Does Droid 3 support OTG like SGS2?
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The drivers and phone is capable like any other - Not officially, plugging devices into the phone will not work, nor windows wont give you full host access with out using mass storage mode.
There is a little application called Droidexplorer which works in a similar fashion to otg, but also allows access every part of the phone (root) when simply plugged in even when the phone is set to charge only mode.
Excellent app if this is what your looking for, look it up.
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Does Droid 3 support OTG like SGS2?
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As above... Is it available? I would so love to use a mouse/bt keyboard with my D3+HDMI...
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Wrexem said:
As above... Is it available? I would so love to use a mouse/bt keyboard with my D3+HDMI...
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Wait for webtop.
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Err, that Ubuntu thing I mean. Sorry.
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maybe trick
Maybe any trick USB OTG for droid 3 use application like q5 memory manager?
somone get it working=?
OTG works perfectly with a modded lapdock, with the keyboard, touchpad and 2 USB ports all interfacing via USB. The stock ROM even supports mounting and unmounting flash drives as shown by a screenshot in this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25111643&postcount=29
But I could never get it working with an OTG adapter. That same OTG adapter works fine on my Touchpad so thats not the issue. Its possible that the Droid 3 needs +5v Vcc to be connected, because when its on the lapdock its charging as well as providing OTG. This is different from my Touchpad which refuses to charge when in OTG and doesn't even need Vcc connected.
ok, thanks
but i only wanne use that otg adapter with flashdrives ;/
Hi,
I use ME863 that could support OTG but Just need through an Usb hub
that has external power supply.
I think Droid 3 should be ok, too.
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i was able to get OTG working with a powered hub. last weekend i cracked open my hd dock for my droid 3 and added a $3 usb hub from monoprice.com. i now have 3 external usb ports that work flawlessly. $16 wireless keyboard/mouse combo from Gigabyte works like a charm from the couch with a 40" screen. hdmi+OTG+charge all work simultaneously.
the hdmi in the dock is just a pass-through so leave it alone. the wires for the usb port are labeled on the board. i crossed the brown(sense) with the bare ground. moved the r-w-g-b wires to there respective holes on the pcb for the hub. there are 3 empty holes on the pcb for the hub witch you can easily determine one is for power and the other 2 are ground (like there was an option for external power that didn't get soldered on the board). i ran wires from the power and ground holes i found on the hub to the original red and black holes on the dock pcb to piggy back power. i also relocated the led to a new hole in the front of the dock.
i also played around trying to get dock mode to work at the same time(if you actually want that). it seems if you only momentarily ground sence wire bur leave it hooked to the dock it will go back into dock mode but all devices that were initialized seem to keep working. you could in theory hold down a button after docking to initialize the usb accessories than let go to put it back into dock.
i also tried to find a way to get the audio out port to work (under the assumption it functioned like a usb sound card) but in the end i gave up as i cant think of an instance i would use it as the audio already feeds through the hdmi port. i would like to know if anyone gets it working though.
Got it working as well
Just wanted to say that I got it to work with a similar setup as kaiw1982.
I bought a powered usb hub and installing 2 apps to get mass storage support:
usb host controller for host support and paragon ntfs&HFS+ for ntfs support.
Running XT860 with Minimoto 1.7 and Maverick 4.0
Hope this helps
Droid3
TheRabbit2 said:
Just wanted to say that I got it to work with a similar setup as kaiw1982.
I bought a powered usb hub and installing 2 apps to get mass storage support:
usb host controller for host support and paragon ntfs&HFS+ for ntfs support.
Running XT860 with Minimoto 1.7 and Maverick 4.0
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Hello,
I have a Droid3 and will be retiring it soon. I can use it as an XBMC media center IF I can get ethernet to work on it. My WIFI connections are NOT stable enough to broadcast live 1080p TV although SD TV does work.
Have either of you tested a USB-ETHERNET adapter with the droid3?
Thanks
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Hello,
I have a Droid3 and will be retiring it soon. I can use it as an XBMC media center IF I can get ethernet to work on it. My WIFI connections are NOT stable enough to broadcast live 1080p TV although SD TV does work.
Have either of you tested a USB-ETHERNET adapter with the droid3?
Thanks
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I don't have one but I'd give it a low chance of working since support for USB devices on anything older than Android 3.x isn't that good. About the only things that work are mass storage devices like flash drivers and HID input devices like keyboards and mice.
I can confirm that the D3 supports otg, with or without a usb hub, but BOTH the phone and usb device must receive 5v from the same source.
OTG cable is also required due to the grounded ID pin.
I finally got around to ordering a proper OTG cable, I bought one like this:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009YPYORM
It works, some devices seemed to work okay without the hub, but best results are achieved using a hub. Then its just as reliable as USB support is when using a modded lapdock. Keyboard and mice work, mass storage devices like flash drives work, and surprisingly the Files app supports them and gives an eject option in the notification bar.
