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HVGA resolution hack for Wildfire

Hello Guys,
I am new to android and it's very interesting for me to go through the discussions of rooting and other stuff. Brilliant!!
I just bought wildfire recently and hmm.. resolution is disappointment for me. I despirately need two things:
1. Hack for HVGA resolution.
2. Live wall paper.
It seems live wall paper is possible from my understandin after reading threads though. Is it possible and please advice me on this regard.
Thank you in advance.

Dude, no hack can push things over hardware limits... I m no android developer, but if you need higher resolution look for another android deveice..

vijaykr1985 said:
Hello Guys,
I am new to android and it's very interesting for me to go through the discussions of rooting and other stuff. Brilliant!!
I just bought wildfire recently and hmm.. resolution is disappointment for me. I despirately need two things:
1. Hack for HVGA resolution.
2. Live wall paper.
It seems live wall paper is possible from my understandin after reading threads though. Is it possible and please advice me on this regard.
Thank you in advance.
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check lcd density thread in themes and apps

I already checked lcd density app, but seems doesnt work perfectly.

I duno about you... but i think it will be really really hard for software to alter the hardware of a phone. hvga on the wildfire would be awesome... but not any sooner

vijaykr1985 said:
I already checked lcd density app, but seems doesnt work perfectly.
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not the app, i mean check the thread! you cant use the app u must change manually in system/build.prop
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i am using LCD Density for root. it works fine for me, on wildpuzzle v8
resolution reverts back to standard after reboot but it takes a few seconds to change again. and i don't reboot that often.
LCD Density changer never worked for me. But LCD Density for root (different program similar name) works fine and allows me to set my density to 100 (where 120 is default density) this certainly changes the resolution, whether it changes it to HVGA i dont know, but it is deffo higher resolution. with launcher pro set to 5 rows and 5 columns i have a lovely looking phone now. just waiting for our super fantastic devs to look into an overclock kernel and i will be set

I think you need to set density to 76 (not sure) to reach HVGA resolution and your screen looks fine though. Thanks for your information.

vijaykr1985 said:
I think you need to set density to 76 (not sure) to reach HVGA resolution and your screen looks fine though. Thanks for your information.
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ahh, i am well off then lol. with LCDDensity for root the lowest you can go is 100.
but like one poster above me said, i spose if you want a HVGA screen you pay the premium price for it. i am happy with my wildfire, i have to be, my wife won't let me buy a new phone for another year! i go through to many apparently. we will see though, if i buy a desire she may not know the difference

Not Possible IMO , Though I have also Worked with LCD Density Changer (Beansoft) Wildfire Looks Good With Density 100 / 110 , Any lower than than and the menu text and the Notification Icons looks Crappy.
We would need Hardware Upgrades (Better LCD) In Order to Increase it :-/ I So wish we had Better screen , Resolution is the worst Issue on Wildfire.

I just tried lcd density changer, 110 setting did nothing and 100 setting screws up the lockscreen slider and makes it laggy.

^^ Do it by small Changes , The Stock Lockscreen looks good at 100/110 , The HTC One Screws up.
I hate the Icons at Notification Bar , at 100 , too Small

true, it was the htc one that screwed, im looking at a mod to disable lock screen altogether though. kept it at 120 and did the 5 columns and 5 rows launcher pro mod.

You guys do realise that it's impossible to get HVGA on a QVGA screen?
LCD Density changer gives effect of Hi-Res Screen, but it makes a lot of apps look worse (Paper Toss is a prime example of this)
All it does is rescale some UI elements, not changes any hardware

LOL , Yeah We know LCD Density is just about "Feel-Good-Factor"

beardyone said:
i am using LCD Density for root. it works fine for me, on wildpuzzle v8
resolution reverts back to standard after reboot but it takes a few seconds to change again. and i don't reboot that often.
LCD Density changer never worked for me. But LCD Density for root (different program similar name) works fine and allows me to set my density to 100 (where 120 is default density) this certainly changes the resolution, whether it changes it to HVGA i dont know, but it is deffo higher resolution. with launcher pro set to 5 rows and 5 columns i have a lovely looking phone now. just waiting for our super fantastic devs to look into an overclock kernel and i will be set
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hi
Thanks for that
It works perfect, 110 is the best for me looks ok beter then 120

HCDR.Jacob said:
You guys do realise that it's impossible to get HVGA on a QVGA screen?
LCD Density changer gives effect of Hi-Res Screen, but it makes a lot of apps look worse (Paper Toss is a prime example of this)
All it does is rescale some UI elements, not changes any hardware
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i seeeeeee. i read the full disclaimer now on the lcddensity app and it does say it 'virtually' changes resolution or something similar. it was something new to try anyway, and it looks good i have had the phone for 3 weeks now and i dont think there has been a single night where i havent had it in my hands flashing roms and trying apps.

