Thinking about buying an internet TV box and as it seems atm everyone seems only to be interested in Apple TV. How does this device stand up against Android TV devices? Anyone used both? Which has been the better? Apple TV requires Jailbreaking to be able to get the best out of it. What about Android TV? Thanks in advance guys, any help with this will be very much appreciated
Both sucks IMO. Raspbarry Pi + TV + XBMC = Better.
Both suck indeed, just hook up your computer to your tv with an hdmi cable or vga whatever or get ho wireless tv connect. Then use ur android or idevice and get an air mouse app
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Get a USB media player, or a DLNA media streamer and get a tablet with HDMI out. Best of all worlds!
I got a Roku box. It has all the stupid apps like Netflix and Hulu, plus Crunchyroll, and it has Angry Birds and a motion remote kinda like the Wii....(Sparky likes it ) Meh. Good enough for me.
Wasn't me!! I didn't do it!
If you have an iPad 2, then you should buy an Apple TV.
Airplay mirrowing is awesome
Apple TV
TudorBlue said:
Thinking about buying an internet TV box and as it seems atm everyone seems only to be interested in Apple TV. How does this device stand up against Android TV devices? Anyone used both? Which has been the better? Apple TV requires Jailbreaking to be able to get the best out of it. What about Android TV? Thanks in advance guys, any help with this will be very much appreciated
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I have owned an ATV for a couple of years.
HUGELY disappointing. And I am an Apple tragic!
It is the content that sucks. In OZ most of the stuff offered is rehashed programs sourced from the USA. I was hoping it would tap into ABC iView. No such like.
I bought a Sony Bluray player and HiFi system. MUCH better value IMHO. It actually connects to the interweb and includes content from Our ABC and SBS as well as a host of others. You can subscribe to movie downloads as well for a price. (I am not interested).
The Apple TV makes buying content really easy .. it just gets it from the iTunes web site.
I would not be bothering to upgrade to slater model that is for sure.
Sorry. Know nothing about Android TV. If it is anything like my Galaxy Ace it will probably keep running out of memory.
I use me PS3 at the moment and its lack of format support really bugs me. So I've started looking for a new streaming device and though Google TV was interesting but I'm not paying over £160 for it. I'll be waiting for it come down before I look at it again
Hey there,
I just want to tell you that Android Transporter is out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=PsLb-nDXUyQ
http://esrlabs.com/android-transporter-for-the-nexus-7-and-the-raspberry-pi/
I would love to check it right now. But working...
Would love to see some comments from someone who checked it out.
fryroyal said:
Hey there,
I just want to tell you that Android Transporter is out.
http://esrlabs.com/android-transporter-for-the-nexus-7-and-the-raspberry-pi/
I would love to check it right now. But working...
Would love to see some comments from someone who checked it out.
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Do you actually need a projector? And a Rasperry PI?
I don't quite understand this I think
Wilks3y said:
Do you actually need a projector? And a Rasperry PI?
I don't quite understand this I think
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It`s like a self made Nexus Q.
The Raspi is essential.
Every Screen would work which has a component or HDMI interface.
I think as long no Miracast or Nexus Q is available ìt`s awesome.
fryroyal said:
It`s like a self made Nexus Q.
The Raspi is essential.
Every Screen would work which has a component or HDMI interface.
I think as long no Miracast or Nexus Q is available ìt`s awesome.
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I would be willing to get a Rasperry pi to do it, but could you put a HDMI cable into the rasperry, and then plug that into the TV and do it that way?
Or is the Projector essential also?
THANKS MATE !
fryroyal said:
It`s like a self made Nexus Q.
The Raspi is essential.
Every Screen would work which has a component or HDMI interface.
I think as long no Miracast or Nexus Q is available ìt`s awesome.
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Is it really the same as the Nexus Q? My reason for wanting to buy a Nexus Q (which isn't available in the UK), is as a party jukebox music hub, but reading the Android Transformer website, it doesn't seem to do much other than movie streaming...
The closest I have found is PlayMySong Android app.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.playmysong.android&hl=en
However it's in rather a poor state of repair, the dev, a hipster it seems, focusing on Spotify...
Anyone know any alternatives?
What with miracast?
Wilks3y said:
I would be willing to get a Rasperry pi to do it, but could you put a HDMI cable into the rasperry, and then plug that into the TV and do it that way?
Or is the Projector essential also?
THANKS MATE !
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No projector needed. Any display with hdmi would do it too. Even old tv`s would work bacause of the component interface of the raspberry.
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Is it really the same as the Nexus Q? My reason for wanting to buy a Nexus Q (which isn't available in the UK), is as a party jukebox music hub, but reading the Android Transformer website, it doesn't seem to do much other than movie streaming...
The closest I have found is PlayMySong Android app.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.playmysong.android&hl=en
However it's in rather a poor state of repair, the dev, a hipster it seems, focusing on Spotify...
Anyone know any alternatives?
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No it`s not the same as the Nexus Q. It`s just streaming the screen content from your nexus 7 to a display.
fryroyal said:
No projector needed. Any display with hdmi would do it too. Even old tv`s would work bacause of the component interface of the raspberry.
