Lose root after flashing ICS ? - Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I'm a complete noob, so sorry if this is a dumb question. I have spent countless hours reading up on how to do all this stuff the last week but I haven't seen this addressed. I searched before posting, but couldn't find the answer. Will I lose root if flashing to ICS, and if so is there a method to get root again?
I've read that you are able to get root using CWM with 2.3.5. Will that be an option in ICS? Again sorry for the noob question, thanks.

As far as I know, almost all of the ICS Roms out there for Captivate are already rooted so you don't need to do it. Like the one from the CyanogenMod Team, which I'm using right now, is rooted. I'm guessing all the other ICS Roms too.
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That's good to hear! My head is swimming in it right now, so that is one less thing. Thanks a ton for the reply!

All custom roms are rooted. Why would a dev go through the trouble of building a Rom and not have it rooted?

I didn't realize that but it makes sense. Like I said I am completely new to this. I knew that root was lost going from froyo to even the unofficial gingerbread, so is the difference there that the 2.3 was a leak and exactly the same as the official?

yes... leaks are stock firmwares untouched by devs. we take that firmware, add several tweaks (root, zipalign, deodex, extended power menu, locks..ect) and theme it up and that is a rom.

I am enjoying learning all this so thanks for the response, it helps me put it all together in my head.

This, for me, is one of the main reason of using custom roms... pre-rooted and customized with all the bloat removed...
Devs on these boards have spent a good deal of their time making the process painless so people like you and I can enjoy these Android Devices like they truly were meant to be. Free of restrictions from telcos and OEMs...
Don't forget to thank the devs if you decide to use their roms... ^_^
Good luck.

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[Q] Tired of laggy performance on HERO

Folks: I have HERO and downloaded official 2.1 update earlier this summer. I was really hoping that issues like dialer lag and general "under-performance" feel on HERO would improve but I am still disappointed. I have still lot of time before I get eligible for a phone upgrade. I have no experience with rooting or custom ROMs. Would a HTC sense-less ROM help my case? I love the form-factor of this phone but lag just kills the experience.
I would really appreciate if someone can point me to step-by-step procedure on how to get a ROM on HERO that works lag-free.
thanks
keep it stock if you like. thats how i did it at first. i rooted the stock stuff and deleted tons of sprint bloatware and the other useless apps; peep, teeter, gmail, socialnetworkprovider.apk...tons of stuff. after doing ONLY that, my device was faster and more responsive. ive never used a 'killer' of any sorts. linux is smart and you dont need 'killers'. of course, others may argue differently.
so head over to the dev forum and learn how to root.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=674833
edit: read, read, read. thats what i was told to do and i did. a lot of prep was required before rooting but if you follow the directions, it will go very smoothly
In my opinion, the two fastest ROMs here are
Darchdroid 2.8 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=703133
and Cyanogenmod 6.0.0 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=722122
But know that these two ROMs are based off Android only, and don't have the HTC Sense user-interface (in other words, they will look different than stock and have some different apps and features).
But first you will need to root your phone following these steps here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=694572
After you root your phone, NANDROID BACKUP! Then you can try deleting apps like the post above mentions. See this post here about deleting apps: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=581976
If just doing that isn't good enough for you, try one of the two ROMs I posted above. I think you'll find that rooting your phone is a very wise and eye-opening decision
Lol chromiumleaf you didn't recommend the ROM in your sig
OP if you are willing to root and still want Sense UI, nfinitefx45's stock ROM is for you. If you follow the instructions you will basically run an over clocked (if you choose, but recommended), streamlined version of stock ROM + apps2sd (your choice, but recommended)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=703267
thank you all for quick replies and helpful pointers to the resources. Looks like rooting + deleting apps is the first step. I will try that. Btw hadnt relaized that custom ROMs is a world on its own
It sure it as I have also been reading, and one more thing incase you did not know and I don't believe it was mentioned in this thread you need to not be on the 2.1 .6 firmware, you need to downgrade to the .5 firmware to be able to root, I know it is in the instructions pasted by other but was just giving you a reminder incase you still have not done anything. Now if you did finally Root I would like to know how it went, as I am also almost ready to Root, tired of mine going into sleep mode and not responding, anyways it has been a while since you were suppose to have rooted, just curious how it went and how was your experience, and if you did finally go to a custom Rom which one did you go with??
don_walio said:
thank you all for quick replies and helpful pointers to the resources. Looks like rooting + deleting apps is the first step. I will try that. Btw hadnt relaized that custom ROMs is a world on its own
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don_walio said:
Folks: I have HERO and downloaded official 2.1 update earlier this summer. I was really hoping that issues like dialer lag and general "under-performance" feel on HERO would improve but I am still disappointed. I have still lot of time before I get eligible for a phone upgrade. I have no experience with rooting or custom ROMs. Would a HTC sense-less ROM help my case? I love the form-factor of this phone but lag just kills the experience.
I would really appreciate if someone can point me to step-by-step procedure on how to get a ROM on HERO that works lag-free.
thanks
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if you want to stay close to stock but be rooted id say use the stock rooted .6 rom with apps2sd. you could also use an oc kernel but i never found it did much for my phone. always use advance task killer and use a memory manager like autokiller and set it to aggressive or ultimate. my hero runs pretty good now. if your daring you could try the new froyo rom too.