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Based on my experience, the following work:
generic USB keyboard
Logitech DiNovo Mini with included adapter
USB flash drive up to 32GB
some card readers except sandisk mobilemate (only takes one card at time)
The following doesn't work:
sandisk mobilemate (microsd/m2)
USB speaker (but you can supply power through USB host and connect through regular audio connection)
You can add your experience below.
USB Devices
plugged a CyberPower 4 port USB hub into usb port then plugged 2 Lexar 4gb drives in and it was able to see both drive and play movies from them.
USB Keyboard?
I have tried connecting a USB keyboard with no luck. Is this because of the type of port on the A7?
tested
No problem with Microsoft keyboards.
generic mouse half works.... since there is no pointer I can not tell if I'm pointing at something. The scroll wheel does work.
Gravies Gamepad Pro does not work.
I bought a off brand Wii remote to use as a controller for the a7 but it seems i need a Name brand remote... bummer huh? Anyone know of a fix for this?
USB Keyboard
I connected a wireless keyboard and was able to type in appropriate areas, however when I was navigating I could change the focused item but could not find a way to select a given item without actually touching the screen.
Has anyone discovered a way to accomplish this function?
Case with keyboard not working
I bought a case off Ebay. When I plug it into the Elocity A7, nothing happens. When I plug it into a WinXP PC, it detects the keyboard and it functions fine. Could this be a driver issue and if so where is a good place to find Android Drivers? I'm new to Android so please go easy on me
My favorite keyboard the happy hacking pro 2 works just fine
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HP Photosmart camera works fine. In the cameras options set USB mode to disk and it will read as a standard thumb drive.
This tablet is on sale right now
Does anyone know if I can connect my Western Digital 1TB Passport USB HDD to it? Or will I need to get a powered USB hub? I'm trying not to spend money on getting an Archos 101 (which apparently has the juice to power up a WD 1TB HDD). I primarily need a tablet for a media player in my vehicle, nothing else.. maybe have a shopping list on it for when I go grocery shopping?
So ya... can A7 handle 1TB external usb hard drive specifically: Western Digital My passport.
Edit: The A7 would be powered via cigarette lighter by the way.. it's not going to power my external hdd through battery, that's just silly.
Generc dell keybard works. Pelican afterglow ps3 controller does not.
Sandisk cruzer 4 gb usb drive works. Verbatim 2tb hdd causes reboot and white screen
Running Elocitymod 1.3
A7 accepts USB up to 64 GB. Maybe you can partition off 64 GB on your Passport??
Has anyone come across a bluetooth gamepad that works well with this tablet? I'm hoping to purchase something small and reasonably priced and use it to play a few old school classics via different emulators. Will a Wii remote work?
Connected a mini bluetooth keyboard without any problem,and im using a leather keyboard case without problems as well.
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Wii remotes do not work on the A7, sadly. I've tried all the pairing apps, they all either force close or immediately unpair when attempting to pair. I don't know enough about the issue to say if the problem is hardware (or lack thereof) related or software related so someone smarter than me will have to let us know if it will ever be possible.
On a side note to contribute to this conversation, I tried an HP USB keyboard and it works fine.
pejker said:
Has anyone come across a bluetooth gamepad that works well with this tablet? I'm hoping to purchase something small and reasonably priced and use it to play a few old school classics via different emulators. Will a Wii remote work?
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Thanks for the info...i just tried to pair the Wiimote and got the same results you did; I'm currently using Dexter's latest ROM. Using the touchscreen is horrendous even if elocity had multi-touch.
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I bought a case off Ebay. When I plug it into the Elocity A7, nothing happens. When I plug it into a WinXP PC, it detects the keyboard and it functions fine. Could this be a driver issue and if so where is a good place to find Android Drivers? I'm new to Android so please go easy on me
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Good news - bad news. I also bought a keyboard on ebay and got it to work. I had a hunch that the power supplied by the USB port on the elocity was marginal. I connected the keyboard through a powered USB hub and...it works. If the power supplied by the A7 is marginal, that would explain why some devices work and others don't and why the ebay keyboard worked for one but wouldn't work for others.
This could be confirmed by cutting up a USB cable and measuring the voltage and current supplied to the keyboard from the A7 and comparing it with a PC or powered hub. I didn't have the time or inclination to do that.
Unfortunately, this makes the case with keyboard a kludge, because you will need a powered hub to get it to work.
Not all the cases with keyboard have required something else in order for them to work sounds like a roll of the device to me lol.
Yeah, mine works fine.
USB Keyboard Works Great on the A7
I found this to USB Keyboard to work great with the elocity A7
You can buy a Dell streak 7 usb otg host cable (100% working): -
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=221061467218
there are other sellers listing the same items, and you can check it on ebay, I live in canada and ordered from china. It took around 15 days to deliver.