No it`s not the same as the Nexus Q. It`s just streaming the screen content from your nexus 7 to a display.
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Great thanks bud, currently bidding on a Raspberry Pi as we Speak
why do i need an extra firmware on my N7?
some software for windows/linux would be fine - already have a htpc.
I prefer using the YouTube app on the ps3 control by the nexus 7
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You need extra firmware because they are trying to get the lowest latency possible so it just being an app wouldn't do. Although they didn't mention gaming in the youtube demo so I assume in it's first version it isn't capable of that yet.
I'm hoping they (or someone) can make a patch for other roms and I also hope this becomes a common feature for all roms.
Yes this is very similar to miracast and they even said when the miracast spec is finalized, they will modify this to be in spec.
Yes you currently need a raspberry pi, but they might write a linux client down the road. Hopefully other projects start on that, maybe a windows client too.
cant you just twonky your photos/vids onto your tv
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You need extra firmware because they are trying to get the lowest latency possible so it just being an app wouldn't do.
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Ah ok, thank you!
I talked to the devs a couple months ago when it was only working on the Nexus S. They said you can capture the stream using VLC as well, but it is complicated to set up.
When I get my replacement N7 I'm definitely working on that!
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I'm surprised some people are dismissing this. The nexus Q only streams content that you have in google play, it streams nothing from your actual device. Twonky et al stream stuff to a media capable device (e.g ps3) in formats that the receiving device support. Your ps3 can't play that mkv file? Well it's not playing. ps3 doesn't support the subs you have? You're not going to see them. Want to stream a game to your ps3/tv? Not happening.
Think of this more like wireless hdmi. Whatever is on your device you can stream to your large display. It's basically miracast but it's available now. In their earlier demos they demo'd streaming games but I guess/assume they haven't gotten the latency low enough yet.
And as another mentioned, you may be able to stream to a pc with vlc or another player. The main thing is hardware decoding on the pc end for lowest latency. Not sure what decoder chip the pi has but if that was in a pc already, it would make a port easier. So down the road, a pi wouldn't even be needed, not for streaming to a pc hooked up to a large display anyway.
Two things bugged me about the nexus 7: no hdmi and no sdslot. This would solve one of those issues.
Again, I hope this spreads to the other roms and becomes a default option that all of them have.
I was reading more on their website and the current transmit time is around 200 ms which is a little disappointing for games anyway. But another cool featue is it utilizes android beam to stream to another android device.
I have the same functionality with my Galaxy Note 10.1 to my Samsung LED TV... It's a cool feature.
I've already got two Raspberry Pi's... will be looking at this tonight.
See it clears the Nexus 7 but not sure if that is the unlocking of the bootloader (which is already done by me) or also the software. Will look when I get more time.
Got the RPi's for this function originally!
this is cool right now i send youtube/etc from n7 to my rasbpi xbmc using the yatse remote app...
hope they build this into one of the pi xbmc builds...
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This cements my decision to buy a Rasp Pi, don't forget to update the firmware to allow official overclocking!
http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/2008
Lastly, does anybody know if it upscales to 1080p, or is limited to the Nexus's default resolution?
It would be interesting if it could upscale to a higher resolution but I kind of doubt it. My understanding is it's basically making a video on the fly of whats on your screen and then decoded on the other end. So I would think it would be 1:1 regarding resolution. However, it would be nice if there was a option to lower resolution to try and lower latency or increase framerate for gaming. Might not hurt the image too much although text might appear more fuzzy. But there may be a performance penalty simply by scaling the source image.
I don't currently have a pi yet but if anyone has tried it let us know how it went.
Oh, and I didn't notice you can already use this with vlc
vlc rtsp://<Asus-Nexus-7-IP-Address>:9000/android.sdp.
Too bad it doesn't transmit sound yet. Hmm, I do wish it was an app but understand why it's built into the rom. Given this was released same day as 4.1.2 I assume this is built on 4.1.1 but I don't see that mentioned on their site.
Yesterday, my Chromecast was delivered to my office via OnTrac. I was showing it to a friend and trying to explain it. We couldn't see it in action and I was only talking about it via what I'd heard on the Internet. I had a hard time explaining it and she just waved me off and said, "I can do all that with my BluRay player and it only cost $65 for a lot more functionality."
At the time I didn't have a good comeback because I hadn't used it. Then I took it home and saw why this is better than any "smart" BR player or TV or AppleTV or Roku device. I've kinda made a mental list to help me explain it to others. Here's the list. I was hoping you would help by adding to the list....
- No keyboard needed. Have you ever tried to search for something via a smart TV or BR player? Using a remote as a keyboard is a pain in the butt. People do it once or twice and give up. Using the ChromeCast (CC) eliminates the remote and lets you do all of the typing on your familiar phone or tablet.
- The ChromeCast picture quality in Netflix is 1080p. It's the first Netflix implementation of 1080p. Picture quality is stunning.
- You want to see Facebook on the big screen? Especially for photos and videos? Just use your laptop.
