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Oh... will the bullet actually pass though your body and hit the person you are protecting? I mean if its a typical 9mm and shoot at the chest from a minimum distance of 2m.
I am worried that my response will lead to seeing you on the darwin awards, but..
Almost certainly no, assuming center mass. But there are variables, the most important of which is the type of round; full metal jacket, hollow point variants, etc.
Try not to get dead.
do i dare suggest conducting practical experiments to verify this...preferably not on me...i could suggest a few names for our test subjects though...
i could suggest a few names for our test subjects though...
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may i suggest Steve jobs?
I know two people who shot themselves, one personally, one via t'interweb.
The first one lives in Israel and was at a shooting range with her partner, with no barriers between them.
He fired and an empty hot case went down her neck, causing her to flinch and pull her own trigger, sending the bullet across her forehead slicing it open just under the hair line.
The second wondered when he was a teenager, if a thick book could protect him from a point blank pistol shot.
Rather than shooting the book away from himself, he held it infront of his chest.
Many hours of heart surgery later he lived to tell the tale.
9mm are prefered by the police because they don't tend to pass through their targets, especially if they're using hollow points (unavailable to legitimate armies due to the Geneva convention) as these are designed to mushroom on impact.
Out of my Ruger SR9 (4.5 inch barrel) a 9mm fmj will go through 2 Colorado Springs phone books (1000+ pages) and a high performance hollow point (love Gold Dots or Hydrashocks) go through 1 1/2 phone books at around 30 feet.
So here's the cookie. Got an essay to do . 3 pages to analyse the 9 screenshot. I'm aiming to get at least an A and with font size 9 a page is not enough. Just tell me anything you can think of that you see and think of the picture.
http://img717.imageshack.us/i/psychothriller.png/
What I've got so far- the font used for the titles, shot angles, resons for different shots used, a 'determined look' in picture 5, happy with the new look so he doesn't get caught in picture 9, how determined he is not to get caughed in picture 8(how far he would go to make sure everythings perfect).
But thats not even a page, so anything you can think of, please tell me. Will do the thanks button. By the way, the film is called The Stepfather from 1987.
Thank you for Your time.
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So here's the cookie. Got an essay to do . 3 pages to analyse the 9 screenshot. I'm aiming to get at least an A and with font size 9 a page is not enough. Just tell me anything you can think of that you see and think of the picture.
http://img717.imageshack.us/i/psychothriller.png/
What I've got so far- the font used for the titles, shot angles, resons for different shots used, a 'determined look' in picture 5, happy with the new look so he doesn't get caught in picture 9, how determined he is not to get caughed in picture 8(how far he would go to make sure everythings perfect).
But thats not even a page, so anything you can think of, please tell me. Will do the thanks button. By the way, the film is called The Stepfather from 1987.
Thank you for Your time.
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The innocence of the first two frames. The realization for change in 6. Is that what you're looking for?
I saw more of a transformation from psychopath to someone who appears to be "normal" hiding behind the mask.
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The innocence of the first two frames. The realization for change in 6. Is that what you're looking for?
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Yes thank you both.. will thanks button you later! I'm currently doing my biology so will finish this later. Thank you.
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I just think of death but then again sad things has happened today and the TV shows seems to be more sad today too Or maybe it's because I have school the 3rd :'( Totally ruins my mood because we have two exams the very first day (small exams. ~3 hours total) in the very first class and then from Wednesday till Friday we have 3 exams. One for each day and they are all going on for one school day each... I hate the people who run my school... Seriously the first week after the Christmas holiday... They are evil...
have you watched the film?
du know what the film is?
I havnt watchd the film, but wiki is pretty useful- "The film opens in a Seattle Bellevue neighborhood with Henry Morrison, a psychotic serial killer and master of disguise, washing blood off himself in a bathroom before shaving his beard, replacing his glasses with contact lens and putting a few of his belongings into a suitcase. After packing his things, Henry leaves through the front door of his house, nonchalantly passing the butchered remains of his family, Vicki, Jill and a grown male relative along with a grown female relative, whom he had earlier murdered. Boarding a ferry, Henry disposes of the suitcase containing the objects from his former life by throwing it into the ocean.
