Hello Bionic Community,
I pay for the mobile hotspot feature from Verizon and use it as my dedicated internet for my home. I have the phone connected to a sapido router and use USB tethering to distribute internet to everything at my house.
The connection is great!! The only problem that I notice is, is that if I stream a movie or video chat with someone, the battery on the phone takes a hit.
Is there a way to USB tether the phone and connect the phone to the wall power supply so that the battery does not drain so fast? I've investigated using a USB y-cable, but am scared to do this as I don't want to fry my phone or router.
What do you guys think? Can this even be done?
In theory you can ditch the whole cable to phone. What you could do is take the phone and wirelessly tether it to the router so that the router becomes a repeater then just plug whatever Ethernet cables you want into the router to give it a hard line connection. To do this you need a Lynksis (Cisco) router that has the option of becoming a wireless repeater, if yours does great. Google how to set up a wireless repeater.
What you can also do is what my friends and I do on the road. If you have an old laptop that has xp-or up ( i havent tested 8 yet) you could tether you phone to computer then in the wireless connections settings set it to where the computer is used to access the internet. Then send that connection out to a router. Also remember whenever you are using a 3g connection AND charging at the same time your phone will get extremely hot. Use an app to keep an eye on the temp. Good luck and happy tethering
I feel your pain, I think the best option would be, as waffleb051 described, usb tether to pc then share internet connection from that pc, windows ICS, so that you are charging the phone & also tethering 3g/4g from your phone. But beware of the battery temp.
I wish a smartphone would function like a laptop while charger is connected, it would draw the power directly from charger instead of drawing through the battery.
Just out of curiosity, how much data you are using per month for the whole house, on average?
I have been doing this for years except that my phone is rooted so I don't have to pay the rip-off fee of $30/mo for tethering.
I use an old Vista PC with a wifi usb adapter and then use ICS to share the Internet connection to my entire network (7 users). Then I just plug the phone into the phone's charger and let it rip. There have been no problems even when I leave it all connected for five days straight. Using the wifi option keeps the phone from getting too hot. Be sure to turn off features like GPS because if too many things are running, you may end up pulling more power than the charger can keep up with.
I run 20-30 gigs per month with no problem at all. And no slow downs or calls from big red.
I did try to set up my Belkin router as a repeater but it did not see the phone and thus, did not work. Not all repeaters will work.
.....I forgot the mention that android as of now cannot connect to and ad-hoc network so the router idea might be out, I will test it tonight and post results
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I am currently on day 22 of 29 on my cycle and I'm currently at 45 gigs. Sometimes I hit 80 if I watch a lot of movies / justin.tv. I use more data because I chose to cut the cable cord... this is how I justify to myself spending the extra $30 per month for the mobile hotspot feature.
I would have gone with the wireless tether feature, but for some reason, this is not stable for me. My copy of the bionic will reboot every hour or so when in wifi tether mode. I've used both the built in wifi tether option, as well as the wireless tether for root users. Any ideas to increase stability?
I agree that a better option would be to tether through a computer, but the sapido router is cheaper, lower power usage and has a pretty powerful wifi radio. I also understand that they make a portable version of the router. Maybe this portable version would be better to tether compared to a laptop?
The phone does get hot when I tether, but not that hot; even when I'm video conferencing. I'm thinking if the phone can get enough juice from the usb connection somehow, then the battery can be removed during extended need of the internet. Maybe someone knows of a battery AC adapter or something??
Thanks!
calimansi said:
I am currently on day 22 of 29 on my cycle and I'm currently at 45 gigs. Sometimes I hit 80 if I watch a lot of movies / justin.tv. I use more data because I chose to cut the cable cord... this is how I justify to myself spending the extra $30 per month for the mobile hotspot feature.
I would have gone with the wireless tether feature, but for some reason, this is not stable for me. My copy of the bionic will reboot every hour or so when in wifi tether mode. I've used both the built in wifi tether option, as well as the wireless tether for root users. Any ideas to increase stability?
