's still on my account knocking off 2$ every month so I only pay 5 for it... Kinda wondering what to do when my contract finally expires in 6 months, since I'm quite enjoying the vogue with android for 40$ a month after taxes... (200 minutes, 500 texts, unlimited data etc etc) and I know they won't renew my contract at that rate :/

[Q] Is Wifi Tether illegal without a plan?

What I mean Is., I use a Tether app often on my capty.
I still have the old unlimited data plan. but no tether plan....do you think they will catch on if say i were to use my 3g wifi to download movies or whatnot...?

You're definitely not supposed to be doing it, but Ive been doing it for over 3 years now and have seen 100+GB in a month with no problems what so ever. Just don't give up that unlimited plan!

yes the unlimited plan is a must have.!!!! i have had it for 5 years now

This is an interesting question... I wonder if the recent update to the DMCA that allows for jailbreaking would have any affect on whether or not you'd be allowed to tether with out a tether plan.

I think they get away with a lot more "illegal" pratices than you doing tether so to me, you are just fine.

"illegal"
NO
"Outside of your contract terms"
YES
Which means they can drop you at their discretion. I have heard of excessive users getting notices. I see someone claims 100gb a month. That sounds like flags to me, but if you can make it work, then more power to you.

yeah just imagine if they dumbed your unlimited data plan and left you with the option to get the 250 MB plan only.
that would suck.

AT&T's "Unlimited" Plan has what they call a 5GB "Soft Cap". If you use over 5GB in any given month, AT&T flags your account for review. If this happens many times over, your account will be flagged for no further upgrade eligibility. At that point and time, they have the option to drop you completely. They also reserve the right to drop you to a limited plan and charge you overages (currently $10-$15 per GB). Tread lightly. 100+GB will possibly come back to bite you. 5-10GB will probably not cause much of a problem...they are looking for people that use their bandwidth to serve their entire house, not occasional "tetherers".

Apparently unlimited has a different definition in their dictionary....

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Apparently unlimited has a different definition in their dictionary....
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Sure does!!!

Definitely be careful with that unlimited plan. Twice now at&t has removed my unlimited data plan without giving me any notice what so ever. When i called them they always gave me the excuse that it was changed many months ago and i had to wait 2 weeks for my case to go through.

I got bumped to the 2gb data plan? what to do

i got the text yesterday and got the same old thing from the CSR. smartphone blah blah.
I was on the 30$ everything plan and now its 25$ for 2gb and $20 for unlimited texts.
Is there anything I can say to the rep tomorrow when I call back? I was on that previous plan ($30) for a long time, couple years I think.
Been at att for 13 years.
I have a tmo N1 also, I could switch but I don't know about their coverage down here.
I don't I'm beating a dead horse, I'm sorry. I did do some searching before hand.
any advice?

I can't help you but to say that I received the exact same awful news this week. I can't understand how they feel justified in doing this since I am not under contract and my plan was grandfathered in. I am going to call them tomorrow and let them know how I feel but I doubt it helps. I guess I'll just have to take my four phones elsewhere.

I literally had nothing to say to the guy after he came back from having me on hold. 30$ was the smart plan back two years ago wasn't it? So now it's not and we need $15 more dollars from you?
I'd rather pay google for good VOIP.
I can't find prices for tmo even more plus plans online anymore, I know they use to be there?

Legally, because they changed your plan, you can back out of their service without an early termination fee. That's probably the best thing you can do.

They do periodic scans... Once it happens automatically there's nothing you can do to get the cheap unlimited plan back. If you ask nicely you CAN get the unlimited data plan, but of course you'll pay $30 for it.
What can you do to mitigate it? I suppose you could use Wifi more, if you listen to streaming music a lot perhaps instead buy a bigger SD card and listen to music from there? Don't stream videos to it?
Personally I have only gone a hair over 1G since I've had my Nexus One, but I stream music only a few hours a month and otherwise it's market updates, email, data syncing etc.
I got switched back a few weeks ago myself too, but this time instead of exploding I figured there's nothing you can do about it, at least in the long term, except for talking from your wallet. When you contract is up, move somewhere else and tell AT&T why.
They keep giving us broader access to fast cellular data, keep making it faster, but continue to reduce what we can use of it. Same with home broadband, friend has 20mbit cable broadband at his house but it drops to like 1mbit/sec if he uses more than 5G/month.

I don't have a contract. I'm going to check a tmo sim in my house and see how the coverage is. Maybe switch after a final call to att. I have atmo n1 also.
silly thing is I've never went over 250mb a month. BUT what's the point of watching or keeping track of how much data you've used when you pay these Fu**s 1200 a year?

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I don't have a contract. I'm going to check a tmo sim in my house and see how the coverage is. Maybe switch after a final call to att. I have atmo n1 also.
silly thing is I've never went over 250mb a month. BUT what's the point of watching or keeping track of how much data you've used when you pay these Fu**s 1200 a year?
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exactly ! and, when the advertisement says UNLIMITED, by god that's what I'm paying for. if/when a telco throttles my account for using "too much" i'm suing.
so far this month, 4Gb. i'm on tmo, and while the out-of-town coverage isn't great, i'm never too far off the interstate for it to matter.
vote with your money. not like they care, with 20 million iphone users coughing up whatever amount they are told to. ;-)

well, there ain't jack the retention people can do. Been at att for 12 years now.
It's impossible to go back I guess. Also you can't just have voice voice or data alone. Thought about having two sims active at the same time, one from tmo and one from att.
According to him there is only 200mb or 2gb plans no matter what you had before they auto switch you.
What he did do was switch me to a 29.99 voice with rollover instead of the lowest advertised 39.99 450 rollover plan.
Drop to 1500 texts a month for $15 instead of unlimited for $20. (which I'm slowly swapping people over to my GV number)
and 2gb data for whatever that price is, I don't remember. But at least my bill is within $5 of what it was the other day.
Att just doesn't really care to much about what they're doing to customers.
I'm still going to go check out tmo and coverage at my house when I have time.
retention guy was cool. I recommend not hanging up or cussing these people.
Att is the devil.