[Q] What is the best rom for captivate..

Hi all Thanks to all.... Newbie here with flashing and all so i just want to get started on the right track... being doing alot of reading just wanted to know what is the safest rom right now for the captivate....
also ive downloaded bay_wolfs AIO captivate tool ...if i use this tool i dont have to go through the the whole process of installing rom manager..zip files etc..do i if i read correctly..well thanks all in advance for the responses.....
It depends on What you want. For a really bare bones rom, use precision. For a close to stock rom, use cognition. For a well themed and polished rom, use serendipity or ultimate. Cognition is the only captivate based one though.
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yeesh - sorry but most of these get locked in 10 posts or less as these become "My ROM is better than Your ROM" epeen arguments.
With that being said.. if a ROM is posted in the Dev forum and as long as it doesn't say Cyanogen Beta or Gingerbread alpha AOSP in it? It is pretty much safe to flash.
Most of these ROM's use either a Rogers, Captivate, or i9000 Source and don't deviate other than tweaks to apps/kernels/modems/lagfixes/themes.
If you want to be safe - I would go with Cognition as a first ROM flash then go from there. It is basically "stock".
Thanks guys for the quick posts....Just a little worried about doing it for the first time i have read, watched videos, this is why im asking before taking the plunge...
i really like Bay_wolfs tool seems great for newbies has anyone used it...i think i may go with cognition is there a better version than the 3.4 what i mean is the newest version seem best or and older one...
I also flashed my first ROM the other week after lots of reading and studying. I went with Andromeda 1.0 at and have since gone to 1.1. I didn't use the tool that you're wondering about, but have downloaded it for future use. So if you do use it, let me know how it goes for you. I went with the installation instrustions on Andromeda's website, and that worked flawlessly. Once you do decide on a ROM, I'm sure that you'll be extremely happy as the performance is way better than stock. Happy flashing and good luck!
Like the other posters said, it's all about what you want and then personal preference. Once you have flashed a few you will start realizing what you do and don't like about the ROMs and what you really want in them. (My first ROM I had no idea, I was like, lets just flash because it's cool and custom and I feel like it. Then I started noticing the differences between my first ROM and stock, realizing what they can actually do with it and what they cannot. From there I figured out what I was really looking for by going custom, and starting browsing the released ROMs to find it)
In short, your first ROM is just that, the first. It wont stay there long so it doesn't really matter which one you choose. Cognition, like stated above, is a good start because it's pretty close to stock. If you want to just straight into a very custom one and screw the baby steps, try something a little more feature rich. Eventually you will get into trying different ROMs with different kernels and test out over-clocking, etc...
I would recommend for your first that you don't go with an OC ROM though, save that for when you feel more comfortable with your ability to flash and tweak things.
I have never used the tool you are talking about because I feel more comfortable doing all the .zip stuff and seeing what is actually being done to my phone, not trusting something else to do it. The tools I do use are Odin3 and One Click Root/Unroot. If you want to try flashing without that tool but aren't sure of the exact steps or why they are necessary you can PM me and I'll help you out.
Welcome to the addiction of ROM flashing! (It's harder to shake then cigarettes once you start)
You guys are great here thanks for all the tips...tonight i will be flashing my first Rom hope all goes well if i have any questions i will ask...once again thanks...
joeygutz said:
You guys are great here thanks for all the tips...tonight i will be flashing my first Rom hope all goes well if i have any questions i will ask...once again thanks...
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Was bored, sent you a PM
Jeordy thanks for all info on the Pm ... that was fantastic i sent you a pm let me know what you think.....
I've tried several. So far, out of all of them, I like Andromeda 1.2 with the Speedmod kernel. It seems to be the most functional.
best rom in March
Hi everyone,
I flashed the Cognition ROM on captivate in Jan. I do not know at this moment which one is the best since gingerbread is also here now. Can someone please help.
ask_j said:
Hi everyone,
I flashed the Cognition ROM on captivate in Jan. I do not know at this moment which one is the best since gingerbread is also here now. Can someone please help.
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Do not flash any of the Gingerbread ROMs unless you really know what you are doing. They are still unstable and you risk bricking your phone. As for stable ROMs, there's a wide variety of them, and they're all based on Android 2.2, which is really fast. There is no best ROM, and it all depends on your personal preferences. Try visiting a few of the ROM threads to check them out, and hopefully that will help you decide which one to flash.
psai said:
Do not flash any of the Gingerbread ROMs unless you really know what you are doing. They are still unstable and you risk bricking your phone. As for stable ROMs, there's a wide variety of them, and they're all based on Android 2.2, which is really fast. There is no best ROM, and it all depends on your personal preferences. Try visiting a few of the ROM threads to check them out, and hopefully that will help you decide which one to flash.
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A bit of an overstatement, but I concur on there is no best, find what works best for you
CM7
Ok well not 10 or less this time but close.
There is no best rom just best for you. I could say Rom X is the best and does everything I need it to and when you run it, you dont like it or doesnt work well with your set up.
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[Q] how do i deodex my i9000 galaxy s?

