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Hello
I'm waiting for my new Incredible S to arrive shortly and in the meantime I'm reading the user manual, I'm new to Android coming from Windows Mobile world.
Question: if I have backupped my applications to the memory card, in case of an hard reset, is there a way to reinstall them without passing through AppMarket? I have not found any File Explorer or Application Manager included in the ROM... are you obliged to connect to internet and download them?
Thanks
You can use Titanium Backup to back up and restore your apps.
They are not passed through the Android Market.
I do recall the app requires root, but that will be possible soon and is easy to do.
stefanospizzica said:
Hello
I'm waiting for my new Incredible S to arrive shortly and in the meantime I'm reading the user manual, I'm new to Android coming from Windows Mobile world.
Question: if I have backupped my applications to the memory card, in case of an hard reset, is there a way to reinstall them without passing through AppMarket? I have not found any File Explorer or Application Manager included in the ROM... are you obliged to connect to internet and download them?
Thanks
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Hi there, I hope you will enjoy android!
There is indeed no file explorer installed on the Incredible S.
And yes, you will have to register your google account to access the market to download a file explorer (Astro File Manager for example)
TimMun said:
Hi there, I hope you will enjoy android!
There is indeed no file explorer installed on the Incredible S.
And yes, you will have to register your google account to access the market to download a file explorer (Astro File Manager for example)
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Hi!
Thanks for your prompt answer! I suspected that after reading many threads on this matter. It seems a sort of limitation, I mean, having an SD card with your backup data and needs to connect to internet to download a file manager to install them..
But ok, this is the way it works
please use the ES File Manager .GO Android Market search "ES"
If you really wan't to avoid android market, you could usb adb (android debug bridge) to install titanium backup and then restore your apps. Or you could use adb to install certain apk's (apps are always .apk) you stored on your pc.
simple commands like
adb install C:\bla\bla\*.apk work like a charm
so if you download a filemanager, say "filemanager.apk".
you can give the command
adb install C:\bla\downloads\filemanager.apk
and it will install it on you phone after which you can acces all your files directly on your device.
You will need the SDK and some more info
If you want to use the adb, cd to \platform-tools\
But all this will be clear after a few hours of reading, trial and error
Welcome to Android.
DaanJordaan said:
If you really wan't to avoid android market, you could usb adb (android debug bridge) to install titanium backup and then restore your apps. Or you could use adb to install certain apk's (apps are always .apk) you stored on your pc.
simple commands like
adb install C:\bla\bla\*.apk work like a charm
so if you download a filemanager, say "filemanager.apk".
you can give the command
adb install C:\bla\downloads\filemanager.apk
and it will install it on you phone after which you can acces all your files directly on your device.
You will need the SDK and some more info
If you want to use the adb, cd to \platform-tools\
But all this will be clear after a few hours of reading, trial and error
Welcome to Android.
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Hello!
thanks for your info. I was actually playing with adb and see it is very powerful. But you need the pc connected to your phone of course and again it seems not a so comfortable solution. I find a little bit curious not having an application installer or file explorer embedded in the system.
About the backup, I know that Tytanium need root privileges, correct? As far as I know no root procedure are still available on Incredible S. But, will tytanium allow to select what you want to restore? Maybe root is not necessary is you want to restore your application and not system files
Thanks
stefanospizzica said:
Hello!
thanks for your info. I was actually playing with adb and see it is very powerful. But you need the pc connected to your phone of course and again it seems not a so comfortable solution. I find a little bit curious not having an application installer or file explorer embedded in the system.
About the backup, I know that Tytanium need root privileges, correct? As far as I know no root procedure are still available on Incredible S. But, will tytanium allow to select what you want to restore? Maybe root is not necessary is you want to restore your application and not system files
Thanks
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Yes, with titanium backup it is possible to select only certain apps that you wan't to restore.
It is indeed strange that HTC doesn't ship their android devices with a file manager, I recall my Hero didn't have one too. My Galaxy S does, although it's extremely basic.
I think after a few weeks when the first custom roms come out they will probably have a file manager installed in them. Until then I would recommend Linda Filemanager or OI Filemanager from the market, they are both free and quite powerful.
Cheers,
DaanJordaan
Regarding Titanium Root requirements. It does allow you to select between applications to restore, but the root check at start-up means you can't even access the backup/restore screen if your device isn't rooted.
