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I have used Galaxy SL and am using Galaxy Note.
Many people were and are complaining about Stock Roms, either ICS or GB for both of the phones I use.
They say that Camera has a pink problem, GPS does not lock quickly, Video recording is not good, it is laggy, etc etc.
But same people are dying for CM Roms which have lots of bugs. Even CM 7.2 has wifi and video recording bugs for i9003.
Even stock Roms do not have those problems, and many latest stock roms are really good, people are not happy with them.
I do not see any reason to mention about Note stock Roms, especially ICS kernels and roms. They are very very stable without any bugs.
However, many people bricked their phones while they are trying to flash CM10 to their Notes.
OK. I accept that one year old stock roms were not good as much as they should be. But this is not the case anymore.
But still many people are ready to die for CM even if it has many bugs. They complain for stock but lose themselves for CM
Now, could someone please explain me what makes CM Roms that better? And even if they have lots of bugs people are using them as daily driver?
Regards
Maybe just for fun
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You obviously have not tried Paranoid Android.
ardicli2000 said:
I have used Galaxy SL and am using Galaxy Note.
Many people were and are complaining about Stock Roms, either ICS or GB for both of the phones I use.
They say that Camera has a pink problem, GPS does not lock quickly, Video recording is not good, it is laggy, etc etc.
But same people are dying for CM Roms which have lots of bugs. Even CM 7.2 has wifi and video recording bugs for i9003.
Even stock Roms do not have those problems, and many latest stock roms are really good, people are not happy with them.
I do not see any reason to mention about Note stock Roms, especially ICS kernels and roms. They are very very stable without any bugs.
However, many people bricked their phones while they are trying to flash CM10 to their Notes.
OK. I accept that one year old stock roms were not good as much as they should be. But this is not the case anymore.
But still many people are ready to die for CM even if it has many bugs. They complain for stock but lose themselves for CM
Now, could someone please explain me what makes CM Roms that better? And even if they have lots of bugs people are using them as daily driver?
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CM(At least CM9) is really quite stable on the note, I have never had any problems with it.
I personaly use it as my daily drive for a few reasons:
I find it gives better battery life
I Love the stock ICS look over samsungs touchwiz
CM9 uses much less RAM giving more ram for apps, giving better multitasking and also much more RAM for running a linux GUI
I have used CM roms since my HTC magic CyanogenMod 4 FTW! (infact I might have been running early than that but I really dont remember)
personally ive used CM builds but never felt like ive wanted to use them as my daily drivers because they just lack too many built in features of the stock rom
im not the type of person to get a stripped down rom and download 1000 apps to make it how i want it
id rather use the stock rom, only download 10 apps and have everything there
Mainly it uses a safe kernel which is emmc cap erase command disabled which prevents from our device from bricking.
In CM(/AOSP/AOKP most of the logging/Samsung crap applications were removed so that your phone runs fast. Its just about 140-160 MB. You can feel the difference in size. lol
Its very stable compared to other roms.
You will see a lot of features put it up in rom.
Etc Etc
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You obviously have not tried Paranoid Android.
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1+ touchwiz is only a great ui until you experience something different, something greater.
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as said from other users, best ROM for the International N7000 Galaxy Note is the ParanoidAndroid
I was using aosp in my smaller phones. Galaxy s2 for example because i can mod them like changong dpi and so on, and the stock rpms for gs2 were so bad, but with my new note i think the stock roms are more stable and battery friendly than aosp, also yhe kernel development for aosp isn't so great as fow TW Roms, and this my 1st reason to use stock, you know i was flashing 2-3 kernels/day in my s2
BTW: You can remove all crap in the stock rom to have agood rolunning rom.
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I was using aosp in my smaller phones. Galaxy s2 for example because i can mod them like changong dpi and so on, and the stock rpms for gs2 were so bad, but with my new note i think the stock roms are more stable and battery friendly than aosp, also yhe kernel development for aosp isn't so great as fow TW Roms, and this my 1st reason to use stock, you know i was flashing 2-3 kernels/day in my s2
BTW: You can remove all crap in the stock rom to have agood rolunning rom.
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I think in the same way also.
CM lacks lots of stuff from Samsung craps. That's OK. butn it also lack lots of thing I daily use.
Besides I tried ADW Launcher. It really sucks. Nova is far more better and smoother.
Also some people claim that it drains less battery and it is fast. It is obvious that they did not use Notecore v9 with TW
I thas been 1 day and I still have %70 battery. And can't tell how awesome it is. Just check the thread...
As for ram, my phone uses ram between 500-600 mb. There are still 200 mb rams. Which is fine and enough for me.
