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I was playing around with W.I.M.P. (Where is my phone) yesterday and I noticed an area that I think would make this program, or any other for that matter much more powerful.
Theory behind WIMP is that it sends back a text with GPS co-ordinates to another phone, not so great if theres 3 pubs within very close proximity, like in town. Soooo. my next thought was what if the phone was used at a camera post-being stolen.
I imagine the way this would work is that a photo would be taken from the thefts perpective using the standard back camera. However another additional photo is taken from the front camera with GPS data packaged into the JPG properties ala GPS Photo.
You'd get a shot of said thief, some decor in the background which Im sure would help work out where they are, you'd also have evidence of the theft and who took the phone, with time and date stamps, which when tallied against a police report would prove the photo was taken after the fact.
Im surprised this feature isnt available anywhere yet, or perhaps im talking tosh, or even that my google skills are lacking.
Anyhoo what do you funky brothers think?
I think that is a great idea now all we need is somone smart enuff to make make this porgram work like that lol
I think you would get a lot of pics of peoples pockets. Then you would know what pants they have on.
RussianTechno101 said:
I think that is a great idea now all we need is somone smart enuff to make make this porgram work like that lol
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If you were able to find someone smart enough to make the front camera work on your Tilt....then writing the software should be cake.
Laptop recovery.
They have this type of software on Apple lappies.
Have a look at the engadget link
http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/11/stolen-laptop-recovered-with-back-to-my-mac/
That would be a neat feature but you would also probably get a bunch of bad images (tables, pockets, hands).
Valtamr said:
If you were able to find someone smart enough to make the front camera work on your Tilt....then writing the software should be cake.
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If you noticed the first poster is from London so he probably has a Tytn II with the front camera...
fone_fanatic said:
That would be a neat feature but you would also probably get a bunch of bad images (tables, pockets, hands).
If you noticed the first poster is from London so he probably has a Tytn II with the front camera...
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Yes, and if you noticed the person I actually quoted has "Using: AT&T Tilt" in his/her signature.
Is that even possible?
Wow! Now that would really be something. I would definitely be installing such an app on my next device especially in face of my Kaiser being stolen 2 weeks ago.
I think the problem with picuters of people's pockets and pub tables could be easily solved by setting the application to transmit only the pictures actually taken by the person in possesion of the phone after the theft. This way you could make sure the pictures sent, were taken when the person in question was holding the phone in front of them actaully trying to take a picture of sth.
This creates other problems of course like: what if the thief never uses the camera? But I think all mobile phone users try the camera out (no matter how poor it could be) at least once. So receiving a good quality picture would only be a matter of time.
Why doesn't Google implement video chat into Gtalk or Google voice? I think that would be the next logical step in the evolution of those two apps what do you guys here think?
Skpe is good but I don't use it and I would rather use a app that I already use on my desktop that I am familiar with that I can use on my mobile device.
(Nexus One) plus it would give me a choice.
I know that the Nexus One does not have a front facing camera, but a native video chat app for the android os would be best. plus it simple to make a mirror for the camera so that it can be use for video chat.
What makes you think they're not working on it for Android already?
http://www.google.com/chat/video
I know that they have the plug in for the desktop which i use, i do hope that it will be implemented ,maybe the next update (gingerbread).
Won't do us much good without a front facing camera. Maybe once the hardware becomes more common they will add it.
I remember when video phones were all the rage many years back. The plans were ridiculous, the quality was piss poor, and no one used it. Now that mobile networks are getting faster it might start to make sense finally.
well once a long time ago i had a iphone (god forgive for i have sin) and some guy had written a video chat program for it which never was release but i copy the mirror setup to use the camera on the iphone which did not have a front facing camera. so nexus one could use it .
You don't have to have a front facing camera for video chat.
Imagine you're talking to someone and see something cool. "Hey, check this out" / turn on video chat for a few seconds and point at whatever / turn video chat off.
As video chat becomes more and more popular, I bet that's what it'll be used for rather than looking at someone's face for 30 minutes.
