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Want to root, have some questions

Since everything I need to know is scattered across various threads and there is no specific information regarding my question AFAIK so I decided to post a new thread. Forgive a newb for being worried.
I've decided to root my N1 and am running the EPF24B European build. I just had some questions and concerns:
1. What ROM do you think is best? I think the majority of people like Cyanogen.
2. If I root my phone now and flash on Cyanogen, when Cyanogen releases a Froyo ROM how will I update? Does that happen through a dedicated app? OTA?
3. How do I keep all my current programs and settings? I've heard of Nandroid but have no idea what it does. I presume it has something to do with the NAND memory?
4. btw how stable is a rooted phone?
5. I've seen a number of guides here, but don't know whether or not they are the latest versions. Can anyone point me to a proper guide? Or are they all the same?
Thanks if anyone can answer this.
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hackm0d said:
Since everything I need to know is scattered across various threads and there is no specific information regarding my question AFAIK so I decided to post a new thread. Forgive a newb for being worried.
I've decided to root my N1 and am running the EPF24B European build. I just had some questions and concerns:
1. What ROM do you think is best? I think the majority of people like Cyanogen.
2. If I root my phone now and flash on Cyanogen, when Cyanogen releases a Froyo ROM how will I update? Does that happen through a dedicated app? OTA?
3. How do I keep all my current programs and settings? I've heard of Nandroid but have no idea what it does. I presume it has something to do with the NAND memory?
4. btw how stable is a rooted phone?
5. I've seen a number of guides here, but don't know whether or not they are the latest versions. Can anyone point me to a proper guide? Or are they all the same?
Thanks if anyone can answer this.
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you might get flamed for this or get this thread closed but i will try to help u.
1)while cyanogen is the best rom in my opinion, froyo is the ****. no matter what. and when cyanogen finally puts his touches on it, it will be even better.
3)no you cant keep them. u would have to be ROOTED first and then you can use titanium backup to make a backup or all your settings and freeze apps. til then, nope u have to completely wipe and start over again. i know when i switch from rom to rom, google automatically downloads the apps that i have had installed before i switch roms if that helps you any.
4)rooted phones are VERY stable and even faster than stock. more memory, runs smoother. the only one that might not run as smooth is the Desire Rom because of sense ui but i love sense ui and have it on my G1 but yes rooted phones are stable.
5)i have followed the instructions of this guide that was for macs tho. u have to be a bit specific if your on mac or pc

I'm using a PC.
And thanks for your input.
btw you didn't answer question 2. If I update to CM now, will I be able to update OTA when a Froyo version comes out?

[Q] Random ICS Queries

Hello! My apologies if these questions have already been covered, but I'm having a hard time figuring things out:
1) Anyone have opinions on what's the best ICS Rom that supports the S-pen fully? (Or if there even are any that support it?) I'm an artist that does sketching on the Note and want to make sure the pen works properly.
2) Will there be any problems in updating to the full Note ICS rom when it's released if you're on one of the current builds?
3) I'm a medium-level rom flasher that's a little nervous about bricking my phone when doing one of the ICS installs. I probably am asking a stupid question (well, I am ), but in people's opinions, how safe is it to install? Should I wait for a full build? I'm getting annoyed by my poor battery life in Gingerbread that for the life of me I cannot figure out. ><
Thanks!!

Featherbeard said:
Hello! My apologies if these questions have already been covered, but I'm having a hard time figuring things out:
1) Anyone have opinions on what's the best ICS Rom that supports the S-pen fully? (Or if there even are any that support it?) I'm an artist that does sketching on the Note and want to make sure the pen works properly.
2) Will there be any problems in updating to the full Note ICS rom when it's released if you're on one of the current builds?
3) I'm a medium-level rom flasher that's a little nervous about bricking my phone when doing one of the ICS installs. I probably am asking a stupid question (well, I am ), but in people's opinions, how safe is it to install? Should I wait for a full build? I'm getting annoyed by my poor battery life in Gingerbread that for the life of me I cannot figure out. ><
Thanks!!
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1) Midnote 3
2) No
3) Absolutly safe, you even don't need computer to flash Midnote 3

Hmmm... The directions of installing Midnote seem a little intimidating! I'm going to have to read them a few times to make sure I know what's going on.