I agree that a better option would be to tether through a computer, but the sapido router is cheaper, lower power usage and has a pretty powerful wifi radio. I also understand that they make a portable version of the router. Maybe this portable version would be better to tether compared to a laptop?
The phone does get hot when I tether, but not that hot; even when I'm video conferencing. I'm thinking if the phone can get enough juice from the usb connection somehow, then the battery can be removed during extended need of the internet. Maybe someone knows of a battery AC adapter or something??
Thanks!
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Are you in a 4G area? I am not but wish I were. You do know that you can root your phone and then drop the $30 free from big red yet still tether? Its what I a m doing for more than 2 years with no problems at all.
I have no stability problems doing it via wifi. I was getting data drops before the .902 update. I would take your phone back or call tech support and get it fixed before you root it. You paid good money and should expect good service from both the phone and big red.
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I've searched for a long time and have done much research. Does anyone know of a definitive way to tether my Kaiser to my Mac running tiger? I've come across USB modem and PDAnet but I don't think they're solutions for me. PDAnet is specifically for Windows only. I know missing sync used to cooperate with Internet Sharing via usb but I'm not sure if that still works. Anyway I was hoping one of you geniuses might have a clue for me. As always, thanks very much for you time.
If you haven't stumbled upon this already, try WM WiFiRouter - http://www.wmwifirouter.com
WiFiRouter works for me. I get decent reliable connectivity w/ the Kaiser - On Rogers (contract account) tethered on 3G, average 1,550-2,500 kbps (speedtest) downloads. On AT&T (prepaid), average 500-1,250 kbps... perhaps slower as it's prepaid? To keep the battery topped up, I try charging the Kaiser w/ AC or via USB (trickle only).
Before WiFiRouter, I slaved through trying to get Mobile Stream's USB Modem to work. I gave up as the connection was really slow, and at the time, only available via bluetooth dun...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=383651
I did receive an email in early June stating that USB Modem now supports USB connection to OSX. They provided the following link:
http://mobile-stream.com/demos/usbmodem_wm_trial.zip
Cheers.
definitely wmwifirouter
This application is a godsend and is quite obviously your solution versus USB tethering. Just take my word for it and buy it right now, http://wmwifirouter.com, or let me offer you a few reasons:
Firstly, the Kaiser does not have high-speed USB 2.0 (480Mb/s), it has theoretical "full speed" of 12Mb/s which in reality is nowhere near 12Mb/s and may be slower than what your HSDPA/UMTS/whatever connection can pump whereas wifi g's theoretical speed is a comfy 54Mb/s. So you elimintate a potential limiting reagent. Probably not an issue but maybe depending on your setup and location's coverage.
Secondly, when you're transferring data at speeds in excess of maybe 90KBytes/sec on the Kaiser while tethered, the Kaiser may start to eat over 500mA when your USB feed only pumps in, tops, a 500mA charge. With wifi, even though the wifi radio adds more consumption obviously, you've still got that little USB jack free to plug in your wall charger which gives it a steady amp, allowing you to bring in, in my experience with this program, up to 470KBytes/sec without discharging (though it gets hot as hell). Typically, either with bittorrent connected to many peers and pumping out 20KB/s or just a straight download of a Linux distro from a single server I get about 200KBytes/sec incoming with WMWifiRouter which competes with my home broadband with acceptable latency (low hundreds).
Maybe you're thinking, "Well, I'll be using this on the train where I can't plug in a charger so I should try to figure out how to do this with USB so I don't completely empty my phone before I get to work." Think again! Off-hand I don't remember exactly how much additional power the wifi radio on the Kaiser eats on its low setting, but you can just pop in USB into an Mac that's unconfigured for USBing with the phone and still get your ~500mA charge. Also you can play Robin Hood and hook your trainmates up with internet.