Oh well. So no other way to make resolution high?

Resolution Can't Increased Without a hardware Upgrade , So No Can Do.

110 seems to look best on the wildfire ... at least for me

[SUGGESTION] Correct scaling for Sense 3.0

I flashed one of the Sense 3.0 roms today and found that the entire rom is slightly-off scale. The best way to see this is to add an analog clock, and it looks like it is flattened with the horizontal diameter longer than the vertical one. I did some calculations and this is because:
Code:
Kingdom: qHD = 960/540 = 1.777...
Incredible: 800/480 = 1.666...
So as you can see, the Kingdom is a bit "taller", and thus directly translating the images from the Kingdom will lead to the screen appearing a bit stretched horizontally. I don't have much experience, but I can tell that adjusting EVERY image in a rom is probably extremely difficult.
So why not, instead of messing with images, modify the display?
Obviously we can't make our displays taller into
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1.777... * 480 = 854
854 by 480, so instead we can make our displays narrower. With some math:
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800 * (540/960) = 450
so we can make our displays 800x450 by chopping off 15 pixels from each side with some software hacks. Also, we could get around images being distorted by setting LCD density higher so that the images would fit.
That last part with LCD density is a bit iffy, but I'm sure that you devs can get it to work.
(Sorry if this is in the wrong section. I thought it would fit better in Development than in General.)

pianoplayer said:
I flashed one of the Sense 3.0 roms today and found that the entire rom is slightly-off scale. The best way to see this is to add an analog clock, and it looks like it is flattened with the horizontal diameter longer than the vertical one. I did some calculations and this is because:
Code:
Kingdom: qHD = 960/540 = 1.777...
Incredible: 800/480 = 1.666...
So as you can see, the Kingdom is a bit "taller", and thus directly translating the images from the Kingdom will lead to the screen appearing a bit stretched horizontally. I don't have much experience, but I can tell that adjusting EVERY image in a rom is probably extremely difficult.
So why not, instead of messing with images, modify the display?
Obviously we can't make our displays taller into
Code:
1.777... * 480 = 854
854 by 480, so instead we can make our displays narrower. With some math:
Code:
800 * (540/960) = 450
so we can make our displays 800x450 by chopping off 15 pixels from each side with some software hacks. Also, we could get around images being distorted by setting LCD density higher so that the images would fit.
That last part with LCD density is a bit iffy, but I'm sure that you devs can get it to work.
(Sorry if this is in the wrong section. I thought it would fit better in Development than in General.)
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It won't work changing the density has been tried the only way to resize is to use the m10 decoder and go through trial and error..

JoelZ9614 said:
It won't work changing the density has been tried the only way to resize is to use the m10 decoder and go through trial and error..
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How does the m10 decoder work? Is it multiplatform or Windows/Linux only, and GUI or terminal? If it works on Mac and is terminal-based, I will be willing to M10 all day (through Automator).

pianoplayer said:
How does the m10 decoder work? Is it multiplatform or Windows/Linux only, and GUI or terminal? If it works on Mac and is terminal-based, I will be willing to M10 all day (through Automator).
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Using search I Found this

I just asked all my friends, and not one of them could even see it wasnt perfect circle...your talking less than a percent off here? is it big enough of a problem to warrant 40 hours of man power to fix?

Afteraffekt said:
I just asked all my friends, and not one of them could even see it wasnt perfect circle...your talking less than a percent off here? is it big enough of a problem to warrant 40 hours of man power to fix?
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In my hour running Incubus' alpha, the bottom of the screen gets cut off in certain apps. I'd imagine the OP's suggested changes might fix that as well, and that's a dealbreaker for me.

Afteraffekt said:
I just asked all my friends, and not one of them could even see it wasnt perfect circle...your talking less than a percent off here? is it big enough of a problem to warrant 40 hours of man power to fix?
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Well, maybe 5%, but text is also wider than original. Very bad to my picky eyes.

Thats odd, Im comparing my phone (Sense 3.0) to my friends Stock Unrooted dinc, and i can barely see a different, except my images are higher quality.

So nobody can see it? Everything just looks so... off.

Sense 3.0 changed alot of the dimensions anyways, as I said most things are .9 images, and wont distory unless severe dimension changes, and .111 difference is pretty small.

I also noticed that text is wider-spaced. Can anybody see that?
I'm starting to think I'm paranoid...

