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Somewhere in inetrnet some say that there is the hardware for FM radio and requires only an application to make it work? Fact or fantasy?
nemocool said:
Somewhere in inetrnet some say that there is the hardware for FM radio and requires only an application to make it work? Fact or fantasy?
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The Snapdragon chip has FM in it.
But the Liquid doesn't have FM, dunno if it's disabled or took out (hardware)
So what I read is not a fantasy, I hope someone develops a utility that allows us to use it!
I think its the bluetooth chip that have FM receiver, not the CPU.
Check this out:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=608340
If Bluetooth chip is same then Liquid should have radio and since F1 has radio and F1 and Liquid hardware are pretty much the same, I think there is big possibility Liquid to have radio, which is disabled.
Also I have seen in a dump from HTC Espresso a radio application.
Look at this:
http://www.broadcom.com/products/Bluetooth/Bluetooth-RF-Silicon-and-Software-Solutions/BCM4325
I wonder then why FM radio is disabled and the bluetooth is 2.0 instead of 2.1??
nemocool said:
I wonder then why FM radio is disabled and the bluetooth is 2.0 instead of 2.1??
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bluetooth might be because android just started supporting bt 2.1 in eclair (who knows if updating the radio will make it work in 2.1 instead of 2.0)... fm radio who knows...
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bluetooth might be because android just started supporting bt 2.1 in eclair (who knows if updating the radio will make it work in 2.1 instead of 2.0)... fm radio who knows...
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It occurs to me that we are experiencing growth Andorid day to day, who knows if in a not too distant future we will also see an application that runs the FM receiver
Exactly, giving the limited resources Acer has to making Android phones (probably just ramping up), they decided to skip on developing software drivers for the FM radio since they figured most people will use 3G streaming. but I like FM radio since it uses way less power and for those who don't have a data plan to burn through. Hopefully someone is able to write software drivers for the FM radio.
Some notes on this subject:
1.Acer has little to nothing to do to get the FM working, it's broadcom who makes the bluetooth (and thus FM) driver. What Acer has to do is only a GUI, which isn't hard to do
2.Nexus One has the same chip (ok, not the same, but they share the same driver), and doesn't have FM enabled either, that makes me think their might be some problem somewhere. (but the previous posts stating that using FM on a recent smartphone is unusual seems like a good guess.)
3.I've seen linux FM drivers for BCM4325, in Samsung Galaxy ROM (It's the btld daemon)
The thing is that this driver is fully closed source and doesn't use the bluez stack (linux bluetooth stuff), that's perhaps the reason why Acer and Google decided not to use it.
Anyway these chips are used by N1, Samsung Galaxy (I7500), iPhone 3GS, HTC HD2, HTC Touch Pro2, well, all brand new shiny phones, so it's likely someone of these developers will get something at some point
Does have milestone same chip?
Any news on radio fm recevier on liquid??
luca_v3r said:
Does have milestone same chip?
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No, milestone have TI wl1271, we have Broadcom bcm4325
an fm radio would rock my world...any news
do you say FM radio!!!!!
If yes, is it possible somehow to enable it....because I realize games,mp3 and chatting doesn't mean entertainment for me on the road.....
I've heard bradcomm released data sheets for their liquid bluetooth chip...
any news on this topic, or fm is just too simple ?
and what about terrestrial digital radio (sorry, french..) ?
can it be supported or received at all by our phones ?
may be it need new hardware ?
well, i'm glad to wake up this thread, as i've got some good news
i'm not able to use it myself, so i'll wait for others or the release of the thing in question.
No more waiting, here it is : fm is coming to our liquids
"://android.modaco.com/content/acer-liquid-liquid-modaco-com/320945/radio-fm-for-acer-liquid-finally/"
I've had my captivate for quite some time now. After trying a few different roms I slowly gravitated towards Continuum. The fact it lets me use netflix, fully customize my look and feel built in, as well as having some of the most popular mods just seems like a win-win to me. It appears they still don't use the original bluez stack for bluetooth functions.
After doing some research, it appears that CM7 have changed the proprietary samsung blue tooth for the linux based bluez stack that allows wii remote pairing with the device.
Does anyone know if theres a kernal you could flash over continuum to be able to do just that? If not, what features might I lose if I were to switch to CM7. With so many nightly builds, its hard to keep up to date with CM7.
Any help on this subject would be greatly appreciated.
Hi Guys....
I change my HTC Kaiser TYTN II to Android from Winmo rom cooked by shifu
suvil.com/products_freeaudiobt_en.html#product/gallery/free_audio_bt_2.jpg
My Bluetooth headset Suvil works fine to WinMO
Hard SPL 3.29
Radio 1.70.19.09
WinMO rom By shifu
Then i tried Android rom
Not so super froyo by kyle
fresh froyo by dark prince
I cant make my bluetooth headset media buttons to work
I tried to update the:
Hard SPL
3.34
3.56
Radio
1.71.09.01
1.65.21.18 downgrade
Kernels
L1q1d .32/.25
dzo .25
myns .32
still no luck! Cannot use the play/pause rewind/forward button functions
if i click the play/pause twice , it calls the last person on my log
Please help me Masters. TIA!
