I am seeing google maps using a lot of battery with latitude and history turned off, independently of the rom, if after I reboot I open it, even if I force it stop. This doesn't happen if after a reboot I don't open it. Am I the only one?
I always use network location and I don't want to turn it off. Is there any trick?
Same problem
I have a similar feeling...
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i deleted google maps becouse of that
Tried battery wipe?
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Tried battery wipe?
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Did not, but since if I don't open it after a reboot I don't see it, I can't see how this could help.
The battery life is great without open gmaps (near 70% after 10h with 3g all the time).
louiscypherbr said:
Did not, but since if I don't open it after a reboot I don't see it, I can't see how this could help.
The battery life is great without open gmaps (near 70% after 10h with 3g all the time).
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10hrs of usage?!
After 10 hrs screen off with minimal usage im at around 50% propably!
I'm sure I saw google maps get an update yesterday or today to address the battery consumption problem in Latitude and Places ?
yes but it didn't really fix the issue.noticed the same here, gmaps drains too much battery got some reason.
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langhaardack said:
10hrs of usage?!
After 10 hrs screen off with minimal usage im at around 50% propably!
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Me also on cm or others than civiato's ROM b2b with gueste kernel oc'ed at 1300. Try it for a week and tell me the results.
Well, it looks like the only solution right now is freezing gmaps after using it.
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same here. i have a big battery drain with google maps and other gps-using apps.
sirofpatrick said:
same here. i have a big battery drain with google maps and other gps-using apps.
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It's normal draining battery when you're using GPS. What I'm talking about is the draining with gmaps on background, not while using it.
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louiscypherbr said:
Me also on cm or others than civiato's ROM b2b with gueste kernel oc'ed at 1300. Try it for a week and tell me the results.
Hi,
I tried chivato's ROM and he implemented google maps in data folder (not in system/apps) so google maps are not loadead/active on system startup. How to do that in rebuild v20q ROM? I don't want remove this app completely just not to be in running apps list?
Cheers
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zic1 said:
louiscypherbr said:
Hi,
I tried chivato's ROM and he implemented google maps in data folder (not in system/apps) so google maps are not loadead/active on system startup. How to do that in rebuild v20q ROM? I don't want remove this app completely just not to be in running apps list?
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Just uninstall it with titanium and reinstall from market.
By the way, I tried 20q rebuild and came back to civiato's; its much smoother than 20q
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Nfo somewhere; blatently spying...I did some monitoring and found maps is coming out of sleep to request location. I have to wonder why.
How do we freeze it because this is otherwise a useful app.
The next thing to do would be watching the traffic to see if it'sending that location
Related
ive read of people not being able to update or download google maps. my problem with it is almost every time i download an app from the market google maps downloads instead. or it tires to update. and the app i intended to download does nothing as if i never clicked on it to download in the first place and clicked google maps instead. its like maps just takes over and decides that its going to do what it wants. wtf is the deal?
are you on stock JF6 or what?
oh sorry. i guess some info wouldve helped. im running serendipity 6.4
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oh sorry. i guess some info wouldve helped. im running serendipity 6.4
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hmmm.. i used to run that ROM and i had that problem on the first boot. after that however it went away after i just went to into the market and cancelled the download. As far as the apps not downloading after you press them, i feel like thats a market app issue.. have you tried reflashing to an earlier version of serendipity?
Im on 6.4 and have had no issues with the market or google maps. I have always flashed a freash nand if things start getting funky.
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Ive been using serendipity since out was released. I noticed this happening a few versions back. Maybe since around 6.0. this my second flash of 6.4 cuz I had a brief stint with another rom and had the same issue there.
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The map problem is related to GB ROMs.
The last update on the market for google map will make it take control and restart on its own.
Even if you close it in your running services, it will actually prompt restart before closing = never closes and drains your battery.
BWolf56 said:
The map problem is related to GB ROMs.
The last update on the market for google map will make it take control and restart on its own.
Even if you close it in your running services, it will actually prompt restart before closing = never closes and drains your battery.
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ok thanks but I'm on 2.2.1
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Nobody else has had this problem on 2.2.1?
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Aritearite
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For me it says free when I go to myapps in market. Once installed it is fine.
For me, in my apps it says installed.and that's it.it will still hijack my other app downloads and download itself again..
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I completely removed it. And my massive power drain stopped at the same time??
On gr-12, previously serendipity 6.4 no problems with both
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Buh-bye maps, you will not be missed.