Vernox701 said:
Using search I Found this
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"The devs have not made an official thread for their official release yet"

pianoplayer said:
"The devs have not made an official thread for their official release yet"
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Yea they did http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1060648

JoelZ9614 said:
Yea they did http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1060648
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Oh. Dang, it's an EXE. No automator unless someone wants to get this running in Crossover

320Dpi to 240Dpi

so my note has 320dpi native, what happens when i change it to 240dpi?
are there any advantages?Disadvantages?

This is being discussed on a separate thread, bit I think it is a good idea for a thread of its own.
I tried it, and the screen is much larger. That means most things in the screen are much smaller. It appears to make most launchers smoother as well.
I find it too small for my tired old eyes, but if your sight is good, I think it is a marvellous idea. It basically becomes a miniature tablet, and most apps seem to take advantage of that.
The stock phone dialer seems to be one of the very few TW apps that does not resize. TW also does not allow more cols and rows (IIRC), so it would be best to use another launcher, and perhaps Go Dialer.
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Actually the thread is here, so this is a duplicate:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1487309

you see more stuff in most apps for example in settings you see more options at once. most launchers do ok as long as you adjust rows columns although sometimes widgets look weird

i run darkyrom at 240dpi only. nothing is to small for me to read and everything but s-memo seems to work perfectly *you get some weird lines, just color over it with a white and go on with drawing .
i run adw ex launcher with 10x10 homescreen layout and 7 icon dockbar.

It´s so EASY!
It´s easy: Everbody who is interested in this, should definitly give it a shot. Get DPI Changer from the market for free and try it out yourself. There es nothing (again: nothing!) that will happen to your phone, you are always able to go back to 320 again without ANY issues.
The only one thing everbody has to do before is to install another launcher (I can fully recommend Go Launcher (ex), IMAO it´s the smoothest for our Gnote) just for that one reason: Damned TouchWiz doesn´t scale correctly.
Try it out folks, deside for yourself, it´s worth it!

just modify the build.prop density to 240. The default 320 is too big and it pains the eye after many usages!

there are a couple ways of doing it
the 2 above and also an app called "Rom Toolbox" which i recommend more then the others because it also gives you alot more options for different things other then DPI aswell.

Can someone upload 2 screenshots with both resolution please?
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus

The biggest advantage is that you can see more in the screen. Especially useful with context menu, browser, various apps and so on.
First 240 Dpi images
Images for 320

Thanks drgopoos... 240 looks more like a phone, and 320 looks more like a mini tablet... One question, does dpi is the same as ppi?
I see my iPhone 4svis 330 ppi the Gnex is 320ppi and the note is 236... does that mean the resolution is lower?
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus

i thought that 240 dpi is kinda crap but now changed from 320 to 240dpi and im enjoying it, looks so cool and more comfortable ;D

big samm said:
One question, does dpi is the same as ppi?
I see my iPhone 4svis 330 ppi the Gnex is 320ppi and the note is 236... does that mean the resolution is lower?
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
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It means that the screen has less physical pixels per inch, so it can be same resolution as a smaller screen that has bigger ppi.
Which means that even tho u have less ppi on the gnote, you still have more resolution than the other phones cause of the size of the gnote's screen.
Ppl say dpi for screens but the correct term is indeed ppi. dpi is for printers.

Does the CriskeloRom can also change to DPI or not ? need depend on the launcher or not ?

I don't really get the DPI subject

I'm not so sure I get the whole DPI subject, I thought DPI referred only to the "printed resolution" in other words , that DPI is the same as PPI but you talk about DPI from printed things and PPi for digital things, am I wrong?
The nexus 6 comes with a stock value of 480 DPI and if I want to have more space available when I'm using chrome, so I can fit more text on the screen I should lower it, but by doing it am I reducing the quality also?
I'd appreciate your input on this :laugh:

Chad_Petree said:
I'm not so sure I get the whole DPI subject, I thought DPI referred only to the "printed resolution" in other words , that DPI is the same as PPI but you talk about DPI from printed things and PPi for digital things, am I wrong?
The nexus 6 comes with a stock value of 480 DPI and if I want to have more space available when I'm using chrome, so I can fit more text on the screen I should lower it, but by doing it am I reducing the quality also?
I'd appreciate your input on this [emoji23]
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DPI refers to androids scaling where as PPI is the physical amount of pixels per inch on the screen so a lower DPI makes things be smaller on screen (which is what you want) where as higher makes text and things larger.
Also, stock DPI on the nexus 6 is 560 where as the PPI of the screen is 493. Personally, I like 520 DPI as its smaller than stock, but not so small that you can't see anything

ajhman said:
DPI refers to androids scaling where as PPI is the physical amount of pixels per inch on the screen so a lower DPI makes things be smaller on screen (which is what you want) where as higher makes text and things larger.
Also, stock DPI on the nexus 6 is 560 where as the PPI of the screen is 493. Personally, I like 520 DPI as its smaller than stock, but not so small that you can't see anything
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Thanks for taking the time to explain [emoji57] , and every android uses 560 dpi as default ? What do manufacturers take into account when choosing the DPI, only the screen size ?
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Chad_Petree said:
Thanks for taking the time to explain [emoji57] , and every android uses 560 dpi as default ? What do manufacturers take into account when choosing the DPI, only the screen size ?
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Whatever experience they want.