It would be interested to see if a temproot is sufficient to restore certain apps. Something for me to try when i get home
As for the file manager... i think it was a concious decision to keep the device consumer focused. HTC has changed much in the last 2 years and definitely closed a lot of doors/windows they had open to devs and geeky consumers.
Bantu85 said:
Regarding Titanium Root requirements. It does allow you to select between applications to restore, but the root check at start-up means you can't even access the backup/restore screen if your device isn't rooted.
It would be interested to see if a temproot is sufficient to restore certain apps. Something for me to try when i get home
As for the file manager... i think it was a concious decision to keep the device consumer focused. HTC has changed much in the last 2 years and definitely closed a lot of doors/windows they had open to devs and geeky consumers.
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Hello
what does temproot means? How do you log on as temproot?
Let me know about your trial...
Thanks
I've used the miui rom it was a laggy experience
but i really like the miui music it's easy to use and it have some awsome stuff
now i use the SH rom and i try to install miui music apk
but after he finished to install nothing happend like the apk not install at all
eaven in the manage apps i don't see it
it's possible to get this?
sorry for my bad english
You need to push it to /system/app/ use adb or root explorer.
Tnx man every day I learn something new about android..
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DrFredPhD said:
You need to push it to /system/app/ use adb or root explorer.
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Dont work, I get FC when installing.
hackeron said:
Dont work, I get FC when installing.
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I use a free app called File Expert. Put the .apk on your SD card, simply open File Expert, browse to the location of the APK, and click it to install. No need to push it to any specific directory.
Well to get a long story short,im not a complete noob in the rooting,optimising,flashing bussiness.
So dont tell me flash this kernel or this stock rom,or this or that.
The problem after hours of searching is a bad app.
I have bought over 500 apps cause i want to support the community.
So,when i restore all my apps,when the phone starts,after the home screen loads AT THE MOMENT WHERE IN TOUCHWIZ OR ADW OR WHATEVER THE APPS ARE FINALLY LOADED
REBOOT,hot reboot most of the times...
I tried everything...startup managers to block everything and i mean everything...
Rescan media root app to stop scanning of sdcard...
Everything,no matter if it froyo,ginger,ics,stock,rooted or WHATEVER.
Of course i can install one app at a time an reboot,to see what happens but that will take ages and also maybe one app 'hit' with another...
So help me find the bad app...
I am no noob but i am no pro either...
So how do i take a logcat? Will that help either way?
Do i have to use adb?
help....
You are kidding right? You have 500 apps installed at the same time? Why on Earth? I think you are lucky the phone even tries to boot...
On to your problem at hand - no one here will be able to help you with the info you provided.
I thought their was like a 30 app limit to android?
Adb is your best bet.
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kylew1212 said:
I thought their was like a 30 app limit to android?
Adb is your best bet.
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Yes,i have so many apps and i want to find which app 'collides' with another or at least which app causes problems.
I used logcat with semaphore kernel and i have taken out some txt files just before the soft reboots...
How adb will help me.
I will find how to install adb but what then?
What command should i use?
And the phoen will be open?In recovery? What?
Please help....
karapoutsoglou said:
Yes,i have so many apps and i want to find which app 'collides' with another or at least which app causes problems.
I used logcat with semaphore kernel and i have taken out some txt files just before the soft reboots...
How adb will help me.
I will find how to install adb but what then?
What command should i use?
And the phoen will be open?In recovery? What?
Please help....
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Well you certainly need apps 2 SD ... but you probably already have that.
To use adb, download it firstly. Its in the Google developer tools.
Once downloaded open terminal. Alt+ctrl+t. Use CD to change to the directory that contains adb in the platform tools. Once your in the folder containing adb, type "./adb logcat" without the quotes. This is for a computer running Ubuntu Linux also
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kylew1212 said:
Well you certainly need apps 2 SD ... but you probably already have that.
To use adb, download it firstly. Its in the Google developer tools.
Once downloaded open terminal. Alt+ctrl+t. Use CD to change to the directory that contains adb in the platform tools. Once your in the folder containing adb, type "./adb logcat" without the quotes. This is for a computer running Ubuntu Linux also
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thanx for the response.
i have set adb succesfully and i see the logcat on my cmd window running like hell most of the time.
i read that you can use some commands like -w -e etc to narrow the results to important messages? is that correct?
if yes,how you can do that? i mean the full command adb logcat....etc
thanx in advance
karapoutsoglou said:
thanx for the response.
i have set adb succesfully and i see the logcat on my cmd window running like hell most of the time.
i read that you can use some commands like -w -e etc to narrow the results to important messages? is that correct?
if yes,how you can do that? i mean the full command adb logcat....etc
thanx in advance
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Unfortunately I have very little adb experience...
