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What is happening? Pulled battery 5 times already today...what should I do and would pulling battery as often as this affect my phone or battery?
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What sort of set up are you running there?
Stock, non-rooted N1? Or did you upgrade to FroYo over an existing install using Paul's zip? Any applications installed? When is the phone freezing?
Would love to help, but I think we're going to need a little bit more information from you first.
What sort of set up are you running there?
Stock, non-rooted N1? Or did you upgrade to FroYo over an existing install using Paul's zip? Any applications installed? When is the phone freezing?
Would love to help, but I think we're going to need a little bit more information from you first.
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Previously rooted N1 back to stock rom prior installing froyo from Paul's direct install file for rooted N1 because I lacked stock recovery image.
Basic apps installed like ebuddy news apps etc. didn't install anything different from old install.
Like I mentioned phone stalls in while in sleep mode. Need to pull battery. Cannot soft or hard reset phone.
Ive been reading a lot on xda and didnt notice this occurring in pther phones thats y i decided to open a new thread.
Any help is appreciated thanks!
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rensky said:
Previously rooted N1 back to stock rom prior installing froyo from Paul's direct install file for rooted N1 because I lacked stock recovery image.
Basic apps installed like ebuddy news apps etc. didn't install anything different from old install.
Like I mentioned phone stalls in while in sleep mode. Need to pull battery. Cannot soft or hard reset phone.
Ive been reading a lot on xda and didnt notice this occurring in pther phones thats y i decided to open a new thread.
Any help is appreciated thanks!
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Did you wipe? If not, usually a wipe helps. I wiped and have not had a single issue of FC...Freezing or anything. I went from Enom to Wipe to Paul's Zip with Radio.
I have the same problem. Until now the screen stayed black after the other party ended the call. Had to pull battery 3 times.
Problem exists even after reflashing, wiping and clearing storage.
Im om pre-rooted frf50 from paul. Gonna try with an older radio..
Previously rooted N1 back to stock rom prior installing froyo from Paul's direct install file for rooted N1 because I lacked stock recovery image.
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Did you wipe? If not, usually a wipe helps. I wiped and have not had a single issue of FC...Freezing or anything. I went from Enom to Wipe to Paul's Zip with Radio.
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I did wipe prior flashing to Paul's zip with radio.
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I have the same problem. Until now the screen stayed black after the other party ended the call. Had to pull battery 3 times.
Problem exists even after reflashing, wiping and clearing storage.
Im om pre-rooted frf50 from paul. Gonna try with an older radio..
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Can u post whether flashing with an older radio will help and provide link to the older radio? Thanks! Hope it works for you.
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rensky said:
Can u post whether flashing with an older radio will help and provide link to the older radio? Thanks! Hope it works for you.
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I am testing with 4.04.00.03_2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6026480&postcount=3
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I am testing with 4.04.00.03_2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6026480&postcount=3
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does it work?
Im having similar issues with my 2.2 installation. I have it installed on my wife's non-rooted N1.
Not just that but the market is not even usable. Even if I clear cache.
Again, her phone is not rooted, I wipped everything from her phone then applied Froyo and its been a nightmare. Her phone isn't even stable enough to use and I cant seem to figure it out.
I need to find a way back to 2.1 without having to root her phone. She is adamant about me not doing that to her phone even though Ive rooted all the phones I've ever used with no issues.
I was having the same problem on my N1. Started suddenly two days after the manual upgrade to 2.2. The phone would either freeze to a black screen or sometimes the live wallpaper would continue but the phone was unresponsive even to the power button. Needed to pull the battery to restart.
It stopped after I:
* Turned off live wallpaper
* Uninstalled LauncherPro Beta
* Removed the Pure Calender Widget (was broken after 2.2 update anyway)
* Charged the battery (was down to below 10% when it started happening repeatedly).