Featherbeard said:
Hmmm... The directions of installing Midnote seem a little intimidating! I'm going to have to read them a few times to make sure I know what's going on.
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It just seems difficult. It's not so hard. But don't flash 3.1 over 3.0, because when I did that I got some FC's. So I back to 3.0... At 3.0 is everything perfect, no problems and bugs at all.

anonymous572 said:
It just seems difficult. It's not so hard. But don't flash 3.1 over 3.0, because when I did that I got some FC's. So I back to 3.0... At 3.0 is everything perfect, no problems and bugs at all.
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It's still making me nervous. 14 steps is pretty darn big!

I have been using AlBa ZCLP5 Full ICS Repack For a couple of days and haven't had any problems at all. Stock Touchwiz launcher with full S-Pen functionality and it's easy to flash.
link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1579301
Edit: I see now that it is "Closed For Investigation" so might be better to wait and see what that is about.

anonymous572 said:
It just seems difficult. It's not so hard. But don't flash 3.1 over 3.0, because when I did that I got some FC's. So I back to 3.0... At 3.0 is everything perfect, no problems and bugs at all.
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Thanks for your help! I got it installed and it's super fast! The only problem is I'm getting Google Play FC's

Featherbeard said:
Thanks for your help! I got it installed and it's super fast! The only problem is I'm getting Google Play FC's
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Try clearing the cache and data of google play store.

Tried that but unfortunately it didn't work. I tried to follow the instructions of someone in the main Midnote thread, but now the store's gone from my app list and no matter how many times I flash the gapps 7.1 zip, it won't come back.

Featherbeard said:
Tried that but unfortunately it didn't work. I tried to follow the instructions of someone in the main Midnote thread, but now the store's gone from my app list and no matter how many times I flash the gapps 7.1 zip, it won't come back.
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Try downloading the latest google play apk from here - http://www.mediafire.com/?l1a74m4bxyt65aq
put it in you sd card and by root browser try putting it in system/app or push it as a system app using Titanium Backup.

Don't know about market, because I don't use it. And other google\samsung apps too.

just got the galaxy note now what ?

i have come from a htc hd2 so i like to change roms alot.
what should i do with the galaxy note ?
i would like ICS so what are the steps ?
any help please

Have a good search round this forum and make sure you understand clearly how everything works before you decide to start flashing, I came from the HTC Desire and the Galaxy Note is a whole different ball game. Enjoy you new Galaxy Note

is the official ics update any good ?
what does rooting do ?

I personally didn't like the official ICS update, that is when I decided to flash a custom ROM.
Rooting gives you more control over your phone, lets you install apps like "Titanium Backup" that require root permissions to run.

i have the la6 kernel
im lost

watercooled223 said:
is the official ics update any good ?
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Apparently this really depends on your location. For example the one Samsung released here (France, 4 months after being announced, too) was so broken it bricked a number of terminals and was subsequently withdrawn. With no word of when a fix will come.
Apparently other areas had working systems. One would think it would just be a matter of strings to translate and a few apps to package, so it's all very puzzling to someone who isn't familiar with Android (I've been intimately familiar with Linux for more than 20 years, and Unix before that, but I still don't get it).
And then, as you'll see by browsing the forums, many people seem to have issues with ICS. Issues that (IMO) just don't seem to make much sense in a system that would have been tested for a couple days by an intern somewhere...
OTOH, many people apparently have no issues.
So as with everything on the network, I suppose YMMV, take it with a grain of salt, yada yada... void where applicable.
See if anything is reported about your proposed (if any) update. Then decide if it's worth it (maybe it is).
watercooled223 said:
what does rooting do ?
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Same as on any other terminal ? Lets you access functions that are typically "off limits". Among the most useful ones, you can now read/write anywhere. Which means you can allow/deny anything for any application. And notably block all those silly annoying bundled apps so they won't want to update any more, or, if you like, even start (a process known as freezing).

Have a look at the videos in my signature once..
For Rom official one is good but custom ones are great..
All roms are unique in their own way...the ones that stand out as totally awesome are Paranoid Android and TMT Hybrid IMUI...
Its your choice...

thanks guys
does the la6 kernel complicate things ?

watercooled223 said:
thanks guys
does the la6 kernel complicate things ?
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Yes.... Speedmod is adviced for stock ics...

its still on gingerbread at the moment

ok im now rooted and installed cwm and done a backup of the stock rom.
now i want to install the paranoid android ics rom.
im coming from the stock gingerbread GB rom
do i need to wipe first ?

all done
now rooted and running paranoid android
thanks guys for the links and the help

now that i have paranoidandroid installed am i able to try any other custom roms ?

