Hi there... I saw this thread in the development section called "NO FLASH!!!!!!! ICS Full Root Stock kernel LP1 I9220 and N7000" and saw in the last couple of pages that people are returning their phones for motherboard replacement!!
I'm not prepared to read 800 posts about the topic but was curious enough to ask here if any kind person are willing to explain what's going on. Are people destroying their Notes by flashing the wrong firmware?
Brgds... /Tubgirl
That isn`t the official ICS leak. I never checked that thread, but it appears as if the kernel is just messed up.
The "original" ICS leak was the Chinese I9220 one and then Chainfire repacked it.
Ics Roms are about 20x smoother than the fastest GB rom. I recommend flashing Imilka's Aosp rom.
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from what I understood, it was the angelom kernel which caused the issue.
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man when i read that i was like dam that is not a joke, and bing bang boom back to GB darky 3.4.1 rom is the greatest, as sorry ICS leaks does not worth it with all its problems it already has and now this scary threat of bricking my device due to kernels in those leaks, no way i am on GB again until an ics official release
how many of you did the same , and which rom did u go back to and why
thanks god i did not brick my device, and never ever will i jump into any leaked roms that are not first officially released
I went back to Stock + rooted (PC Odin flash) from ICS stunner (which is a great ROM btw) after reading about the risks of the leaked repack kernels from Entropy512, not to mention the various horror stories by those less fortunate than myself.
There but for the grace of God go I...
I'm going to go for the CM9 version once its a bit more mature (looks really good already on build #3), or wait until a safe kernel is brought into ICS Stunner.
The official ICS might even come out soon...not holding my breath though
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I've flashed many ICS ROMs, but I was lucky as I stick to Redpill Recovery procedure of going back to GB and never tried anything with ICS kernels (well almost as I used their CWM Recovery to flash Abyss Kernel 4.2 with Redpill). I'm daily using CheckROM with jKay MOD + DarkyOTA (for easier modifications) and for now I'm happy with it. I've checked what ICS has to offer and now I'm waiting for official version.
There is no need to stick with GB ,I just upgraded from GB to cm9 for the first time
Cm9 contains a safe kernel so you don't need to worry about flashing it .
Been on ICS for a week now
First on AOSP ICS 4.0.4 for awesome UI, next Criskelo ROM 4.0.3 for better speed.
So far so good!
Still doesn't die on me!!
Go ahead and flash it baby!
Dun be a wuzz!
Any recommendations for other ICS variants?
I am still on ICS Stunner and will stay on it. I dont see a reason for changing a stable system with awesome battery life and such great daily performance use.
Loved Stunner's roms but reverted back to GB because of the hard bricks.
Now running CheckRom V6 with AbyssNote 4.2 and Nemus Launcher. Very stable rom, fast and good battery life.
As soon as CM9 matures a bit or Stunner implements the open source kernel I'll probably flash back to ICS. Who knows, maybe Samsung will release ICS in a few weeks.
Sorry but I made a Poll here in Q&A in which I ask who hardbricked the Note with one of those kernels. Where are those bricked devices?
So far no user reported this in this boards section. At least I havent seen anyone.
FiremakerP said:
Sorry but I made a Poll here in Q&A in which I ask who hardbricked the Note with one of those kernels. Where are those bricked devices?
So far no user reported this in this boards section. At least I havent seen anyone.
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People with a dead phone might just be upset instead of filling out random polls
Here are a few unlucky people:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1629338
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1627443
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1619630
While his advice is to the leak in general, I think it is VERY clear the problem (SO FAR) has ONLY been caused by the botched Kernel by Angelom and the 1 bad version of Stunner (before fixed).
No one (reported) has EVER been bricked by any other leak/ICS Build on the Note.
There is always a risk, it could happen again with another modified ICS Kernel Build, but it is my opinion based on plain common sense and the facts that no one is going to be bricked using the ICS Leaks currently being used by MANY and having never had a problem.
crawlgsx said:
While his advice is to the leak in general, I think it is VERY clear the problem (SO FAR) has ONLY been caused by the botched Kernel by Angelom and the 1 bad version of Stunner (before fixed).
No one (reported) has EVER been bricked by any other leak/ICS Build on the Note.
There is always a risk, it could happen again with another modified ICS Kernel Build, but it is my opinion based on plain common sense and the facts that no one is going to be bricked using the ICS Leaks currently being used by MANY and having never had a problem.