I recommend buy a usb female to dual (2) male usb Y cable: -
http://www.ebay.com/itm/USB-2-0-A-F..._USB_Cables_Hubs_Adapters&hash=item27ba21e9e4
steps to follow:
1. Root your dell streak and install USB OTG Helper.apk from android play store.
2. Switchoff dell streak 7,
3. Connect dell usb host cable (pdmi to usb otg adapter) to male connector of usb Y cable, and then connect usb device to female connector of usb Y cable.
4. Switch on dell streak 7.
5. After, Dell streak lock screen, connect another male connector of usb Y cable to power source (Dell Ac adapter).
6. go to usb otg helper and click on mount, it can may start adobe reader, don't worry.
7. go to es file explorer, and your drive is usb_drive_1.
Thanks & Regards,
Sahota
If the streak 7 is on the dell dock which has a micro USB input on the back... is it safe to assume that the docks power could sufficiently charge the streak and supply enough juice to a otg micro USB y cable to two female? I want to have a keyboard with a built in mouse pad connected, and have a 32gig flash connection available simultaneously
Edit: forgot to point out, dock is hard wired in my car, and thought it obvious that the dock would bypass the need for the 30pin. Just trying to learn if anyone has been successful at getting the streak to host through the oem dock.
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No, the dock does not work for OTG purposes. The dock is wired the same as the USB data cable, which is different from an OTG adapter. That's why you can't use the USB data cable with just a USB gender changer for OTG purposes. The only way to use USB devices with the Streak 7 is with an OTG adapter and a USB Y cable with two male USB and one female USB ends and plugging one male end into the OTG adapter and one male end into a USB AC adapter to supply power for the USB device as the Streak 7 does not supply power over USB. You also need to power off the Streak 7 and then plug in the OTG adapter and power it back up then plug in the USB Y Cable, USB AC adapter, and USB device. There are two useful apps on Google Play for setting up and using USB devices with your Streak, or any Android device. One is USB Host Controller to monitor when the device is plugged in and working, and the other is USB Mass Storage Watcher which allows you to set an option for auto-mounting USB flash drives when plugged in.
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Works as posted. It did take me a bit of to get set up. Thanks again.
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Just a short question:
will the Streak (and not only the device) get power from the y-cable ?
Thanxs in advance
Zorbas
Unfortunately no, it only powers the device. The OTG adapter prevents it from charging.
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zenisnotchosen said:
Unfortunately no, it only powers the device. The OTG adapter prevents it from charging.
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Is there any solution ? Together with an external ssd the Streak would make a wonderful car music and movie station. Without external power - not so much.
I am capable of modify or add some cable. CouldnĀ“t it be done like that ?
And thanks for your quick response.
Zorbas
I'm not 100% so I could be wrong, but I don't think it's possible. By the way the OTG adapter seems to work you have the choice of USB functions or charging. you have to power off the device and plug in the OTG adapter then power it back on to get it to work, and once you unplug it and plug the data/charge cable back in it turns off OTG functions and you have to reboot again. I know the data/charge adapters and the OTG adapters are wired differently (that's how the OTG adapter enables USB function on boot if plugged in) so you could try taking apart both adapters and combining the pin connections of the two. I'm almost positive this won't work though. Plus if it did I'd imagine we'd already see them available just like the OTG adapter.
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If you want to both charge and use otg you need an official dock as that's the only one with all the pins exposed (as in available to the user).
I'll have to (re)check, but I believe it can both charge and accept otg devices.
Dock charging is serviced by different pins then the normal usb charge. afaik only the official dock has an otg port, generic docks dont.
It might be possible to hack a cable to do both, but the sold ones are not wired to do this by default.
The dock will not support OTG without modification though (maybe that's what you meant). I've tried without modifying the wiring and it will not enable OTG.
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My 2nd gen dock does without modification, you are using the actual OTG port correct? And you're providing power right? The S7 will not provide power period.
Of course it requires using a custom rom as the stock rom doesnt support OTG.
I've been able to use otg and hdmi out on my tv simultaniously, I dont recall if it can charge but otg definitely works.
My dock only has the mini USB data port, HDMI port, 3.5mm audio jack, and power port. The mini USB port does not work for OTG. Maybe it's because my dock isn't second gen though, I don't know if it's first or second gen. Yes the stock kernel does support OTG. I have stock 3.2 and OTG works perfectly with the OTG adapter.
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Must be first gen, it's labelled Rev. A00.
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As far as I'm aware:
Gen 1: Designed for S5
Gen 2: Designed for S5 and S7
And both contain the following ports:
Dock power connector
USB-OTG (usb mini-AB female)
USB-Slave (usb mini-b female)
Line out
Speaker out
(see wikipedia for usb port definitions)
I have not heard of a version not containing both usb ports.
I personally have a 2nd gen dock and I believe that my info is correct for the 1st gen dock.
Could you provide pictures of the dock/original box? By what you're saying it's an official dock from dell I assume?
