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Currently Using Fresh(awesome rom), IYO what's the best stock Android to try?

Currently Using Fresh(awesome rom), IYO what's the best stock Android to try?
I, as a Sprint Tech, am a picky picky SOB when it comes to customizing my phones. I have tried a ton of different ROMS on my Hero since employees cannot upgrade to EVO's, so I've flung myself deep into playing with the cool stuff you guys have here.
Love stock Android, EVEN Love Stock Sense UI. So naturally I have Fresh.
Not really into overclocking, and JIT is a no no as it breaks the Doggcatcher Podcast App. But I do underclock so that my battery last the typical 45-50 hours I currently get out of it using the overclock widget.
Sprint VVM is a must(which I have the apk for just in case, as is the stock HTC weather/clock app. Definately use google's nav/maps app and Places, but the rest of googles built in apps are crap (goggles/gtalk/etc).
I don't theme but I have a stock plain black wallpaper (pitch black no designs or anything) and I do like the HTC sense black taskbar with normal white font and I always patch in that cool HTC Desire battery indicator with the color changing circle and percentage inside...I know...I'm picky, LOL. I'd probably have to find a modded black taskbar to get rid of the ugly gray one that comes with stock Vanilla Android, but what can I say, I like simply black and black themes usually add to much extra stuff I can do without.
So...any suggestions??
Yes, I'm hard to put up with as far as this stuff goes, but I know what I want, and being that I'm one step away from creating my own darn ROM at this point because as great as the work is done by you guys already, I find it hard to grab one or two of everyone's stuff and not end up messing up something else...
LOL hey, it's hard being a tech for 16 years in this business and not want complete control over things, haha, plus, I don't mind the challenge, it's what I live for.
Thanks in advance and hey, if my lofty goals are too high, be blunt, be honest, tell me to make my own ROM, whatever, I'm all ears.
Thanks again.

Well im not sure if this is a stock rom..i think it is tho.
But im using FRESH TOAST 2.1 with Darchshizz #4 kernel.
Works great..and i have had no problems what so ever so far. althought FRESH 2.3.3 is an amazing ROM also.

Try Nfinite's stock deodexed rom, it is literally stock but deodexed so you can do whatever you like to it. He also provides zips to 2 circular battery icons in the Zenherofx thread which I love. BTW, fresh toast is an overclock dev rom that isn't nearly as stable as any of these.
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oops should have clarified, wanting stock vanilla android (like Nexus One or as close to) for Hero, I have stock Sense UI with the latest Fresh, isn't Nfinite's also sense UI or are the screenshots I'm seeing incorrect? Looks Like sense but I may be viewing the wrong ones.
Thanks for the input.

Lol I though you meant you did want Sense (stock), in that case, you should try out Darchdroid or sCrOm, Darch is super fast and stable and sCrOm is also aosp but has several built-in theme choices. Check these out in the Android Development section.
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TheNexxuvas said:
Currently Using Fresh(awesome rom), IYO what's the best stock Android to try?
I, as a Sprint Tech, am a picky picky SOB when it comes to customizing my phones.
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how ironic!

I know right, meh, I likes what I likes. I do a lot of ROM hopping, so think the best of both worlds at a pretty much even ground 0 with not much flair is kinda cool.
Oh cool note, I took apart an Epic 4G 2 months ago, that screen is Sharp as a tack. Wish I could port that bad boy into an EVO, not that the EVO screen is bad either but if the connections from Samsung on both screens were the same (Where HTC was getting their screens from until they had to switch over to Sony to keep up with the demand) and the size was 4.3 (think Samsung EPIC's at 4 straight) it would be a cool Mod to do. Then again, not sure if the board has the right drivers from the hummingbird chip versus the Qualcomm Snapdragon to properly run it but that'd be a fun DIY'er if the sizes were matched.

Where have all the ROMs gone.....