Also it is really easy to remove some crappy stuff from samsung when you are rooted. (to be rooted takes only three minutes or maybe less )
It is OK some people like it and use it. I am of course fine with that.
But what I mean is CM is not superior to stock or TW based Roms, at least not anymore...
Regards.
But I cannot understand why people like stcok roms with some modification
its all personal preference.
like spen/ intevration of pen and samsung apps use stock
like rom to be close to android original source and above mentioned advantages use cm9/aoskp. you wont have full spen and other samsung apps.
whichever you like
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baz77 said:
its all personal preference.
like spen/ intevration of pen and samsung apps use stock
like rom to be close to android original source and above mentioned advantages use cm9/aoskp. you wont have full spen and other samsung apps.
whichever you like
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Then the answer is that people prefer it because of their preferences
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No matter what rom i try, i always end up going back to CM.
The main reason i'm on CM is for the speed and the features.
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CM = AOSP. AOSP = Android how it was designed and intended to be.
For me, User Interface is the most important factor in choosing the OS. Android was far behind iOS and WP7. It changed since ICS and now JB made it even better than iOS. Pure awesomeness of WP7 interface is a whole other story, not commenting on the OS itself - its UI is simply amazing. Back to UI preferences...It has to be responsive, fast and well designed ( that means visually attractive and coherent ). For example, TouchWiz is terrible for me, it makes my phone look like cheap chinese rip-off. I'm sorry, that's just my opinion, i don't want to offend anyone. The only overlay i like is Sony's TimeScape, although i still prefer AOSP. Why ? Simply because it's better designed, coherent and smoother - so it makes my user experience a lot more satisfying.
For the Note, best ROM is still Paranoid Rom for me. Firstly because of the safe kernel and secondly I can easily overclock and under volt it without much hassles.
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Well it all depends...when I had the captivate Cm9 was by far the best experience. So I came to the note with the same expectations but sadly cm9 and the likes are still not on par with Samsung ROMs in speed or features.
I still flash newer versions as I expect them to be better at some point but at this time..still not there. I use CleanNote Rom.
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For the Note, best ROM is still Paranoid Rom for me. Firstly because of the safe kernel and secondly I can easily overclock and under volt it without much hassles.
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Which kernel do you use for over clocking?
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Man the X860 is slow compared to my S3, this is the primary device for one of my parent and for them its plenty. But it's slow becoming laggy and outdated and I would like to flash a new ROM tpo make it snappy.
I was hoping for an official CM build, but that does not seem to be the case so can anyone of you recommend a ROM that works will Bell Canada?
Currently using Moto Stock rooted and bloat removed. Also can some one explain this safe strap method, is there no way to flash it like a Samsung or hTC?
Mavrom is pretty good. They probably just need stable and that should do it. And unfortunately we don't have a fully functional ICS yet.
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Man the X860 is slow compared to my S3, this is the primary device for one of my parent and for them its plenty. But it's slow becoming laggy and outdated and I would like to flash a new ROM tpo make it snappy.
I was hoping for an official CM build, but that does not seem to be the case so can anyone of you recommend a ROM that works will Bell Canada?
Currently using Moto Stock rooted and bloat removed. Also can some one explain this safe strap method, is there no way to flash it like a Samsung or hTC?
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The Best Two GB Roms are:
Eclipse 3.0 - Almost no blur
Mav Rom 4.5 - The best of the blur
The Best ICS Roms are:
CM9 ICS Haschode NON KEXEC - It's fairly stable and quick. There is no hardware acceleration, so youtube gets a little laggy, camera is a hack and doesn't fully embrace the it's hardware, chrome does not work.
The 9/5/2012 CM9 Kexec Rom - Almost as stable. Everything works but Camera. The blutooth has been known to cause issues with phone calls if left on and not connected to a headset. Wifi tether also does not work at this time.
Kexec Roms: http://dl.hash-of-codes.com/ROMs/solana/ note CM10's data does not work stay CM9 for now.
There other ICS roms are great but I don't think have been updated recently.
ahh i see i was hoping for a good ICS by now .
What GB Rom is the best I want lag/bug free as possibly, enough for a daily driver for a 40+ non-techy parent can use.
I was reading on Mavrom and it seem the best and it works with CWM which i am so very used to.
@jesusishere
Thats great ICS list so thanks, but can you please link to ROM threads? The ICS won't work as daily drivers because of Camera issues, everything needs to function Bluetooth could care less for. But video, games, phone/gsm, wifi, camera, internal/external SD etc are a must.
So it seems this phone has to stick to GB.
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ahh i see i was hoping for a good ICS by now .