Thirdly, with this badass application, you can turn your phone essentially into an apparently full-fledged (albiet ad-hoc) router connected to the internet via DSL with mediocre latency: You can hook up multiple devices, you don't need to configure anything (most of the time you just install it, run it and click connect), if you go under a tunnel and lose the connection or you accidentally flip that dumb switch on your laptop and lose your wifi but turn it back on, no problem, it reconnects for you with the screen off. Up to 128 WEP if you're paranoid. I haven't tried it but according to Chainfire's commercial website you can feed internet from your phone into a normal router in order to get WPA. Port mapping, DMZ, traffic stats, you name it.
Hell, forget the technical reasons and just get it because it's fascinating to see what your phone can do with the right coding from some bloke not employed by AT&T or HTC or anyone up until the program left beta. But please, do not pirate the program. Don't. Chainfire's asking for twenty pounds/forty bucks for something he put hundreds (thousands?) of hours into that gives your phone a certain god-like quality.
Is there anyway I can use Bluetooth to connect to my ps3 to use 3g internet? Thanks
If you are rooted you should be able to use wifi tethering.
Yeah,I'm rooted. But my ps3 doesn't have wireless internet connection.
Just wondering if I can do it through Bluetooth. If so, how can I get them to pair. Or is there a way to do it through wired tether. If so, where can I get the wired tether?
PDAnet supports both USB and BT tethering. I've never used it. It's in the Market, just search "tether" and there's a free version. The free version blocks secure sites.
As far as I know, the PS3 does not have any Bluetooth modem capabilities. With root, your options are WiFi tether, USB tether, and Bluetooth tether. As far as I know, there is no adapter for connecting your phone to an ethernet connection for wired tethering.
I was under the impression that all PS3s had WiFi. Am I mistaken? Or does yours just not work?
At any rate, what you can do is use a computer (desktop, laptop, any computer will do) as an intermediary between the phone and the PS3.
1. Tether the phone to the computer (with any of the three, pick your poison).
2. Setup Internet Connection Sharing on whatever connection the phone connects to the computer with.
3. Then all that is left is connecting the ethernet port on the computer to the ethernet port on your PS3 and setting up the connection.
As long as either both ethernet ports are auto-sensing or you use a cross-over cable, it should work.
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As far as I know, the PS3 does not have any Bluetooth modem capabilities. With root, your options are WiFi tether, USB tether, and Bluetooth tether. As far as I know, there is no adapter for connecting your phone to an ethernet connection for wired tethering.
I was under the impression that all PS3s had WiFi. Am I mistaken? Or does yours just not work?
At any rate, what you can do is use a computer (desktop, laptop, any computer will do) as an intermediary between the phone and the PS3.
1. Tether the phone to the computer (with any of the three, pick your poison).
2. Setup Internet Connection Sharing on whatever connection the phone connects to the computer with.
3. Then all that is left is connecting the ethernet port on the computer to the ethernet port on your PS3 and setting up the connection.
As long as either both ethernet ports are auto-sensing or you use a cross-over cable, it should work.
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Thanks a lot. I might have wifi on my ps3 I never tried it . But I will now.
Good luck with this, I can assure you that you will have a high bill with in the next few months! PS3 + Wireless Tether = High Bill and possible disconnection just a heads up!
I have unlimited data
Since we're on this topic, why do people keep saying you'll get disconnected or a higher bill if you tether? I've been told by a verizon store rep that Verizon doesn't even start "monitoring" your usage until you go beyond 5gigs/month. I've used at least 3-4gig consistently for the last 3 months with streaming music every day for a few hours each day, sometimes all day.
How does that differ from someone using it for tethering instead of streaming music, downloading apps, etc? Data is data right? Is there a way for Verizon to know you're tethered as apposed to just a heavy phone-only data user?
Has anyone ever really had a problem with this? I mean, it says "unlimited" on the data plan, and I've found no fine print limiting it anywhere so can they really legally do anything? (Thinking false advertising lawsuit if they did......)