Not to get on a rant here guys, but I came from Win mo and those guys really work it over there......
Roms galore of every size and shape. I kinda expected that from this really open platform.
No new looks , no new feel.
Wassup, are we waiting for things to shake loose or what.
Must every one roll their own?
Just asking......
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ryoung101 said:
Not to get on a rant here guys, but I came from Win mo and those guys really work it over there......
Roms galore of every size and shape. I kinda expected that from this really open platform.
No new looks , no new feel.
Wassup, are we waiting for things to shake loose or what.
Must every one roll their own?
Just asking......
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=786532
Where is your rom?

Have you read anything on this forum?
And fyi, you can dl launchers and home screens to change looks without a rom right from app store. Search = friend
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Also, I doubt much ROM development will happen (except for a few champions of the people, like DG) until the Samsung official Android 2.2 comes out, and more importantly, the source code for that 2.2 version is released.
But to be honest, with a piece of hardware this capable, even the 2.1 ROMs are pretty sweet. That and other projects are currently ongoing. Take for example the Vodoo project, which basically has entirely scrapped the default filesystem, and gone with EXT2. And will soon be coming with other tweaks and options for the awesome SAMOLED screen in our phones. Those aren't exactly simple bits of code being whipped up.
Yes, I come from the WinMo side of XDA as well, but around here, it's quality not quantity that counts.

Yikes.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=786532
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=787194
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=787194
just some ideas... when froyo gets to the captivate, im sure they will start cranking them out even more...

When ryoung checks in again in a year there will surely be more roms.
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Everyone is so mean to the OP. He cant help it he is sofa king we tar did.

It's actually understandable why the OP is asking. I too spent a lot of time with WinMo and was used to having 10+ ROMs available. But I quickly realized that WinMo NEEDed modified ROMs just to give it functionality and performance. When I got my HTC Touch HD I thought I had the pinnacle of mobile phone technology, but yet I was still always trying new ROMS because I wasn't satisfied with the performance and functionality.
This Captivate is my first Android phone and from what I can tell we don't actually NEED a ROM to make the phone awesome.
WinMo needed ROMs to be a good experience, hence there was a lot of people focused on that aspect of development.
Android, and especially our awesome phone, doesn't need a new ROM to be a good experience so most of the genius developers are able to focus on other projects like various applications rather than just simply trying to get our phones to function.
WinMo required lots of hacking and ROMs to get the same functionality that our phone has by simply installing a new widget or app.
So to the OP, if you ever check back, you don't see a ton of ROMs because frankly they're not required. Welcome to Android! It's a much smoother and satisfying experience than your previous WinMo experience. I can say that because I was just like you just a couple months ago.

sschrupp said:
It's actually understandable why the OP is asking. I too spent a lot of time with WinMo and was used to having 10+ ROMs available. But I quickly realized that WinMo NEEDed modified ROMs just to give it functionality and performance. When I got my HTC Touch HD I thought I had the pinnacle of mobile phone technology, but yet I was still always trying new ROMS because I wasn't satisfied with the performance and functionality.
This Captivate is my first Android phone and from what I can tell we don't actually NEED a ROM to make the phone awesome.
WinMo needed ROMs to be a good experience, hence there was a lot of people focused on that aspect of development.
Android, and especially our awesome phone, doesn't need a new ROM to be a good experience so most of the genius developers are able to focus on other projects like various applications rather than just simply trying to get our phones to function.
WinMo required lots of hacking and ROMs to get the same functionality that our phone has by simply installing a new widget or app.
So to the OP, if you ever check back, you don't see a ton of ROMs because frankly they're not required. Welcome to Android! It's a much smoother and satisfying experience than your previous WinMo experience. I can say that because I was just like you just a couple months ago.
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and not all of us know how to make a rom quite yet

tbae2 said:
and not all of us know how to make a rom quite yet
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Yeah, I don't doubt that there WILL be more ROMs. Especially with the scrabble to get Froyo before Samsung releases it. This is a new phone after all. I just know that with my old WinMo phones the first thing I would do with them is feel unsatisfied and attempt to install some hacked ROM to feel a little less satisfied.
With this phone I'm just happy right out of the box. Of course I don't use the GPS so maybe if I did I'd grumble a bit. But otherwise I think this phone is just incredible.