Hello free ram and much better battery life.
Autostars app should take care of the problem of Maps restarting at will.
Google Maps
FYI: Turning off "Use Wireless Networks" in the Location and Security setting appears to keep MAPS from loading in the background, thereby saving some battery. Keeps you from completely deleting the app.
My two cents.
Post here your bugs and maybe solutions.
Bugs i found:
- themes do not work. A FC when clicking on a theme.
- brightness control doesnt work.
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Mod edit : moving this to general post in the same thread or use the general section
I found that I cannot change the notification setting on my O2X using this ROM.
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themes do work, you might want to do a data delete and reinstall the ROM
Google talk video freeze
fc on imediashare.
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fc on google googles
some descriptions still in chinese.(belongs to the german/english rom von Moviestar)
wifi got sometimes error.need restart
the most thinks are cm based so it got the same bugs like the nightlys.
see the cm nighlty bug thread
large data drain on the Android.system process. 100 MB of traffic within 2 days is just unacceptable, probably in conjunction with this about a 4 times as high standy drain than in cm7.1.
When fast scrolling large lists (contacts, music) the letter indicator in the center of the screen gets stuck.
When using an app overriding the screen brightness setting (e.g. GPS Status) the brightness level does not switch back to automatic after exiting the app.
Some widgets are not sized correctly when they are put up on the homescreen.
GPS is somewhat slow, even though the userspace is updated like in cm7.1
Themes app is either force closing when selecting online apps or the preview screen goes blank after a split second showing available themes. This can be circumvented by installing themes manually by downloading them from the miui website.
Thats what I found out so far.
Mertoglu said:
Post here your bugs and maybe solutions.
Bugs i found:
- themes do not work. A FC when clicking on a theme.
- brightness control doesnt work.
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Me too saw FCs while changing themes. Just updating this thread for over-emphasis .
Battery life is dreadful, for me at least.
Apart from that, i've not noticed many bugs
Yes, battery sucker no doubt.
Forced close when i tried to access DND security settings.
Few of the HD games aren't running too..
Asphalt 6 HD, N.O.V.A, Bang Bang Racing, all these HD games.
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Battery life is dreadful, for me at least.
Apart from that, i've not noticed many bugs
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Yes, battery sucker no doubt.
Forced close when i tried to access DND security settings.
Few of the HD games aren't running too..
Asphalt 6 HD, N.O.V.A, Bang Bang Racing, all these HD games.
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nova 2 is working here
Funny enough, I managed to get 9 hours of usage out of 20% battery.
What I did was deny the android system process internet access using the firewall, disabled data when not needed and froze the MIUI messenger as well as antispam and sidekick application.
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Funny enough, I managed to get 9 hours of usage out of 20% battery.
What I did was deny the android system process internet access using the firewall, disabled data when not needed and froze the MIUI messenger as well as antispam and sidekick application.
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How do you deny that with the firewall?
aMpeX said:
Funny enough, I managed to get 9 hours of usage out of 20% battery.
What I did was deny the android system process internet access using the firewall, disabled data when not needed and froze the MIUI messenger as well as antispam and sidekick application.
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Will it not harm the system by denying the android system process access to the internet?
I havent noticed any drawbacks so far. But I'm sure you're right. I'm waiting for arcee to merge the latest kernel update before switching back to miui.
The denial was necessary, because the process was eating away on my data package.
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NOVA 2 is working for me too..
But not NOVA 1.. lolz
2 more bugs, doesn't know if already postet
If you choose another ringtone for SMS or the Alarm Clock it will be replaced by NONE Ringetone.
REALLY NICE
Guess what? 3 hours and 30 minutes of usage, with wifi turned on,
Full charged of 100% dropped untill 30%! Omg....
Viber called for 30 minutes more, dropped till less than 15%!
MIUI 1.7.29 is a battery vampire.... ==
Am i the only one who cant mount? the phone freezes, after a while it just turns off and the screen turns on again but nothing come on it. i have to remove battery and insert again.
Can someone figure out what's wrong and give me a solution ASAP.
If you go into setting and then into the apps folder, you can click on and stop and then disable any apps you don't use, their is a guide somewhere that gives a list of apps you can stop, as you don't want to disable a critical system app, maybe somebody know where it is.
John.
Tinderbox (UK) said:
If you go into setting and then into the apps folder, you can click on and stop and then disable any apps you don't use, their is a guide somewhere that gives a list of apps you can stop, as you don't want to disable a critical system app, maybe somebody know where it is.
