I have a Motorola Milestone X, system version 4.5.604, android version 2.3.5 (not rooted).
Under the Storage settings, under the SDCard title it says that I have total space = 1.83gb, available space = 632mb, and under the Application storage it says I have available space = 6.22gb.
When I put music files on the phone it reduces the SDCard available space, and I don't have much of that left!
I guess my question is whether or not there is a way to re-allocate some of the Application storage space to the SDCard space?
Someone told me it looks like the SDCard is an 8gb card and is partitioned into 2 parts, does that appear to be true from what I disclosed?
What would happen if I got a new, bigger SDCard (16gb?) to replace the original one?
Any suggestions are appreciated. Thank you!
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It seems to me that the memory layout on the Captivate isn't in line with other Android devices.
Looking at the specs of the Captivate on www.google.com/phone I am seeing:
RAM: 512 MB
Internal Storage: 16000 MB
Yet in looking at "SD card and phone storage" in settings I see.
Internal phone storage, Available space: 1.60 GB
Internal SD card: 13.03 GB
It seems to me that the 16000 MB is partitioned so here are my questions.
1) Where is the 512 MB and what is it for?
2) Why is it if I install some app that is supposed to show me external SD usage it always instead shows that 13 GB internal flash volume?
And in a broader sense...
3) What is the general memory model for Android? I see RAM, Internal, External. What are they all for?
I'm not sure, but of that internal 16gb of storage space, is it merely partitioning a section of that away for the OS?
That is my question. I don't understand the memory model.
This might not be accurate since I don't own an android phone but i'm bored
1) Where is the 512 MB and what is it for?
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System Ram, used by the OS and apps as volatile memory.
2) Why is it if I install some app that is supposed to show me external SD usage it always instead shows that 13 GB internal flash volume?
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Because the 13gb volume is the "general" volume where you can personally store whatever you want, it functions just like an external Sd card would.
3) What is the general memory model for Android? I see RAM, Internal, External. What are they all for?
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Ram - It is for the OS and apps, they need that as volatile storage to function, nothing is really stored there in the long term, the OS manages that so don't worry about it.
Internal memory - This used for many things, app install and to store files like music, pictures, etc. Internal memory is usually partitioned so that you only have a set amount (probalby that 1.60 you see ) for apps install and the rest if for whatever you want(the 13gb).
External memory - That is just an SD card you can use to expand your internal memory, right now (Android 2.1) it only works to add more space for files(music, photos, docs,) but with with froyo (android 2.2) you'll be able to move installed apps to this external (and the internal 13gb) drive.
Ok here's how it's laid out.
Yes, we have 512MB of RAM. However we as the end user will only see around 300MB of that, give or take 20MB. That's because some of it used by the OS and the GPU for different tasks.
That 16GB of internal storage you see, is partitioned off. We actually get around 13GB to use for ourselves. That 1.6GB you also see starts off as around 2GB (I would assume), and the rest used by the system for the OS, apps, cache, etc...
It's just like a hard drive on a computer in that respect. Sure you but a 1TB hard drive, but you actually only get to use around 850GB of it due to formatting and whatnot.
My problem is that I cant install apps in the 13gb partition, I dont know why..
I tried with:
adb shell pm setInstallLocation 0 this is Auto mode but.. installs in 1.8 partition
..........................................1 this install on the 1.8 partition
..........................................2 this install on the sd card
..........................................3 doesent exist xD but i tried..
so does exist any way to install apps for default in the 13.3 internal SD card partition, or any way to errase the partition??..
Try using "apps2sd" from market. It should be app2sd or apps2sd.
But I don't understand the need to do this, given that Captivate has one of the best memory amounts allocated for system.
Also note that, the apps on SD won't be available during the times when apps like "media scanner" are running.
As I know the total internal space on Nexus is 512Mb. Why I am always getting 196MB AVAILABLE SPACE (with or without APP2SD)? Where I lose 316Mb internal memories?
Well, if you wanted to delete android off your phone, you could have all of that space, but you wouldn't have much of a phone would you?
Android itself has to be stored somewhere, and it's not going to be on the sdcard.
As n1 users the internal memory is one thing that has always plagued us. ~200mb is not much.
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Well, if you wanted to delete android off your phone, you could have all of that space, but you wouldn't have much of a phone would you?
Android itself has to be stored somewhere, and it's not going to be on the sdcard.
As n1 users the internal memory is one thing that has always plagued us. ~200mb is not much.
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ok thanks for the answer but why on my Magic I am getting 188MG availble space exactly as its internal memory? where is the android on my Magic? Why I can increase that 188Mb by using A2SD?
On my Nexus is always 196MB availble space...
They may have advertised the Magic as having XXXMB space to install apps, where the N1 was advertised as having 512MB of internal space. That internal space is divied up between your system (where android is installed), cache (where all temporary files are downloaded - like the apks for market apps before they get installed), and data (where all your apps are installed to and all your settings saved).
And you can't "increase" the space of the magic by using a2sd. What you can do is fake the phone into thinking that your sdext partition is internal memory, so that apps can be installed to it and thus frees up your actual internal storage for the data for those apps. The two most popular ways to do this are DarkTremor's a2sd and S2E. Both require partitioning your sdcard and both require you to have root access on your phone (S2E is advertised as CM7 only, although it may work on CM7-based ROMs).