Yes official dock. Only one mini USB port. it supports both Streak 5 and Streak 7, it has both clear plastic pieces that support the phone/tablet standing. Came with Dell AC USB power adapter, Dell mini USB to USB make cable, and Dell power cable (barrel plug to male USB).
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Couldn't find the box. If I do I'll post pics. Let me know if you need anything else.
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Whoops! my memory was playing tricks with me, it only has one port.
But we have the same dock, that's the 2nd gen dell dock.
As I said though, you can do otg though that dock as long as
you have a rom that supports otg (stock roms do not)
you have a powered usb hub (as the S7 does not supply power)
an approporate cable
The 2nd gen dock (and I believe the 1st gen also) has a micro usb-AB port, and not the standard micro-usb B port.
It's one of the few devices fully in-spec for usb-otg. (nearly all devices are out of spec in that they use have a micro-uub A female port and yet support otg, otg devices were always supposed to use micro-usb AB female ports, but micro-usb A is depreciated now)
You're 'supposed' to use one of these:
To properly use otg, but you can functionally get away with using a Mini-A male <-> Standard-A female.
This is what I used and I can confirm it works as long as you meet all 3 requirements up above.
I'm not sure how important it us to use a Mini-A male <-> standard-a female instead of the more common mini-B male <-> standard-a female.
If you dont supply your own power, the S7 will simply not detect anything at all.
Even with a powered hub it took a lot of fiddling with it to get it to initialize the hub (hub turns on if it detects a host, and it took much time to get it to power up).
I can only confirm that a keyboard and mouse work though, none of the roms are set up to accept drives (mostly config issue, not inherently unable to).
Edit: I had already dicussed this in a previous thread, repost:
TheManii said:
The 2nd gen dock has a mini-AB port.
Left is a mini-A connector, right is a mini-B. Thusly the 2nd gen dock can accept either and you can use either host mode or slave mode.
I assume host and slave both use the same pins on the dell 30 pin port, if that is the case then I guess you cant use it as both a host and slave at the same time.
The original standard used mini A/B ports and connectors. The current standard is to use their eqivilent micro A/B ports and connectors. This is the proper way to do USB-OTG support.
Off topic: micro usb OTG cables are technically out of spec (if I am understanding it correctly).
The host device should have a micro-AB port if it supports hosting and the cable should be micro-B <-> micro-A.
The point of A ports and connectors is to physically indicate the device is capable of OTG support on that port. Otherwise you would have to randomly guess and plug things in to see if it'll work or not (at the hardware level, we'll completely ignore software support for now)
The above two cables are techincally out of spec, though the USB-IF isnt going to raid their factories and stop them or anything.
Is the proper way with usb-mini, I cant even find the equivilent usb-micro cable though. Admittedly it's rather useless though, as things such as usb keyboards and flash drives are perfectly compatable, but never have a port.
I use a mini-A male <-> usb-A female cable, which is a close compromise.
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I tried using mini USB to female USB and using a gender changer on a mini USB to USB male cable and it doesn't work for me. I wish it would. And my stock ROM does support OTG. I can use it fine with my standard OTG adapter.
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Which rom are you using exactly?
I dont remember how much testing I did on stock roms, I spent most of it testing on ICS (i think?, it was months ago)
Dell official Honeycomb 3.2 514 21700 if I remember correctly. It also worked on 503 19535 which is what my Streak 7 came with preinstalled. And thanks for trying to help.
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TheManii said:
As I said though, you can do otg though that dock as long as
you have a rom that supports otg (stock roms do not)
you have a powered usb hub (as the S7 does not supply power)
an approporate cable
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I have recently got myself the Dell Official HOME Dock for my Streak 7 (4g version, Stock HC, rooted). I also have a "mini USB male to USB female" like the one you have shown. I tried connecting my Flash drive using these, but obviously it would not work.
So I wanted to understand:
What custom ROMs support OTG?
What exactly do you mean when you say a "powered usb hub"? Do you mean I need a USB "Y" cable and have one male connected to the power?
I am not responsible for your bricked phone/SD. If blame me I will laugh at you.
You should know by now the disclaimer and blah blahs!
I have looked EVERYWHERE (google and fastboot is your friend) for these and tested multiple times
different modules and found the ones that work. They only program -should- be needed as it is the only
one I use is a program that is free on the Google Play Store is Paragan NTFS&HFS+ Program. *Root of course*
I have tested this on my phone itself and I am using my external mouse,
keyboard and external drive as we speak!
My personal set-up is a Targus PAEPRO090 so called "docking station" that has
5 USB HiSpeed Ports
LAN Adapter
Printer Port
Serial Port
3.5 mm Audio Jack (although I have yet to get it to work)
What this does
INSTALLS:
FUSE driver (Full NTFS Read Write support for ARM devices)
isofs (To allow mounting ISO and image files)
nls_utf8 (for mounting a CIFS windows share and allows extra features)
NTFS modules (to allow android to mount NTFS)
and a module that allows for NTFS USB mounting
Version 2 has Ethernet Drivers AND my OTG drivers all in one.