Paul22000 said:
You don't have to have a front facing camera for video chat.
Imagine you're talking to someone and see something cool. "Hey, check this out" / turn on video chat for a few seconds and point at whatever / turn video chat off.
As video chat becomes more and more popular, I bet that's what it'll be used for rather than looking at someone's face for 30 minutes.
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It will be used to view females boobs for 3-5 minutes.
Thats why people want video chat..thats what theyll get.
I need a front facing camera. I need to make sure she is where she says she is lol!
UNICORN025 said:
Why doesn't Google implement video chat into Gtalk or Google voice? I think that would be the next logical step in the evolution of those two apps what do you guys here think?
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I certainly hope they do but I don't think they're in much of a hurry because alternative services like Fring and Skype already have it covered.
However [and this may be a little off the rails] I hope that MMS is high on their Google Voice priority list because people send me pictures and not only can I not see them, it doesn't even tell me that I got it. Very annoying.
Whats the point to use video chat to show someone something, just record a video and mms it. I don't think video chat will catch on anyways, its been tried before with landlines. People just don't like to be seen when talking on the phone. They wouldn't mind seeing you but they don't want to be seen. Plus I see schools getting pissy about new types of "sexting."
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Whats the point to use video chat to show someone something, just record a video and mms it. I don't think video chat will catch on anyways, its been tried before with landlines. People just don't like to be seen when talking on the phone. They wouldn't mind seeing you but they don't want to be seen. Plus I see schools getting pissy about new types of "sexting."
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for one its real time ,i won't have to open another app to send a mms, i can just point and show and im done.
I guess it's a question of time that Google will bless us with a full blown video app (mobile or not). The recent acquisition of Gips gives us a hint.
As voice and video is however only marginally close to Google's mission (and possibly, core competence) of making the world's information universally accessible, they are dragging their feet. And, they make internet-enabling all sorts of devices a priority.
But I can't wait for an integration of Google voice with gizmo5, which would make the talk/chat client more Skype-like.
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Galecio Family said:
I need a front facing camera. I need to make sure she is where she says she is lol!
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Ya don't need the camera. Just sign her into google latitude or whatever's it is and become a friend of hers on your google latitude. Then use google maps to see her on The gps. That's what I do. I spy the **** outa my girl. Although I trust her I'm just not gonna be taken of fool of if the impossible happens..Lol
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Ya don't need the camera. Just sign her into google latitude or whatever's it is and become a friend of hers on your google latitude. Then use google maps to see her on The gps. That's what I do. I spy the **** outa my girl. Although I trust her I'm just not gonna be taken of fool of if the impossible happens..Lol
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Doesn't that only activate if she opens the Maps app?
Video chat should be made standard into android and smartphones in general. Its of great use for people that communicate thru sign language. I know it would help friends of mine and their families.
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Hey everyone, relatively new user here. This is my first post. I've recently changed from BlackBerry to the Samsung Galaxy S Vibrant offered from Bell. It's a fantastic phone and I don't miss BlackBerry one bit.
A question though regarding the phones front facing camera. I have downloaded a few apps that should be able to utilize the front facing camera in the phone, however it does not look like I am able to use it. My guess is Bell has locked it so customers need to purchase the video chat package they have. Is it possible to unlock this camera some how? I have achieved root on my phone.
I have searched the forums for a possible solution, but I have found nothing.
It's usable out of the box for me - try the mirror app from the market.
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Hey everyone, relatively new user here. This is my first post. I've recently changed from BlackBerry to the Samsung Galaxy S Vibrant offered from Bell. It's a fantastic phone and I don't miss BlackBerry one bit.
A question though regarding the phones front facing camera. I have downloaded a few apps that should be able to utilize the front facing camera in the phone, however it does not look like I am able to use it. My guess is Bell has locked it so customers need to purchase the video chat package they have. Is it possible to unlock this camera some how? I have achieved root on my phone.
I have searched the forums for a possible solution, but I have found nothing.