One year later, Henry (operating under the identity of a mild-mannered real estate agent named Jerry Blake) has married the widow Susan Maine. Jerry's relationship with Susan's teenage daughter Stephanie is strained, as Stephanie is highly suspicious of Jerry, despite his acts of kindness, such as giving her a puppy as a gift. After a session with her psychiatrist Doctor Bondurant, who advises her to give Jerry a chance, Stephanie is driven home by Jerry, who suggests they work together to build a better relationship, also stating that he and Susan hope she will try to be a better student at school, where Stephanie is having trouble.
In Seattle, vigilante drifter, former adventurer and amateur detective James "Jim" Ogilvie, the brother of Jerry's latest victim Vicki and Jill's young uncle, convinces a reporter to run an article about his sister's slayer in the newspaper. While hosting a neighborhood barbecue, Jerry discovers the article and is clearly disturbed by it. Excusing himself from the festivities, Jerry goes into the basement of the house and begins maniacally rambling to himself (possibly recalling memories of his unhappy childhood), unaware that Stephanie is in the basement as well. Discovering his stepdaughter's presence, Jerry brushes off his outbursts by saying he was simply letting off some accumulated stress. Leaving the basement, Stephanie finds the newspaper mentioning Jerry's earlier killings and comes to believe her stepfather is the murderer Henry Morrison mentioned in the article.
Stephanie writes a letter to the newspaper requesting a photo of Henry Morrison; but Jerry finds the photo in the mail and hides it from Stephanie while she is with Dr. Bondurant. After hiding the photo, Jerry thrashes about in the basement and contemplates killing Susan and Stephanie, but is brought to his senses when Susan yells to him, saying that Dr. Bondurant is calling asking to speak to him. Jerry refuses to answer the phone, having Susan tell the doctor that he is out. Curious as to why Jerry is avoiding him, Doctor Bondurant pretends to be a man named Ray Martin and calls Jerry at the real estate agency under the pretense of wanting to buy a house. As Jerry schedules a meeting with Bondurant, Stephanie opens an envelope addressed to her in the mail and finds a fake photo of Henry Morrison that Jerry had planted to protect his identity. Stephanie is tricked into believing her suspicions of Jerry are false.
During his meeting with Bondurant, Jerry becomes increasingly suspicious of the man, who continually questions him about his home life. Realizing Bondurant is not who he says he is, Jerry beats him to death with a wooden board. After discovering Bondurant's identity as his stepdaughter's psychiatrist, Jerry makes Bondurant's death look like an accident, blowing up the doctor's car with his body inside it. The next day, Jerry informs Stephanie of Bondurant's death in an apparent car accident and succeeds in bonding with the mournful Stephanie. Jerry's newfound relationship with his stepdaughter is quickly cut short when he catches Stephanie kissing her boyfriend named Paul Baker, who is also the family friend of the Maines before Jerry came. Jerry's wild accusations of Paul attempting to rape Stephanie result in him getting into an argument with Stephanie and Susan, which results in the former running off. Realizing all hope of having a happy life with Susan and Stephanie has been ruined, Jerry quits his job and creates a new identity for himself as Bill Hoskins, applying for a job as an insurance agent in another town, where he begins to court another widow while planning to get rid of Susan and Stephanie.
Having discovered where Jerry is now living, Jim Ogilvie begins going door to door through town in search of his former brother in-law. After Jim stops by, Susan phones the real estate agency to tell Jerry that someone was looking for him, only to be informed that Jerry had quit several days ago. Confronting Jerry when he returns home, Susan is told by Jerry that there must have been a mix-up. While explaining himself to Susan, Jerry confuses his Jerry Blake identity with the new Bill Hoskins one he had crafted and bashes Susan with the phone before knocking her down the basement stairs after she realizes Stephanie was right about Jerry. Content that Susan is dead, Jerry then sets to kill the family puppy, however, he instead prepares to kill Stephanie when she returns home and begins showering when Jim knocks on the door, having concluded that Jerry is Henry Morrison.