Hi everybody!
so can anyone explain me how to deodex my entire rom? and it's VERY IMPORTANT.
i need a good and serious guide.
my firmware version is xwjvb, csc: neejv3 AND i have cf root
i have no idea how it's done and ive clearly never done it but it dont mean i cant,
Also, ive found this post "http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=765270" but it's a lil bit confusing, i have xultimate 2.2.3, and for example after step 4 on that guide, i dont find any guava.odex to remove, and it doesnt even work when i start the 4th choice.....
im also not sure if it will work on my phone/os versions.
so will anybody help me please, i really need to deodex to especially try the touchwiz 4 port!
"http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1050666"
DOn't waste your time in trying to do it yourself; it's already available on this forum. Check this one out!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=948790
wow, this is GREAT!!! exactly what i was looking for, thanks ALOT
***eventhough i no longer really need to manually deodex thanks to ramad, and to widget21 for letting me know about it, i'd still like to learn how to manually do it...... so can anybody please help?
once you are rooted the easiest and quickest way to get deodexed is installing a custom ROM -- there are several now that are fairly minimalist and you can cook a bare bones custom rom over at Doc's kitchen. Custom ROMs have the advantage of not only being deodexed but zipaligned and consistent with the file system. Why re-invent the wheel?
lgsshedden said:
once you are rooted the easiest and quickest way to get deodexed is installing a custom ROM -- there are several now that are fairly minimalist and you can cook a bare bones custom rom over at Doc's kitchen. Custom ROMs have the advantage of not only being deodexed but zipaligned and consistent with the file system. Why re-invent the wheel?
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im so NOT going to reinvent anything, im not even sure if i can anyways LOL, i was just curious cuz when they talk about it it's like something than can simply be done after flashing a stock rom like rooting..... i already goofed up and lost everything i had on the phone so flashing a new rom is not that big of deal anymore lol
know how you feel: my understanding comes from doing it the hard way and having to rescue the phone several times, so now I know better I try to help people not make the same mistakes I did while I was trying to sort it out myself.
Hope you flashed the kernel and rom you like that gets the most out of your phone and all is excellent today!

[i9000] Complete Android Noob.