wow, glad i'm on T-mobile i'm using a grandfathered G1 unlimited data/400 texts plan, but if i ever needed unlimited texts i could just upgrade to the even more plan and i would end up with 200 more anytime minutes and unlimited texts along with unlimited data, i currently pay 55 dollars a month total and the current even more plan (no contract plan) is 60 dollars a month.

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I literally had nothing to say to the guy after he came back from having me on hold. 30$ was the smart plan back two years ago wasn't it? So now it's not and we need $15 more dollars from you?
I'd rather pay google for good VOIP.
I can't find prices for tmo even more plus plans online anymore, I know they use to be there?
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The EM+ plans are still available, but you have to go to a store or call T-mo to sign up for that plan.

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exactly ! and, when the advertisement says UNLIMITED, by god that's what I'm paying for. if/when a telco throttles my account for using "too much" i'm suing.
so far this month, 4Gb. i'm on tmo, and while the out-of-town coverage isn't great, i'm never too far off the interstate for it to matter.
vote with your money. not like they care, with 20 million iphone users coughing up whatever amount they are told to. ;-)
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You realize the irony here is that the users who use hoards of data are part of the reason why they keep clamping down? How can you possibly use 4G of data doing semi-normal things? Must be tethering or doing nonsense (like one poster in the past; he was doing daily ROM downloads of multiple ROMs and associated packages...)

how big of a data plan and how much data do you use?

so i lost my udp, but now have 12g of data. im curious what size data plans everyone has and what you actually use. having never had a tiered data plan before now im paranoid im gonna go over. with the udp i tethered my phone instead of getting home internet, during my last move i broke down and set up roadrunner.

I have an All-you-can-eat tariff average usage is about 15-20GB per month. But looking at the way you've worded your post I'm going to assume you're in the States? Not sure you guys have tariffs that generous over there.

yea, im in the us. i used to have unlimited data, but my note 2 is almost dead and with 3 kids and having moved a few weeks ago funds to flat buy outright just isnt there. i used to download torrents,tether, run netflix, ect daily. i would average 40-50 gigs a month, but that was with no home internet though.

I'm on a grandfathered AT&T "unlimited" data plan with my Note 2. I use just short of 5 GB per month on average. I get AT&T's throttle warning on the last day of the month many times.
I'm on wifi at work and at home, so data is really only used in the car.

I'm on ATT grandfather plan. I used about on avg 18-20gb a month, throttled after 5gb.
If I wasn't throttled I'd probably use double or so.
Probably the main reason I'm thinking of switching to Tmobile since they don't throttle on their highest plan. But I'm getting pos/neg responses about their services.
Anyone have it in Orange, CA area with advice?

I avg about 16gb on Tmobile unlimited. I have good coverage at home and at work. I live in GA.

Verizon unlimited, I use anywhere from 4-8 GB a month.

Sprint unlimited, between me and my wife.....around 15 - 17 a month. I have a friend though that has T - Mobile and uses somewhere between 30 - 60 GB a month. He also once cause they said there wasn't a limit used 3500 GB.

T-Mobile unlimited and use about 20 a month, also about another 3 of tethering. I had Sprint and could only use about 5-6 because the network was so slow on the Note 3.
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Verizon unlimited here about 12-15 gb average

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I have an All-you-can-eat tariff average usage is about 15-20GB per month. But looking at the way you've worded your post I'm going to assume you're in the States? Not sure you guys have tariffs that generous over there.
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Did you just take a shot at the good ol' U.S. of A?

Straight Talk 2.5gb and I don't think I've ever gone over. What are you guys doing with your phones that you need 10-20 gb of data a month?

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Did you just take a shot at the good ol' U.S. of A?
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Lmao, not in a derogatory manner I assure you lol.

T-Mobile Unlimited. Normally under 20GB a month. No house usage though as I have 50mb/20mb business connection at the house.

I am grandfathered into the ATT Unlimited. I grow angry every time I hit 5gb....the throttling is horrible. I use my phone for the GPS daily and I hit some high data marks. Its frustrating. I actually call and ***** about the throttling everytime I hit it. It makes me that mad. Unlimited, yes, but I need full speed for all data I use. Still happy with ATT, but that one think may make or break it after 10 yrs.

Verizon unlimited. I'm anywhere from 30 to 80 GB a month depending on how many ROMs I download. ☺

I have the sprint $60.00 unlimited everything, most I have used is 50GB. This month I have used 20GB.
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Those of you with double digit data use what do you use it for? I avg maybe 3-5gb a month and can't fathom how to use more. Just curious.
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I average about 200 GB per month. Mostly with Netflix and uploading to YouTube. Sprints coverage is one of the worst but I cant go without the unlimited data.

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I average about 200 GB per month. Mostly with Netflix and uploading to YouTube. Sprints coverage is one of the worst but I cant go without the unlimited data.
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You don't get throttled?
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