watercooled223 said:
now that i have paranoidandroid installed am i able to try any other custom roms ?
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yes, just be careful, follow instruction to the dot, and don't take any shortcuts,
also, it's good to have tb backup, as additional security precaution

p107r0 said:
yes, just be careful, follow instruction to the dot, and don't take any shortcuts,
also, it's good to have tb backup, as additional security precaution
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does this mean that i have one of the safe kernels installed ?
sorry whats tb backup ?
i have made a backup of the original rom if thats what you mean ?

watercooled223 said:
does this mean that i have one of the safe kernels installed ?
sorry whats tb backup ?
i have made a backup of the original rom if thats what you mean ?
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1. probably, but make sure in paranoid thread,
2. I assume you have done cwm backup, which will be rather useless when switching ROMs, having tb (i.e.Titanium Backup) backup you can generally restore your apps and data between roms (except for the system ones)
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yes all backed up with cwm and tb.

watercooled223 said:
its still on gingerbread at the moment
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And that was the right thing to have for the time being, too bad you hurried on to ICS. In my opinion, when you have a new phone, you have to know it, enjoy it, love it ( ? ), installed a couple of hundred apps, and then, after being more than familiar whith it, it would be time to upgrade it, tweak it, etc., so the change could be apreciatte. It's like eating always the desert at first, withouth eating the soup and the salad.
As for rooting, if you had to ask, you probably did't need to root, but since that's already done, I'll give you a hint. There is one VERY interesting thing about rooting which anyone would find usefull. The posibility of using a Firewall. In this way, you could not only block those annoying ads (and save a little battery since the ads have to download from Internet). You can also protect your device from troyan / spy applications, which are increasingly expanding in android. For example, a simple sound board app, or a screen saver, ¿why should it use your internet connection? ¿To what ends?
Enjoy the Note, it's a hell of a phone.

[Q] How to: from stock froyo 2.2.1 to CM10.

Hello fellow earthlings!
My friend has a SGS, and it is still running the stock froyo 2.2.1. It is not rooted nor has any history of hacking. She asked me to update her phone to CM10. Can anybody tell me where to start and what to do? Any links? Or are CM10 roms stable already?
I would be grateful for anyone willing to help me.

Are you sure that's a good idea? Despite what everyone might tell you CM10 isn't exactly stable yet. If you update it for her she might have to rely on you to fix her problems all the time since she didn't learn how to update it herself.
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snapper.fishes said:
...If you update it for her she might have to rely on you ....
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Well, this might be a reason to do the upgrade
My experience:
I had a 2.3.6 stock GB. It was very good but sometimes I noticed problems (lagging, app force closes, etc.). Not much, but I got annoyed and secondly I wanted to know what is all the hype around the CM. So I flashed CM9. Very nice, smooth, same battery life, but missing some of the applications, TouchWiz and got some errors as well (see this). I do not have much time (and experience either) to flash every day and I want a stable system, so I will not go for CM10 for some time.
Was it a good idea after all? Yes and no. I had to reinstall everything (CM9 uses different file system, some apps do not remember its settings, etc.), had to look for a new launcher (a word I did not know existed ) had to sort out birth illnesses. On the other hand I received a new system, a new experience and I know that if I would perform a system change it will be an upgrade to CM10, not a downgrade. Possibly I might do even a sidegrade - switching to a different developer. But obviously I will stick with the most known brands (AOKP, MIUI).
Hope I helped you.

peacekeeper05 said:
Hello fellow earthlings!
My friend has a SGS, and it is still running the stock froyo 2.2.1. It is not rooted nor has any history of hacking. She asked me to update her phone to CM10. Can anybody tell me where to start and what to do? Any links? Or are CM10 roms stable already?
I would be grateful for anyone willing to help me.
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you should and must update it to the latest firmware for your phone , which is gingerbread 2.3.6
so you have two options....
1) use KIES and let it do the job for you
2) use Odin3 and flash the latest Gingerbread ROM for your region from here or here
you must have this for any upgrade...so do this first and and see, how it suits you or her

[Q] StockROM?

Hello!
Im new to android story so please excuse my stupid questions.
I would like to install the barest version of gingerbread on my phone. Where to find it? Im not clear if stock mod is what i have on my phone now (original) or is it android without the preinstalled apps that i cant uninstall? I Would like the version without any preinstalled apps.
And since im meddling with my phone, what do you think is the best kernel to use with bare gingerbread?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2198341
Gingerbread is Android 2.3. The S Advance has Android 4.1.2 available for it (AKA Jellybean). Follow the above guide to upgrade to Jellybean, and if you want you can also install a custom kernel or ROM.