Ambushing Jim when he enters the house after recognizing him, Jerry kills him by stabbing him in the stomach with a knife as Jim pulls out a Smith & Wesson Bodyguard .38 Special snubnosed revolver before attacking Stephanie. Sustaining a wound to the arm when Stephanie stabs him with a piece of glass, Jerry follows his stepdaughter into the attic, where he corners her. Before he can kill Stephanie, Jerry falls through the weak floor of the attic, but recovers from the fall quickly and renews his attack on Stephanie when she tries to escape. Before he can harm Stephanie, Jerry is shot twice by a still living Susan, who had regained consciousness and retrieved Jim's gun. Feebly trying to reclaim his knife after being shot, Jerry is stabbed in the chest by Stephanie, who grabs the knife before he can. Uttering a weak "I love you" to Stephanie, Jerry falls down the stairs, seemingly dead. The film ends with Stephanie cutting down the birdhouse she and Jerry had put up during the brief time they had bonded with one another."
I've had my Nexus 7 for a couple of weeks now. I absolutely love it, but the omissions made to keep the cost down are significant.
Find out what I thought here at
http://brobuffet.com/2012/09/19/review-google-nexus-7-2/
Short and Sweet, well covered :good:
Good short review . I enjoyed reading it.
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Very well written. However there are some "factual" errors.
The screen is protected by Corning Gorilla Glass, meaning this panel is scratch resistant, but not finger print resistant unfortunately.
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Actually this can be somewhat confusing, as it certainly is not the older "soda lime" glass technologies of yore. It is Corning FIT Glass, which is a newer trade marked glass and method of constructing displays (this is the new Corning "one glass solution" )
Here's a great PDF document link that explains the new FIT pretty well http://www.globalcommhost.com/corning/CDTContent/assets/2011FINETECH_Tompkins.pdf
To quote the document,
Pros: Lightest & thinnest, simple supply chain, Optical performance
Cons: Weaker edge-strength (why the screen lift could make this a fragile Nexus 7 display, granted this is greatly reduced now as you said in your review), Cutting & machining difficulty, Limited know-how
You'll find that FIT is based on their IOX-FS glass and when you compare to the Scratch load and surface failure graph, it's very close to Gorilla Glass. It also looks like while it has less of a scratch load resistance (250g versus 300g) it has better surface stress resistance at 600MPa versus 500MPa of Gorilla.
So perhaps it's only a quibble as it's the nearest thing to Gorilla Glass without sacrificing the benefit of having the display technology much thinner for a much better viewing result.
I'm very surprised Google isn't crowing about this technology, as it's superior to the Gorilla Glass tech the Amazon Kindle Fire HD for the ability to provide a better purity of display. I suspect two factors. One, the display technologies superiority is hampered by the "lousy" display calibration (don't get me wrong, it's beautiful, but it could be stellar without any hardware replacement if Google fixed the calibration). The second is mastering the QA of the edge of the display and the surrounding bezel.
You'll note in the document that Corning states that the need for a very durable display in tablets and handhelds (phones) requires that a bezel or other protective edge technology be used.
You get a great example of this with the Nexus 7 torture test on YouTube. You see it dropped on purpose once and while it's back pops off, it continues to run and the display looks just fine. The second drop and the display breaks.
I suspect the test unit may have been one with the screen lift problem (lower left corner edge) and the second drop hit that causing the screen failure. It would be interesting to have the torture test performed with a newer batch of C90's or later to see the results. I'm not volunteering though
I really had a great time this week. I'm close the the Seattle Amazon head quarters, so when I'm taking public transportation and checking my Google Maps while not having Wi-Fi connectivity. They are amazed that the ability to have maps "offline" and the GPS/Compass working so stellar. It's also really funny when I show my iPhone 4s and how the turn-by-turn navigation with my Nexus 7 "offline" is greater than the Apple Maps from iOS 6 (really regretting the OS upgrade at the moment).
In summary, great review, you did a good job and it's easy to understand the confusion over it being Gorilla Glass or not.
Nice review. I have to agree, the N7 does not feel cheap in the hand at all.