Maybe try something like the same command you used
"./adb logcat"
I guess going by what you're saying you could try something like
"./adb logcat -w" try that then maybe replace the w with e..
Keep in mind these are just guesses because I do not know for certain
I will research as soon as possible and write a quide for it as this can benefit lots of people
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kylew1212 said:
I will research as soon as possible and write a quide for it as this can benefit lots of people
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thanx.
i had the same in mind.maybe something good can come out of this
Another way would be using ddms - connect your phone in debug and run ddms (it's included in the SDK Tools). It provides an interface to browse your device's logs and filter them according to your needs. I think you'll be able to locate that one which explains why your phone is crashing.
On second thought however - is it possible for you to turn the debug on?
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Another way would be using ddms - connect your phone in debug and run ddms (it's included in the SDK Tools). It provides an interface to browse your device's logs and filter them according to your needs. I think you'll be able to locate that one which explains why your phone is crashing.
On second thought however - is it possible for you to turn the debug on?
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thank you!
great idea,i will test it
yes,i can turn the debug on,because the phone crashes just when all the apps are loaded in the drawer.
it must be a bad app because i used to have many apps since froyo times and no problem.
like 500...and the phone was fast.
i really want to find that bad app and kill it
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wow,ddms is a dream! thats what i was looking for!!!
thank you
Sorry for the double post but i thought it needed a single post.
Well,the problem is fixed with the help of you guys!!!
I was getting a hell lot of warnings about watchdog_n and stuff.
I googled it and appeared that a whole bunch of people had the same problem especially with nexus s etc.
They said it was due to some crappy app wanting to auto-sync.
So i did a wipe cache,wipe dalvik cache,fix fc and then when the phone rebooted i disabled the auto-sync.
Guess what,no more loops and soft reboots!!!
I still dont know what app is causing all the problems and propably never will,if you thing that the same apps in my tablet dont cause a thing,but after the auto-sync off the problem is gone.
Good thing though i dont need auto-sync cause its not the best solution...
Hi there, when i browse play.google.com and i find an app i want to install i can just click it and it will install itself on my tablet.
A nice feature and i wonder if there exists any tool or maybe a site that does the same for .apk's i have already on my PC?
Try "MoboRobo", software that installs on a windows PC...let you load anything via the PC.
Videos, music, apps, etc...
Enjoy.
ZeroZorro said:
Hi there, when i browse play.google.com and i find an app i want to install i can just click it and it will install itself on my tablet.
A nice feature and i wonder if there exists any tool or maybe a site that does the same for .apk's i have already on my PC?
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If you are command line savvy then a simple way may be to use 'adb push' to copy the apk directly to /data/app or wherever.
Or for multiple apps:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1835732
And also a really simple methid is to have adb and the app in ths dame directory and run adb install app.apk
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Total Commander for windows with ADB plugin
Re: Whatsapp working on the hp touchpad
Well, thank you for the reactions, but this is not what I meant.
I was talking about installing from a PC without wires.
At the moment I mostly use dropbox or box.net to upload the apk's to, then installing with ES file explorer.
I used to use Samba filesharing too.
But Googleplay manages to let me click on install and instantly installs it on my Android device, I don't think that your options work that way, right?
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Hello all,
I have been creeping these forums for quite some time, but this will be my first post since I can't seem to get sideloading to work on my Galaxy Gear.
First of all, it was very hard to find the apk file i wanted (fat finger calculator), so I settled with an apk file for a calculator another helpful member developed himself. It was very easy to download, compared to other popular free apps. I don't understand why people can't upload the apks of other apps just liek he did.
I went through the steps to be able to sideload, but immediately hit a snag because my gear didnt have the usb debug option. I managed to find a solution by tapping my version number seven times (?). Everywhere else I didn't see people having this problem, or describing it in how to guides, very strange indeed..
Sideloading apps to the gear is described as "very easy", but as I finally got to the step to sideload the apk file in cmd after the above procedures I get an error that nobody has brought up as a potential problem, nor a fix for it. Hence this post.
I use the command: adb install C:\Users\SP Gaming I\Desktop\samsung\calculator.apk
and I get the error: too many files specified; only takes APK file and verifier file
Sideloading isnt as easy as it is described in countless sources, and there isn't a good, accessible step by step guide. Not that I could find anyway. I dont want to use any third party applications, and would really like to sideload through cmd and adb.