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It's usable out of the box for me - try the mirror app from the market.
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That mirror app seems to work. Have you been able to get any of the video chat applications (like Fring) to use it? I just can't seem to figure it out. Trying to find a good application to video chat with my cousins and their iPhones.
Fring works fine for me on JM5
^With the front facing camera? Is JM5 one of the North American ROMS or Europe ones?
Fring is broken on the galaxy s. It uses the camera on the back of the phone rather than the front facing one. There is a big thread on their support forums. If you go on the camera there is a self shot mode that uses it.
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Fring is broken on the galaxy s. It uses the camera on the back of the phone rather than the front facing one. There is a big thread on their support forums. If you go on the camera there is a self shot mode that uses it.
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Is there no way to use the front camera in an actual video chat capacity... short of paying Bell?
There isn't even a way to pay bell to use it.
This thread is barking up the wrong tree, it is not Bells fault that fring is broken. Complain to fring that is what I did. They say they are working on it, but its two weeks now with no feedback.
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that blows my mind samsung would make a phone with a front facing camera with no real capability to use it.
Er, the stock camera app works just fine...
Samsung does not make the video chat software, nor should they. If they did you would likely end up with the crippled bs that is Apple factetime.
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If you don't mind using plain SIP VoIP for video chat (your friends will need to use a similar app or hunt around for SIP to whatever (Skype, MSN, etc) gateways, you may want to have a look at Sipdroid by i.p.tel (website, AppBrain link). It should support switching between front and back cameras from the video preview.
Their demo video shows video call working, but last time I tried it on my Galaxy S, the app crashed as soon as I chose send video.
Don't let that put you down, Sipdroid is open source and the outfit that supports it is much smaller and more agile than the big mastodonts like Skype&Co and their staff and community seem pretty keen on making it work well, so if you have problems, just report them on the bug tracker.
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If you don't mind using plain SIP VoIP for video chat (your friends will need to use a similar app or hunt around for SIP to whatever (Skype, MSN, etc) gateways, you may want to have a look at Sipdroid by i.p.tel (website, AppBrain link).
Their demo video shows video call working, but last time I tried it on my Galaxy S, the app crashed as soon as I chose send video.
Don't let that put you down, Sipdroid is open source and the outfit that supports it is much smaller and more agile than the big mastodonts like Skype&Co and their staff and community seem pretty keen on making it work well, so if you have problems, just report them on the bug tracker.
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Sipdroid routes audio through the back speaker, not the earpiece... which makes it unusable.
This is a known issue (link).
If it affects you, maybe you can add your comment to it so the devs may take notice. If you are a developer or know someone who is, maybe you can even help fix the problem
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Fring is broken on the galaxy s. It uses the camera on the back of the phone rather than the front facing one. There is a big thread on their support forums. If you go on the camera there is a self shot mode that uses it.
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Download the newest version of Fring, they fixed a but that was locking the phone when it uses the back camera
Its not fixed. It uses the back camera. Try it yourself.
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scouzer said:
that blows my mind samsung would make a phone with a front facing camera with no real capability to use it.
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Dude you need to read these posts better, this has nothing to do with Samsung as the camera works fine in several apps as many people have posted. There is currently a problem with FRING (FRING NOT SAMSUNG/BELL) that defaults the video chat to the back camera, if you check around you will see this is a well documented problem that Fring is working on.
i have used fring on sgs, to make video calls and it works with data plan or wifi. fring to fring users can make calls between each other , skype support has been taken out.
I am on a T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S Vibrant SGH-T959, and the hardware is clearly present.
It appears as though the hardware is there. There are two small sensors, front-facing on the top left hand corner. The one just to the right is oblong and appears to be the ambient light sensor, and the other to the left is circular and looks like a camera lens. So is this another case similar to the 802.11n & FM Tuner being disabled until the release of Froyo?
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I am on a T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S Vibrant SGH-T959, and the hardware is clearly present.
