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Would anyone know why the NC won't browse web over wi-fi via Sprint 4G? [Edit to add: This appears to be an Evo-specific issue.] NC over 3G works fine with both Wireless Tether and the Sprint Hotspot feature on the Evo. You would think wi-fi is wi-fi and it wouldn't make any difference whether it was 3G or 4G, but it does--the 4G radio won't let the NC browse web.
It's not just my setup, because I'm aware of at least one other report of this issue--in another forum.
I have tried Nooky Froyo and stock 1.01 and 1.1 NC's I have also eliminated my local Sprint Wimax antenna and environmental RF interference as the cause by trying to browse in more than one location in my city. Also tried more than one NC. I'm running EVO's 3.70.651.1 from December.
Thanks for any pointers.
Works fine for me, but I'm using an Epic, not an Evo. Have you tried using another device to make sure that your 4G connection is actually being shared properly? Keep in mind that you have to enable 4G, then turn on Wifi Tether.
hazridi said:
Keep in mind that you have to enable 4G, then turn on Wifi Tether.
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Just tried your order of events. Still fails. It works as soon as you turn the 4G radio off and go back to 3G. I'm aware of one other Evo with the same problem. Your success with another device leads me to believe you're right it's an issue with the way the Evo is handling the requests.
Does anyone know what the difference is between WiMax 4G and EVDO 3g in an IP sense? Where could it hiccup?
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Have you tried using another device to make sure that your 4G connection is actually being shared properly?
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Do you mean like a laptop on the same software/hardware wi-fi connection? If so, yes laptops work fine. It's just the Nook Color that doesn't.
Try updating wifi tether to the latest version if you haven't.
3g and 4g uses different IP addresses and interfaces (while 2g and 3g use the same radio interface and IP, which is why you can go back and forth and your file transfers won't get interrupted), this is probably the real cause of your problem. You may have an old version of Wifi Tether that doesn't enable IP masquerade on the 4g interface.
Same problem here. My PC connects fine via WiFi tether on 4G to my EVO and at good speed. My NC stalls when connected to my EVO via wifi tether on 4G. Also speedtest app is slow on dl.
I have the latest version 2.0.6.
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Try updating wifi tether to the latest version if you haven't.
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I'm running 2.06 which is the latest I believe. This issue also exists using the Evo's Hotspot feature with a paid Sprint account add-on. I'm able to establish now that this is Evo only.
I tested this after reading your post. I am using CM6 w/o WIMAX, so had to nandroid restore Warm. I started 4G, then wireless tether. I tethered the NC to my Evo on 4G for about 15 minutes and it worked fine. Web pages loaded fully. Perhaps this short test is not too helpful, but I get crappy 4G service in my house.
When I was using the VaelPak ROM about a month ago, whenever I used 4G the browser (Dolphin HD and stock) on my phone would only load part of the web pages. This sounds similar to the issue that you are experiencing on the NC. Vael didn't have access to 4G, so couldn't isolate the problem (other VaelPak users had apparently reported similar issues).
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I tested this after reading your post. I am using CM6 w/o WIMAX, so had to nandroid restore Warm. I started 4G, then wireless tether. I tethered the NC to my Evo on 4G for about 15 minutes and it worked fine. Web pages loaded fully. Perhaps this short test is not too helpful, but I get crappy 4G service in my house.
When I was using the VaelPak ROM about a month ago, whenever I used 4G the browser (Dolphin HD and stock) on my phone would only load part of the web pages. This sounds similar to the issue that you are experiencing on the NC. Vael didn't have access to 4G, so couldn't isolate the problem (other VaelPak users had apparently reported similar issues).
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Thanks for testing and reporting. 15 minutes is plenty of time for 4G to freeze the browser, so that test indicated a successful session. What is Warm? Is it a ROM? Your second test with VaelPak ROM echos other tests where 4G/NC won't work. The Evo stock ROM doesn't work, for example.
Using Shinzul & Toast's Gingerbread 4g alpha 3 rom for the EVO, I can tether and browse on the Nook over 4g just fine.
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Thanks for testing and reporting. 15 minutes is plenty of time for 4G to freeze the browser, so that test indicated a successful session. What is Warm? Is it a ROM? Your second test with VaelPak ROM echos other tests where 4G/NC won't work. The Evo stock ROM doesn't work, for example.
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Yes, Warm is a popular Sense-based ROM. See this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=793471
Just to be clear, I did not test tethering the NC with the VaelPak ROM. I was just noting that I had experiences similar to the one you are describing while using that ROM on my phone -- the browser on my Evo would stop halfway through webpages when using 4G with that ROM.