If things do not start up (ethernet) go to the terminal and enter
Code:
su
usb_ethernet
Thanks for sharing this!
One question: Can you actually take a regular USB OTG cable (with micro USB on one side and a female 'regular' USB A connector on the other side) like this:
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And use it to connect e.g. a USB flash drive to your phone?
Because AFAIK the Droid 4 USB port doesn't provide power output, I once tested it with mine with a special splitted USB cable that get's the power elsewhere, which worked, but not with a regular USB OTG cable.
Thanks
You need a cable that is split and provides power externally.
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I took the otg cable as shown striped a portion of the plastic back, took a standard charger (5.1v 850 mA) spliced in the red and black works fine with keyboard, mouse and flash drive(for me and my generic three). A powered USB hub works also just phone wont charge with the powered USB hub i have...
...would love to know how to get a dock type reaction when plugged into a powered otg cable without a third party app on a stock d4... ima take my dock apart see how they have it wired...
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dbreezy187 said:
I took the otg cable as shown striped a portion of the plastic back, took a standard charger (5.1v 850 mA) spliced in the red and black works fine with keyboard, mouse and flash drive(for me and my generic three). A powered USB hub works also just phone wont charge with the powered USB hub i have...
...would love to know how to get a dock type reaction when plugged into a powered otg cable without a third party app on a stock d4... ima take my dock apart see how they have it wired...
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I believe it uses the 5th (pin 4) USB wire that "normally" isnt't used. But when you make the OTG Cable that requires external power make sure you connect up the power to the part you hook your external device and not the side you hook up to your phone... Get what im trying to say? lol
NORMAL
Pin 1: VCC
Pin 2: data-
Pin 3: data+
Pin 4 Not connected/unused/sense
Pin 5: ground
OTG Cable
Pin 1: VCC
Pin 2: data-
Pin 3: data+
Pin 4 ground (Pin 5)
Pin 5: ground
Yes this i understand i have made several otg cables for friends with quick connect power supply for use with a hub.. but a few would like a dock made rather then pay the 90$ i figured i could make one. When plugged into either of the two docks your prompted with a choice for a dock type office, bedside, charge only.. this is what I wish to achieve without any app installed or root as some of my moto friends don't wish to root... I can put a dock together for about 25$ with USB hub, hdmi and audio jack just no reaction from phone when plugged in... would even settle for landscape on home screen when plugged in...thank you kindly for any info... haven't yet had the time to take my two apart...
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I'm pretty sure the dock is detected by those 4 pins on the bottom right of the battery on the phone; a magnet is placed inside the dock in a spot that would line up with the phone's sensors.
II've never tried to do this but I'm sure it wouldn't be very difficult.
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Ok... so i took a look at the inside of the standard HD dock (no USB hub) it appears that a resistor on pin 4 prior to the ground triggers the dock mode... I was interrupted during the "examination" of the guts so the size of the resistance is not know yet and it appears pins 2, 3, and 5 are split off into the audio jack more details yet to come...
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Rick#2 said:
I'm pretty sure the dock is detected by those 4 pins on the bottom right of the battery on the phone; a magnet is placed inside the dock in a spot that would line up with the phone's sensors.
II've never tried to do this but I'm sure it wouldn't be very difficult.
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Actually I think those 4 pins are for the inductive charging battery cover option.
Cable needed
Can anyone point me to an exact place I can buy a cable? I'd prefer one that I can plug into a usb charger on one end, then my phone/usb otg device on the others. I'd appreciate it. I see so many places that say use this cable, then someone says no it doesn't work.
zeroktal said:
Can anyone point me to an exact place I can buy a cable? I'd prefer one that I can plug into a usb charger on one end, then my phone/usb otg device on the others. I'd appreciate it. I see so many places that say use this cable, then someone says no it doesn't work.
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this is the one I bought
http://goo.gl/6hOAV
Awesome Thanks
I just ordered one, thanks a bunch.
Ok guys I want to share a guid with you on the same subject.
You can find all these modules, programs and instructions HERE.
I have tested the above and are working fine.
I was not able to make the wireless keyboard work though.
They say that you don't need a module for that but as far as I can see the wireless keyboard does not work on my phone.
It did work fine when I had the 2.3.4 with the older usb-hid and usb-keyb modules.
I use these on an Xperia Neon V with ultimate HD v.2.0 ROM and kernel .587
Can anyone test if wireless keyboards work on this setup and confirm?
Mouse works fine. Usb Storage as well.
As for the cable I ordered this one
It has a micro usb female port where you can suppry power using a standard USB charger cable.
Re: Installable ICS USB OTG Modules THAT WORKS!
Je2854: Cable works perfect, thanks a bunch.
zeroktal said:
Je2854: Cable works perfect, thanks a bunch.
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your welcome, any time
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your welcome, any time
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Hi! Does it work with Jelly Bean 4.1.2 stock rom? I've just got the cable (Y cable which can get external power from USB) from China, after more than 1 month, and I've just updated the phone.