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The problem resides in the leaked Samsung kernels that's the base of any and every custom ICS rom currently released in the dev section except for the CWM9 roms.
I've flashed a crapload of ICS roms in the past two weeks, I think I've been alternating between roms at least 15 times and wiped even more but that's absolutely no garantee that my luck won't run out at some point. The moment I've read the posts from people that absolutely know what they're talking about I reverted back to a GB rom. Waiting a couple of weeks for an official update beats not being able to use my Note.
Soft bricking, losing all your data, instability, battery drain, those are the 'normal' risks you should be prepared for when flashing any rom but hard bricking your device beyond JTAG repair is a major thing. It's a garanteed motherboard replacement and Samsung will not give you warranty.
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While his advice is to the leak in general, I think it is VERY clear the problem (SO FAR) has ONLY been caused by the botched Kernel by Angelom and the 1 bad version of Stunner (before fixed).
No one (reported) has EVER been bricked by any other leak/ICS Build on the Note.
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You are wrong, there have been plenty.
I'm currently using Stunner with the DAFUQ kernel. Its kinda buggy but it still beats Gingerbread. Not gonna give up my precious tablet UI!
i am one of those suckers that got bricked by this issue. it is a risk when flashing experimental leaks. it sucks the big one but i knew this was a possibilty when i started flashing. it happened after i had flashed dozens of times with different roms and mods. you just have to suck it up and realize this is always a risk no matter what you are flashing or whether you have done this before or not. luckily i had everything backed up so i have not lost much except my note for a few weeks and maybe a couple of hundred dollars. i am still waiting for mine to be repaired.
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The problem resides in the leaked Samsung kernels that's the base of any and every custom ICS rom currently released in the dev section except for the CWM9 roms.
I've flashed a crapload of ICS roms in the past two weeks, I think I've been alternating between roms at least 15 times and wiped even more but that's absolutely no garantee that my luck won't run out at some point. The moment I've read the posts from people that absolutely know what they're talking about I reverted back to a GB rom. Waiting a couple of weeks for an official update beats not being able to use my Note.
Soft bricking, losing all your data, instability, battery drain, those are the 'normal' risks you should be prepared for when flashing any rom but hard bricking your device beyond JTAG repair is a major thing. It's a garanteed motherboard replacement and Samsung will not give you warranty.
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very true man and same here.
was a very happy and heavy flashoholic in ICS untill the warning. Have been lucky sometimes by just switching to stock from ICS by Abyss kernel only not red pill even shutting down system instead of rebooting to Red pill. Lol but even after all this damm-i-may-be-hard-tym-screwed i was quite a lucky fella. Even ignored the kernel Warning by Entropy too, but lol man, a comment by a user in stunner that even copying a file more then 200mb to the Note can also fry your system, dammm i was like stoned. Even didnt tried it out against my such a good luck and bamm yesterday i was back to GB.
Even right now i am a happy flasholoic in GB by trying every version here and switching between them with a ratio of 2roms/day.
went back to RocketRom V23 myself today... will wait it out with CM9 mature versions.
I'm going to stick with ICS Stunner for the moment. I always flash Abyss and use RedPill for all 'Recovery' related things anyway.
I'm sure that soon all ROMs will be rebuilt without the leaked kernels and have all the features we currently have but, until that time, I'll keep using the leak based ROMs.
It would bother me, taking a 'step back' to protect myself against something that 'might' happen.
This is all personal preference though, I certainly do not advocate or recommend that anyone do the same as me.
Hi, I'm keen to try the new ics rom. Currently on imilka's CM9. As it's based on the Chinese leak I want to make sure I do it properly. I see chainfire has already released his rooted version. Can someone tell me if I need to revert back to stock GB via Odin first? Would it be better to wait and see what team hacksung do with the new firm ware?
Finally does anybody know if the color banding has been sorted out in the new ics?
I realise lots of people are asking similar questions in the main threads but it's a bit chaotic in there at the moment.
Many thanks.
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Yes, you have to use PC-odin to go back to GB.
Flashing anything with mobile odin or CWM risks bricking
Hi guys!!
I just got my galaxy note and flashed to checkrom gb. As coming from galaxy s2 with ics previously, i would really like to use ics on note too.
Recently i have been seeing lots of threads on users bricking their phone because of ics?!
I have tried searching and reading up few threads including the PSA in android development forum. But i still do not have a clear picture of what's going on or what's causing the brick.