What GB Rom is the best I want lag/bug free as possibly, enough for a daily driver for a 40+ non-techy parent can use.
I was reading on Mavrom and it seem the best and it works with CWM which i am so very used to.
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Go Mav Rom for a non techy parent. It has enough blur to make it easy for someone to use. Also use safestrap. CWM has some issues with the D3. You can follow the latest development on ICS/JB with our main man, hashcode, his twitter.Hashcode. I do not think it will be much longer until he gets the Camera working. After that it's all down hill!
I have XT860 from Bell, Does anyone know how to unlock it ? I want to use it with ROGERS
oh i found unlock code just for $2.3
for best battery life try Maverick Rom, but v4.0. very fast as well.
eclipse 3.0 is faster, but somehow the webdock does not work and battery seems better with mav4.0
my advice: combine it with SSlauncher for a wonderful experience.
bogdan_wrc said:
for best battery life try Maverick Rom, but v4.0. very fast as well.
eclipse 3.0 is faster, but somehow the webdock does not work and battery seems better with mav4.0
my advice: combine it with SSlauncher for a wonderful experience.
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why not Maverick 4.5?
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why not Maverick 4.5?
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4.5 is overclocked, which is worse on battery
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thanks will try.
Hash's CM9 ROM is absolutely wonderful - it even has working HD Codecs, which makes HD media and Netflix possible.
Video works on it now? What about the camera by any chance?!
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Video works on it now? What about the camera by any chance?!
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Camera's still MIA, unfortunately.
This is my first post in this forum and XDA as it is. I have been user of Galaxy S I-9000 for long time, and trought out the history there were many good roms like Darky, DOC's ROM kitchen and others. There was long time, I haven't touched this phone, since I broked the screen and network card. Right now I see, that there are many ROM's that are based on unofficial ICS, JB, and I have one seriously doubt about camera quality in these ROM's-is it the same, as it was, when I bought the phone, or technicly, it's using some kinda android app, that's not optimised for Galaxy S-cause I think, the quality was better with official based ROM's-maybe somebody has converted camera app from 2.3, so we could use it on 4.0 Android versions?
What are the benefits of installing JB on an i9000?
I'm aware the FM radio on JB doesn't work and some other function too....then, it seems that all the sleek design of the new ROM will slow CPU speed - surely, is it worth bothering to install the latest ROMs on near outdated smartphones like the i9000?
I've stumbled on the JW4 stock and represent a worthy alternative to Gingerbread 2.3 - then for the sleek look I'm considering some themes....
Have I missed some relevant facts about the JB 4.2 on the i9000? Right now, I wouldn't bother.
xelaris said:
What are the benefits of installing JB on an i9000?
I'm aware the FM radio on JB doesn't work and some other function too....then, it seems that all the sleek design of the new ROM will slow CPU speed - surely, is it worth bothering to install the latest ROMs on near outdated smartphones like the i9000?
I've stumbled on the JW4 stock and represent a worthy alternative to Gingerbread 2.3 - then for the sleek look I'm considering some themes....
Have I missed some relevant facts about the JB 4.2 on the i9000? Right now, I wouldn't bother.
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Try it and see everything run at 60fps most of the time. It's smoother than my Galaxy S3.
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Try it and see everything run at 60fps most of the time. It's smoother than my Galaxy S3.
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For as far as I know, Cyanogenmod never really got Project Butter off the ground on Samsung devices running Exynos processors, like the i9000. I'm running 4.1 Cyanogenmod as well, and it does seem a tad more smooth, but I've no idea if that's because of Project Butter, or just the fact that it's a very nice android version.
I've just tested JB 4.2....nice and sleek look but not Swipe and what happened to my external SD? no "My File" is found so I can't search...no wonder when I check Storage on Settings gives me an error. The Camera also seems very limited (have I missed something?).
Exactly as I initially thought....
All this hype to get the latest ROMs are mostly superficial fads with no substance - good only for greedy developers and bored teenagers in search of new trills to impress their mates - nah, I like using Swipe and FM radio (and searching my files) - back to JW4.
xelaris said:
The Camera also seems very limited (have I missed something?).
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Yeah. They came up with a neat intuitive interface with 4.2 but stripped out so many features. Honestly who in the right mind thought it was a great idea to get rid of the timer option. I used the 4.2 camera for about a day before I just rolled back to the 4.1 camera
You're comparing a ROM that's barely even alpha. Try CM10 4.1.2 stable. That will give you a better idea of what cyanogenmod is capable of. And you can still install Swype. I'm using it right now.