Mr Wolf said:
Hi! Does it work with Jelly Bean 4.1.2 stock rom? I've just got the cable (Y cable which can get external power from USB) from China, after more than 1 month, and I've just updated the phone.
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It should work with any version 4.x.x or higher
Ok... I'm ready to try!
A dumb question: should META-INF folder be copied in the root folder? And the modules in their path, right?
Mr Wolf said:
Ok... I'm ready to try!
A dumb question: should META-INF folder be copied in the root folder? And the modules in their path, right?
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the only thing you should do it flash the zip...
everything goes to its proper folder in the OS
Many thanks!
Another dumb question: what I flash it with? RSD Lite o Flash recovery? :cyclops:
Note: You will still need a NON-POWERED OTG cable though, but there's no need to cut it.
Having only a non-powered OTG cable and eager to hack my Chromecast, I went looking for other cables/adaptors lying around my house in an attempt to find an alternative. Here's what I came up with.
Things you will need:
NON-POWERED OTG Cable
Male-to-Male USB Cable
USB HUB
Steps:
1. Connect the micro USB end of the OTG cable to the Chromecast and the other end to the male end of the USB hub.
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2. Insert your Flashcast thumbdrive into one of the ports of the USB hub and the Male-to-Male USB cable into another port.
3. Insert the other end of the Male-to-Male USB cable to your preferred USB power source. (I used a portable charger for convenience sake.)
There are many other possible solutions depending on the cables/adaptors you manage to find. The point I'm trying to make is, instead of sourcing for a rare cable days or weeks of shipping time away from you, an immediate alternative might just around the corner waiting for your discovery.
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Note: You will still need a NON-POWERED OTG cable though, but there's no need to cut it.
Having only a non-powered OTG cable and eager to hack my Chromecast, I went looking for other cables/adaptors lying around my house in an attempt to find an alternative. Here's what I came up with.
Things you will need:
NON-POWERED OTG Cable
Male-to-Male USB Cable
USB HUB
Steps:
1. Connect the micro USB end of the OTG cable to the Chromecast and the other end to the male end of the USB hub.
2. Insert your Flashcast thumbdrive into one of the ports of the USB hub and the Male-to-Male USB cable into another port.
3. Insert the other end of the Male-to-Male USB cable to your preferred USB power source. (I used a portable charger for convenience sake.)
There are many other possible solutions depending on the cables/adaptors you manage to find. The point I'm trying to make is, instead of sourcing for a rare cable days or weeks of shipping time away from you, an immediate alternative might just around the corner waiting for your discovery.
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Did something very similar myself too, has worked using 2 or 3 hubs. Worth noting a cheaper crappy hub is far more likely to work for this than a posh expensive one, as some have protections to prevent power going the wrong way through the hub, as I believe this is specified in some of the standards.
Literally right Before reading this thread I successfully rooted my Chromecast with this method, but to note my usb hub is powered by an ac adapter, i assumed this was a requirement.
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This will only work if your hub will backfeed. I had to use a external hard drive power y cable.
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Did something very similar myself too, has worked using 2 or 3 hubs. Worth noting a cheaper crappy hub is far more likely to work for this than a posh expensive one, as some have protections to prevent power going the wrong way through the hub, as I believe this is specified in some of the standards.
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Literally right Before reading this thread I successfully rooted my Chromecast with this method, but to note my usb hub is powered by an ac adapter, i assumed this was a requirement.
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This will only work if your hub will backfeed. I had to use a external hard drive power y cable.
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Sadly, mine didn't come with an AC adaptor, had to improvise. Like what hearnia_2K said, most cheap hubs should work, and posh ones will likely come together with an AC adaptor anyway.
Worked great with a rockband USB hub.
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Worked great with a rockband USB hub.
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Just bought a Belkin powered USB hub from local Walmart on clearance for $4. Thought it was a bust till I took jercb123's advice and used a Y USB cord from one of my external HDD's.Used the other end of the Y cable plugged into one my phone wall chargers and took with first try. Thanks for this.
Did I screw up?
I went out and purchased a non-powered otg cable and before reading any posts( I know I should have read thru this thread a couple of times, but I didn't) I started connecting things to each other. the light on the chrome cast was white then it went red. I unplugged everything then connected the chromecast to my TV via HDMI. the screen said it was updating and got as far as 10% before I unplugged it. I waited a few minutes then plugged into my tv again and the screen said updating, 0% then 10%. I unplugged it again.
A couple of facts to consider:
1. I did not yet down load the new image and burn it to a usb drive.
2. the chrome cast, before the latest connection to the HDMI of the TV, was still
not updated.
Did I some how allow the update to happen? what should I do? do I give up on rooting this for now? Thanks for your answers and help!!!( I hope I made some sense!)