WP7 on Captivate

Since I first knew that Captivates were hackable, I always wondered if there was any way to put WP7 on my phone. It isn't because I would have rather had a WP7, but it is simply because I want the option to. I find it hard to believe that none of you haven't imagine WP7 on your captivates. Recently trax26 made a theme of WP7 that looks simply amazing, (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=910918) but, his barely sufficient tranlation makes it even harder for a small time programmer like myself to install it. The screenshots look amazing, but there is no way I can do that.
My question is: Does anybody else know of a simpler WP7 theme to install? A CWM theme would be ideal, but some minor hacking would be okay with me.
And if not, I would just like to put that out there as a suggestion for anybody whose up to it. I'm sure there are tons of people (including myself) who would beta it as much as possible, just so as long the feel is right.
Thanks in advance, Richard.

Look at metro ui in the market. It is a decent wp7 launcher. Some bugs but overall much better then trying the theme.
This is my captivate. There are many like it buy this one is mine.

flashman2002 said:
Look at metro ui in the market. It is a decent wp7 launcher. Some bugs but overall much better then trying the theme.
This is my captivate. There are many like it buy this one is mine.
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Thanks a bunch and just wan to let you know you have a typo in your signature
EDIT: Although that is a good emulator, take a look at the link that i posted. That's what im looking for, full blow WP7 with the right symbols and everything (more or less). But thanks anyways.

Yea, it would be nice to have WP7 running on Cappy. After watching HD2 running WP7 on YouTube makes me eager to have it. But idk how. Lol.
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Yeah I know about my sig .
As for getting real wp7 it just wont happen. These themes and that II are probably the closest we will get. I figure the metro II is much easier than trying to do the process of the theme.
This is my captivate. There are many like it buy this one is mine.

WP7? So you can deal with stuff like this? http://blog.seattlepi.com/microsoft/archives/237934.asp?from=blog_last3
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I'm not saying I want WP7 as my only operating system, because Android is far superior in almost everything, but I simply want it to be able to have the choice of having WP7. I would like to have the speed and hackability of Android, but have the simplicity of WP7. I have to say the tiles are probably the only thing that will keep WP7 going, because honestly, I think they are pretty cool. Metro is a decent simulator that gets the jist, of WP7 but it's actually too simple. The thing about WP7 is that it has cool simplicity by using colored and animated tiles.
And as for the quote "It will be a long time before WP7 comes to android" every rom has to start somewhere.

You'd need someone who could reverse engineer WP7 - then figure out how to use existing drivers or write new ones before WP7 could be installed on our Android phones.
There is no "Open Source" for Windows... ever.
Drivers would probably have to all be re-written or some type of hack so WP7 could work with existing drivers.
So... unless you know someone with a great amount of time - possibly can hack M$ and get the source code we probably won't be see this type of port soon.

well i use LG optimus 7 before i change to captivate just use it 1 month
then sell. What can i said... it actually very nice and really fast phone
and its wp7 is really pretty but it 2 simple and lack of app support for now.
cause its still new maybe another 1 or 2 years i will get it again.

Maybe i'm just not understanding, but im not asking for the windows sole operating system, im just asking for a themed windows 7 rom, or even better, a combination of the home screen on WP7 and the rest of it being android. Maybe thats too much to ask, but it doesnt seem like it.
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Maybe I didn't read your source post fully, but isn't that theme built for galaxy s phones, and only require launcherpro?
Granted I only glanced the post, but it didn't look too complex. If you can flash a ROM, that theme shouldn't be a big deal.
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Dupontrocks11 said:
Maybe i'm just not understanding, but im not asking for the windows sole operating system, im just asking for a themed windows 7 rom, or even better, a combination of the home screen on WP7 and the rest of it being android. Maybe thats too much to ask, but it doesnt seem like it.
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Android Phone 7 Theme
Google is your friend!
With all those widgets I wouldn't expect the battery to last half a day.

