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Bionic vs vigor

How is the bionic treating u guy's ....im up in the air with this... cause i love my tbolt..but really wanted the bionic...but at the time it wasnt out so i got the tbolt cause i wanted to be grandfathered in the unlimited data plan...but now the bionic is out im thinking about it...but also rumors about the htc vigor a.k.a incredible HD is said to be out soon. So now im in a dilema..lmao.. I know the only difference between the 2 is generally is diffrent UI, diffrent screens and 1 ghz dual core and other has 1.5 dual core....But would like other ppl input. I know it's more on what's my personal preference, but would like some of u guy's input....... Thanks in advance
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I updated to the bionic from a thunderbolt and am very happy. I actually like the bionic screen better than the thunderbolts and the battery is
A little better. I really like the fact that I can see the display outside perfect. I am not sure if a am blind but I love the display and do not know why people complain about it. I bought the bionic thinking I would return it because I wanted the prime. I decided to keep it because it was the first phone I could use outside and see the display.
For what it is worth I will also be getting the prime when it comes out. I want to try it out and if I like it better the the bionic I will keep it.
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Love my Bionic as well, I really love the screen as said above. I couldn't see the thunderbolts display outdoors, I dont have that problem with the Bionic.
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The prime isn't coming to VZW and there's no official release date for the vigor. Get the bionic. You won't b disAppointed and you'll never keep up with technology anyway. Lol.
Some quad core 1080p display phone would drop right after you get the Vigor.
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bigsapz said:
The prime isn't coming to VZW and there's no official release date for the vigor. Get the bionic. You won't b disAppointed and you'll never keep up with technology anyway. Lol.
Some quad core 1080p display phone would drop right after you get the Vigor.
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I endorse most of this comment. You're asking us to compare a phone that is out to one that isn't. There is always going to be the next big thing...
I'd say it boils down to this- do you like HTC/sense or Moto/blur more? There is your answer.
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I got a Bionic to replace an ailing Charge with the intent to do exactly what you're describing and I very well may end up keeping it. I can't remember the last time I bought a phone and immediately formed the impression that this was a device that just might last the term of my contract.

I am coming from droid incredible.
I am planning to return my bionic right before the return window is up and wait for the Vigor.
I miss HTC sense wayyyy to much. I also dont like how when you pinch to zoom it doesnt auto fill text in the new window it just zooms in.
I can see diaplay outside which is nice but motorola just isnt for me. The zumocast hasnt worked so i cant comment about that except it doesnt work.
I think i was spoiled with HTC and Sense and dont like any other ui though.
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mistawolfe said:
I endorse most of this comment. You're asking us to compare a phone that is out to one that isn't. There is always going to be the next big thing...
I'd say it boils down to this- do you like HTC/sense or Moto/blur more? There is your answer.
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@mistawolfe....think u might have a good point....i never used Moto/blur.....the tbolt is my first android phone...right now it rooted and im not even running a sense rom on it...but i did like sense....but droidth3ory turned me over to ASOP Rom.....but i do like sense....maybe ill try it out and see if i like it. I have to buy it out right with no contract...can i return it if i dont like it in the 14 days even if i buy it out right?
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Coming from a tbolt it has been great. Screen, battery, & quality (of phone) are are better on bionic. Loved my D1, bolt failed me so was given bionic. I love that the extended battery doesn't add 3 lbs to phone. I'd love to get prime if/when that comes out for VZW, but who knows what will be out around christmas.
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sporty377 said:
@mistawolfe....think u might have a good point....i never used Moto/blur.....the tbolt is my first android phone...right now it rooted and im not even running a sense rom on it...but i did like sense....but droidth3ory turned me over to ASOP Rom.....but i do like sense....maybe ill try it out and see if i like it. I have to buy it out right with no contract...can i return it if i dont like it in the 14 days even if i buy it out right?
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I'm pretty sure the 14 days is standard regardless of how you buy it.
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Guess ill find out tomorrow ..lol
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I think the vigor will be the better phone, depends on how good the battery is. Everyone knows htc and their batteries.

buy it at bestbuy instead. they got a 30 day policy that aligns with verizon's 30 day cancellation

I love my bionic. Its the best phone i ever had. Very satisfied with it had a facinate before bionic

I love my Bionic.. I've used alot of droid phones but all were Motorola so I guess my opinion might be a bit biased but my brother likes HTC phones and I've used his here and there and I prefer Motorolas build quality over anything and the Bionic is fast and has good battery life... this may be the first phone to last the term of my contract ..
I say pull the trigger and see how you like it .. best advice you can honestly get ..
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bigsapz said:
The prime isn't coming to VZW and there's no official release date for the vigor. Get the bionic. You won't b disAppointed and you'll never keep up with technology anyway. Lol.
Some quad core 1080p display phone would drop right after you get the Vigor.
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I have a couple insider friends who 1 of which will be at the Sammy event this week. He states, "whoever said the Prime, or a form of it, isn't coming to Verizon is a complete moron". lol, I will put it this way, he has never been wrong, and a lot of the "leaked" shots that have come about from phones in the last 2 years have been him or someone he knew.

