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User apps + data = FC??

After flashing some new roms lately, I've been unable to restore my user apps with data, or else the apps will force close (weirdly, some apps work okay with a data restore, but the vast majority will fc). Also, when trying to restore back to my old rom (AOKP) via Nandroid, I get an error saying cannot mount /data, stopping the process. I tried deleting all my backups, making new ones, flashing stock, and yes I follow the OP exactly. I wanted to see if anyone has ever had this issue either on this ROM or another one. Any help appreciated, thanks.

To restore a Nandroid, you actually have to flash the rom first, then after it fully boots up restore your Nandroid. As for Apps and data, try restoring the apps first, rebooting, then restoring the data.

Referring to your app restore suggestion. That doesn't work. I've tried it
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Then i don't what else to suggest. You tried downloading apps fresh, then restoring your backed up data?

Common issue for me. Just wipe data first and it should work. No need to flash the ROM
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korockinout13 said:
Common issue for me. Just wipe data first and it should work. No need to flash the ROM
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Are you saying restore app + data. Then wipe data. Then restore data again?
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mrhaley30705 said:
Then i don't what else to suggest. You tried downloading apps fresh, then restoring your backed up data?
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Yep. Doesn't work
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Use TiBu instead of Nandroid. Only had issue with porting my WiFi settings from GB to ICS.
But in general restoring apps with settings and data is a pain. That prevents me from becoming flash junkie.

I understand your concern with using nandroid. That was just a side statement. The issue is restoring USER apps with data. Why is this occurring now when it has never occurred before
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mikel.canovas said:
After flashing some new roms lately, I've been unable to restore my user apps with data, or else the apps will force close (weirdly, some apps work okay with a data restore, but the vast majority will fc).
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I just want to add that this exact same thing has happened to me on a variety of ICS ROMS (including AOKP M5) and I too follow the installation instructions including wiping and formatting.
Very annoying.

mikel.canovas said:
Are you saying restore app + data. Then wipe data. Then restore data again?
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Sorry, sorry. I was specifically referring to the nandroid backup issue. IF while restoring, you can't get past "Cannot mount /data!", THEN wipe data, and continue restoring data by doing advanced restore from there (so you don't have to restore /boot and /system again...)

korockinout13 said:
Sorry, sorry. I was specifically referring to the nandroid backup issue. IF while restoring, you can't get past "Cannot mount /data!", THEN wipe data, and continue restoring data by doing advanced restore from there (so you don't have to restore /boot and /system again...)
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Ah okay. Thanks for the tip.
So no one has any idea what's the cause of this. Everyone who has come across this issue, including myself, seem to have no clue how to fix it. There's basically an exact same q&a thread on vibrant forums with the same issue and there's like 5 people there who cannot figure out why
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What happens if you dl from market without restoring data? Still get fc's?

without restoring data? No FC. After restoring data, FC.

Hey Mikel I just flashed Docs Master v11 which just came out. For the first time in a long time I did not have the app f/c problem at all. Everything ran fine right from TIBU restore.
I flashed this ROM exactly the same way as I've flashed the last few AOKP roms. Hmmmm..
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All my apps are FC'ing

Hey, I was using Beast 7/1/13 and it worked great,
used pimp my rom, voodoo sound, semaphore manager, rom toolbox lite
after i installed the new beast rom my apps suddenly force closes... everyone one of them.
the first error i see is,
Unfortunately, the process android.process.acore has stopped.
I have no idea what to do!!!
wiped/formated everything and resroted the rom with the nandroid backup from before the update but everything still keeping to force close and that message is running everytime
EDIT:
googled my issue and someone said the fix is to wipe the contacts storage, i did and it worked... so if there is an admin here, you can close this thread!

That is a common failure when switching Roms. Sometimes you can destroy your filesystem with restoring the app data too. So flash again and this time restore apps without the appdata.
Before you reflash you can try to delete those app data. Everytime when i got this it has helped. I never busted my whole filesystem. Let me know if this works for you too.