Can someone help me with this last obstacle i ran into? I can't find any information on what I am doing wrong. The app should be able to install with this command, no? I have the drivers and ADB. What am I doing wrong?
I really need a simple calculator on my gear, it would be so nifty in my everyday work/life. Please someone, help me!
-edit lol, before posting this, I wanted to try to install it from a simpler path: c:\calculator.apk
this actually did the trick and I managed to install the app! however, maybe someone will have use for my post since I encountered so mnay snags..
It is not easy....it is EXTREMELY easy. If you are running Null rom just use usb cable tu put the apk on you gear and then with any file manager install. Or I have also used the Google Play store on my PC and sent it directly to my Gear.
Do you have gapps?
Are you running null?
cjakobp said:
Hello all,
I have been creeping these forums for quite some time, but this will be my first post since I can't seem to get sideloading to work on my Galaxy Gear.
First of all, it was very hard to find the apk file i wanted (fat finger calculator), so I settled with an apk file for a calculator another helpful member developed himself. It was very easy to download, compared to other popular free apps. I don't understand why people can't upload the apks of other apps just liek he did.
I went through the steps to be able to sideload, but immediately hit a snag because my gear didnt have the usb debug option. I managed to find a solution by tapping my version number seven times (?). Everywhere else I didn't see people having this problem, or describing it in how to guides, very strange indeed..
Sideloading apps to the gear is described as "very easy", but as I finally got to the step to sideload the apk file in cmd after the above procedures I get an error that nobody has brought up as a potential problem, nor a fix for it. Hence this post.
I use the command: adb install C:\Users\SP Gaming I\Desktop\samsung\calculator.apk
and I get the error: too many files specified; only takes APK file and verifier file
Sideloading isnt as easy as it is described in countless sources, and there isn't a good, accessible step by step guide. Not that I could find anyway. I dont want to use any third party applications, and would really like to sideload through cmd and adb.
Can someone help me with this last obstacle i ran into? I can't find any information on what I am doing wrong. The app should be able to install with this command, no? I have the drivers and ADB. What am I doing wrong?
I really need a simple calculator on my gear, it would be so nifty in my everyday work/life. Please someone, help me!
-edit lol, before posting this, I wanted to try to install it froma simpler path: c:\calculator.apk
this actually did the trick and I managed to install the app! however, maybe someone will have use for my post since I encountered so mnay snags..
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dragoncius said:
It is not easy....it is EXTREMELY easy. If you are running Null rom just use usb cable tu put the apk on you gear and then with any file manager install. Or I have also used the Google Play store on my PC and sent it directly to my Gear.
Do you have gapps?
Are you running null?
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For the uninitiated, you are jumping over a few steps that may seem easy and obvious to you, but not for the first timer. Did you read my thread?
First of all, how would one get a hold of the apk file one would need for the installation process? All links i can find routes me to the google play store. If i press install there, it asks me which device I want it on, and can only find my mobile phones in that drop down list. It doesn't give me a raw .apk file. After some googling there seem to be some plugin for chrome to do it, but I run Firefox and I don't want to install chrome on my machines for various reasons. ALso by looking on the guide to fetch the apk with that plugin, it doesnt seem as easy as using any other plugin, I have to input my device id and things like that. Atleast a few steps only there to get the desired apk file downloaded.
I want to quote you again: "It is not easy....it is EXTREMELY easy. If you are running Null rom just use usb cable tu put the apk on you gear and then with any file manager install. Or I have also used the Google Play store on my PC and sent it directly to my Gear."
Oh lawdy, if it was this easy I would have had my calculator on my gear one hour ago, the moment I started researching if I could get a calculator. "Just use USB cable". On you it sounds like it would find the apk, download it, install it on my gear, all this automatically, only by plugging my gear into my computer with an USB cable. Maybe you missed that I didn't even have the USB debug option under "more info", under settings. Nowhere I read initially, it said that I had to go to dev mode by tapping my version number 7 times in order to get the USB debug option.
Maybe by judging by my first post and the process I had while doing this "extremely" easy thing, you would notice that I am a very novice user when it comes to these things. I am sorry if I upset you by reaching out for help. Get real man.