- What's that? You're in a hotel and want to watch a streaming football game on the Pac-12 network but the hotel doesn't offer it? Whip out your PC and stream the game via CC.
- It only cost me $11
- Open for developers. The possibilities are limited by hardware as opposed to some company's rules and need to keep things closed.
basically, Chromecast is an extension of your phone. (media) things that you want to do on your phone, you can "forward" it to the big screen (aka your TV)
it has a simple interface and little to no learning curve if you know how to use your phone (and these UI are typically better than your smartTV remotes)
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- The ChromeCast picture quality in Netflix is 1080p. It's the first Netflix implementation of 1080p. Picture quality is stunning.
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not true
http://www.engadget.com/2013/01/08/netflix-super-hd-3d-streaming/
- It only cost me $11
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only if you discount the netflix cost(i.e. you are already a netflix subscriber paying)
you can't get the deal anymore
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- Open for developers. The possibilities are limited by hardware as opposed to some company's rules and need to keep things closed.
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i haven't seen them releasing the chromecast OS/kernel source yet... that would be a lot helpful
..... Are there way to many local media casting apps?
It seems another one pops up every few days.
I am all for a free market but, c'mon, let's get some originality!
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Nothing wrong with it, in my opinion. One of them might come up as the ultimate Chromecast app. So far for me, top stop is reserved for BubbleUPnP, but I would change in the heartbeat if something better comes out (tough ask).
abuttino said:
..... Are there way to many local media casting apps?
It seems another one pops up every few days.
I am all for a free market but, c'mon, let's get some originality!
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I was about to post the same thing. So far it has been very redundant and underwhelming. We need mirroring ASAP. And I'm still waiting for that app that makes me say, "Wow, I never thought of using the chromecast that way!"
Don't get me wrong, I love my chromecast. Best bang for the buck in the history of computers/electronics. I'm just spoiled. LOL!
I've never been opposed to choice. In fact it's why I own Android products and not an iPhone.
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I stated that in my post. I am all for free market.
I would just hope that someone can think of something better than all these local media streamers.
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abuttino said:
..... Are there way to many local media casting apps?
It seems another one pops up every few days.
I am all for a free market but, c'mon, let's get some originality!
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I think it's just a matter of those apps being the most logical early adopters for CCast support cause once one media player supports CCast the rest have to make sure to follow or lose marketshare.
And I wouldn't discount Google and the Whitelisting for reasons why we aren't seeing more innovative Apps for the CCast.
Players are pretty straight forward and other Apps are probably getting a bit more scrutiny from Google before getting approved for Whitelisting since those operations actually require a more complex code on the CCast side than the Local Player apps do.
The only thing that I'm disappointed in is the fact that none of the Local Stream Devs are doing much to expand the capabilities of the player on the CCast side. Bubble has probably done the most with it's subtitle support, and Plex's latest release has added a ton of features including Music Photo and some Eye Candy during navigation.
The Most popular Android player apps were popular due to the extra container and codec support they had but unless they can add that support to the CCast side player (difficult I know) their supporting CCast really isn't going to help them retain Market.
As for Mirroring you probably have two forces at play holding it up.
First the Operating System support has to be there which means only devices with 4.2.x or higher will likely be able to run it,
and Second would be the security issues (@bhiga mentioned early on) that could be triggered by some malware that could trigger your unit to mirror to someone else and violate privacy.
Even if someone finds a way to do Mirroring well I would expect Google to go over it with a fine tooth comb before they whitelisted it and lets be honest they may NEVER allow 3rd party Mirroring Apps and prefer to control that function all on their own. Perhaps as part of future versions of Android which currently the SDK seems to have the code for it but is not being used by anyone at the moment.
So I have a Vizio Co-Star Google TV. and it seems to me that well Google TV is dying. I heard that an update was going to come out for it to add Chromecast. I haven't seen it happen yet. Does anyone know if that is going to happen? Or has anyone found a way to do it on the forum? I have tried searching and I haven't found anything. Hope someone could help me out. Thank you all for even reading this.
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So I have a Vizio Co-Star Google TV. and it seems to me that well Google TV is dying. I heard that an update was going to come out for it to add Chromecast. I haven't seen it happen yet. Does anyone know if that is going to happen? Or has anyone found a way to do it on the forum? I have tried searching and I haven't found anything. Hope someone could help me out. Thank you all for even reading this.
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Be Patient as there is a slim chance that Google TVs may be upgradable to Android TV at some point. But that won't come out until Android L is officially released I believe.
You may see it in new TVs sooner and in the end the manufacturer of your TV will be the end determining factor on if your unit can be upgraded or not.
Thanks Asphyx.
My Google TV isn't a TV it is a Vizio Co-Star and its like a box that has an HDMI in and out. It has an over lay on my TV that I like so much. thats why I do not like the Chromecast dongle. I would have to change inputs all the time. With the co-star i do not have too. But I seem to be missing out on things like HBO Go and other apps that are no longer getting support. I should say the whole system doesn't seem to be getting much support any more.