I read the entire post, and you need launcherpro plus to resize the widgets, which I dont have, and have no money to buy. Also, it's not a theme that you can flash, you need to do some extracting and coding via terminal. It may not be possible to make a complete WP7 theme that's flashable with Clockwork recovery, but I've seen many a theme that looks completely original. I don't know much about ROM writing (if i did i would have the WP7 theme on my phone and this post would be gone), but it seems like with all the amazing devoted themers on XDA, someone besides the before mentioned person, could create a wonderful flashable theme that does not require any money/hacking.

cappysw10 said:
Android Phone 7 Theme
Google is your friend!
With all those widgets I wouldn't expect the battery to last half a day.
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Wooww. This is truely what I wanted. My only question is, does it require and money and is it compatable with captivate? I only wish I could thank you twice haha
EDIT: Where is the tutorial?

Dupontrocks11 said:
Wooww. This is truely what I wanted. My only question is, does it require and money and is it compatable with captivate? I only wish I could thank you twice haha
EDIT: Where is the tutorial?
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The whole first post is a tutorial! Good luck!

Ok honestly, I don't want to try and screw with my phone, because I'm happy the way it is right now. I would really like to get a WP7 theme, but I think I'm going to wait until someone makes a SIMPLE theme, that you can flash and be done with HINT HINT HINT HINT.

Dupontrocks11 said:
Ok honestly, I don't want to try and screw with my phone, because I'm happy the way it is right now. I would really like to get a WP7 theme, but I think I'm going to wait until someone makes a SIMPLE theme, that you can flash and be done with HINT HINT HINT HINT.
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LoL yea i agree.. we just want wat we cant have.. but if we'd be stuck with it we'd be trying to get rid of it

Ive had a captivate since july and i love the phone even with numerous software problems right out of the box. I recently picked up unlocked HTC Surround and its awesome. That one comes with snapdragon processor 1 gig, same one in the HTC Evo 4g, and 512 mb ram and using the WP7 Os it is very fast right out of the box. It totally lacks customization unlike android os and no where the amount of apps and games android has, but the ones it does have are way better versions then the android ones, for example facebook and craiglist. And the xbox live game THE HARVEST is amazing. I would encourage anyone to try one out, very well done OS compared to the previous windows mobile os. I dont think ill sell my captivate because i love having option to choose from either android or Windows Phone 7. I just hope it catches on so it will soon have as many apps and games as Android.

Windows Phone 7 is a polished OS, but it won't even come close to Android or iOS for a VERY long time. And like I said early, It's not like I want WP7 instead of Android, but It's the reason that i CAN'T have WP7 that makes me want it. If anyone has any WP7 friends, give them the idea!

Have you looked into "Launcher7" ? Search it on the market.
If you just want a home theme that looks like WP7 this seems to be the easiest one going.
I think asking someone to port the whole WP7 OS over to a Cappy is probably not going to happen though.

[Q] question and opinions wanted

I have an HTC Hero and one of my many questions is do you think Sprint and HTC will make a Hero 2 ... maybe with a 3.5" or lil bigger (not a monster sized phone) with either a good 1ghz processor or even a dual core and maybe keep the "track Ball" but lose all the other buttons make them all capacitive touch ..... thoughts or opinions ?
I do believe that the Hero has been very successful for both HTC and Sprint.
Ok back to me and My Hero I am not a developer and I am new to the rom switching game. I love the crisp look of the factory Sense UI, but I am one of those types that sees things differently. I look at things and say to myself how could we improve on this or how can we make it faster and keep it looking good. I found this website, and pretty much changed my Hero into a Super Hero so to say.
I also would like to say thanks to all of the great developers on the CDMA Hero side, so far I have tried almost every variety of rom and different mod on my Hero (have screenshots once I get out of the probation period I will post them)
So far I figured out the easiest way for me to root my hero is with one of two I found floating around these forums, Hero Root by regaw leinad or super1click v1.7 ..... I also figured out that firerat's mod is easier the data2ext if your nat really familiar with adb. I also have found three more programs to help a lot, droid explorer, android commander and qtadb.
My question to all Hero owners what do you think is the best all around ROM, Gapps, and other mods as of May 8th 2011? (I am just looking for opinions I read almost every thread on this site and I would just like to see it all together call me lazy)
All this and I have not "bricked" my Hero .... must be one tough s.o.b.