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As far as I know, the PS3 does not have any Bluetooth modem capabilities. With root, your options are WiFi tether, USB tether, and Bluetooth tether. As far as I know, there is no adapter for connecting your phone to an ethernet connection for wired tethering.
I was under the impression that all PS3s had WiFi. Am I mistaken? Or does yours just not work?
At any rate, what you can do is use a computer (desktop, laptop, any computer will do) as an intermediary between the phone and the PS3.
1. Tether the phone to the computer (with any of the three, pick your poison).
2. Setup Internet Connection Sharing on whatever connection the phone connects to the computer with.
3. Then all that is left is connecting the ethernet port on the computer to the ethernet port on your PS3 and setting up the connection.
As long as either both ethernet ports are auto-sensing or you use a cross-over cable, it should work.
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I have done this before and use it to play MAG almost everyday for a couple of weeks. I never had any lag or disconnects and i never had a high phone bill and never disconnected from Verizon.
piercedtiger said:
Since we're on this topic, why do people keep saying you'll get disconnected or a higher bill if you tether? I've been told by a verizon store rep that Verizon doesn't even start "monitoring" your usage until you go beyond 5gigs/month. I've used at least 3-4gig consistently for the last 3 months with streaming music every day for a few hours each day, sometimes all day.
How does that differ from someone using it for tethering instead of streaming music, downloading apps, etc? Data is data right? Is there a way for Verizon to know you're tethered as apposed to just a heavy phone-only data user?
Has anyone ever really had a problem with this? I mean, it says "unlimited" on the data plan, and I've found no fine print limiting it anywhere so can they really legally do anything? (Thinking false advertising lawsuit if they did......)
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I've heard that Verizon can and will monitor your usage and if you use huge amounts (probably like 10+ gigs a month) then they may shut you off or at least look into it. Also heard from Gizmodo I think it was, that some cell company's don't ACTUALLY mean unlimited when they say unlimited data. Some probably have caps at about 20+ gigs or something. Never heard which company's it was though. And this all may just be a bunch of crap so don't quote me on this
I know the wireless tether for what ever reason the ps3 will not pick it up atleast it wouldnt for me I tried it a couple times just to check and see if it would work but no luck.
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I know the wireless tether for what ever reason the ps3 will not pick it up atleast it wouldnt for me I tried it a couple times just to check and see if it would work but no luck.
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I too have this problem. Im using android tether and tried many different settings. I changed the channel, the ip, with and without a passcode, and got nothing. I think I do remember seeing in the bluetooth settings something about bluetooth modem. I hope someone can figure it out.
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I too have this problem. Im using android tether and tried many different settings. I changed the channel, the ip, with and without a passcode, and got nothing. I think I do remember seeing in the bluetooth settings something about bluetooth modem. I hope someone can figure it out.
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the ps3, along with pretty much everything else except for actual computers, cant connect to Ad-Hoc networks as an internet connection.
you can though, if you have a Cat 5e crossover cable (radioshack has em), plug that into your network port, then go into network adapter settings and bridge your network cable port and USB connection port. the ps3 might be able to play off of that, it works on the 360 atleast
Ok well looks like I know what I am going to mess with when I get home. Thanks for the help.
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No, I just called Verizon and once you break 20 gig's of tethered data, they shut that **** down.
I was wondering what you are using Wireless or USB WIRED tether for.......for a tablet or a pc at home? I was thinking about getting a EVO but might like a tablet such as the Viewsonic G and use wireless tether with my hero. Also what is your battery life like using Wireless or USB WIRED tether...thanks for your time and answers.
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i bought pda net and use usb tether on my pc. that connects my ps3 also. bridged, shared network connections. ps3 is hard wired to my pc.
I been using usb tether to run my laptop when I can't get wifi. If I turn it on it doesn't get hot as quick.
Asadullah said:
I been using usb tether to run my laptop when I can't get wifi. If I turn it on it doesn't get hot as quick.
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yeah, i gotta be fully charged to run on 3g, itll overheat if im downloading stuff on a low signal quality 3g, especially if im charging as well...