While the diagonal of the display is "more", what concerns me is that the usability of the area is much less.
Consider the real strength of the Note line is the use of the S-Pen. Taking notes and drawing or writing we have LESS real space unless in horizontal mode - this is not my preferred orientation.
If you align the FLAT (non infinity) area - comparison from NOTE-4 to rumored NOTE-8 yes it's taller, but the writable area in width is compromised. Take a look at the attachment. the lower left display area is aligned discounting the "curved" portion of the NOTE-8 - you can't write on curved surface without difficulty... The width is 6.5mm narrower - that's ALOT!
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I don't write TO-DO lists that are 25 items long! I write in sentences and paragraphs for inclusion in reports and analysis - and the NOTE-4 (my current device) is better at that.
I want a NOTE-8, but I'm somewhat concerned. How about you all? Do you like the direction that the Note line is headed with aspect ratios?
It's narrower PLUS the infinity display narrows the width even more -
Deetz
I don't think the note series is following the right path - ie S8+ with a pen is not what I want. The screen is narrowing for the worse.
I currently have the V20 and I am getting the Note8 because of the water resistance, better screen and much better camera. I have both Note 7's and had the Note 4 prior to that so I need the Note back in my life!
I have a Note 5 & wish they had stayed with that screen ratio rather than the narrow one of the S8, it just looks a bit odd on a Note.
The reason they are narrowing and lengthening the phones is to accommodate people with smaller hands mostly IMO. I also prefer a slightly shorter and wider display. 16:9 with basically no bezels would be ideal. But everyone is going to 18:9 for most of the newer phones. Samsung is going 18.5:9 which is even taller and more narrow. For now, this is the ratio that most phones are adopting - taller and narrow. Maybe in a few years that will have proven to be not as popular and phones will gravitate back to a bit shorter an a bit wider. Who knows.
Also prefer the shorter wider display...
My point is not only that it is narrow, but with the curvy edges of the "infinity display" it limits the usable area even more.
It's FAKE NEWS - reporting a screen size for the sake of numbers - you can't use the edges - nice for photos and videos, but not much else. Have you plugged in your 4TB hard drive only to discover you've got 3.6 of usable space after formatting? Same thing.
The display is not bigger - just squished around to fit narrow Asian girl hands - does not help me with the functionality or "productivity" that Samsung espouses. It
the flat is 6.53 on both sides for the reduction of flat width.
It's obvious,
those giants makers including Samsung and HTC are pushing toward narrower screens because it saves on screen material cost during manufacturing. Note that 6.2in dia screen with 16:9 proportions has larger surface area by almost 9% vs. same diagonal screen but with 18.5:9 ratio This means with the last one more screens cut from single AMOLED wafer, means lower cost. But same diagonal spec. for marketing purposes. I won't be surprised if in 2-3 yrs some will start to push even further toward 2.35:1 (21:9) ratio marketing skinny phones as providing unique "cinematography experience". Same crap happened over a decade ago with laptops when all makers shifted from 4:3 screens to 16:9.
I had a chance to use S8 for couple weeks and experience was dreadful. Note 5 which I use now is probably last Samsung phone I owe.
I understand -
Plus:
Asians and women with narrower hands
Less scrolling, able to see more per page
Better spec's
VR may be better field of view
Con:
S-Pen has less writable area, you write on the "flat"
More scrolling, doc's that "word wrap" end up being longer, so more scrolling.
All that said, the writing and drawing is what the Note series is differentiated about.
It would make more sense to have more flat area.
Deetz.
I see people refer this design as been catered to please mainly Asian people. In China now, most people I meet small or big have large display phones, iPhone + range size is almost baseline for most of phones, It seems no one cares that you need two hands to use phone.
The Note 8 design I believe is more for western people as massive phones are still turn off for majority.
Comming from note 3 I am not finding issues with the width, I use s note! I find that curved edges are better for writing when phone is flat on table as it's curved and writing hand can rest on display easier as oppose to having flat edges which is less comfortable.
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It's FAKE NEWS
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Please STOP with this STUPID "Trump" phrases!