Samuel Sung said:
That is a common failure when switching Roms. Sometimes you can destroy your filesystem with restoring the app data too. So flash again and this time restore apps without the appdata.
Before you reflash you can try to delete those app data. Everytime when i got this it has helped. I never busted my whole filesystem. Let me know if this works for you too.
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First of all thanks.
How can i delete the app data before re-flashing/ re-flash without the app data?
And by the way, it's weird... I thought that when i upgrade from 2 builds of the same rom it should work fine... :S
I think i understood what your saying... your talking about clean flashing and then using titanium backup to get my apps back?

you're welcome.
i don't know the beast rom. I use Elites 4.2.1 Beta.. (btw did you tried elites rom? Do you know how it is compared to Beast?)
but my way to get the app info is long pressing the app on the app drawer and when it gets to the homescreen i move it to the app-info panel. That'S the easiest and fastest way.
Normal way would be settings --> apps ---> tap on the app you want
once there you hit "delete data" Sometimes a reboot is needed. Or try it 2 times. Or if the first didn't work do it again and then reboot.
This shouldn't happen when you just update your beast rom. But sometimes it does on the Elite roms too. Not often but it happened. The biggest screw up was when i changed from ELite to Cyanogen mod.
right i talk about clean flashing and Titanium Backup you just flashed the update rom without doing 3 wipes right?
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if yes the best way would be to do a clean flash again. And than if you got problems with your backed up apps try what i have said. Are u using Titanium?
cheers

Samuel Sung said:
you're welcome.
i don't know the beast rom. I use Elites 4.2.1 Beta.. (btw did you tried elites rom? Do you know how it is compared to Beast?)
but my way to get the app info is long pressing the app on the app drawer and when it gets to the homescreen i move it to the app-info panel. That'S the easiest and fastest way.
Normal way would be settings --> apps ---> tap on the app you want
once there you hit "delete data" Sometimes a reboot is needed. Or try it 2 times. Or if the first didn't work do it again and then reboot.
This shouldn't happen when you just update your beast rom. But sometimes it does on the Elite roms too. Not often but it happened. The biggest screw up was when i changed from ELite to Cyanogen mod.
right i talk about clean flashing and Titanium Backup you just flashed the update rom without doing 3 wipes right?
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if yes the best way would be to do a clean flash again. And than if you got problems with your backed up apps try what i have said. Are u using Titanium?
cheers
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Don't know elite roms... you got i9000 right?
I was just upgrading builds so i didn't do a clean install... now i'm kinda mad about myself for not backing up my titanium as often as my titanium backup as often as i backup my nandroid... i think i'm gonna backup all info, do a clean install and restore everything without the data... hope it'll go out well... learning my lesson i guess
Edit: another thing that comes into mind is restoring my 27/12 titanium backup backup (XD) and then working my way up from there..
Edit 2: My whatsapp says that my internal storage is too low while i got 800mb free... :S and now after clearing the data in titanium backup and re-working it it fc's again.
Edit 3 and last: I ended up doing a clean install and learning that i should backup my titanium backup more often since i now have to restore from 27/12

[Q] Can't install apps remotely (from Play Store site) after CWM restore?

I am currently running CM7 (2013-01-01 nightly) on my Galaxy Ace. When I want to try a new rom I go through the usual steps: make a CWM backup, wipe, flash the new rom, play with it for a while, and then restore my backup to go back to CM7.
Everything works fine, except for one major issue: I can't install apps remotely from the Play Store site after restoring the backup. I click on Install, it says the app will be downloaded to my device shortly, but nothing happens. Wiping and flashing CM7 again fixes it, but that means losing my backups. Is this a known issue? Is there something else I should do after restoring a backup for the Play Store to work correctly again? Thanks!