It seems somewhat logical that the issue is ROM (or kernel?)-related, but it seems odd that you have success tethering everything other than the NC on 4G.
My nc connects perfectly to my evo on 4g using evio 1.8 rom from calkulin. I'm also using wireless tether, but i have had no issues.
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Thanks, I can see I am going to have to try a different ROM on the EVO. However, I wonder how the NC treats internet that's different to how a laptop does? Why does everything else browse web OK on all the ROMS but not the NC?
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Thanks, I can see I am going to have to try a different ROM on the EVO. However, I wonder how the NC treats internet that's different to how a laptop does? Why does everything else browse web OK on all the ROMS but not the NC?
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Do you by chance have the AdFree app installed (root only) or a hosts file on your Evo that blocks ads? After trying to use 4G on various ROMs recently, I realized that AdFree was causing my web pages to to load only part way. I looked around the web and found that at least a few people were having similar issues, and they isolated the problem to AdFree. After reverting the hosts file and uninstalling AdFree, my 4G web surfing was noticeably better.
I like not seeing ads, but would rather have a functional 4G. Just thought I would share in case this might be your issue.
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Do you by chance have the AdFree app installed (root only) or a hosts file on your Evo that blocks ads?
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No, good guess though.
ok so im getting the nook this afternoon (if ups comes through) and ive been thinking one big compromise i made over the galaxy tab was 3g. I would love to use this in places other than the ones with wifi. I have an HTC heroC and the wireless card does not support being a wireless hotspot, so i am forced to use apps like barnacle wifi teather but the speeds are horrible. Now that we have BT working on the nook (thx devs!) could i use PDA net's "Bluetooth teather" option to tie my nook to my phones 3g?
The bluetooth isn't working on the nook. (the hacked roms have it barely working)
The only thing you can do is connect it thru wifi. I've got a Motorola Cliq and can turn my phone into a wifi hot spot that my nook can access.
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The bluetooth isn't working on the nook. (the hacked roms have it barely working)
The only thing you can do is connect it thru wifi. I've got a Motorola Cliq and can turn my phone into a wifi hot spot that my nook can access.
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Actually this is completely incorrect. CM7 roms have it working relatively well. I cann get about 6 feet of distance with it now so if your holding your nook and your phones in your pocket I dont see why it wouldn't work.
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HI,
Sounds like some people have a non-user friendly method of getting Bluetooth
tethering running from Nook Color running CM7 to cell phone via bluetooth.
Haven't tried it myself yet. See these threads in developer section:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12090324&postcount=240
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=897934&page=31
Hope this helps.
Peter
sorry this information is wrong or outdated - i use BT gps and headset with my CM7 based nook color
timmyjoe42 said:
The bluetooth isn't working on the nook. (the hacked roms have it barely working)
The only thing you can do is connect it thru wifi. I've got a Motorola Cliq and can turn my phone into a wifi hot spot that my nook can access.
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Not to mention that the absolute last way CyanogenMod should be referred to is "hacked."
I'm still on CM7 19 and bluetooth is working well! However, I have not gotten BT tethering working at all (haven't tried much, bcuz wifi works well for me). Wondering why you get such bad speeds via WiFi tether? I have an OG Droid and I get good speeds.
I suggest trying out Wifi tether first and see how it works.
I'm hoping someone can answer my related question here about my phone.
I currently have the Samsung Moment, and no matter what ROM I use for my NC, I can't get it to see my tethered connection in the Available Networks.
My NC can see my friend's tethered connection on his HTC Touch Pro 2, and Nexus One, so I have a feeling it's got something to do with my phone.
Anyone with experience with the Samsung Moment--do you have any input as to a ROM that might make this work?
Thanks in advance.
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I'm hoping someone can answer my related question here about my phone.
I currently have the Samsung Moment, and no matter what ROM I use for my NC, I can't get it to see my tethered connection in the Available Networks.
My NC can see my friend's tethered connection on his HTC Touch Pro 2, and Nexus One, so I have a feeling it's got something to do with my phone.
Anyone with experience with the Samsung Moment--do you have any input as to a ROM that might make this work?
Thanks in advance.
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Most of the NC ROMS do not support Ad-hoc wifi networks right off the bat. If you're not sure if you have an ad-hoc network or not, try and tether your phone to your computer and you should be able to tell on there. If it is an ad-hoc issue, follow the instructions in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=868354
I too have a HTC HeroC and both it and my Nook are running CM7, AOSP build for the phone and Phiremods build for the nook. I have no problem using Wireless Tether to use my phone as a hotspot, I do so just about every day at work to brows the internet on lunch, speeds have been fine, can watch Youtube stuff and listen to internet radio just fine.