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It's FAKE NEWS
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Oh, man. Tell me this bit here is just some sarcastic satire and not being serious. Hope you're not one of those folks. LOL!
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It's obvious,
those giants makers including Samsung and HTC are pushing toward narrower screens because it saves on screen material cost during manufacturing. Note that 6.2in dia screen with 16:9 proportions has larger surface area by almost 9% vs. same diagonal screen but with 18.5:9 ratio This means with the last one more screens cut from single AMOLED wafer, means lower cost. But same diagonal spec. for marketing purposes. I won't be surprised if in 2-3 yrs some will start to push even further toward 2.35:1 (21:9) ratio marketing skinny phones as providing unique "cinematography experience". Same crap happened over a decade ago with laptops when all makers shifted from 4:3 screens to 16:9.
I had a chance to use S8 for couple weeks and experience was dreadful. Note 5 which I use now is probably last Samsung phone I owe.
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I agree. It's all about the costs. I prefer 16:9 ratio.
And to add insult to injury they made the Note 8 narrower screen curved!
Not really Note anymore is it ?
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It isn't about costs, the screens are actually more costly to produce, not less. It's about differentiation, style, and profit. Phones are getting good enough that the hardware is in many respects becoming a non factor. The phone industry is getting ready to enter the "appliance" stage. You don't really check the compressor on your new fridge, compare BTUs per square inch of burner, on stoves, etc. You look at the gross size, styling, durability/perceived reliability. The hardware under the hood is for most people generic, doesn't matter. Most of you should be old enough to recall this happening with laptops. Not to long ago laptops sold for much greater margins but as they got better for most people they became good enough, it became a value question, a styling question, rather than a hardware question. In the laptop industry however there was really only one operating system that mattered, windows. This made differentiation difficult when pricing was crucial and the result was the proverbial race to the bottom. Outside of the boutique systems for gamers most laptops move for a very low margin and it's a difficult business to compete in. They have become appliances.
Those happy people that make phones don't want this to happen to them so they are trying to create value and increase profits with style and differentiation before the performance factor becomes totally meaningless. They are also trying to wall you into their garden and for phones these things are related. When you know the clock is ticking and the hardware will soon become a non factor style and brand can still sell and is a way to avoid the low profits after the race to the bottom is complete. By locking you into their orbit they also act to make it so their value to you becomes higher because a move means hassle. Then they have the value add of harvesting your information and selling it. Remember Apple made 4 billion dollars last year serving google ads. Thats whats called free money and everyone likes free money.
So thats why, it's not really about right or wrong for the user, it's about holding profits up for the OEMs. If they make a same old same old boring slate they cant add value for style, they cant win brand recognition, they cant get the profit that those things bring. It's always about the money.
I find the narrower phone much more comfortable/"natural" to hold in my hand & overall less fatiguing to work with - so while I completely agree that narrower display contradicts most of what the Note series should stand for, by compromising effectiveness of the stylus from a professional writing/note-taking standpoint, I have to say that I still welcome this change, all things considered. Obviously this is something Samsung takes very seriously and would not have have overlooked. Yeah the cost-factor is a major consideration, but I'm sure there were many other practical factors which weighed in favour of the new design.
I also don't want to come across as naive in saying this, but given how expensive the Note 8 actually retails for, does the "cost savings" argument really even hold much water, any more than it being a convenient excuse? The fact is, Samsung could have put nearly any price tag on this unit and it clearly wouldn't have made much difference to their sales at the end of the day. People are prepared to pay a fortune for this device, just because it's "the new Samsung Galaxy Note" -- so there urgency for Samsung to take cost-cutting shortcuts couldn't have been all that great. Then again, I suppose when we consider how much the Note 7 disaster must have cost them, I suppose anything is possible after all
Granted, we all have our preferences though, and I can totally understand why some prefer 16:9 form factor and might even be disappointed/angered by this trend. You could certainly argue that anyone looking for long/narrow flagship offering could just buy the S8+ such that Samsung should have left the Note 8 form factor untouched, leaving customers with more variety in this regard instead of conforming everything to this new fashion trend... but it is what it is, and the overall sales figures will speak the loudest in the end. Can't wait to see what the future of this space holds though
I use a Note5 for work, and Note8 for personal. I prefer the screen of the 8 much better.