If you use the built-in app2sd that comes with any Android version 2.2 and up will not utilize the sdext partition on the card. It will just store files on the sdcard in a protected folder. This isn't as thorough as the above methods, as you can't store any apps on the sdcard that contain widgets or tie into the system (like facebook).
Yo XDA members,
i got a small problem and i liked if you helped me out please!
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Device: LG P990
Root: Yes
ROM; Stable 7.2 CM
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Problem: If i watch my internal storage, i see it splits i got a;
- internal storage; 1,5 gb / 1,25gb
- Extra storage: 5,5 gb / 5,5 gb ( .mnt/emmc )
how can i unsplit my internal sd card to just make it look like this: internal storage; 7gb - 6,75gb
I see also i can delete / ungear my ( /mnt/emmc ) but i think i wil loose it if i will do that.
i hope you can help me! thanks!:good:
it might be possible by using a partition layout similar to what phones that come with JB use, but I don't think its a good idea.
you would have to re-partition your internal storage which would wipe your user data, files on internal storage, and installed rom.
but there's a good chance any rom you install will have no idea how to handle that partition layout because they are built for the stock layout, and if it does work the gain in storage space is negligible.
so in short: more work than its worth.
it would be possible with some NVflash hacking, but the point is those 1.5 GB are the /data/ partition, where all your apps are installed, and the rest is the internal SD card where you can store music, pictures etc on.
It neither makes sense to allocate it all to internal storage (since you wouldnt have any space for apps) nor to allocate it all for apps, because you will never fill 7GB just with apps, sicne all the big data chunks are moved to the external SD card (or the internal SD card partition) anyway.
So unless you are running into some serious space problems, I suggest you keep everything as is
Hi i wanna now how can i fusion the "sdcard" with "sd-ext" in JB.. I've saw a lot of phones that the intrenal memory is the ROM memory for us and the microSD card is the sdcard partition .. so my finnaly question is how can we do that or make the ROM mem to be 8Gb and the sd card part to be up to 32Gb
i've been back with some explications of what i wanna do with munt points so let's start...
Firs of all i wanna make one partition of system storge and usb storage to one system storage (a normal partition for android phones) equivalent of 1.97+3.92=5.89Gb as internal mem. See partitions in the print screen
Then i wanna make the "SD card", actualy mounted as "extsdcard", the USB storgage in my case
For explaining you i have here a photo from a Vodafone Smart II (Alcatel v860) that has the partition management that i want
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i've been back with some explications of what i wanna do with munt points so let's start...
Firs of all i wanna make one partition of system storge and usb storage to one system storage (a normal partition for android phones) equivalent of 1.97+3.92=5.89Gb as internal mem. See partitions in the print screen
Then i wanna make the "SD card", actualy mounted as "extsdcard", the USB storgage in my case
For explaining you i have here a photo from a Vodafone Smart II (Alcatel v860) that has the partition management that i want
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As far I know you can only swap places of external and internal memory. You cannot fuse it.
Look here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=36613948
And on that image I do not see any fusion of internal and external memory. It just shows capacity of it. And it is swaped too, internal become external and external become internal.
yes because in that image the internal mem (in our case 8G = 6gb + 2GbROM) it's a single partition and ours is splitted in two the internal and usb storage and in the 2nd picture the sdcard from image is a 2Gb microSD card
Now you understand me
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yes because in that image the internal mem (in our case 8G = 6gb + 2GbROM) it's a single partition and ours is splitted in two the internal and usb storage and in the 2nd picture the sdcard from image is a 2Gb microSD card
Now you understand me
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No, you got it wrong. In second image there is 2GB internal memory that is transformed to be external. And extrenal with 32GB is set to be internal. And that is exacly what is done in this link I give to you.
P.S. And our phone is 8GB=4GB storage + 2GB app partition + 2GB for other system needs (ROM, RAM etc...).
P.P.S. Tell me again, what do you want to do? To make internal memory bigger?
i wanna intall a lot of games and apps that has the data folder in internal mem and the data is big like RF2013 or NFSMW or Asphalt 7 and more games and if i have 16 gb microsd card i wanna use it for this, music and movies
so tell me if its a way to reassamble that two partitions or combine the last two
P.S. I said 6Gb because in the earlier post you can see i calculate the sum of that first 2 partitions firs about 2 Bg like you say and econg about 4 Gb again like you said
Brocky2011 said:
i wanna intall a lot of games and apps that has the data folder in internal mem and the data is big like RF2013 or NFSMW or Asphalt 7 and more games and if i have 16 gb microsd card i wanna use it for this, music and movies
so tell me if its a way to reassamble that two partitions or combine the last two
P.S. I said 6Gb because in the earlier post you can see i calculate the sum of that first 2 partitions firs about 2 Bg like you say and econg about 4 Gb again like you said
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Short, and clear - use this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=36613948&postcount=1017
"changed memory" It will make your external SD to act like internal. And all data for stuff you install will go there.
hello
a friend of mine bought the mini ii (s6500)
the phone memory is (propably) 4gb but he see only 1.8 why is that?? with sdmaid he saw that the data folder is about 1 gb
is there anyone know why it uses so much memory capasity or it hasnt 4 gb as they say? is there any program pre-installed that uses the memory?
thanks
While the total memory is probably 4GB, it is split up.
1.8 for user data on /mnt/sdcard
1 for private app files on /data
some for the rom on /system
and the X somewhere else
you can use this file to change your usbstorage with SDcard
ofcourse it wants ((ROOT)) device.
just download it and copy it to system/etc.
it just works on android 2.3.6