Anyone one of them (or none of them) could have been the culprit. My guess it was one of the last two (PureCalender or battery) but haven't had time to troubleshoot it. Try some of these and see if it helps.
Ive tried all that on her phone. I just wiped it again completely and re flashed just in case that was the issue. Phone still had all the issues described in this thread.
I wiped the sd card, wiped all previous system files via the stock recovery and re flashed the update zip. You cant get anymore clean than that and its still so unstable the phone its unusable. I have to either hope soft booting works or pull the battery as a last ditch.
Is there any way I could downgrade her phone to 2.1 without rooting? I tried the shipping rom in the sticky above but it seems that isn't totally legit for stock use because the phone doesn't like how its signed.
I guess I could call google/htc tomorrow but who knows where that'll get me. The only bonus iud that her phone is not rooted so she didn't really have her warranty voided.
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I was having the same problem on my N1. Started suddenly two days after the manual upgrade to 2.2. The phone would either freeze to a black screen or sometimes the live wallpaper would continue but the phone was unresponsive even to the power button. Needed to pull the battery to restart.
It stopped after I:
* Turned off live wallpaper
* Uninstalled LauncherPro Beta
* Removed the Pure Calender Widget (was broken after 2.2 update anyway)
* Charged the battery (was down to below 10% when it started happening repeatedly).
Anyone one of them (or none of them) could have been the culprit. My guess it was one of the last two (PureCalender or battery) but haven't had time to troubleshoot it. Try some of these and see if it helps.
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I was worried if I was the only one with this problem. Phone improved today (3rd day of using) but I didn't do anything to it. Only hanged once when someone called. Hanged on calling in screen and had to pull battery.
Only once compared to 7 times yesterday!
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does it work?
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Yes until now it does. Sometimes the power button is reacting a little late but i havent had to pull the battery yet with the older radio.
You might want to download it again and flash that to see if you had a corrupt download. First copy all data from the sd and partition it. Just make everything fat. I havent used the stock recovery in ages so I cant recall if you can partition from there, if you cant, do it on the pc. Wipe everything that the stock recovery can wipe. Then try to flash your new download of the update. You can do this fairly quickly and its worth a try before you go through the process of reverting to 2.1.
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You might want to download it again and flash that to see if you had a corrupt download. First copy all data from the sd and partition it. Just make everything fat. I havent used the stock recovery in ages so I cant recall if you can partition from there, if you cant, do it on the pc. Wipe everything that the stock recovery can wipe. Then try to flash your new download of the update. You can do this fairly quickly and its worth a try before you go through the process of reverting to 2.1.
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I'll give this a shot when I get home from work. I'll report back on if it works or not. Thanks for the idea.
Interesting, not that I'm complaining, but after a few days of using 2.2 it seems more stable now....? haven't had any freezes today...yet.
Power button response also getting better.
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I haven't had any issues for a few days as well. Still wondering if it had to do with the battery level.
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SurfHost said:
I have the same problem. Until now the screen stayed black after the other party ended the call. Had to pull battery 3 times.
Problem exists even after reflashing, wiping and clearing storage.
Im om pre-rooted frf50 from paul. Gonna try with an older radio..
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Older radios are not 100% compatible.
Hi everyone.
So, this is my problem:
http://images.orkut.com/orkut/photo...9E7ePr_8Am1T1UHiPgwGpeh7tb_Dn59t24Hsb_ZWU.jpg
My wi-fi is turning on by itself after i manually turn it off. And even when i set plane mode the wi-fi is still on. At first i thought it was impossible and i was dreaming but no. This is really annoying me, my battery won't last a day with my wifi always on.
If anyone could possibly help me with this problem i would really aprecciate it! =(
Oh and i already tried wiping all user data and tried flashing other roms as well. I tried shadowmod and cyanogen too. currently i'm using the froyomod 2.7. All have the same problem. I really don't know what to do.
felipevilasboas2 said:
Hi everyone.