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My point is not only that it is narrow, but with the curvy edges of the "infinity display" it limits the usable area even more.
It's FAKE NEWS - reporting a screen size for the sake of numbers - you can't use the edges - nice for photos and videos, but not much else. Have you plugged in your 4TB hard drive only to discover you've got 3.6 of usable space after formatting? Same thing.
The display is not bigger - just squished around to fit narrow Asian girl hands - does not help me with the functionality or "productivity" that Samsung espouses. It
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This is way off topic, but me thinks you need to do some reading on how HD capacity is figured, calculated, and reported. Its not the same thing. At all.
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I find the narrower phone much more comfortable/"natural" to hold in my hand & overall less fatiguing to work with - so while I completely agree that narrower display contradicts most of what the Note series should stand for, by compromising effectiveness of the stylus from a professional writing/note-taking standpoint, I have to say that I still welcome this change, all things considered. Obviously this is something Samsung takes very seriously and would not have have overlooked. Yeah the cost-factor is a major consideration, but I'm sure there were many other practical factors which weighed in favour of the new design.
I also don't want to come across as naive in saying this, but given how expensive the Note 8 actually retails for, does the "cost savings" argument really even hold much water, any more than it being a convenient excuse? The fact is, Samsung could have put nearly any price tag on this unit and it clearly wouldn't have made much difference to their sales at the end of the day. People are prepared to pay a fortune for this device, just because it's "the new Samsung Galaxy Note" -- so there urgency for Samsung to take cost-cutting shortcuts couldn't have been all that great. Then again, I suppose when we consider how much the Note 7 disaster must have cost them, I suppose anything is possible after all
Granted, we all have our preferences though, and I can totally understand why some prefer 16:9 form factor and might even be disappointed/angered by this trend. You could certainly argue that anyone looking for long/narrow flagship offering could just buy the S8+ such that Samsung should have left the Note 8 form factor untouched, leaving customers with more variety in this regard instead of conforming everything to this new fashion trend... but it is what it is, and the overall sales figures will speak the loudest in the end. Can't wait to see what the future of this space holds though
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I find the more narrower a phone more of a being ripped off / short changed nickel and diming like OP does , especially when it's a "Note". I'm allowed to air my views ? Being easier to hold in the hand is perhaps true, but this is the makers justification for cutting corners to increase revenue but still charge a premium.
Karma already came and bit Samsung in the ass ref: the N7 fiasco, it will continue to do so should they keep abusing their position ethically and their clients. I remember Samsung when they were chasing Apple clients for customers, as soon as they got what they wanted figures wise they put the middle finger up on the folks who made them bigger than Apple.
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I have a Note 5 & wish they had stayed with that screen ratio rather than the narrow one of the S8, it just looks a bit odd on a Note.
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The same to me, I have both the 5 and the 8 here on the table, and I prefer the 5.
Also wearing it in my shirtpocket it extends too much.
No need either for a software home button. I really see not much advantage for a larger screen.
Was completely happy with the note 5. I bought the 8 because more memory. I use dual SIM so no SD card.
Disppointed? No, but still...
haha,
Huib
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I agree. It's all about the costs. I prefer 16:9 ratio.
And to add insult to injury they made the Note 8 narrower screen curved!
Not really Note anymore is it ?
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I was using the note in a public bus today. I feel a little bit embarrased with this screen. I cannot hide it in my hand, so everybody sees I have this huge thing.
Huib
I noticed how much I liked the Note 2 when I brought home the Note 5.
Embarrassed by the size, no way.
I'm at a disaster recovery exercise and I've had my large screen phone in my hand all day.
Coming from S9, Note 10+ and many other older galaxy phones have to say this is absolutely the worst Samsung device I have ever owned.