I use Wifi Tethering for Root Users on my Epic and it works great with my NC.
Hello everybody..I have weirdest question, weirdest because it seems nobody asked it before, which means I'm blind or dumb or both not to know. I just gave away new Archos 70 after ten days, not being happy with speed and such and exchange it for Galaxy Tab. So my only experience with Android comes from those 10 day with Archos, still it seems so intuitive. How do I get the Tab online?
I mean, I have one of those without 3G module and public wifi sux so it's obvious to have your tablet/PDA connected to your mobile phone over bluetooth, isn't it? Where is this tethering option which I used on Archos?
Nothing, really? Do you all have a 3G module equiped model..? Maybe I should exchange it one more time.:-/
Not sure why ppl get the wifi version, when it is so much fun to use the SGT as a phone and tab.
The only option you have with current tab is to run with wifi thru AP's or hotspots.
I would exchange for the 3G version if you have the banana's
Thanks, StarLog. Well, honestly, wifi version is way cheaper here, but that's not the only reason. I definitely do not plan to use it as a phone, I have my phone already and this is tablet. I am not going to carry it with me on every step as I do with my phone. Also, I already have data plan with my provider, why should I buy a second one especially when providers here do not mind at all? And bluetooth data connection is very common thing, I just can't believe it is not available with Galaxy.
Why bluetooth and not wifi ? Tethering is working fine. All you have to do is activate the mobile hotspot on your phone then connect the tab to it. I tried with a gsm gtab and a htc hd2 with android.
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Actually, I don't use my tab as a phone, bt I do want the always on experience, opting me to go after the 3G one. For the hotspot, you can root your tab, and then grab the wifi tether app.
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Actually, I don't use my tab as a phone, bt I do want the always on experience, opting me to go after the 3G one. For the hotspot, you can root your tab, and then grab the wifi tether app.
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Doesn't your Tab have the standard WiFi Hotspot?
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Dave
Hello, I am using Samsung galaxy tab. I am experiencing a problem relates to Verizon Wireless 3G. Whenever i use the browsing over the internet, or tethering with my other devices such as pc and android os. The 3G data somehow dropped ( the 3G local will disappear). I tried to click and un-click airplane mode, and data setting, but the 3G will not turn back On unless i reboot the tablet. I already bring to the Verizon Store, they told me only can do a hard reset. I don't think that will help. I am writing on xda to see if any Verizon wireless Samsung tab user experienced such problem, and do you have any suggestion and solution will help me a lot. Thank you so much.
My tablet running 2.3.5 rooted stock roms.
Newbie here with the Gear, sorry if this has been asked before but I googled for a while.
I have a rooted Gear with Null ROM and rooted phone. Bluetooth tethering is awfully slow though when I'm indoors since my phone gets crappy 3G/4G reception, but I have solid Wi-Fi -- the phone's apps all work great through Wi-Fi, but the bluetooth tether insists on trying to use cellular data even though Wi-Fi is there.
Is there any way to allow the bluetooth tethering to use both the 3G/4G as well as the Wi-Fi connection, whatever the phone has available?
Thanks!
It's limited to whatever your phone rom allows. E.g. international stock rom allows tethering via Wi-Fi where as most carrier rounds will only work with cellular data (if it is even an option)
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It's limited to whatever your phone rom allows. E.g. international stock rom allows tethering via Wi-Fi where as most carrier rounds will only work with cellular data (if it is even an option)
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Thanks! But why should it be limited by the carrier? I want to tether the actual Wi-Fi connection over bluetooth, not the cellular connection (because the Gear doesn't have Wi-Fi, but my phone does, and 95% of the time I'm indoors where I have much better Wi-Fi than cellular reception).
If it makes a difference, I bought my Nexus 4 directly from Google so it's stock ROM and rooted. If I have to change to some other ROM (e.g. Cyanogenmod) I'm willing to do that
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Thanks! But why should it be limited by the carrier? I want to tether the actual Wi-Fi connection over bluetooth, not the cellular connection (because the Gear doesn't have Wi-Fi, but my phone does, and 95% of the time I'm indoors where I have much better Wi-Fi than cellular reception).
If it makes a difference, I bought my Nexus 4 directly from Google so it's stock ROM and rooted. If I have to change to some other ROM (e.g. Cyanogenmod) I'm willing to do that
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maybe just a few words from my side - why do you need a faster internet connection?
i mostly use it just to sync new data like calendar, or to do list. even slow internet is enough to do that, as it's not a lot of information to be exchanged. if you are planning on streaming videos or so, prepare that your gear will die quickly..