Right, ive had a i9000 for 5 months or so, and ever since i got it, ive found it to be slow, at times laggy. And hate alot of the crap samsung put on it.Which ive not even used.
I reckon its about time i start to make the most of my phone, but dont really know where to start, with these custom roms and rooting and what not.
I basically want it to run smoothly and possibly add a tweaks/features to it which could possibly improve it. However i remember reading somewhere, that ill lose the camera features if i install a custom rom. :l (i could be talking from my arse here)
Also i read that android 4.0 is coming or has come out. Would i be able to upgrade my phone to it ? and should i ?? If not what is the best rom to flash which will make my phone faster and smoother.
Is there anything at all to make it significantly faster, or is it limited by hardware :/
Im currently on:
kernal version 2.6.29
firmware 2.1 -update1
Which i havnt messed with since i got the phone.
Thanks, and sorry for the daft questions.
Oh dear! did you wrote 2.1? Please read basic root steps and install custom rom. I recommend you to start with Cf-root
go here :- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=788108
As far as 4.0, please wait.
innovat0r said:
Oh dear! did you wrote 2.1? Please read basic root steps and install custom rom. I recommend you to start with Cf-root
go here :- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=788108
As far as 4.0, please wait.
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Lol Is 2.1 bad ? hahaha
Sorry for sounding dim, but what have you pointed me to ?? rooting ? installing a rom ? updating kernal ?
And what is the difference between these ? are all 3 needed to get the phone working as i want it to ?
Im totally new to everything andriod so can you please be as clear as possible.
Thank you for your reply.
And sorry again for all the questions.
skweezer said:
Lol Is 2.1 bad ? hahaha
Sorry for sounding dim, but what have you pointed me to ?? rooting ? installing a rom ? updating kernal ?
And what is the difference between these ? are all 3 needed to get the phone working as i want it to ?
Im totally new to everything andriod so can you please be as clear as possible.
Thank you for your reply.
And sorry again for all the questions.
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OK, here we go...
1. First of all you need to root your device to install a custom rom or kernel. So first root your device with the above thread (cf-root).
2. Choose any rom from so many roms available all over xda. Choose only from the topic which is under your device's category, not from other device's rom,lol.
To do this you need Odin(use search)
3. Once done you will have custom rom and also custom kernel if you wish.
After these you can go for lagfix, like changing from rfs to ext4.
Best of luck.
Thanks, so after ive rooted with cf-root. do i have to install a custom rom and custom kernel, both ?
And which is considered the best rom and kernel ?
thanks
regards
Hey Skweezer,
Recommend you start with these threads:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=939752
and:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=723596
They will tell you about how to connect your phone to your PC (Samsung USB drivers + adb), 3 button mode (how to avoid bricking your phone), backing up important/unrecoverable data (like your EFS block!), and what (in general) needs to be done to flash custom firmware.
After that, you should be able to pretty much recover from any error (like unplugging your phone mid flash). Now you can go ahead and root your phone and start exploring the wonderful word of custom roms! As for which one is the best, that's like asking "how long is a piece of string?" Some people prefer speed and cutting edge, others value battery life and stability, some aim for the middle of the road.
Personally I've tried tegrak kernel and was really impressed with the speed improvement! However, the limited app space finally turned me back to other kernels. I found the rest to be pretty much six in one, half dozen in the other (ie all about the same)... so pick one you like and just go for it... use it for a while and if it's not to your liking, flash again
Just a quick rundown on android for you... firmware 2.1 = Eclair, 2.2 = Frozen Yoghurt, 2.3 = Gingerbread, 3.0 = Honeycomb (tablet only version of android) and 4.0 = Ice Cream Sandwich (unify android for phone/tablet/tv again). There is a HUGE performance increase from going stock 2.1 to 2.3! so even if you just upgrade to Samsung's Gingerbread release (2.3.3 I believe?) you will notice better performance. Doing lagfix, kernel tweaks, etc is just icing on top of the cake. However, you'll find once you start tweaking, you won't go back to stock
Well, easiest way of starting is installing KIES and letting it update your phone. That's the official way and you won't have to bother with details like kernels, roms, bootloaders, etc and won't void your warranty (if that's the case).
You'll probably be left with with some 2.3.x version. Might as well make a backup from your stuff before upgrading, kies sucks in a general way, but may help you with that.
From that point on, if you still want to press further into customization goodness, there are PLENTY to chose from.
There are mainly 2 kinds of roms:
- Samsung based (someone picks up a sock samsung rom and modifies it with scripts, kernels, themes, apps, etc). These are most of the ones you'll find in the development section of this forum.
- not samsung based (like Cyanogen e MIUI). These are built from Google's sources directly and totally skip samsung. Therefore, samsung apps most likely won't work here. Everything else does.
Personally i'd recommend Cyanogen 7.1 stable as your next rom. It's an extremely optimized and wildly popular rom, with plenty of options that you won't find in any stock rom. They have their own forum i recommend you to look up if you're going their way.
Whatever you do, GET AWAY FROM THAT 2.1
Cheers for alll the replies guys. Im first going to just update via kies. To an official 2.3
If im not happy with that then ill try a custom rom and rooting.
If only it was as simple as jailbreaking and iphone. lool
Right, ust updated to latest version via kies. And instantly alot better, smoother. Has some of those things bulit into the system which i always though were missing.
Ill try it for a week, and see if theres anything i need, or think is missing. Then i might go custom. But right now im happy with it on the latest official version.
Thank you guys, i think you've made me sort of like android a bit more.