Can someone explain to me what should i do or not do to prevent bricking? Still safe to use ics now? Which rom should i use?
Thank you for your time!
Better stay on GB till the sources are out.
Or if you flash ICS, do not use stock or cwm recovery.
But there's still no guarantee as few devs here said that deleting large files on ICS roms might corrupt eMMC.
Alternatively, you could flash either CM9 or Asylum custom ICS Roms. Both
these Roms contain the same safe CM9 kernel, built from SGS2 sources.
Hey, guys,
I'm talking about this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1633943
Are these issues resolved somehow? I'm sitting on ICS Stunner ROM and I'm afraid to do anything serious with my phone.
Shouldn't there be fixes when Samsung released official AOSP source of Notes' ICS?
Or am I missing something? I really want to do a completely clean install of some ROM, because my current ROM (the newest version of Stunner) works terribly, forcecloses, slugish, freezing all the time.
Can the behavior of my phone have something to do with the problem discussed in the thread I linked? (I don't understand anything in that thread )
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The issues regarding superbrick arent completely resolved. But there are Kernels for ICS wich contain a workaround. And so far noone has reported bricking with them.
It seems like the official kernel source from sammy still contained that bug. But now it has been bypassed. Still noone is completely sure yet that they are 100% safewhen it comes to wiping etc.
There is also a workaround to repartition the data section effectively bypassing any damaged areas for anyone that has a brick and no warranty.
This of course reduces the data partitions size, and it's still pot luck as to how much damage would occur.
It's also a pretty tricky operation.
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So if I want to install a stock ICS rom (the newly released one, not the old leak), I should dooo, what? Which is the safe kernel (the one with a workaround)?..
Sorry for stupid questions..
Probably worth flashing stock ics ROM, with a custom kernel that's safe. Probably best to do it in mobile Odin. Make sure you extract the firmware file and only select ROM partition, then separately point to kernel.
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I think its better to be in Stock rom what we got and never do any experiment, instead of wasting time on it to get very little stuff with high risk.
even if some work around solution is there, its very hard to understand and not all will be doing that.
I totally agree. Wait for safe ics kernels or use modified Cm9's for now.
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So just to be sure:
I use this ROM http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1646088
And a kernel? You mentioned CM9 kernel. How do I get it? Can I find it in here http://get.cm/?device=n7000 (I mean is it somehwere in the .zip?)
Or are all those franco/abbyss kernels also considered relatively safe?
Thanks for your patience
No you cant use Cm9 kernels with stock rom. If you flash a stock rom you get a stock kernel included
What if I flash chainfires kernel first and the flash stock rom?
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What if I flash chainfires kernel first and the flash stock rom?
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No, either use a GB kernel or use Franco's #3+, or SpeedMod K3-3, CF's ICS kernels are NOT safe.
Ok, so my P1000 (stock Gingerbread, bought SIM-freeon and currently on Vodafone UK) has become soooo slow over the past two years of ownership, and a minor water contact today forced a factory reset... So a clean JPZ based Tab to play with...
Been toying with the idea (in hope for better performance) to get a custom ROM from here, maybe one based on ICS (if the hardware can take it), but after a couple of days of reading through all the posts and threads, I confess I am at a complete loss: can anyone recommend a stable working ROM (even if essentially based on stock images) that could/should improve the tired tab's performance? Also, not clear: do most ROMs here come with rooting or do I then need to apply CFRoot separately? Lastly, at the time of my last post (way way back), Overcome ROMs seemed to be the way to go, but today their site is down?
Please be gentle, though I understand the basics, I am indeed a novice in this arena
Follow my signature for link to overcome new link thread
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Great, many thanks, downloading now... As a follow up, I understand this is their version of 2.3.6 (Gingerbread); don't want to be a , but was wondering if there's an ICS ROM out there for the P1000? Also, is overclocking possible on the Overcome ROM? (the idea is to try and get a device that actually runs better than stock GB, so not even sure if the hardware is up to speed with ICS)
Again, thanks and apologies for the q's, got more confused reading through the posts than I was before
There are AOSP based ICS/JB
Just look for them in dev section.
Either CM or AOKP.
You still need overcome kernel to have cwm first in order to flash them.
kernel, not ROM, OK?
Overcome should be overclockable.
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There is a relly good CM10 (JB) ROM I'm using: sapir-rom.blogspot.com It's nightly, but it works perfectly for me with very good performance.