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maybe just a few words from my side - why do you need a faster internet connection?
i mostly use it just to sync new data like calendar, or to do list. even slow internet is enough to do that, as it's not a lot of information to be exchanged. if you are planning on streaming videos or so, prepare that your gear will die quickly..
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For light use, faster internet means the device wastes less CPU cycles waiting for responses. It's going over bluetooth either way, so better the device get the data in a fraction of a second than say 20-30 seconds (literally; I get only GPRS and occasionally EDGE in my office, never 3G or 4G, but I have flawless Wi-Fi). In those 20-30 seconds I could have pulled the phone out of my pocket to check what came through.
Although in all honesty I bought the Gear to hack with, and there are lots of crazy ideas I want to do with it that want a fast internet connection. Yes, the battery will die quickly, but that's the price of early adoption; I just want to hack for now and hope that when battery technology becomes better I can continue to be living with my futuristic apps. For now I can live with a charging cable down my sleeve and an external battery in my pocket, but I don't want to use USB tethering since I want it to still be able to go while disconnected.
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Thanks! But why should it be limited by the carrier? I want to tether the actual Wi-Fi connection over bluetooth, not the cellular connection (because the Gear doesn't have Wi-Fi, but my phone does, and 95% of the time I'm indoors where I have much better Wi-Fi than cellular reception).
If it makes a difference, I bought my Nexus 4 directly from Google so it's stock ROM and rooted. If I have to change to some other ROM (e.g. Cyanogenmod) I'm willing to do that
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I meant carrier branded rom. But in theory, stock international roms should use wifi if connected, otherwise use data. Some roms don't allow wifi to be used for tethering (cellular data only)
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I meant carrier branded rom. But in theory, stock international roms should use wifi if connected, otherwise use data. Some roms don't allow wifi to be used for tethering (cellular data only)
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Brendo is right. Stock roms often have wifi tethering via bluetooth enabled and can switch back and forth as need. I have not experienced laser fast result with either but as you states "for your needs", look for a phone with native bluetooth tethering. One that works well and is cheap is the Galaxy Grand II. I have one and it worked well. I use a Note 2 now with native bluetooth tethering via Verizon and it works with 4G but not wifi. Maybe someone will chime in with an international rom that has this capability.
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Brendo is right. Stock roms often have wifi tethering via bluetooth enabled and can switch back and forth as need. I have not experienced laser fast result with either but as you states "for your needs", look for a phone with native bluetooth tethering. One that works well and is cheap is the Galaxy Grand II. I have one and it worked well. I use a Note 2 now with native bluetooth tethering via Verizon and it works with 4G but not wifi. Maybe someone will chime in with an international rom that has this capability.
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Interesting. I have a Nexus 4 (directly from Google), and I'm surprised that if this feature exists that the Nexus 4 doesn't offer it. You'd think it'd be in Google's best interest given Glass and all.
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Interesting. I have a Nexus 4 (directly from Google), and I'm surprised that if this feature exists that the Nexus 4 doesn't offer it. You'd think it'd be in Google's best interest given Glass and all.
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This is very true as unfortunatly in the US, native BT tethering is often blocked via Carriers who want to charge for it. In theory, this shouldnt be an issue with the Nexus line, curious if the Nexus 5 can... I can confirm, first hand that the technology does exist for wifi bluetooth tethering but it may be that no US phone has this feature enabled, to date. It should be noted that my Galaxy Grand was an international model, specifically the Latin model, not the India model. I could acutually use the phone without a sim card to serve up bluetooth PAN via home wifi to my old Motoactiv Smartwatch while I was screwing around in the house.
Faster Tethering?
wuxiekeji said:
Newbie here with the Gear, sorry if this has been asked before but I googled for a while.
I have a rooted Gear with Null ROM and rooted phone. Bluetooth tethering is awfully slow though when I'm indoors since my phone gets crappy 3G/4G reception, but I have solid Wi-Fi -- the phone's apps all work great through Wi-Fi, but the bluetooth tether insists on trying to use cellular data even though Wi-Fi is there.
Is there any way to allow the bluetooth tethering to use both the 3G/4G as well as the Wi-Fi connection, whatever the phone has available?
Thanks!
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You should include som info about the make and model of your phone if you wish people to help you....
Anyway, both my GalaxyS3 and my iPhone4S can easily be used to share WiFi with my Gear over Bluetooth. But it doesn't increase the speed much as this is limited by the BT bandwith between the phone and the Gear. Typically max 3Mb/s
I've got an N9005 rooted (X-Note 13) bluetooth tethering my null 23 gear, and on 4G I actually get speeds up to 5MB/sec, yet the gear rarely goes above 50kb/sec, which, for me, is too low even for a vague browsing . I highly doubt anything carrier specific, I just think bluetooth is slow...