Chad_Petree said:
Thanks for taking the time to explain [emoji57] , and every android uses 560 dpi as default ? What do manufacturers take into account when choosing the DPI, only the screen size ?
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Nah, just the n6 uses 560 that I know of. It all comes down to personal preference on what you like.
When a manufacturer chooses a DPI they look at no only screen size, but resolution of the display because as PPI goes up DPI needs to as well

ajhman said:
as PPI goes up DPI needs to as well
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Not necessarily. Generally yes - but with big screens at higher resolutions, they may want to opt for more screen real estate than maintaining a proportional ratio to smaller screened devices.

Chad_Petree said:
I'm not so sure I get the whole DPI subject, I thought DPI referred only to the "printed resolution" in other words , that DPI is the same as PPI but you talk about DPI from printed things and PPi for digital things, am I wrong?
The nexus 6 comes with a stock value of 480 DPI and if I want to have more space available when I'm using chrome, so I can fit more text on the screen I should lower it, but by doing it am I reducing the quality also?
I'd appreciate your input on this :laugh:
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There is a lot of confusion and misinformation about this subject.
Fact is, that PPI and DPI are actually synonymous.
One pixel is one dot. Hence the number of pixels per inch is the same as the number of dots per inch.
The "standard" DPI/PPI resolution for Android is 160. It is so because the first Android device, the HTC Dream, was physically 160 DPI.
Now the way it works in Android, is that the SOFTWARE needs to be made AWARE of the physical resolution of the screen. This is why the build.prop file often has a parameter "ro.sf.lcd_density". This is the DPI/PPI value for the physical screen.
The kernel tells it what the overall resolution is, in the case of Nexus 6, 2560x1440. Knowing the DENSITY, and knowing the overall resolution, you can calculate the physical size of the display.
The reason why this information is necessary, is to be able to SCALE things -- text, UI elements like buttons, images -- such that they take a proper physical space on the screen. I.e., if you have a font size that displays with a character height of 1/3 inch on an HTC DREAM, then using the same number of PIXELS on a Nexus 6 would result in a character height of 1/10 inch, i.e., too small to actually read.
So instead, the fonts/UI elements/etc. are sized using something referred to as a DiP -- Density independent Pixel. This is, basically, 160 dpi. So what it does, is it SCALES everything into NATIVE pixels by the ratio between ro.sf.lcd_density and 160, so that things look the same size on the screen, and you are actually able to read it.
Now, it is technically incorrect to screw with the value of ro.sf.lcd_density, since this will convince Android that the screen is larger or smaller than it actually is. However, some people like a tighter or looser UI, so it is there in case they want to tweak it... within reason.

doitright said:
Now, it is technically incorrect to screw with the value of ro.sf.lcd_density, since this will convince Android that the screen is larger or smaller than it actually is. However, some people like a tighter or looser UI, so it is there in case they want to tweak it... within reason.
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So basically a device like the nexus which has a 1080p 5" screen has a 445 PPI and a 445 DPI and the nexus 6 has a 5.96" display which is 493 PPI and 493 DPI, I just get confused for example because on a macbook pro retina you get a resolution which is greater than QHD but still get a "working space" of a 720p display and I assume it has to do with the DPI

Question S21 Ultra default minimum width dpi in Developer Options

Title speaks for it self... Stayed a bit with 515 (and even 600) and although I like the spacing and screen size it's kind of fatiguing to the eyes; to a level in which i guess I ran more to my laptop... Just realized it today
Wanna go back and I went with 411 but not sure if this is the default one. Anyway all looks very crisp and sharp now

384 dp is the default

Wow... Thanks... Seems kind of big tbh... Thought was higher than the 411 I found elsewhere for sure not smaller

ccezar2004 said:
Wow... Thanks... Seems kind of big tbh... Thought was higher than the 411 I found elsewhere for sure not smaller
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it's because you're so used to the small sizes now lol

Been at 593 since I got it and never going back.

Why this particular value? Just curious. I've seen that after 600'ish even app layouts are changing... Like it's a tablet or sorts...

I tried a few values, and yeah, around 600 some things won't display correctly, 593 was the value I settled on, looks good and small, display everything right, and never had a reason to change it again.

Hello can you upload a screen shot to see how things are with this DPI please ?

I don't know if this works for long, but here it is.
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