John.
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yeah if I could get a link to that guide that would be great
Download Greenify from the Play store. After installing simply add those offending apps (Google Maps is key example of one) to the greenify list within the app and it will suspend activity from that app when you exit and thus it won't produce any wakelocks.
Most effective tool I have ever used for controlling wakelocks and improving battery life.
crushalot said:
Download Greenify from the Play store. After installing simply add those offending apps (Google Maps is key example of one) to the greenify list within the app and it will suspend activity from that app when you exit and thus it won't produce any wakelocks.
Most effective tool I have ever used for controlling wakelocks and improving battery life.
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Im not rooted,and do you think google now is the real problem because since the recent maps update I haven't seen "maps" listed as a wakelock.
I found the list for the one x, but i am sure there is one for the one m7 somewhere.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1681729
John.
racingmatt1 said:
Im not rooted,and do you think google now is the real problem because since the recent maps update I haven't seen "maps" listed as a wakelock.
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I don't use Now because I did find it was a big drain on the battery. Also if I remember correctly with Now enabled it would turn on the gps at regular intervals to record your location even if the user has GPS turned off.
Also personally, I feel that you should root any android device that has an easy root method and can be reset back to stock. With this phone, it is easy to do both.
A bit of a list for the One M7 here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=40677687
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A bit of a list for the One M7 here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=40677687
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I have the sprint version of the htc one,so would that make a difference?
No difference.
John.
racingmatt1 said:
I have the sprint version of the htc one,so would that make a difference?
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Was almost about to start a new thread until I saw this one. This is a screenshot from yesterdays battery but do my wakelocks look excessively high? I just downloaded the wake lock app I can't really post screens of that the data wouldn't be too accurate but here are yesterdays wake locks.
What would you recommend. I am about to download greenify now
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Was almost about to start a new thread until I saw this one. This is a screenshot from yesterdays battery but do my wakelocks look excessively high? I just downloaded the wake lock app I can't really post screens of that the data wouldn't be too accurate but here are yesterdays wake locks.
What would you recommend. I am about to download greenify now
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Those wakelocks are off the charts compared to mine for a day. Which rom are you running? I guess you may have Google Now active as your google stuff is crazy. If you don't use them you should remove or freeze: Twitter, facebook, hangouts, google+
Greenify will help for sure. In a full day ~18 hours, I usually have about 500 application wakelocks (same report from GSam) and over 300 of them are my corporate email client. Android system and Google Services are about 100 per day.
Greenify really helps, but a good custom rom/kernel combo is the key.
I use ViperOne and ElementalX kernel and I overclock CPU to 1.9 and GPU to 450 and I have best battery life I have ever had on the One with any rom. I easily can go 28 hours of medium use with about 5+ hours of screen on time in a single charge.
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Those wakelocks are off the charts compared to mine for a day. Which rom are you running? I guess you may have Google Now active as your google stuff is crazy. If you don't use them you should remove or freeze: Twitter, facebook, hangouts, google+
Greenify will help for sure. In a full day ~18 hours, I usually have about 500 application wakelocks (same report from GSam) and over 300 of them are my corporate email client. Android system and Google Services are about 100 per day.
Greenify really helps, but a good custom rom/kernel combo is the key.
I use ViperOne and ElementalX kernel and I overclock CPU to 1.9 and GPU to 450 and I have best battery life I have ever had on the One with any rom. I easily can go 28 hours of medium use with about 5+ hours of screen on time in a single charge.
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Yeah the Google services wakelocks really do look crazy high how do I know what apps to greenify. I honestly have a minimal amount of apps as my phone is still pretty new and havent gotten all my apps downloaded.
I cannot remember if I had Google now on for that day or not but now I have it turned off and am about to get greenify. As you can see I was only getting 12 hours away from the charger and I think the wakelocks are maybe what were preventing me from getting closer to ~19 I am on viper 1.2.1 stock Kernel
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I don't know which wakelocks you're getting with GS, but I was getting some bad location related wakelocks. I use Google Now and turning off Location Services altogether wasn't an option. So what I did, after searching the BBS threads was to force stop and clear data on these apps:
Google Services Framework
Google Play Services
Maps
Google+
Then I deleted my Google account and signed back in. Whatever was going on, that did the trick.
I m using Sony Xperia TX my drained in 8 hrs, i m using android JB 4.1.2 the android system taking above 50% of battery.