It appears as though the hardware is there. There are two small sensors, front-facing on the top left hand corner. The one just to the right is oblong and appears to be the ambient light sensor, and the other to the left is circular and looks like a camera lens. So is this another case similar to the 802.11n & FM Tuner being disabled until the release of Froyo?
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No those are the light sensor and proximity sensors. The camera is off to the right on the i9000.
Fring works fine for my front camera on JM5 and now JM6. When using the stock Bell FW though it would only use the back one.
@deception: so you can confirm that fring works on front cam with JM5 firmware? are you using a Bell galaxy s?
coz i am currently on JH2 and it only uses the back camera. if so, i'll try flashing to JM5 when i get home...
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another time no front camera for visio calls on one htc hd serie...
hd3 and desire hd have the same missing hardware...
will still with my old touch hd for the moment
WP7 doesn't support video calling at this time!
Hope gen 2 has it, Skype video to home Pc would be a great +.
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Hope gen 2 has it, Skype video to home Pc would be a great +.
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Yes that would be a pretty good feature and I suspect that most phones that come out next year will have a front facing camera.
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Why do they leave the video calling feature out... it doesnt make any sense to remove useful features on the new os.
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Why do they leave the video calling feature out... it doesnt make any sense to remove useful features on the new os.
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People don't use it, infact it's a massive flop.
Apple have tried to revive it with "facetime" but I don't think it'll get very far tbh.
actually I think it'll be more a success this time round, when it was first implemented people weren't as comfortable being in front of a cam as they are now... see chat roulette etc as proof
lol its the most pointless thing ever, especially with facetime, can only be used on wifi? ill just use my web cam on my pc then...
No body uses it, and its not going to take off... the only way it would take off is there was a chat roulett app lol.
I've had this Pixel 7 for 2 days. I like just about everything about it but the image quality of the front facing camera in video calls is embarrassing. I've searched everywhere and aside from a handful of forum posts elsewhere on the internet I don't see many people talking about this. Some going as far back as a year + with older pixel devices.
The only place the front camera looks ok is in the default camera app. I mainly use Google meet for video calls but discord, Whatsapp and Skype all have the same issue.
Anyone else have this problem? Anyone know of a way to improve the video call quality? Is Google ever going to do anything about this?
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I've had this Pixel 7 for 2 days. I like just about everything about it but the image quality of the front facing camera in video calls is embarrassing. I've searched everywhere and aside from a handful of forum posts elsewhere on the internet I don't see many people talking about this. Some going as far back as a year + with older pixel devices.
The only place the front camera looks ok is in the default camera app. I mainly use Google meet for video calls but discord, Whatsapp and Skype all have the same issue.
Anyone else have this problem? Anyone know of a way to improve the video call quality? Is Google ever going to do anything about this?
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how do you know what your video call quality look like? have you ever thought that its your internet?
It has nothing to do with the internet. The preview itself looks awful. Composing video messages on meet looks awful. Not even just video messages. Go into Meet and try and send a photo message to someone. If anyone here has had a different experience I would appreciate if you would share a screenshot from within Meet. I'm attaching a screenshot from Meet and another from the camera app both previewing the front facing camera.
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My sister asked me if I switched to new phone (Google Pixel 7) when I made my first whatsapp call to her. She was shocked to hear when I told I switched from Poco F1 and this call was from the new phone.
I have not tried any other app, but the front facing video quality sucks without doubt.
Even the photos taken from front facing cam (barring bright outdoor daylight photos) are extremely poor. This has been confirmed by several known youtube channels who are known for comparative analysis.
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My sister asked me if I switched to new phone (Google Pixel 7) when I made my first whatsapp call to her. She was shocked to hear when I told I switched from Poco F1 and this call was from the new phone.
I have not tried any other app, but the front facing video quality sucks without doubt.
Even the photos taken from front facing cam (barring bright outdoor daylight photos) are extremely poor. This has been confirmed by several known youtube channels who are known for comparative analysis.