Thanks for letting me know that. Cheers!
Maybe we can figure it out. It has always bothered me a bit, but never enough to look into the problem. I know that it works fine on some other Android phones. We need to poke around and see if there is any debugging output that can be enabled for Bluetooth. We have all the source code, but sometimes it is like looking for a needle in a haystack.
If I recall, the build you mentioned was based on Fresh Froyo, so that's the source code to look at. Also, Scooter1556 made a CyanogenMod buiid of Gingerbread from different sources, and I haven't tried that very much. Can anyone report whether bluetooth controls work there?
I have to confess that I've been using my Tilt2 (HTC Rhodium) recently, with xdandroid. It is very similar to Fresh Froyo, but faster because the device has more memory. The larger screen helps too. But the battery meter is poor like ours was a year ago, so I have a little work ahead of me on that device. Yet I haven't abandoned the Kaiser completely. No promises, but I'll poke around and see if I can figure out how the bluetooth pause, play, next, previous, and volume buttons work in WinMo and why they don't do anything in our Android builds.
BTW: I don't know about the radio, but the best kernel so far is the Scooter1556 kernel with separated cache, especially for NAND installs.
n2rjt said:
Maybe we can figure it out. It has always bothered me a bit, but never enough to look into the problem. I know that it works fine on some other Android phones. We need to poke around and see if there is any debugging output that can be enabled for Bluetooth. We have all the source code, but sometimes it is like looking for a needle in a haystack.
If I recall, the build you mentioned was based on Fresh Froyo, so that's the source code to look at. Also, Scooter1556 made a CyanogenMod buiid of Gingerbread from different sources, and I haven't tried that very much. Can anyone report whether bluetooth controls work there?
I have to confess that I've been using my Tilt2 (HTC Rhodium) recently, with xdandroid. It is very similar to Fresh Froyo, but faster because the device has more memory. The larger screen helps too. But the battery meter is poor like ours was a year ago, so I have a little work ahead of me on that device. Yet I haven't abandoned the Kaiser completely. No promises, but I'll poke around and see if I can figure out how the bluetooth pause, play, next, previous, and volume buttons work in WinMo and why they don't do anything in our Android builds.
BTW: I don't know about the radio, but the best kernel so far is the Scooter1556 kernel with separated cache, especially for NAND installs.
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As a diamond user, i hope you can fix the whole pack... Rhodium, Fuse, Diamond, and Topaz
n2rjt said:
Maybe we can figure it out. It has always bothered me a bit, but never enough to look into the problem. I know that it works fine on some other Android phones. We need to poke around and see if there is any debugging output that can be enabled for Bluetooth. We have all the source code, but sometimes it is like looking for a needle in a haystack.
If I recall, the build you mentioned was based on Fresh Froyo, so that's the source code to look at. Also, Scooter1556 made a CyanogenMod buiid of Gingerbread from different sources, and I haven't tried that very much. Can anyone report whether bluetooth controls work there?
I have to confess that I've been using my Tilt2 (HTC Rhodium) recently, with xdandroid. It is very similar to Fresh Froyo, but faster because the device has more memory. The larger screen helps too. But the battery meter is poor like ours was a year ago, so I have a little work ahead of me on that device. Yet I haven't abandoned the Kaiser completely. No promises, but I'll poke around and see if I can figure out how the bluetooth pause, play, next, previous, and volume buttons work in WinMo and why they don't do anything in our Android builds.
BTW: I don't know about the radio, but the best kernel so far is the Scooter1556 kernel with separated cache, especially for NAND installs.
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OMG!!! Some Masters did reply to my post!...Hope im not too late for this!
I have a friend who is using Samsung I5510 built with Froyo 2.2.2
and media buttons on my headset works fine
Well the problem is dont know how to extract the driver or configuration of that ROM and install it to my kaiser. (i dont know as well if android works that way)
Just the forward/next Play/Pause buttons are not working, never mind the Volume control as Bluetooth headset has its own controller
Hope this helps and thanks in advance!!!
Dear all,
I am not a code expert, but I would like to understand a bit more what is missing to have Camera & microphone working. Even if not experienced it, apparently both were working on CM7.
My questions are:
are we waiting for some other tablets' drivers to extract and put on the HP?
is someone working on writing the code from scratch?or convert from CM7?
will we ever be capable to use camera & mic under ICS?
Probably most of the developers are satisfied by the ICS versions running today and they are not concerned at all about camera & mic issues.