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I went out and purchased a non-powered otg cable and before reading any posts( I know I should have read thru this thread a couple of times, but I didn't) I started connecting things to each other. the light on the chrome cast was white then it went red. I unplugged everything then connected the chromecast to my TV via HDMI. the screen said it was updating and got as far as 10% before I unplugged it. I waited a few minutes then plugged into my tv again and the screen said updating, 0% then 10%. I unplugged it again.
A couple of facts to consider:
1. I did not yet down load the new image and burn it to a usb drive.
2. the chrome cast, before the latest connection to the HDMI of the TV, was still
not updated.
Did I some how allow the update to happen? what should I do? do I give up on rooting this for now? Thanks for your answers and help!!!( I hope I made some sense!)
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Once the update has been downloaded, there is no easy way to root the device. The only way to get out of recovery mode is to let it update, unless you're willing to disassemble the device. If you are that desperate to root, you can attempt to force a USB boot by using the method described here. However, that method is quite invasive and possibly dangerous, and I can't be held responsible if using it breaks your Chromecast.
Hmm i followed the methods mentioned here but flashcast isnt getting loaded My chromecast is new and hasnt been turned on since I ordered it last month ( I've been away) so its still new in the box. I also have a USB 4 port belkin hub with its own power source. I have that plugged into the wall...cable to the hub....USB stick in 1 port with the flashcast bin loaded onto it....other port has usb cable to chromecast which is then hooked to TV. I hold button on cast and connect power..Red light comes on..(still holding button)....nothing happening...I got like 3 dots on my screen but nothing happens even after holding down for 30+ seconds. If i dont press the button on cast and connect power..then it just boots normally ideas?
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Hmm i followed the methods mentioned here but flashcast isnt getting loaded My chromecast is new and hasnt been turned on since I ordered it last month ( I've been away) so its still new in the box. I also have a USB 4 port belkin hub with its own power source. I have that plugged into the wall...cable to the hub....USB stick in 1 port with the flashcast bin loaded onto it....other port has usb cable to chromecast which is then hooked to TV. I hold button on cast and connect power..Red light comes on..(still holding button)....nothing happening...I got like 3 dots on my screen but nothing happens even after holding down for 30+ seconds. If i dont press the button on cast and connect power..then it just boots normally ideas?
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The Chromecast needs to be connected to the USB-B port of the hub using a regular OTG cable. See my post here for more information.
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The Chromecast needs to be connected to the USB-B port of the hub using a regular OTG cable. See my post here for more information.
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Then it dosnt turn on. I put the chromecast with a regular OTG cable connected to it connected to usb to mini B connector to Hub....flash drive in other of the 4 USB ports on hub...and port was powered with power cable that it came with.
This is the HUB I have
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Then it dosnt turn on. I put the chromecast with a regular OTG cable connected to it connected to usb to mini B connector to Hub....flash drive in other of the 4 USB ports on hub...and port was powered with power cable that it came with.
This is the HUB I have
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In any case you can't have both the chromecast and the flashdrive on the ports - they cant communicate over the ports. One of them must be on the male end of the hub.
Any chance to get this working without a male-to-male usb cable? I have an unpovered otg cable and few powered and unpowered usb hubs.....
thx
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Any chance to get this working without a male-to-male usb cable? I have an unpovered otg cable and few powered and unpowered usb hubs.....
thx
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It may work with certain powered hubs. Use the OTG cable to connect the USB-B port of the hub to the Chromecast, plug your USB drive into one of the USB-A ports on the hub, and then connect the hub's power. If the Chromecast turns on, you should be able to hold the button to boot from the USB drive.
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It may work with certain powered hubs. Use the OTG cable to connect the USB-B port of the hub to the Chromecast, plug your USB drive into one of the USB-A ports on the hub, and then connect the hub's power. If the Chromecast turns on, you should be able to hold the button to boot from the USB drive.
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Hmm seems non of my hubs is able to backfeed the chromecast to turn it on so no other way than wayting for the Y otg cable...
Male to male usb cable seems to be more exotic part of any household than regular or Y otg
do what i did, i had a few spare male /female usb cables, i chopped 2 up and took the male ends and hooked them up together then taped them up XD it worked great !
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Hmm seems non of my hubs is able to backfeed the chromecast to turn it on so no other way than wayting for the Y otg cable...
Male to male usb cable seems to be more exotic part of any household than regular or Y otg
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can you show me a pic of your hub, it might be the one i have, i have this one
So I soldered a male to male usb cable but still no luck - d-link or belkin hubs I have are not able to pass the power to the otg...
Probably no other way than wait for the Y otg...
find a pic on google of your hub, cause if you look on mine the power plug is that little first one on the short side the mini usb , i hooked the unpowered otg cable to that and then to my Chromecast, then i put the usb drive on the big usb port on the bottom and the usb cable that would deliver power to the hub by connecting that one to the usb port on the top port of hub then to my pc. at first i was doing it the other way around and it wouldnt take, i would get those dots and a white screen then once i did it like that it worked.