Not the average ROM question

My buddy has a cappy and the poor soul is still running 2.1. Now that he no longer has a warranty on it, he wants to root and upgrade it.
My question isn't what's the best ROM because I understand that is highly subjective, but rather, what is the most stable ROM?
ICS on the HTC Inspire only recently hit mile stone release status and, while fairly stable prior to this, still had it's bugs. This was fine for me, but I don't want to bring my friend into this awesome world with a ****ty experience right off the bat plagued with random reboots, bootloops, or non working functions.
So what ROMs are rock solid stable and are good for daily drivers?
And like I said, I'm not looking for "I like this ROM" and I'm not trying to ask what is the best ROM. Only asking about stability.
Thanks guys
Still subjective...but my 2 cents --
Stability wise I would suggest that he upgrade to the Gingerbread 2.3.5 i897ucKK4 release, get Root and then Debloat it completely. Let him run that for a while. He will be pleasantly surprised i think, especially compared to eclair 2.1 that he has been running. Afterwards if he wants to move on to a Developer's Rom, then there are plenty of KK4 based Roms to choose from. He will just have to do some diggin in the Dev forum.
The other Roms ICS, JB, AOSP, CM, MIUI and those similar are very good...but still subjective to each individual user as to what is stable and fit for a daily driver, etc.
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Sounds good. I appreciate the reply.
I do have one last question though. As far as doing this, it looks like I just need to get him updated via the Samsung website updates and then use SuperOneClick for root. Is this correct?
I ask because holy crap are there a lot of traps to accidentally fall in to...
He could do the mini kies route to froyo then gb Or he/u could use the kk4 one click odin or heimdall with bootloaders and then get Root through the [Utility] KK4 Easy Root by Red_81 --- both of these u can find in my signature link below.
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The Heimdall followed by Easy Root seems the best way to go then (less steps). Thanks so much. I appreciate it.
Now to find that page with the drivers again.... lol (no need to post the link, I'll find it haha)
Here ya go, it was close by... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=33577757
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That's not the page I was looking at before. lol
I was looking here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858765 That and, of course, installing the SDK on his computer.
But after reading the Heimdall page and that post you pointed me to, it seems I was looking in the wrong direction. I know the SDK won't hurt anything though, so that is still getting put on there, if for no other reason than ADB. (I'm a fan of ADB. It's gotten me out of more than a few binds before.)
4-2ndtwin said:
Still subjective...but my 2 cents --
Stability wise I would suggest that he upgrade to the Gingerbread 2.3.5 i897ucKK4 release, get Root and then Debloat it completely. Let him run that for a while. He will be pleasantly surprised i think, especially compared to eclair 2.1 that he has been running. Afterwards if he wants to move on to a Developer's Rom, then there are plenty of KK4 based Roms to choose from. He will just have to do some diggin in the Dev forum.
The other Roms ICS, JB, AOSP, CM, MIUI and those similar are very good...but still subjective to each individual user as to what is stable and fit for a daily driver, etc.
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Completely agree with this. Your buddy will need to experience and learn a lot of stuff through this transition, therefor, making the jump to JB from Eclair could make a mess.
Although, once he reaches that point, I have to say that I've been very pleased with AOKP (now on milestone). I was quite hesitant to use it as my daily ROM cause I was so used to stability over tweaks with ROMs made by The Family and The Collective. I've been on it since JB was ported to our cappy and I'm seriously loving it! Can't imagine flashing anything else as my daily ROM unless it's as stable and that coming from a flash addict!
Anyway, hope the transition goes well!
Me too. We were gonna do it yesterday, but after the mayhem of my truck (took 4 hours to rotate TWO tires....), we decided that luck was not with us and decided against it lol. Hopefully I can get him to man up about it today.
Thanks for the help guys! Now to produce another convert... muahahahaha!
I would simply use the stable version of CM10.
eksasol said:
I would simply use the stable version of CM10.
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I believe CM10 is on nightly builds atm, therefor, bugs are meant to happen. Might not be the best idea for a first step into JB
BWolf56 said:
I believe CM10 is on nightly builds atm, therefor, bugs are meant to happen. Might not be the best idea for a first step into JB
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http://get.cm/?device=captivatemtd&type=stable
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http://get.cm/?device=captivatemtd&type=stable
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Well then, I stand corrected.

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