Can anyone help me ???
Thanks.
An Amateurs guide to Battery Saving
1. Disable everything that you do not currently need, such as
- Wifi
- Data connection
- GPS
- Rotation sensor
- Synchronisation, auto-location
- Don't use widgets especially not those which need constant updates
2. Delete / uninstall everything not needed, such as
- Facebook
- Twitter
- Timescape and all it's connectors to email, FB, Twitter, etc
- Gmail (use Email, no need to use Gmail)
- de-install all other Google bloat, such as Now, Hangouts, etc.
Root your phone and uninstall the above and more. Basically get rid of all Sony and Google bloatware. Or alternatively, learn how to flash another already trimmed Rom.
3. Disable everything you may need but you are not sure yet (that's in settings\apps). Install Greenify (download from Google Play), greenify apps that you downloaded.
4. Find a replacement for Task manager WITH option to close all programs at once
5. Generally, switch off auto-functions and use your phone manually, and don't install things which you think only you could use.
6. When you are ready trimming your phone and adjusting it to your needs, charge the battery to 100 % + 2 h. By using the phone normally allow it to deplete the battery uninterrupted, until the phone switches off itself. Repeat a second time. Afterwards the device is calibrated to your usage and battery. By far the biggest battery user will be your screen. Usage values in between 40 - 60 % are normal. At this stage it does make most sense getting used to a somewhat dimm screen. Therefore it does not make much sense to be too obsessed with software battery saving methods.
7. A last tip:
- Don't charge your phone always to 100 %. Charge it to somewhere above 90 %, and let it run down to 20 - 10 % before the next charge. Do a 100 % charge only occasionally.
thanks
thanks dude
peter-k said:
1. Disable everything that you do not currently need, such as
- Wifi
- Data connection
- GPS
- Rotation sensor
- Synchronisation, auto-location
- Don't use widgets especially not those which need constant updates
2. Delete / uninstall everything not needed, such as
- Facebook
- Twitter
- Timescape and all it's connectors to email, FB, Twitter, etc
- Gmail (use Email, no need to use Gmail)
- de-install all other Google bloat, such as Now, Hangouts, etc.
Root your phone and uninstall the above and more. Basically get rid of all Sony and Google bloatware. Or alternatively, learn how to flash another already trimmed Rom.
3. Disable everything you may need but you are not sure yet (that's in settings\apps). Install Greenify (download from Google Play), greenify apps that you downloaded.
4. Find a replacement for Task manager WITH option to close all programs at once
5. Generally, switch off auto-functions and use your phone manually, and don't install things which you think only you could use.
6. When you are ready trimming your phone and adjusting it to your needs, charge the battery to 100 % + 2 h. By using the phone normally allow it to deplete the battery uninterrupted, until the phone switches off itself. Repeat a second time. Afterwards the device is calibrated to your usage and battery. By far the biggest battery user will be your screen. Usage values in between 40 - 60 % are normal. At this stage it does make most sense getting used to a somewhat dimm screen. Therefore it does not make much sense to be too obsessed with software battery saving methods.
7. A last tip:
- Don't charge your phone always to 100 %. Charge it to somewhere above 90 %, and let it run down to 20 - 10 % before the next charge. Do a 100 % charge only occasionally.
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Did your TX have the stamina mode?
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yep..it have the stamina mode. i m using the stamina mode , but still the battery drained within 8 or 10 hours
Geeky Dicky said:
Did your TX have the stamina mode?
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vengatesh2020 said:
yep..it have the stamina mode. i m using the stamina mode , but still the battery drained within 8 or 10 hours
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With stamina mode on, your phone should last a day, at least. But if you keep toggling your phone all the time, 8 hours is good.
Running it 2 hour screen on..cpu speed is 384-12xxmhz but battery cant even last..im just using whatsapp for the first hour and the rest I use to fb and web surfing,does browsing in desktop mode consume more battery??
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vengatesh2020 said:
thanks dude
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There's a thank button for a reason.
Use an app called Greenify and hibernate any apps that can potentially reduce battery life. Facebook is an example.
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vengatesh2020 said:
I m using Sony Xperia TX my drained in 8 hrs, i m using android JB 4.1.2 the android system taking above 50% of battery.
Can anyone help me ???
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Hello I have the same problem, tried alot of thing but android system battery drain persists!
I have betterbattery stats and it says alarm manager is causing alot of wakeups!
any ideas?