For those considering, here are reasons why you should strongly think about whether you want to spend the money on this particular model
- Extremely large and heavy device. Doesn't fit in pockets, pulls down pants / shirts it is so heavy
- Extremely unbalanced. Hurts your hand / wrist trying to balance it unless you get a popsocket because it is so top heavy
- Super fragile screen. Low cost panel is super easy to break. Mine broke after 4 weeks of light use in a weird way (half on / half off, intermittant dimming of each display half)
- Loaded with malware. Tons of Samsung malware / adware / spyware to debloat, assuming you get the Exynos
- Back coating for anything but Silver is super easily chipped. Phantom Black chips daily unless you get a case (and increase the size)
- Runs hot. Nice in winter to keep you hands warm but otherwise annoying - any videos or games and expect to feel the heat
- Slow to charge. Super Fast charger takes an hour and a half
- Camera is misleading. Only certain zoom increments work correctly - all others are blurry / basically no improvement relative to s20
While the 10x zoom is sort of cool the reality is that this phone is a lemon compared to other Samsungs or current Apple competition.
Very unrefined effort relative to iphone or better Sammy devices (ex. Note 10+ or Galaxy Alpha) in terms of weight / materials / balance / display.
Likely last Samsung I buy - seriously considering Pixel 5 on GrapheneOS given the litany of hardware and software issues from a super expensive phone you don't really even own.
Interesting perspective. This is my first return to Samsung after writing them off years ago. Outside of the bloat (which can be removed via ADB) and the lack luster camera performance (in comparison to the Pixel line) the phone is solid! It's not any heavier than other similar size devices. It's very fluid and smooth. It's got great hardware and build quality.
If it hurts your wrist... I really can't help you there. Never had such an issue. The balance point in the device is at about the power button so pretty mid phone really.
Most of the weight related comments are subjective. I actually prefer the weight and feel of this device compared to the Note 20 ultra.
You forgot... no SD card slot. No native spen.
And those wretched rounded display corners.
I would at least expect it to be more durable with dog ugly rounded corners. It's a step backward in design and features. I wouldn't buy it for $400.
It wouldn't be the first time I rejected/bypassed a Samsung release.
Samsung has always run hot and cold.
Feel the wuv... just my opinion
blackhawk said:
You forgot... no SD card slot. No native spen.
And those wretched rounded display corners.
I would at least expect it to be more durable with dog ugly rounded corners. It's a step backward in design and features. I wouldn't buy it for $400.
It wouldn't be the first time I rejected/bypassed a Samsung release.
Samsung has always run hot and cold.
Feel the wuv... just my opinion
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I was like you once in regards to the near right angled corners of the Note series. It was my favorite aesthetic part of this phone. But maybe boredom got the better of the me. As I'm digging the smooth rounded corners now. It's so nice to hold in the hand nekid. Ooh errr....
The curved edges are less aggressive as well. The s21U with a 6.9" display would have been nice. Roll on the s22U lol. Truth be told, I would have probably been a Huawei guy by now. Now they make some good hardware. But ant competitive practices put an end to their rise to dominance.
PS I'm in the process of removing bloat. Doesn't seem to be as effective on this device. Perhaps disabling isn't as good as uninstalling like what I used to do ?
This is an entirely subjective assessment of the phone. I never had any of these issues and I thoroughly enjoy the experience of the phone. I made sure to do my research before getting this phone and weigh what the important aspects of it vs the not so important aspects. I'm sorry you've had this experience and I hope you get the right device for you next time.
Are your Wrists made out of glass?
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Are your Wrists made out of glass?
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Mine are quite strong surprisingly
Perhaps consider using a belt or jackets with bigger pockets... This phone weighs as much as the iPhone 12 Pro Max and less than the Mi 11 Ultra. If you want the best, you have to accept the weight.
There's no more or less "malware" than any other Samsung device.
What's misleading about the camera? It's got 4 rear cameras each with a specific zoom level.
This sounds like one of those situations where you should've tried out the phone in a store before buying it. Online reviews isn't the same as holding it in your hands.
beserker15 said:
Perhaps consider using a belt or jackets with bigger pockets... This phone weighs as much as the iPhone 12 Pro Max and less than the Mi 11 Ultra. If you want the best, you have to accept the weight.
There's no more or less "malware" than any other Samsung device.