To answer your first question, I just don't see a revised Hero in the works. It has a been a great phone for many users and Sprint alike I'm sure, but the Hero is not likely to reappear simply because it doesn't really conform to what HTC is doing with most of their phones now (4-4.3 inches, capacitive buttons, similar super thin form factor). I definitely don't think they would put a trackball in, because even if there were a trackpad on a new device it's almost guaranteed to be optical. If there were to be a refresh, I definitely think we would have heard something by now considering the lifespan of the Hero.
As for roms, I'd definitely suggest playing around with AOSP or CM7 versions of Gingerbread. You may find that you prefer greater customizations than you get with Sense. However, if you really really dig Sense and would much rather have it, there's a great group of guys developing Sense 2.1 for Gingerbread on the Hero. It's in Alpha right now, but even considering that, it's a fantastic piece of work. As far as Gapps go, I would just stick to the latest ones provided at the Cyanogenmod wiki. I don't really apply other mods as I personally don't think I need any, but YMMV.

i for one love the design its the perfect size for me and as far as the processor goes once i overclocked it a little bit its plenty fast enough for me because i dont really install a ton of apps and as far as gaming goes i have a ps3 for that lol so it really is the perfect phone for me all the new ones are just to big i think.
and ive had the hero sense september and i had a mt3g before that.

OMGB
I have been running OMGB for the past 8 hrs I am using wifi only browsed the web for a while, cut grass listened to some MP3's and browsed the web some more and more MP3's I listened to MP3's for a couple hours (with the MIUI player found in the forums) and it shows pretty good battery life
I would also like to add that I am using the
opengles tweak to show supported version 1.1 (not 100% sure why I did it ... maybe just to say I did it successfully)
s0be's kernel AP5, unCoRrUpTeD data2ext V2.2, and the MIUI music player and camera apks
I like the bare minimalist look and feel this rom has, but I still dont have a true favorite .... variety is such a sweet thing and all these choices .... and most of the people I know dont even know what an HTC Hero is .... if its not a iLemon or if it doesnt say DROID (like in the commercials) they just dont "get it"

ok found the first flaw ..... lol
my market says verizon where i would normaly see Sprint and had my first FC
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jmphillips76 said:
ok found the first flaw ..... lol
my market says verizon where i would normaly see Sprint and had my first FC
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If you like the Sense UI Look, Checkout my "ExEnHeroC" Rom, the Links Below... (In my Signature)
It's a 2.2 Froyo Rom, and I know you said your kind a New to all the Rom/Rooting stuff so I'll let you know Before hand when a (GSM) Phones Ported to our (CDMA) Hero Not Everything Works!! But Most of the Important Everyday things Work! Check it out, See if you like it!
But for the Most Part its...
Faster, Smoother, and Filled with a Whole Lot More Goodies...
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I did checked it out and I liked a lot also .... it is silky smooth and I liked the main clock widget and how the status bar wasn't white ...
PMGRANDS said:
If you like the Sense UI Look, Checkout my "ExEnHeroC" Rom, the Links Below... (In my Signature)
It's a 2.2 Froyo Rom, and I know you said your kind a New to all the Rom/Rooting stuff so I'll let you know Before hand when a (GSM) Phones Ported to our (CDMA) Hero Not Everything Works!! But Most of the Important Everyday things Work! Check it out, See if you like it!
But for the Most Part its...
Faster, Smoother, and Filled with a Whole Lot More Goodies...
Sent from my HERO200 using XDA Premium App
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No variety in ROM's