So, this is my problem:
http://images.orkut.com/orkut/photo...9E7ePr_8Am1T1UHiPgwGpeh7tb_Dn59t24Hsb_ZWU.jpg
My wi-fi is turning on by itself after i manually turn it off. And even when i set plane mode the wi-fi is still on. At first i thought it was impossible and i was dreaming but no. This is really annoying me, my battery won't last a day with my wifi always on.
If anyone could possibly help me with this problem i would really aprecciate it! =(
Oh and i already tried wiping all user data and tried flashing other roms as well. I tried shadowmod and cyanogen too. currently i'm using the froyomod 2.7. All have the same problem. I really don't know what to do.
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Do you have any 3rd party power saving apps installed? For example, I have an app called "Network Switcher" installed, that given certain conditions, it turns on or off 3g and wifi. I have it set to turn 3g and wifi off between 11:15pm and 7:15am if the screen is off. (this helps save a ton of battery while I'm sleeping)
Your screenshot doesn't look like a clean stock ROM, so even if you did wipe data, it looks like you installed some stuff. Did you do a complete wipe back to stock, and it's still doing this?
No, i don't use any apps to save battery or manage my networks. And yes, everytime i install or upgrade to a new rom i wipe all data. I haven't tried using the 2.2 stock rom to see if i'd have the problem there too. I'm currently using froyomod, i have always used modified roms and i'd never had this sort of problem before.
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No, i don't use any apps to save battery or manage my networks. And yes, everytime i install or upgrade to a new rom i wipe all data. I haven't tried using the 2.2 stock rom to see if i'd have the problem there too. I'm currently using froyomod, i have always used modified roms and i'd never had this sort of problem before.
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So when did it start happening? Did you notice it after you installed something? Or after you flashed your current ROM? Did you have anything installed before that may have been saved to your SD card using apps2sd, and it somehow got "lost", but the setting remained?
If I were you, I would flash the stock 2.2.1 SBF (get it here: http://and-developers.com/sbf:milestone221), and reflash the latest FroyoMOD on top of that. First back up all your app data using TB though, and restore afterwards. That may be your only hope.
I noticed it after i installed Froyomod 2.7, but i don't think it was the rom since nobody else complained about a problem like that. And i haven't installed any different apps than the ones i've always used.
Thank you for the advice! I'll try to flash the SBF file right now, and i will also erase my SD Card, just in case.
I'll let you know after it's done. Thanks again!!
Unfortunately i did everything as i was told and nothing worked, the problem won't go away. Guess i'll have to use the 2.1 stock rom. It's better than having my wi-fi always on. But thanks for the help!! =)
felipevilasboas2 said:
Unfortunately i did everything as i was told and nothing worked, the problem won't go away. Guess i'll have to use the 2.1 stock rom. It's better than having my wi-fi always on. But thanks for the help!! =)
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Turns out you're not the only one... see here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1064823
They did not have any solutions that worked for them either though. Sorry.
Yes, a few people had this problem as well, but nobody said if they got to fix it or if it stopped.
The most annoying thing: I went back to 2.1 stock rom because i thought it would stop, when i installed it was ok but after a few hours that i'm using the rom the problem started again.
This really sucks. I will never buy any motorola products no more.
Anyway, thanks for your help. It's really good to have helpful people on this forum.
Turning the airplane mode on will not disable your wifi... only the radio(antena).
The question is: does your radio works normally?
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Yes, everything is working normally, only the wifi that won't turn off.
Ok... there are two free apps on the Market that might fiz your problem.
1) Wifi Fixer
2) FXR Wifi fix and Rescue
Try it and let us know.
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I had already tried wifi fixer before, didn't work.
Tried FXR and didn't work as well! Honestly i'm giving up.
I will sell this phone as soon as i get the chance and i'm never gonna buy a motorola ever again! -__-'
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Dont give up yet... have you tried flashing the GOT 2.2.1?
Try this and flash CM7 over it.