What's misleading about the camera? It's got 4 rear cameras each with a specific zoom level.
This sounds like one of those situations where you should've tried out the phone in a store before buying it. Online reviews isn't the same as holding it in your hands.
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Indeed. The issue with the size and weight would've been avoided if he/she had done a physical trial of the phone before buying.
Also, the experience of one doesn't mean the experience of many.
Limeybastard said:
I was like you once in regards to the near right angled corners of the Note series. It was my favorite aesthetic part of this phone. But maybe boredom got the better of the me. As I'm digging the smooth rounded corners now. It's so nice to hold in the hand nekid. Ooh errr....
The curved edges are less aggressive as well. The s21U with a 6.9" display would have been nice. Roll on the s22U lol. Truth be told, I would have probably been a Huawei guy by now. Now they make some good hardware. But ant competitive practices put an end to their rise to dominance.
PS I'm in the process of removing bloat. Doesn't seem to be as effective on this device. Perhaps disabling isn't as good as uninstalling like what I used to do ?
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Which device are you debloating, the 20U right?
I sent you a PM.
Limeybastard said:
Mine are quite strong surprisingly
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Thousands of Generations of the male anatomy have prepared our wrists for our arch nemesis, The Galaxy S21 Ultra.
sultan.of.swing said:
Thousands of Generations of the male anatomy have prepared our wrists for our arch nemesis, The Galaxy S21 Ultra.
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Walk softly and carry a big S21...
Sounds to me like the author of this potentially sarcastic post, really needs a pink iphone 12 mini.....
- Why does everyone think that we all want to hear what they hate about the phone?
- If you hate the phone and want to sell it then sell it and move one.
- This whole show of "Why I don't like this phone", to prove how more superior you are to the people that like the phone.
- Most of the "issues" are not issues just your opinions
- Bullet lists are short and contain little facts as they are meant to be used as agenda or discussion points
- Most people use screen protectors and cases
- If you need to tell strangers why you got rid of something you do not value in a long list of bullet points then you have narcissistic* tendencies.
* is a mental condition in which people have an inflated sense of their own importance, a deep need for excessive attention and admiration, troubled relationships, and a lack of empathy for others
lywyn said:
- Bullet lists are short and contain little facts as they are meant to be used as agenda or discussion points
- Most people use screen protectors and cases
- If you need to tell strangers why you got rid of something you do not value in a long list of bullet points then you have narcissistic* tendencies.
* is a mental condition in which people have an inflated sense of their own importance, a deep need for excessive attention and admiration, troubled relationships, and a lack of empathy for others
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Yes so true, pleaze always use a case.
As for the rest; we were once gods.
Yeah... it's so depressing
Someone's angsty.
lywyn said:
- Why does everyone think that we all want to hear what they hate about the phone?
- If you hate the phone and want to sell it then sell it and move one.
- This whole show of "Why I don't like this phone", to prove how more superior you are to the people that like the phone.
- Most of the "issues" are not issues just your opinions
- Bullet lists are short and contain little facts as they are meant to be used as agenda or discussion points
- Most people use screen protectors and cases
- If you need to tell strangers why you got rid of something you do not value in a long list of bullet points then you have narcissistic* tendencies.
* is a mental condition in which people have an inflated sense of their own importance, a deep need for excessive attention and admiration, troubled relationships, and a lack of empathy for others
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lywyn said:
- Why does everyone think that we all want to hear what they hate about the phone?
- If you hate the phone and want to sell it then sell it and move one.
- This whole show of "Why I don't like this phone", to prove how more superior you are to the people that like the phone.
- Most of the "issues" are not issues just your opinions
- Bullet lists are short and contain little facts as they are meant to be used as agenda or discussion points
- Most people use screen protectors and cases
- If you need to tell strangers why you got rid of something you do not value in a long list of bullet points then you have narcissistic* tendencies.
* is a mental condition in which people have an inflated sense of their own importance, a deep need for excessive attention and admiration, troubled relationships, and a lack of empathy for others
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Can you PM your business card. Cheers.
This thread is going south ...
We got the OP's point. Point !