I use it for wireless tether
I use the USB tether every day all day at work to get around our corporate firewall to be able to get on XDA and Facebook. I use "Wireless Tether" when I go on road trips to let the kids connect to my hotspot while in the car with their laptops and iPod Touches. I usually have it plugged in to either a car charger or the wall when running wireless tether because it is a huge battery drainer. I used to use EasyTether before when I was on Android 2.1 but now that I'm on FroYo 2.2 it is built in and works sweet!
First before people ask...no I can't get a decent ISP in my new apartment complex. They have a "deal" with some horrible small-time cable company that I've never heard of, and all the neighbors hate it. On top of that I have talked my work into paying for the account I plan on using for this since it's "required" so that I can work from home as needed.
That being said, I've done some initial speed tests at my new place and I get a consistent 11Mbps/3Mbps over Sprint's 4G/WiMAX, which is more than enough for my needs. I know that will fluctuate, but even so I'm excited about this project!
So sure I could just dump WiFi Tether on a rooted NS4G and leave it be, but I want to try taking it to the next level. What I'm thinking is a full-time router, much like a pfSense/SmoothWall/Vyatta distro, using the WiMAX (And 3G as a backup) for the WAN and the WiFi for the network connectivity. Unless I can figure out a better solution I would probably use a WRT54GL with dd-wrt to act as the wireless bridge for my wired clients.
It'll always be plugged into power, so battery isn't an issue (But a nice bonus for when the power does go out). I would like to have an always running bandwidth monitoring screen that I can just glance at. Of course there would be remote monitoring/configuration, as well as some built-in "apps".
I know this is a big task to take on, but I need something to focus on in regards to getting into the development side of things and I think this would be a great place to start. However I've got some questions that I think ya'll could help me figure out:
1 - What should I do for providing services like DHCP, DNS, Port Forwarding, NAT, etc? I know it would require some heavy lifting but I could cross-compile standard linux based apps like dhcpd right?
Or does anyone know of that perfect app that might help me get a head start? I don't mind using different apps/services and then focusing on making them all work together, but if there is a "simple" solution already that would be fine by me!
2 - Since it's not going to be a multimedia demon, is there a particular light-weight, almost console-only ROM that might serve to be the best base to build from? I would think something that is more geared towards running desktop-based applications versus the standard apps.
3 - WiMAX needs to work of course, how would that play into it?
4 - Is that anything that might allow me to plugin a standard ethernet cable? I don't think I've seen a mini-usb to ethernet yet...do they have a mini-usb to regular usb at least?
I know these are very basic questions, but I just want to get a pulse on if this is just an unobtainable idea or not. I don't think it is, it's basically a different way of getting to a MiFi. Also if anyone knows of anyone elses past attempts at this I would love to know where I can read up on it in. Thanx in advance!!!
My phone overheats if it tethers for hours upon hours. Gets kind of annoying. I suggest you buy a external charger and another battery so you don't have to play " let the battery cool down" game.
I had the same issue on my other 2 smartphones while tethering (Samsung instinct with ported 1.6. And optimus s)
I would say try finding a loophole or move. Slow internet is a whore. I use hot sport off my phone to my ps3. And I can only play from 11pm-6am lag-free.
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Are you oc'ed or something I tether my phone for hours a day and havent had it over heat except for when I was oc'ed above 1.2ghz.
There are a few issues with this.
1.Restrictive firewalling policies on the ISP side. Blocked ports/ throttling.
2.Added latency from wireless > wireless bridge. With wireless you will need to tether to a wireless bridge with ethernet ports for your computers. wrt54g and the like with dd-wrt work fine for this. A linux computer with a wireless card would also work. Tethering with USB to a linux computer that you can edit the iptables rules would be best.
3.Double NAT. This is something you must avoid to have a proper connection. With wireless your tethering program is going to use NAT, but then your bridge will probably also use NAT. This will leave you with a very convoluted connection. Tethering with USB would probably also be best here. In the past when I have used USB tethering (motor razr) the host PC gets assigned the true WAN address of the phone via a virtual adapter. Thus this would only require setting up NAT/ iptables once on the host PC.