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I tried CM7 and had the same problem. I think it might be a hardware problem because i tried everything. :/
felipevilasboas2 said:
Hi everyone.
So, this is my problem:
http://images.orkut.com/orkut/photo...9E7ePr_8Am1T1UHiPgwGpeh7tb_Dn59t24Hsb_ZWU.jpg
My wi-fi is turning on by itself after i manually turn it off. And even when i set plane mode the wi-fi is still on. At first i thought it was impossible and i was dreaming but no. This is really annoying me, my battery won't last a day with my wifi always on.
If anyone could possibly help me with this problem i would really aprecciate it! =(
Oh and i already tried wiping all user data and tried flashing other roms as well. I tried shadowmod and cyanogen too. currently i'm using the froyomod 2.7. All have the same problem. I really don't know what to do.
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Hi, I think the problem is coming from the ROM.
First you should wipe cach/data. I mean factory reset, then download a newly fresh Open Recoveries, and do the flash ROM again and place it into SD card (remember to delete the old one: Nandroid and Open recoveries folders and update.zip file). THIS STEP IS IMPORTANT.
Here is the link of CM7 ROm but very light. it si good for MS than ever:
http://www.mediafire.com/?hdymcqvueo8opm9
Below is the google apps package:
http://www.mirrorcreator.com/files/GV5OSDAN/Gapps_CM7_new.zip_links (including Gtalk)
I use it and it works well.
Just flashed a few days ago and really enjoying this rom. As a lurker newb, I particularly appreciate the careful and exact instructions. Thanks!
Since there doesn't appear to be an "official" q&a thread for Pinnacle (and I don't have enough posts to ask in development):
I've been getting occasional random reboots since flashing to Pinnacle. Haven't had this with other roms. It doesn't happen while the phone is idle (to my knowledge), just sometimes when I'm doing something (but never the same thing twice). Is this a memory issue? Bad flash?
I searched the development thread and saw a couple of similar issues mentioned but no suggestions are offered...
Are you using TW launcher?
You have to tell more than that bud. When does it happen? Does it happen on fresh pinnacle flash without any TiBU restore whatsoever?
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You have to tell more than that bud. When does it happen? Does it happen on fresh pinnacle flash without any TiBU restore whatsoever?
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Sorry, new at this. I haven't tried it on a fresh flash without TiBu. Would it work to wipe cache and data or should I re-flash, too?
Edit: I'm using the Samsung Home launcher
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Sorry, new at this. I haven't tried it on a fresh flash without TiBu. Would it work to wipe cache and data or should I re-flash, too?
Edit: I'm using the Samsung Home launcher
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yea do this
1. Try reflashing and use without TiBU for a couple of hours.
2. If you still have the problem then I am sorry my friend your phone hates TW4 launcher which is "Samsung Home"
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yea do this
1. Try reflashing and use without TiBU for a couple of hours.
2. If you still have the problem then I am sorry my friend your phone hates TW4 launcher which is "Samsung Home"
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Alright, I'll give it a try and report back. I can live without TW4 launcher if it means keeping the rom.
Haven't tried re-flashing yet, but I switched my launcher to ADW and haven't had a reboot since. Thanks!
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I was wondering if someone could lay out some steps for me. I am not new to rooting android phones and flashing ROMs but I have only ever worked with Motorola devices. This is my first LG phone and it is currently 100% stock with the latest GB update (2.3.4). I would greatly appreciate it if someone could lay out the steps I need take to get Gingervolt. Please and thank you.
Use windows to run the bat file in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1348557
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Use windows to run the bat file in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1348557
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That only gets the phone rooted correct?
BigShowJoe said:
That only gets the phone rooted correct?
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Rooted with cwm installed. I then just flash GingerVolt 1. 3 and anything else you want.
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Yeah, if you're coming from Motorola phones, you'll find the Revo remarkably easy to customize. No more bootstrapping for you.