XDA00000 said:
Hello I have the same problem, tried alot of thing but android system battery drain persists!
I have betterbattery stats and it says alarm manager is causing alot of wakeups!
any ideas?
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Alarm Manager drain can be avoided by always closing all applications with the back key (not with the home key, as some users do)
Try it, might work!
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WhiteNeo said:
Alarm Manager drain can be avoided by always closing all applications with the back key (not with the home key, as some users do)
Try it, might work!
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Cheers I always close all app by back button..never by Home key...
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XDA00000 said:
Cheers I always close all app by back button..never by Home key...
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Then try removing all bloatware from your system apps.
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Then try removing all bloatware from your system apps.
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Yes I have removed alot of bloatware apps...
but some I'm unsure of, but I have disabled majority of them.
Froze a few via Titanium backup
XDA00000 said:
Yes I have removed alot of bloatware apps...
but some I'm unsure of, but I have disabled majority of them.
Froze a few via Titanium backup
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Hm. Perhaps you froze a wrong app that is now causing a loop of some kind..?
I'm out of ideas, have never seen a battery drain similar to yours.. :/
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Did you disable all kind of sync and alarm option in your applications?
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Did you disable all kind of sync and alarm option in your applications?
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Please clarify how to get into these options?
setting..then...???
Thanks
XDA00000 said:
Please clarify how to get into these options?
setting..then...???
Thanks
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It is not the alarm manger itself which does this, but connected apps and widgets, I think. It can be Google Talk. Or if you have Google syncing constantly enabled, in particular in the instance one of the sync services can not complete it's task bcs it's broken, that causes big battery drain. Or if you have a weather widget which updates frequently especially if it can not bcs you have no data connection. Look for all these things and switch off what you don't need, disable non essential notification, remove hungry widgets or try another one that just keeps the last data displayed as long as there is no connection or shows "no connection", and not keeps on trying. Many apps also offer the possibility to set the auto-update frequency. For example updating a weather app more often than every 2 h does not make much sense.
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Steven How said:
Running it 2 hour screen on..cpu speed is 384-12xxmhz but battery cant even last..im just using whatsapp for the first hour and the rest I use to fb and web surfing,does browsing in desktop mode consume more battery??
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Mobil mode uses about 50 - 100 Mb for my websites, I observed desktop connection uses 200 Mb and more. Sure that will effect battery drain at least indirect.
peter-k said:
It is not the alarm manger itself which does this, but connected apps and widgets, I think. It can be Google Talk. Or if you have Google syncing constantly enabled, in particular in the instance one of the sync services can not complete it's task bcs it's broken, that causes big battery drain. Or if you have a weather widget which updates frequently especially if it can not bcs you have no data connection. Look for all these things and switch off what you don't need, disable non essential notification, remove hungry widgets or try another one that just keeps the last data displayed as long as there is no connection or shows "no connection", and not keeps on trying. Many apps also offer the possibility to set the auto-update frequency. For example updating a weather app more often than every 2 h does not make much sense.
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Mobil mode uses about 50 - 100 Mb for my websites, I observed desktop connection uses 200 Mb and more. Sure that will effect battery drain at least indirect.
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Everything you mentions is off or disconnected.
data connection off, no sync services in background,
Disabled Google apps, talk, hang out ect.
Weather apps updates every 12 hours or unless I manually do it by switching on data connection or wifi..
Then wifi / data connection is off
cheers
Do you think Android System and Mediaserver drain is normal? (the screen was on for almost 3 hours).
antkalaitzakis96 said:
Do you think Android System and Mediaserver drain is normal? (the screen was on for almost 3 hours).
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Which rom are you using?
antkalaitzakis96 said:
Do you think Android System and Mediaserver drain is normal? (the screen was on for almost 3 hours).
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the media server seems normal to me
dotzi75 said:
Which rom are you using?
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Stock rom
looks about right, mine is about the same
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looks about right, mine is about the same
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I don't think that 3 hours of screen using equals with the battery the android system uses.Can you take a screenshot of your drain?
Note I haven't been it a lot but I will be soon and I'll add another screen shot
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I also had a media server drain problem. If you are rooted use the app "rescan media" to disable media server and enable it when needed. As for the Google services i solved that by clearing all data (from play store app too) and it worked fine.... If you have a malfunctioning app that drains battery use greenify and tb to convert system apps to user apps so they can be greenified!
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