Can you still login to your GMail account?
Maybe you just have to reconfigure your Google account (and wipe some caches)

Try Menu/Settings/Applications/Manage Applications/All Apps/find the market app and open it, then force stop the app, then clear catch, clear data, then uninstall updates. Now back out and reopen the market app and then follow the sign in instructions.
Hope this helps.
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@ OP : Forget cwm backup. Backup all your data with titanium backup & after a fresh flash, use the " restore data only " option in the titanium backup app.
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Venomous Viper 119 said:
@ OP : Forget cwm backup. Backup all your data with titanium backup & after a fresh flash, use the " restore data only " option in the titanium backup app.
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I'll try that, thanks! If you've restored a Titanium backup before, it'd be awesome if you could check that installing apps from the Play Store site works after the restore. I'm a little weary of losing my CM7 setup again only to fix this issue. Thanks again!

zamuz27 said:
I'll try that, thanks! If you've restored a Titanium backup before, it'd be awesome if you could check that installing apps from the Play Store site works after the restore. I'm a little weary of losing my CM7 setup again only to fix this issue. Thanks again!
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Really speaking, I never use titanium backup as the only things that matter to me on my phone are the contacts & the info I provided earlier was just from a hint of what I had come across before. I can't try it out for you coz I'm currently unrooted. But definitely the data backup should work fine without any issues at all. Just go ahead & try out
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Is the Play store installed on your phone? If it isn't you won't be able to dl remotely from the store. If it isn't you will have to find a version of gapps to work with your rom.

[Q] Stupid Question

I've rooted my phone and I want to get the new MaximusHD ROM (4.3, HTC Sense, Rooted)
How can I replace my ROM while preserving my data (WhatsApp messages, pictures, etc)?
I am sorry but I am coming from the world of Apple and iTunes did everything for me. Android is a totally new beast!

Use titanium Backup from playstore
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Philipp_94 said:
Use titanium Backup from playstore
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Thanks
I downloaded the software.
What do I do? There are so many options. I don't need to backup the apk because I can redownload it from the Play Store.
All i care about is my user data.
Can I flash my ROM without losing data?

wirelessrevolution said:
Thanks
I downloaded the software.
What do I do? There are so many options. I don't need to backup the apk because I can redownload it from the Play Store.
All i care about is my user data.
Can I flash my ROM without losing data?
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What do you mean by user data?
Pics music videos etc, basically anything in your SD card will be saved.
I think.
App data, you need to backup the whole app. That's how Ti backup works. You can't download the app form play store and apply your user data to it.
EDIT: just make a nandroid. Then backup whatever you need. If the restore fails, then you have something to fall back on.
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sauprankul said:
What do you mean by user data?
Pics music videos etc, basically anything in your SD card will be saved.
I think.
App data, you need to backup the whole app. That's how Ti backup works. You can't download the app form play store and apply your user data to it.
EDIT: just make a nandroid. Then backup whatever you need. If the restore fails, then you have something to fall back on.
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Thanks but I have no idea what a nandroid is or how to do it.

wirelessrevolution said:
Thanks but I have no idea what a nandroid is or how to do it.
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Go to TWRP (personal favorite) or CWM.
Then, back up EVERYTHING.
Except media. But I'm not sure that's actually an option lol.
Oh yeah no need to back up the cache or the recovery either.
I believe CWM doesn't let you choose, you just hit back up and it backs up what it needs to.
Note: you can not selectively restore from a nandroid very easily. It is meant to be sort of a time machine, so if something screws up, you just restore your phone back to how it was.
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Dirty vs Clean install
sauprankul said:
Go to TWRP (personal favorite) or CWM.
Then, back up EVERYTHING.
Except media. But I'm not sure that's actually an option lol.
Oh yeah no need to back up the cache or the recovery either.
I believe CWM doesn't let you choose, you just hit back up and it backs up what it needs to.
Note: you can not selectively restore from a nandroid very easily. It is meant to be sort of a time machine, so if something screws up, you just restore your phone back to how it was.
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Yeah, TWRP lets you back up all your info. You can pick and choose and it lets you back up the current rom, so if you have issues you can go back to it. Copy that folder to a computer, because what you want to do is a dirty flash and might run into problems. It's best to flash by wiping clean and then replacing or you run into problems with the rom with some of the data.
Just my opinion.