It's almost so easy, you'll worry you're doing something wrong just because it "should be" more difficult.
Join us on IRC if you find yourself needing any help or have any questions; there's almost always someone on there who can help you out (some of us don't ever sleep, I think). Info for that is in my sig.
What's sleep?
Haro912 said:
What's sleep?
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You can sleep when your dead!!!
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Yeah, if you're coming from Motorola phones, you'll find the Revo remarkably easy to customize. No more bootstrapping for you.
It's almost so easy, you'll worry you're doing something wrong just because it "should be" more difficult.
Join us on IRC if you find yourself needing any help or have any questions; there's almost always someone on there who can help you out (some of us don't ever sleep, I think). Info for that is in my sig.
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Thanks for all the input guys and yes it did seem too easy. That's why I asked questions. Everything went smoothly though and I am now on Gingervolt. Couple of questions/comments about this phone though, first, maybe its coincidence but it seems like my 4g speeds are faster after flashing Gingervolt. When the phone was stock and stock rooted, I was only getting 10-11 Mbps download and 6-7 Mbps upload. Now I am getting high 20's download and high teens upload which is what I was expecting anyway. Also, have any of you noticed this phone rebooting on its own and sometimes just being powered off when you reach for it? I haven't seen the rebooting since getting Gingervolt going but twice this morning already I have gone to check it and the phone was just powered off...
Also, any recommendations on a wifi tethering program that works well with the revo?
Forgive my ignorance but what is IRC and how do I use/participate?
Thanks again everyone.
http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/
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Thanks for all the input guys and yes it did seem too easy. That's why I asked questions. Everything went smoothly though and I am now on Gingervolt. Couple of questions/comments about this phone though, first, maybe its coincidence but it seems like my 4g speeds are faster after flashing Gingervolt. When the phone was stock and stock rooted, I was only getting 10-11 Mbps download and 6-7 Mbps upload. Now I am getting high 20's download and high teens upload which is what I was expecting anyway. Also, have any of you noticed this phone rebooting on its own and sometimes just being powered off when you reach for it? I haven't seen the rebooting since getting Gingervolt going but twice this morning already I have gone to check it and the phone was just powered off...
Also, any recommendations on a wifi tethering program that works well with the revo?
Forgive my ignorance but what is IRC and how do I use/participate?
Thanks again everyone.
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IRC is our chat.
http://webchat.freenode.net/
Channel is #lgrevolution
GINGERVOLTED!
BigShowJoe said:
Thanks for all the input guys and yes it did seem too easy. That's why I asked questions. Everything went smoothly though and I am now on Gingervolt. Couple of questions/comments about this phone though, first, maybe its coincidence but it seems like my 4g speeds are faster after flashing Gingervolt. When the phone was stock and stock rooted, I was only getting 10-11 Mbps download and 6-7 Mbps upload. Now I am getting high 20's download and high teens upload which is what I was expecting anyway. Also, have any of you noticed this phone rebooting on its own and sometimes just being powered off when you reach for it? I haven't seen the rebooting since getting Gingervolt going but twice this morning already I have gone to check it and the phone was just powered off...
Also, any recommendations on a wifi tethering program that works well with the revo?
Forgive my ignorance but what is IRC and how do I use/participate?
Thanks again everyone.
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Personally, I'm not a fan of using the IRC webchat. If you plan on using it more than once or twice, it's worth the time to install an IRC app.
The most popular one for Windoze is mIRC. I'm on a Mac and use Colloquy, but there may be a better option out there, I haven't bothered to check. No idea what a good Linux client is, but Google knows all.
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Personally, I'm not a fan of using the IRC webchat. If you plan on using it more than once or twice, it's worth the time to install an IRC app.
The most popular one for Windoze is mIRC. I'm on a Mac and use Colloquy, but there may be a better option out there, I haven't bothered to check. No idea what a good Linux client is, but Google knows all.