Easiest method that I have been using is Wonder share on a PC. My computer recognized my Note 3 and installed drivers before this. To get APPS I put on phone using app store, then Export to PC folder, then Install to Gear. with both look up by USB is very fast and easy to get from the phone to the gear you can also load music files and movies this way and put programs on your gear like the Apollo player or mX Video Player I'm able to watch movies and podcast on the gear this way and listen to music that is on the gear.
dragoncius said:
It is not easy....it is EXTREMELY easy. If you are running Null rom just use usb cable tu put the apk on you gear and then with any file manager install. Or I have also used the Google Play store on my PC and sent it directly to my Gear.
Do you have gapps?
Are you running null?
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Can I have my gear recognized as usb drive so I can just drag and drop the files i needed to put into the gear internal memory instead of using adb to push the file?
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jhobert said:
Can I have my gear recognized as usb drive so I can just drag and drop the files i needed to put into the gear internal memory instead of using adb to push the file?
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It's exactly like using your phone. Enable MTP under storage settings.
puredreamz said:
It's exactly like using your phone. Enable MTP under storage settings.
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Mtp under storage of phone or gear? How to do that? Help pls. Thanks
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jhobert said:
Mtp under storage of phone or gear? How to do that? Help pls. Thanks
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Gear
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Gear
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Ive googled it and I think enabling mtp on gear only works if the gear has custom rom and rooted. Mine still on stock.
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cjakobp said:
I use the command: adb install C:\Users\SP Gaming I\Desktop\samsung\calculator.apk
and I get the error: too many files specified; only takes APK file and verifier file
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The reason is that your path has spaces in it. Command line tools treat spaces as delimiters between arguments. In other words, It thinks you want to adb install "C:\Users\SP", "Gaming", and "I\Desktop\samsung\calculator.apk". The fix for this is, like you did, either move it to another directory, or (even easier) simply put quotes around the file name. So, your full command would be
adb install "C:\Users\SP Gaming I\Desktop\samsung\calculator.apk"
As a tip for command line stuff in the future, do this.
cd "C:\Users\SP Gaming I\Desktop\samsung"
adb install calculator.apk
You can also use the Tab key to autocomplete file names when in cmd.exe on Windows, which will auto-add the quotes if they are needed.
As you mentioned in your other post, acquiring APK files in the first place isn't immediately obvious. You can use:
http://apps.evozi.com/apk-downloader/
and just paste the Google Play link in and download, even without the extension. However, once set up, the Chrome extension is extremely easy to use; just click the button and you're done. If you really really don't want to install Chrome for your untold reasons, you can always set up a virtual machine, or use a program like Sandboxie to make sure it doesn't touch the rest of your system.
It does seem odd that none of the guides say that you had to hit the version number 7 times; that's actually been a part of Android since 4.2. All USB Debugging options are disabled until you do that, on any device.
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Ive googled it and I think enabling mtp on gear only works if the gear has custom rom and rooted. Mine still on stock.
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If you're on stock, then I think that enabling usb debugging under settings->gear info can allow for usb transfer of files.
koiulpoi said:
The reason is that your path has spaces in it. Command line tools treat spaces as delimiters between arguments. In other words, It thinks you want to adb install "C:\Users\SP", "Gaming", and "I\Desktop\samsung\calculator.apk". The fix for this is, like you did, either move it to another directory, or (even easier) simply put quotes around the file name. So, your full command would be
adb install "C:\Users\SP Gaming I\Desktop\samsung\calculator.apk"
As a tip for command line stuff in the future, do this.
cd "C:\Users\SP Gaming I\Desktop\samsung"
adb install calculator.apk
You can also use the Tab key to autocomplete file names when in cmd.exe on Windows, which will auto-add the quotes if they are needed.
As you mentioned in your other post, acquiring APK files in the first place isn't immediately obvious. You can use:
"cant post outside links" - retarded since this is a quote...
and just paste the Google Play link in and download, even without the extension. However, once set up, the Chrome extension is extremely easy to use; just click the button and you're done. If you really really don't want to install Chrome for your untold reasons, you can always set up a virtual machine, or use a program like Sandboxie to make sure it doesn't touch the rest of your system.
It does seem odd that none of the guides say that you had to hit the version number 7 times; that's actually been a part of Android since 4.2. All USB Debugging options are disabled until you do that, on any device.
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Thank you so much for your reply! Now things doesn't seem as mysterious as they did. Once again, big thanks for your post!
btw, also found this repository for apks: androiddrawer
puredreamz said:
If you're on stock, then I think that enabling usb debugging under settings->gear info can allow for usb transfer of files.
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My gear still won't show as usb on my computer, but installing apks through adb is working I just couldn't get the push file from adb to work.
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