My advice would be to read a lot more about how nandroid backups work and about how backup apps like Titanium Backup work as well before trying anything.
That being said the above advice about doing a nandroid from recovery is a must, especially if you're new to the android world and aren't sure what you're doing. The nandroid is your fail-safe in case anything goes wrong. It will allow you to restore your phone back to exactly how it was when you did the backup.
As far as bringing the app data that you want into your newly flashed rom, this is what I do:
1. Have a rooted device
2. Download Titanium Backup (I bought the pro version, I think you need it to do batch backup/restore)
3. Batch backup all user apps (I also backup my call log and sms/mms messages)
4. Reboot device to recovery and perform a nandroid backup
5. Flash new rom
6. Wipe data/Factory reset
7. Reboot into new rom
8. After doing all the initial device setup (google account, etc.) install Titanium Backup and restore all missing apps NOTE: RESTORE ONLY THE APPS NOT THE DATA!
9. Now this is the part that I do that technically isn't recommended because restoring data can cause issues but it's the only way I've found to restore app data that otherwise can't be restored. Do a batch "restore all apps and data" but select "data only" and "deselect all" and go through and manually select only the apps you really need to restore the data (this can also be done manually through Titanium but I still use the batch function). Also I restore the call log and sms/mms at this step.
Hopefully this helps. Best advice I can give you though is before you do anything, make sure you understand all of the steps completely. I've lost everything too many times because I didn't know what I was doing.

bluetint said:
As far as bringing the app data that you want into your newly flashed rom, this is what I do:
6. Wipe data/Factory reset
8. After doing all the initial device setup (google account, etc.) install Titanium Backup and restore all missing apps NOTE: RESTORE ONLY THE APPS NOT THE DATA!
9. Now this is the part that I do that technically isn't recommended because restoring data can cause issues but it's the only way I've found to restore app data that otherwise can't be restored. Do a batch "restore all apps and data" but select "data only" and "deselect all" and go through and manually select only the apps you really need to restore the data (this can also be done manually through Titanium but I still use the batch function). Also I restore the call log and sms/mms at this step.
Hopefully this helps. Best advice I can give you though is before you do anything, make sure you understand all of the steps completely. I've lost everything too many times because I didn't know what I was doing.
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Question:
Why can't he restore apps and data together? I've anyways done that, and it's seemed to have worked for me. Maybe I just didn't notice any lost data?
Also. Restoring with the free version is a pita because you have to give it permission for every app individually.
Just saying.
And you do not need to wipe your media, but I recommend that you back it up.
Also: WOAH WOAH WOAH. Did you just tell the OP to flash a ROM, THEN wipe?
I'm pretty darn sure you should not do that.
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sauprankul said:
Question:
Why can't he restore apps and data together? I've anyways done that, and it's seemed to have worked for me. Maybe I just didn't notice any lost data?
Also. Restoring with the free version is a pita because you have to give it permission for every app individually.
Just saying.
And you do not need to wipe your media, but I recommend that you back it up.
Also: WOAH WOAH WOAH. Did you just tell the OP to flash a ROM, THEN wipe?
I'm pretty darn sure you should not do that.
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The reason I say not to restore data for every app is that not every app needs it's data restored to get everything back (i.e. Google Hangouts, Facebook, Twitter, etc.) and I've always been warned that restoring data can cause issues. So my reasoning is the less I restore the better.
And I know using the free version of Titanium Backup is a PITA, that is why I said I use the paid version.
I never said to wipe media (I assume you mean the virtual sdcard) I said to wipe data/factory reset (the name of the option in CWM)
And there is nothing wrong with wiping after a flash. The wipe gets rid of user apps/data, anything installed with the rom is fine. If I'm mistaken, I apologize. However, I have never had an issue wiping after a flash.
If the OP doesn't want to follow my advice that's fine, I was simply describing what I've been doing on various devices for the last couple of years.

Calendar app uninstalls itself

My calendar app was somehow deleted and I'm having trouble restoring it. I have it backed up with titanium and I've tried several times to restore it. It works for awhile but then it force closes on me and when I try to reboot it uninstalls itself. I've tried to make it an "update.zip" and that doesn't work. I've "s-off'd" the phone book cause I read that if it isn't in s-off mode installing system apps would be difficult. So I'm at a loss right now...I'd rather not reflash everything so if there's a way to restore the stock HTC calendar without flashing could someone please let me know? Thanks in advance.
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I know you said you don't want to reflash anything, but you could try to reflash the ROM without erasing data first. This would fix any missing files from /system and still keep your data and apps intact. If that works, great. If not, then you could try other drastic measures like erasing data, etc.