Yesterday I received a Rocketek Dex station from amazon, I purchased it for 26.99 thought I would post on here because I think its pretty good.
small and cheap it can fit in your pocket dont need to buy that huge Samsung dex station for over $100 either.
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I also use this Bluetooth keyboard/mouse pad to use with the dex, It is one of best I found, because it has metal back very thin, and light. The metal back I never thought would be able to find on a keyboard/mouse like this.
1byone Wireless Bluetooth Keyboard with Built-in Multi-touch Touchpad, Touch Keyboard for Windows / Android Tablet / Galaxy Tabs / Smartphones, Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00VRC6D3S/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_nYXCAbGJ49S96
Agree. I am using it for some time now and have had no issues at all.... Works as Sammy's Dex.
Does it work for Dex? Because lots of the reviews online say no.
I have a KSWNG unit, which looks similar. It works great on my Nintendo Switch, but I am having some issues with it running Dex. It requires power to load Dex. Without power, it only does screen mirroring. When I use external power, my full USB port stops functioning. I can only use either/or.
Yes works with dex, turns on dex on note 8
Are you running stock Samsung firmware?
Is external power required for Dex on your unit?
Can you charge AND use USB while using Dex?
My Note 8 is using CRA9 Oreo, requires external power to turn on Dex (screen mirroring without), and adding power will disable the Full USB port.
So I can do screen mirroring with my keyboard/mouse, OR Dex using the phone as a touchpad.
I am on 7.1.1 I am not sure if it runs without external power.
It has 3 ports 1 usb c to charge 1 HDMI 1 usb
Then a male usb c to connect to the phone
I am asking if you can charge AND use the USB port for external mouse/keyboard.
All of the reviews I've seen/read say that the Rocketek only uses Dex without power, however I think Samsung is trying to kill off these 3rd party adapters by requiring Power during use, which my adapter disables the USB port.
Can you confirm you can run Dex while charging and using a USB mouse?
I just told you it has 3 ports one usb, one usb c, one HDMI, what else would you do with a usb c then to charge it, then a usb c male to plug into phone did you look at the pictures look at Amazon at all or the reviews you can answer your own question
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B0...C_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=dex+note+8
I use this one. It's ridiculously tiny and well made; the USB C that plugs into the note 8 folds into the back of the hub. Works flawlessly with Samsung dex with and without power. I'm on Dr. KETAN'S N5 ROM. I use DEX MAX free app to allow all my apps to display full screen. Everything is perfect.
I have one too. It doesn't show the charging light, but it does in fact charge. I'm using a lightning charger. I also have a K400 hooked up and it works well. I have all 3 8 series phones and it works fine. For sure not as robust as the dock, but I keep mine I a case.
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Using it now. It is a fast charge. I have never used it with a "slow" USB wall wart.
Do any of these support ultrawide monitors (2560x1080)? I have the DeX Station connected to a LG Ultrawide display, and I end up with vertical black bands on both sides.
Or perhaps this is a software limitation, rather than hardware.
I believe it supports same as normal dex, so what ever the normal one can do, 4k I think is possible but could be wrong
It seems interesting. Is it possible to charge the phone while the dock is being used as Dex?
Does this still work? I heard Samsung updated it to no longer work with 3rd party stations.
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Does this still work? I heard Samsung updated it to no longer work with 3rd party stations.
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I'm on January security patch and just used my generic Dex yesterday, also another question above, it (fast) charges at same time when the unit is plugged into a fast charger.
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Do any of these support ultrawide monitors (2560x1080)? I have the DeX Station connected to a LG Ultrawide display, and I end up with vertical black bands on both sides.
Or perhaps this is a software limitation, rather than hardware.
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I have an LG ultrawide and have full screen in dex mode, Note running in high performance mode with whatever screen settings that is, I do get a pop up message about screen settings but it goes away and I have full screen
dogg94 said:
I'm on January security patch and just used my generic Dex yesterday, also another question above, it (fast) charges at same time when the unit is plugged into a fast charger.
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So how is it for you? Do you like it? Is it worth it to you? The whole experience I mean lol.
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I have an LG ultrawide and have full screen in dex mode, Note running in high performance mode with whatever screen settings that is, I do get a pop up message about screen settings but it goes away and I have full screen
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Can you post a picture of your Ultrawide using Dex in 21:9? Is it streched?
Hi guys, i'm going to order port dex support on amazon. but I heard Samsung updated (last patch oreo) in last month to no longer work with 3rd party stations. is it still working with your Note8 ? Looking forward your answer. Thanks.
trislr said:
Hi guys, i'm going to order port dex support on amazon. but I heard Samsung updated (last patch oreo) in last month to no longer work with 3rd party stations. is it still working with your Note8 ? Looking forward your answer. Thanks.
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Running a Note 8 with Oreo and have a generic USB-C to USB dock that I got off of amazon and Dex is working great. Even bought a usb-c extension cable for it (just came today) and it all works brilliantly.