Stock ROM Gingerbread 2.3.6
Syvaan said:
Hello!
Im new to android story so please excuse my stupid questions.
I would like to install the barest version of gingerbread on my phone. Where to find it? Im not clear if stock mod is what i have on my phone now (original) or is it android without the preinstalled apps that i cant uninstall? I Would like the version without any preinstalled apps.
And since im meddling with my phone, what do you think is the best kernel to use with bare gingerbread?
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Stock Rom is a System Rom which comes preinstalled in your particular android device when you buy it. Stock Rom is preinstalled by the manufacturer of that particular device such as Samsung, Nokia, Sony etc.
If you have Gingerbread 2.3.6 just do a factory reset and from Settings > Application Manager > force stop unwanted apps.
What you want is unclear in your post. What I could realize from your writing that you want a fresh Gingerbread to flash your device.
You can download official Gingerbread 2.3.6 from here. Choose OS version 2.3.6
where do u live? what is the official release for your device there?

Nishad1982 said:
Stock Rom is a System Rom which comes preinstalled in your particular android device when you buy it. Stock Rom is preinstalled by the manufacturer of that particular device such as Samsung, Nokia, Sony etc.
If you have Gingerbread 2.3.6 just do a factory reset and from Settings > Application Manager > force stop unwanted apps.
What you want is unclear in your post. What I could realize from your writing that you want a fresh Gingerbread to flash your device.
You can download official Gingerbread 2.3.6 from ... Choose OS version 2.3.6
where do u live? what is the official release for your device there?
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Thank you for your replies people.
What I want is to install fresh gingerbread, but some kind of bare version, non samsungs version like i have now. Without preinstalled apps that i cant uninstall. Is that even possible?
What im asking is how is such bare version called and where to find it? and since im doing that i thought i could upgrade kernel but i m new to whole meddling with android thing so i thought i could ask which kernel is good to use with this version of gingerbread?
I live in croatia. There is no croatian version on the page above, besides, those are all samsung versions, like the original on my phone, right?

By bare version, I'm guessing you mean like stock android version like the nexus have. Unfortunately for this device, we don't have the stock android firmware. For GB, even the custom roms you found here is based on stock samsung firmware. So, there will be some samsung apps preinstalled in the custom rom.
If you upgrade to Jellybean 4.1.2, you can try the latest CM 10.1 nightlies (although it is not recommended for newbies, as it is still test builds but has gotten to a pretty stable version). Cyanogen (CM) roms are built from source and it is very similar to stock android interface.

arffrhn said:
By bare version, I'm guessing you mean like stock android version like the nexus have. Unfortunately for this device, we don't have the stock android firmware. For GB, even the custom roms you found here is based on stock samsung firmware. So, there will be some samsung apps preinstalled in the custom rom.
If you upgrade to Jellybean 4.1.2, you can try the latest CM 10.1 nightlies (although it is not recommended for newbies, as it is still test builds but has gotten to a pretty stable version). Cyanogen (CM) roms are built from source and it is very similar to stock android interface.
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Thanks. Thats what i wanted to know.
I ended up on this forum becouse i wanted to install new cyanogen, but after some reading here it seems that GB is still better option in terms of battery and performance. So i concluded that best bet would be gingerbread without the bloatware. Maybe ill try some GB based rom.
Anyway, i hope this information will be useful to someone else also. Or delete the thread if thats the practice on this forum.
One last question. Im pretty sure i know the answer but better be safe. If I root my phone, i will be able to unistall all the apps that were preinstalled that i cant uninstall now?

Syvaan said:
Thanks. Thats what i wanted to know.
I ended up on this forum becouse i wanted to install new cyanogen, but after some reading here it seems that GB is still better option in terms of battery and performance. So i concluded that best bet would be gingerbread without the bloatware. Maybe ill try some GB based rom.
Anyway, i hope this information will be useful to someone else also. Or delete the thread if thats the practice on this forum.
One last question. Im pretty sure i know the answer but better be safe. If I root my phone, i will be able to unistall all the apps that were preinstalled that i cant uninstall now?
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Yes, you can. You're granted with superuser access by rooting your phone. So you will be able to remove any app and play with your device anyway you want. :good:

Rooting Gingerbread is a bit tricky for newbies. Follow the guide in the following link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1985199
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