My suggestion would be to exchange the phone/plan for a 3g/4g data card that works with GNU/Linux and setup NAT that way of course along with an ethernet switch. Good luck with it.
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There are a few issues with this.
1.Restrictive firewalling policies on the ISP side. Blocked ports/ throttling.
2.Added latency from wireless > wireless bridge. With wireless you will need to tether to a wireless bridge with ethernet ports for your computers. wrt54g and the like with dd-wrt work fine for this. A linux computer with a wireless card would also work. Tethering with USB to a linux computer that you can edit the iptables rules would be best.
3.Double NAT. This is something you must avoid to have a proper connection. With wireless your tethering program is going to use NAT, but then your bridge will probably also use NAT. This will leave you with a very convoluted connection. Tethering with USB would probably also be best here. In the past when I have used USB tethering (motor razr) the host PC gets assigned the true WAN address of the phone via a virtual adapter. Thus this would only require setting up NAT/ iptables once on the host PC.
My suggestion would be to exchange the phone/plan for a 3g/4g data card that works with GNU/Linux and setup NAT that way of course along with an ethernet switch. Good luck with it.
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But he would then be giving up unlimited data as a result of leaving the phone plans.
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Whenever I travel, by biggest grouch is that some of the hotels/motels only provide a hard wired ethernet connection and you cannot (Well, there are ways you can) connect anything other than your laptop with an ethernet port to the internet via the hook-up.
So I ordered this - http://www.amazon.com/TP-LINK-Wirel...UTF8&qid=1343871357&sr=8-2&keywords=TL-MR3040 which I found on buy.com for $40 shipped (Price has gone up now!). I am thinking that I will flash openwrt on it and then use this - http://www.frys.com/product/5923844?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG plugged into the USB port on the router as a wifi network HDD and also as a travel router. The router can be powered by a mini-usb cable hooked up to it and it also has an in-built 2000mAh battery which apparently keeps it juiced for about 5 hrs if you believe the specs. I think you can hook-up an even larger external HDD to the router if you choose to (within power restraints).
I looked thought the forums, but couldn't find anyone who has chosen to go down this route. Has anyone had any success with a similar setup?
Cheers.
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Whenever I travel, by biggest grouch is that some of the hotels/motels only provide a hard wired ethernet connection and you cannot (Well, there are ways you can) connect anything other than your laptop with an ethernet port to the internet via the hook-up.
So I ordered this - http://www.amazon.com/TP-LINK-Wirel...UTF8&qid=1343871357&sr=8-2&keywords=TL-MR3040 which I found on buy.com for $40 shipped (Price has gone up now!). I am thinking that I will flash openwrt on it and then use this - http://www.frys.com/product/5923844?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG plugged into the USB port on the router as a wifi network HDD and also as a travel router. The router can be powered by a mini-usb cable hooked up to it and it also has an in-built 2000mAh battery which apparently keeps it juiced for about 5 hrs if you believe the specs. I think you can hook-up an even larger external HDD to the router if you choose to (within power restraints).
I looked thought the forums, but couldn't find anyone who has chosen to go down this route. Has anyone had any success with a similar setup?
Cheers.
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I went with an Asus Travel Router which I reflashed with DD-WRT. This will also do wifi rebroadcasting if you are in a hotel and want to share the wireless connection. It still does AP and router modes. Its a smallish thing and has one issue with the firmware which I have learned to live with. I've used it in Japan, India, Singapore in the past where the hotels had either wireless or wired ethernet so I could share the connection with multiple devices. I think that this is the one I got:
http://www.amazon.com/Asus-Wireless...1343874836&sr=1-2&keywords=asus+travel+router
Never used a portable storage thing like you linked to though.
The wireless sharing was quite nice when I wanted a second laptop or even my android phone to be on the hotel network in my room.