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I tested out snapchat (an app I hadn't used in a very long time) and the image quality was so much better than in Meet. I'll be damned if I'm going to convince my family and friends to download snapchat after already convincing the iphone users in my life to install Duo just to talk to me with video.
Funny thing is Google is actively marketing right now with Snapchat to sell this phone. I keep seeing the ads on Twitter. Decent video calls in Meet are possible on this phone, they just have to make it happen.
I had a telehealth appointment for therapy yesterday and I couldn't believe how terrible my camera looked in the browser-based service they were using. This is on my Pixel 7 Pro.
I guess its all relative to what you consider as bad, I thought its good enough for goverment work...people I video call with havent complain
google likely wont do anything, its not a wide issue, or even an issue.
Vio281 said:
not a wide issue, or even an issue.
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Poor video quality on Google's video calling app on Google's current phone isn't an issue when the camera is capable of a much better image?
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Poor video quality on Google's video calling app on Google's current phone isn't an issue when the camera is capable of a much better image?
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yea but thats an opinion of a few...you expect a corporation to dedicate their time to you?
I havent seen this complaint anywhere else but here.
Vio281 said:
yea but thats an opinion of a few...you expect a corporation to dedicate their time to you?
I havent seen this complaint anywhere else but here.
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I must be asking too much for not wanting my video calls to look like I'm calling from a Gameboy. Meet looks better on the cheapest samsung phone. If this isn't making sense to you then feel free to read my previous replies again.
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I must be asking too much for not wanting my video calls to look like I'm calling from a Gameboy. Meet looks better on the cheapest samsung phone. If this isn't making sense to you then feel free to read my previous replies again.
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and I'm telling you, you are one of the few...google is not going to care what the few thinks.
If this was a problem, it would have been address a month ago.
Vio281 said:
and I'm telling you, you are one of the few...google is not going to care what the few thinks.
If this was a problem, it would have been address a month ago.
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But he's not one of the few... Google themselves says its a known issue which would indicate more than a few and worth ignoring... It is a standard problem and there are many threads on multiple sites related to it... People dont come here to have their issue downplayed...
For the naysayers, take 2 phone hand in hand and do a video call, preferably connected to the same wifi and check it out.
I used my spouse Redmi Note 9 and the image quality was way better than how Google pixel 7 projected.
Simple test, no harm done and you can review it yourself
mohan_168 said:
I used my spouse Redmi Note 9 and the image quality was way better than how Google pixel 7 projected.
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Vio281 said:
and I'm telling you, you are one of the few...google is not going to care what the few thinks.
If this was a problem, it would have been address a month ago.
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Go ahead and post your screenshots of Meet vs. the camera app, Vio. Let's see what "good enough" looks like on your $600+ phone.
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Go ahead and post your screenshots of Meet vs. the camera app, Vio. Let's see what "good enough" looks like on your $600+ phone.
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and what does that prove? I'm not disapproving your point of view...like I said, there are far and few in between, none of the major reviewer has confirm your account so why would google care what you think?
Is it good?
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Is it good?
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I like the phone. I don't have any complaints besides Google's poor image quality in their Meet app. And, you know, I'm still not over the lack of an SD card but that's just me. It's a good android phone for the money, with some cool features.
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and what does that prove? I'm not disapproving your point of view...like I said, there are far and few in between, none of the major reviewer has confirm your account so why would google care what you think?
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This guy not a major reviewer?
UPDATE: It looks like Discord fixed theirs in a recent update. Either I'm misremembering how bad Discord looked or they fixed it. Google Meet's image quality still stinks on Pixel 7.
Definitely a better experience on Discord now. Video call quality with Google Meet on Pixel 7 is still poor. Here's some screenshots for comparison.
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I like the phone. I don't have any complaints besides Google's poor image quality in their Meet app. And, you know, I'm still not over the lack of an SD card but that's just me. It's a good android phone for the money, with some cool features.
This guy not a major reviewer?
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where exactly in the video are you referring to? hes comparing the video call from iPhone 14, not necessarily saying anything wrong with the camera.