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I use Konversation when I'm on Linux. Never used anything but that though. Also, I download mIRC awhile back and never used it. Went to check it out and now I must pay lol
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I use Konversation when I'm on Linux. Never used anything but that though. Also, I download mIRC awhile back and never used it. Went to check it out and now I must pay lol
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Eh? It seems to still be free?
I jsut found Xchat and it works and is free win!
This phone is just not working out for me with all the reboots and random power off issues. I am missing too many calls, emails, and texts. I have arranged to return it but I want to un-rom and un-root it first. Please correct me if any of my steps are wrong to do that.
1. Boot into CWR
2. Wipe data
3. update the .zip of the original backup I made after rooting
4. run the unroot.bat from windows
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This phone is just not working out for me with all the reboots and random power off issues. I am missing too many calls, emails, and texts. I have arranged to return it but I want to un-rom and un-root it first. Please correct me if any of my steps are wrong to do that.
1. Boot into CWR
2. Wipe data
3. update the .zip of the original backup I made after rooting
4. run the unroot.bat from windows
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Just restore first back up from right after you rooted. Then run the unroot.bat. Receive new phone
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Just restore first back up from right after you rooted. Then run the unroot.bat. Receive new phone
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Do I restore Data only?
BigShowJoe said:
Do I restore Data only?
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Disregard this comment. I just realized I don't do an advanced restore. DURRR.
Ok, so now I am back to stock, un-rooted GB (2.3.4). I know CWM is still installed and if I do a Factory data reset from Settings | Privacy it will get the phone stuck in a CWM boot loop. So my question is, to wipe all data, do I just do it from CWM?
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Ok, so now I am back to stock, un-rooted GB (2.3.4). I know CWM is still installed and if I do a Factory data reset from Settings | Privacy it will get the phone stuck in a CWM boot loop. So my question is, to wipe all data, do I just do it from CWM?
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I believe the unroot bat takes cwm off... Not sure though
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Hey guys, I was running Maximum overdrive v1.0 and beastmode 56.8 kernel (no tweaks) when my phone starts freezing and rebooting. It would happen often and even at times It wouldn't boot completely I would have to remove the battery for It to boot. Then It started to get "kernel panic ulpoad mode" I odin flashed back to stock MM but same issues going on. Any ideas? Or its time for a new phone? Thank you
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Hey guys, I was running Maximum overdrive v1.0 and beastmode 56.8 kernel (no tweaks) when my phone starts freezing and rebooting. It would happen often and even at times It wouldn't boot completely I would have to remove the battery for It to boot. Then It started to get "kernel panic ulpoad mode" I odin flashed back to stock MM but same issues going on. Any ideas? Or its time for a new phone? Thank you
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I was curious cause I never heard of that , and some people said a factory reset solved the problem . However a fresh Odin install is good. Did you wipe system as well as the normal wipes?
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I was curious cause I never heard of that , and some people said a factory reset solved the problem . However a fresh Odin install is good. Did you wipe system as well as the normal wipes?
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Yes I did, and nothing seemed to work, even went back to stock 5.1 and same issues consist.
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carmona_sc said:
Yes I did, and nothing seemed to work, even went back to stock 5.1 and same issues consist.
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Yikes. I didn't even see a ton of info on the subject. I can't imagine there is anything left on the device to cause any issues. Hopefully someone with more knowledge about this sees this post. Note 7 release party Aug 2nd if it comes to that!
same issue i see alot of people with it, its the emmc i confirmed it beause yesterday while i was alseep my emmc decided to give up on life no recovery no download failed to read emmc, the problem is repairing it im not gonna take it to samsung as they will charge almost the price of a new phone i have found a chip for it but it says it has sm n910p/f firmware on it not sure if it would be an issue as i could reflash the tmobile firmware on it.
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Bran...2630152207.html?spm=2114.40010708.4.13.nPWCQ2
any advice on the chip?
So, what was the final solution?