I came to Nexus from an HTC One. I know that fact that the main thing with the Nexus is to have a simple, fast, stable and latest vanilla Android, but Im getting bored All the ROM;s look pretty much the same and most of the launchers/themes I used were either poorly designed, slowing down the phone, or draining the battery.
With the HTC I was able to switch to vastly different ROMs (Vanilla, HTC Sense, MIUI, Ubuntu etc.) whenever I want to experience different ways of using Android but with the Nexus i feel its very stale.
I searched the forums and there are no other options. Any idea why? Or are there and i'm too dumb to find them?

Well porting something like sense or touchwiz would be way too much work due to chunks of them being closed source. We could probably have miui or ubuntu though, would just need someone to be interested in doing it.
Imo there is a certain group of people who want to flash other devices in order to get an aosp like experience. It's these people who the nexus line appeals to.
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Kind of surprised there is no Ubuntu port (at least that I'm aware of). MIUI is too far behind. Last I checked it's still KK based, so we don't have a base to use, and besides, we are playing around with M, so almost two named releases ahead.
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Vorphs said:
I came to Nexus from an HTC One. I know that fact that the main thing with the Nexus is to have a simple, fast, stable and latest vanilla Android, but Im getting bored All the ROM;s look pretty much the same and most of the launchers/themes I used were either poorly designed, slowing down the phone, or draining the battery.
With the HTC I was able to switch to vastly different ROMs (Vanilla, HTC Sense, MIUI, Ubuntu etc.) whenever I want to experience different ways of using Android but with the Nexus i feel its very stale.
I searched the forums and there are no other options. Any idea why? Or are there and i'm too dumb to find them?
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very easy solution. make your own rom if you are bored with the n6 rom options. no one is stopping you, nor hindering any if your creativity. if you dont want to, then you need to apologize to all if our developers that are here on the n6, for calling out their "worthless" roms. launchers/themes have nothing to do with it, as they are different developers. again, your option is to use your own creativity and make a creative rom, or be a good soul and appreciate what we already have.

It's funny because I saw this thread title and thought "no variety in threads". I come from a Samsung and HTC background and we never had these threads, but now I see this same thread being posted every week.

Just a case of "should have done your research before buying". Personally, I find a wider variety here than either from my HTC days or my short stint with LG.

simms22 said:
very easy solution. make your own rom if you are bored with the n6 rom options. no one is stopping you, nor hindering any if your creativity. if you dont want to, then you need to apologize to all if our developers that are here on the n6, for calling out their "worthless" roms. launchers/themes have nothing to do with it, as they are different developers. again, your option is to use your own creativity and make a creative rom, or be a good soul and appreciate what we already have.
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That's a great advice man, after I get bored of League of Legends maybe, just maybe, ill use my creativity and develop the next great moba....
And the one calling them "worthless" is you my friend, I just said i'm bored of them because they look 99% the same, that's it.
Evolution_Tech said:
Just a case of "should have done your research before buying". Personally, I find a wider variety here than either from my HTC days or my short stint with LG.
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You are right, I could have looked into it before buying, but its too late now

Vorphs said:
That's a great advice man, after I get bored of League of Legends maybe, just maybe, ill use my creativity and develop the next great moba....
And the one calling them "worthless" is you my friend, I just said i'm bored of them because they look 99% the same, that's it.
You are right, I could have looked into it before buying, but its too late now
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fine, not "worthless", but " boring", my bad :silly:

Vorphs said:
And the one calling them "worthless" is you my friend, I just said i'm bored of them because they look 99% the same, that's it.
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Learn to theme and they won't look the same. Mine looks different.

prdog1 said:
Learn to theme and they won't look the same. Mine looks different.
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