And don't be a troll, it's not very nice
CM10 powered by Mackay kernel
xelaris said:
I've just tested JB 4.2....nice and sleek look but not Swipe and what happened to my external SD? no "My File" is found so I can't search...no wonder when I check Storage on Settings gives me an error. The Camera also seems very limited (have I missed something?).
Exactly as I initially thought....
All this hype to get the latest ROMs are mostly superficial fads with no substance - good only for greedy developers and bored teenagers in search of new trills to impress their mates - nah, I like using Swipe and FM radio (and searching my files) - back to JW4.
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So what's the intention of this thread then?
Try Mackay ROM or CM10. Both are stable and fluid and you will be happy with them. But if you don't even know how to install Swype you should probably stick to stock.
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Android jelly bean is fantastic because it is faster and smoother. To solve the problem of radio you should download spirit fm radio light that is NOT a streaming app, but uses the FM radio receiver installed by Samsung on Galaxy.
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So what's the intention of this thread then?
Try Mackay ROM or CM10. Both are stable and fluid and you will be happy with them. But if you don't even know how to install Swype you should probably stick to stock.
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in fact I've bothered to install swype by myself - never had to do before the "upgrade"?
An upgrade should include all the best functions - swype represents in my opinion the best way to input text - go figure why the developers forgot about it.
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Android jelly bean is fantastic because it is faster and smoother. To solve the problem of radio you should download spirit fm radio light that is NOT a streaming app, but uses the FM radio receiver installed by Samsung on Galaxy.
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ok, if the FM radio isn't lost then this might save the bacon...the future is radio via data or podcasting but when traveling abroad it might be useful to use FM radio to save data roaming (and power too).
I've tested 4 new ROMs (in 2 days): aosp, aokp, xbean, cm10 - the camera has lost many functions - still, the Galaxy doesn't even offer a flash - so, no big deal there.
The JW4 I'm using right now seems faster than any of the JB tested, but I agree about the new ROMs being smoother and more stylish.
The DSP on offer might be worth upgrading...
There are too many new functions which are a bit too geeky and many customizations are a bit OTT (reminds me of some linux distros)...so, I might be tempted to opt for Slim Bean (jelly bean without the fat)....still, I'll wait a few months
no videocall facility
I belive the custom Roms not support videocall fascilty, (correct me,If I am wrong). But rest everything is OK in JB Roms.
I have tried more than 4 ROMs including latest 4.2, None of othem having videocall button not integrated with .
But there are improvements in audio & video perfomance compare to Stock GB ROM.
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I belive the custom Roms not support videocall fascilty, (correct me,If I am wrong). But rest everything is OK in JB Roms.
I have tried more than 4 ROMs including latest 4.2, None of othem having videocall button not integrated with .
But there are improvements in audio & video perfomance compare to Stock GB ROM.
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Video calling is fine for me on JB.
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Seriously the sms quick reply function is by itself reason enough to go JellyBean.
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Hr Kristian said:
Seriously the sms quick reply function is by itself reason enough to go JellyBean.
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GoSMS supply the same functionality since long ago.
Can JB camera save to external SD? Try saving HD video on limited 8 GB internal storage
U should try "c-rom Mix v8" or "mckay rom build158 or 161,in my opinion its the two best roms available in JB,in McKay's build there is a small difference in smoothness between the two builds..
C-rom v8 is my favorite,its d... good
Just Because...
Because we can. You, good sir, are asking the wrong question..LOL Why wouldn't you want the latest version of android on existing hardware? It is like having the best of both worlds. New Software, same phone.
Imagine putting windows 8 on a 486, and having it run smoothly. That will never happen.... with android on the other hand... okay, perhaps a little exaggeration there, but you get the idea. (Unless you are to young to remember a 486,)
For me personally, it negates the need to buy a $500 - $600 phone, just to have the latest version of software.
I do however, understand your point of view. I hope that I have answered your question thoroughly.
My swype on 4.2.1 works fine. I do have an sdcard 0/1 bug. I consider that perfectly acceptable, in this scenario.
Panorama camera feature is neat. Although it is not something that I can see myself using a whole lot.
Jeremy
I think the choice belongs to everyone to flash JB...or not.
I tried but i'am back on GB with the sauRom V2. The BEST rom ever flashed on my phone ! ! !
I have tried Miui, Cyanogen, Ics, JB...... None of those roms compares to SauRom in my opinion.
Really worth a try ! Smooth, fast, stable, Very good battery life ! !
Since i'am using it, no need to flash anymore !
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GoSMS supply the same functionality since long ago.
Can JB camera save to external SD? Try saving HD video on limited 8 GB internal storage
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Last I checked the Go apps have ads or cost money. This is free, lightweight, and imo, perfect.