I am really satisfied about the performances achieved today with ICS, I am grateful of the hard work done by some experts in this forum, but I am looking forward to getting rid of Webos, because apart from videocall, I don't use it anymore.
Any expert?
Not an expert, but it has something to do with how the drivers load. CM7 only had a working mic. Camera would show but couldn't capture. Supposedly the camera drivers were from froyo and due to memory addressing issues as to where the camera loads into something else was already there in CM9 occupying the physical address. While WebOS has gone open source, it loaded the drivers into userspace. Meaning they had to be written from scratch. While this was already done for the graphics and touchscreen, there hasn't been another device on the market with similar enough hardware and software to import the drivers and get close enough to work.
I know this had been covered before but for the benefit of the newer crowd this is a discussion of modifications, software and hardware. I currently am working on an in dash mount for my streak. I like the idea of having a touch screen radio in my vehicle. The past two attempts have resulted in failure but I think my third attempt will turn out well.
Any others out there?
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Here is a bit of info for you. Technically the bcm4329 chip has a FM radio functionality.
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I did not even consider to look into this as an option. since I read more than I respond the link to the server is hard to find by digging through the forums so I have it saved. I am guessing I need to flash both of the zips to get it to work? I am going to do the usual back up of the system and give it a go. Thanks for the info i will see how well it works.
Ok, you got me. How do the zip files install? I tried cwm and update method, so maybe it is a newer version of cwm?
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http://www.broadcom.com/products/Bluetooth/Bluetooth-RF-Silicon-and-Software-Solutions/BCM4329
As for installing, read around, instructions are here.
I did some looking around, what I read us that the wifi edition does not support the radio function. I used the forum search feature, new to that, and after ask the Web searching and forum searching I turned up nothing. Did I search wrong our the wrong topic? I did find the radio app but there is no sound from it even after tuning and turning it on and it required super user permissions.
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I believe that all BCM43xx chips support fm radio, at least that's what they say on their spec sheets.
But many devices simply dont have the fm drivers installed and active.
Out of all the dell devices, only the SPro has official radio support. (All dell devices use BCM4329 chips except for the S5, which uses a BCM4325)
They attempted to get radio working on the S5 but they never released anything that worked.
BCM43xx chips are combo chips that support the following:
802.11
Bluetooth
FM radio
Obviously they cant not support wifi or BT, they're pretty much a requirement now, but the fm radio part isnt.
You'd need a headset to use it though, as it universally uses the headphone wires as it's antenna.
As soon as I get some stable builds going, I would love to put FM radio into my builds.
Yea I had to put in a headset for the radio app to function I just didn't get any sound. Still not sure what is wrong but I'm not giving up yet until there are no options left. I'm running the wifi only version of Steve's ROM so I'm not sure what all options are enabled in his roms. I started out on an OG Droid so modding and testing is nothing new to me I've bricked devices a few times, just late to the streak scene. My last device was a Bionic and I bricked that one more that the OG Droid.
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I can't seen to find the needed files to get it to work. Obviously the streak 5 files won't work, tried two radio apps I found here. One was a very basic radio app that didn't work and the other was a version that had a better GUI but still either did not function or no sound. It gets difficult to be this late in the game and find old information that gets buried. Do I need any of the radio files from the server? I believe the host is the Manii, I apologize if that is spelled wrong I do everything I can from the streak.
Update: I'm taking a guess here but the fm.**** file should go in the system/bin folder to get the fm function to work?
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Here's a summary of FM support on dell devices (and it's extended family's):
S5: Sorta has fm radio support (look up "fm_hcitool" and "spirit fm")
S7: None that we're aware of
S10: None that we're aware of
SPro: Working radio support built in
V: None that we're aware of
"Streak2 5": None that we're aware of (opus one)
"Streak2 7": Currently confirming (sterling)
The Qisda devices (S5/S7/V/"S2 5") all have comments about fm support, but it's completely broken.
You might be able to try spirit fm, otherwise short of fm being natively supported in the rom: fm radio isnt going to work.
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This is completely OT: but lenovo found the best way to support multiple devices:
The LePad S2007 and S2010 use the same, identical rom even though they're different devices (7" tab and 10" tab)
The S2007 is (likely) what would have been the Streak2 7 if dell didnt cancel "sterling"
I understand you are looking at the hardware level. Just figured I'd share what I use as an app... WiFi only streak7 in my car on an official mounted dell home dock in the dash. Then tethered to my cell for data, 3.5mm out on the dock connected to my head unit, all sounds play through the car.
TuneIn Radio(I have the pro version)
No FM hardware used, just the data connection through my cell
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So asI have read the fm won't work on my S7. Too bad it would have been nice. I did try to add the fm file and it did not work on any application for native fm radio. Still love the device though. I'll hold out until JB works, if the bugs can get squashed.
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