Yep, my 4.1.2 cam had external save location, silly my upgraded to 4.2.1 cam and lost it though x)
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Curriosity
Simple!
How much longer can our I9000 still be alive with the newest Android version?
That's most peoples reason for keep on flashing - or at least mine
JB drains battery so fast!
My experience, the battery drains so so fast. I tried some ROMS with JB and I went back to ICS.
Hi guys, if someone could help me with this I would be so grateful!
Few months back, I've installed Jelly Bean on my LG 4X HD through LGPCsuite. It started lagging so much after that update, it's almost impossible to work with it. When I'm trying to call someone it takes about 10 secs to even start calling, not to mention how home screen lags after closing app etc. I've read here, on xda, that the best solution would be to downgrade to ICS. Anyway, I really didn't like ICS; camera is much better on JB then on ICS (it took blurry pics) plus some other things I really like more on JB. I have JB v20b and I was wondering: if I install v20a will lagging be less? I really want to use JB, not ICS. Plus, if someone can tell me how should I do that? Or tell me what would really be best solution. I'm kinda scared of installing custom rom, so I'm trying to avoid that. Plus, I'm from Croatia and could I install EUROPE OPEN ANEUBK VERSION firmware?
Thanks so much, I really hope someone will help me!
Plus, please don't mind if I'm asking some nonsense, I'm really new at this.
That's it. I think 4x is a very bad product. Great specs but very bad OS.
Ics lags to much, mainly on camera, I barely can take photos. Jb lags everywhere.
So no solusion. I've just sold my 4x and changed to L80.. really smooth despite the lower specs.
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Okay, I've been surfing xda forums for the last few hours and I've figured that custom roms aren't so bad. So, can someone suggest me which one is the best for lg 4x hd? Camera is really important for me, so I'm hoping there are custom roms with properly working camera.
Custom roms based on stock/original won't help. The performance is the same.
If you want to be faster, use CM, you can try Xenon rom. But CM always have bugs : sometimes freezes, and dark photos
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Custom roms based on stock/original won't help. The performance is the same.
If you want to be faster, use CM, you can try Xenon rom. But CM always have bugs : sometimes freezes, and dark photos
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but custom roms aren't based on 4.1.2., isn't that right? They're based on 4.3. or 4.4 versions. I've been watching some videos on YT and phones with custom roms are super fast, so I'm confused now
Some are, some aren't. If you look around this forum you'll see that the android version is always in the original post of the ROM thread. Using a custom ROM won't automatically make your phone "super fast", though mine is smoother since I switched from stock. "What's the best xxx" threads aren't allowed on XDA because there is no right or wrong answer: it depends on what you're looking for. I've tried Cyanogenmod 11 and Paranoid Android and found PA to be faster and slightly more stable, but I prefer CM because it gives me better battery life and there are alternatives to the features of PA that made me change (peek and hover) on CM. Look around these forums and see what works for you
A word of advice though: make sure you do your homework before you install it. Read all you can before starting, or you could brick your phone!
I have experience with few P880s. Stock roms arent that bad.
In case you want to flash back stock roms. I give you this link for stock firmware of LG phone http://lg-phone-firmware.com/
With custom roms, I often start with CM, then try others.
Hope this help.
my first android phone, best bang for the buck
this is my first android, and I love it, despite the software issues with Stock LG firmware, whether ICS or JB. P.S. my baseband is v20c (UAE).
Quick note, which may cost you seconds of your time and perhaps solve all your issues before jumping to other, custom ROMs. Have you disabled MLT from the hidden menu? (many users reported that it solves the lags)
Open Dialer -> Dial: 3845#*880# -> MLT (all the way at the bottom of the list) -> disable
I tried it on JB (4.1.2) and it definitely helped with the lags.
But then few days later, I decided I wanna play with Kitkat 4.4.4, and I went for the most customization-rich ROM: Beanstalk, and also added the stock LG camera app from JB. Why? because it is faster and the focus is a little better I think. The only thing that doesn't work in it is that if you switch to front-facing camera, it is just a full green screen. However, the camera app that comes in beanstalk doesn't have this problem with front-facing camera. And, you get to have both camera apps installed, so you can switch and compare quality.
The only trick to get the last build of Beanstalk (4.4.4007 , 14/07/14) booting was to also flash iodak v10 kernel immediately after the BS ROM. Then of course gapps (google apps).
Only issue or bug I noticed is you get an error message about DSP manager crashing when playing music, but the music plays afterwards. This is a known issue and should be fixed in later releases.
Alternatively, if you prefer simplicity over customizations, and rock solid stability over latest/bleeding-edge releases, you could go with the stable version of CyanogenMod 10.1.3
Hope I helped.