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I'm pretty sure the 14 days is standard regardless of how you buy it.
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If you buy it from Costco, you get 14 days to back out of the Verizon service (I might be wrong on this, could be 30), but 90 days to exchange the phone. I bought a Charge on July 3rd, exchanged it a few days later because I thought it was defective (turns out it just has a ****ty radio), and then exchanged it again for the Bionic a couple of weeks after it came out.

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I have a couple insider friends who 1 of which will be at the Sammy event this week. He states, "whoever said the Prime, or a form of it, isn't coming to Verizon is a complete moron". lol, I will put it this way, he has never been wrong, and a lot of the "leaked" shots that have come about from phones in the last 2 years have been him or someone he knew.
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Well your brother looks like the moron Until something official comes out saYing it's going to Verizon. So far only a GSM model had been talked about. No CDMA
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bigsapz said:
Well your brother looks like the moron Until something official comes out saYing it's going to Verizon. So far only a GSM model had been talked about. No CDMA
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You are wrong. It showed in the cellubrite systems. Familiar with black_man_x or p3droid? Black man works for google (formerly Verizon) and he confirmed it.
I'll bet you my paycheck. There are two versions. Read up more
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bigsapz said:
Well your brother looks like the moron Until something official comes out saYing it's going to Verizon. So far only a GSM model had been talked about. No CDMA
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I have seen at least 2 credible people say that it is coming to Verizon. One of those people seems to have a system dump of the Prime so it looks like you are still the moron.

Droid charge for Droid bionic, Should I?

I have been offered a Droid bionic for my droid charge. Straight up trade. I was hoping you guys could provide some insight.
How do you like the bionic? Also, if any former Charge owners are lurking I would really be interested in you're opinion. I am really just biding my time til the galaxy nexus is released, so I figured the bionic would fetch a little more than my charge on the open market as well. Thanks for you're input!
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Charge to Bionic is sure to be an upgrade, provided you like the screen on the Bionic. I'd do it in a heartbeat.

wanderfowl said:
Charge to Bionic is sure to be an upgrade, provided you like the screen on the Bionic. I'd do it in a heartbeat.
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Yeah, the charge screen is amazing, but the bionic screen looks decent. Thanks
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I went through 3 Samsung Charge's and just dumped the last one on eBay. Good riddance Charge!!!
I have the Bionic now and LOVE!!!!! So the screen is not a good as the Charge. If I want to spend any time looking a screen, make it my 55" TV.
The Bionic is very fast and it works great with tethering as the Charge sucks at it.
So i say... get the Bionic is less than a heartbeat!
PS: I rooted mine, kept the stock ROM and tether it without any problems using the factory Hot Spot app. I had to make a single registry change using a $3 app. Well worth it. I use about 10-13GB data a month and VZN hasn't said squat to me.

Wheelman6969 said:
I went through 3 Samsung Charge's and just dumped the last one on eBay. Good riddance Charge!!!
I have the Bionic now and LOVE!!!!! So the screen is not a good as the Charge. If I want to spend any time looking a screen, make it my 55" TV.
The Bionic is very fast and it works great with tethering as the Charge sucks at it.
So i say... get the Bionic is less than a heartbeat!
PS: I rooted mine, kept the stock ROM and tether it without any problems using the factory Hot Spot app. I had to make a single registry change using a $3 app. Well worth it. I use about 10-13GB data a month and VZN hasn't said squat to me.
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Yeah, I took the trade. its only 1 week old. Now I have to try and sell it LOL. Nice device but not for me. Thanks
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What don't you like about it? I'm in a similar.predicament as you. I have heard a lot of negativity about this phone though.
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I'm a former Charge owner and could not be happier that I switched. I was like you and planned on picking up a Nexus, but I'm so happy with my Bionic I'm not sure I want to go back to a Samsung phone.
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radio radio radio, the reception alone is enough for the trade

jplaidlaw said:
radio radio radio, the reception alone is enough for the trade
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So are you refering to the reception being terrible on the bionic or the charge.
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the charge, not that it's notorious for it but the signal on the motorola is always better, i have personally done a side by side comparison over a 12 hour period in various locations with a co-worker, i win every time

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What don't you like about it? I'm in a similar.predicament as you. I have heard a lot of negativity about this phone though.
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Radio seems good for me, its this damn pentile screen, I can't get used to. Samsung might make some pretty crappy software but DAMN, can they make a beautiful screen....
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agreed on the screen, however when it lacks the primary function, to make and receive calls it becomes quite useless you need a super amoled paper weight

Coming from a Charge I can tell you that it will take a while to get used to the screen on the Bionic. The screen, while better than the one on the Atrix and Droid X2, is no competition for samled+. However, once you get past the screen, the smoothness and speed of the Bionic will win you over. Plus the Gig of ram is a huge upgrade over the paltry amount that you gad to struggle through with the Charge. The entire Android experience is more enjoyable on the Bionic.
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IN8skillz said:
I have been offered a Droid bionic for my droid charge. Straight up trade. I was hoping you guys could provide some insight.
How do you like the bionic? Also, if any former Charge owners are lurking I would really be interested in you're opinion. I am really just biding my time til the galaxy nexus is released, so I figured the bionic would fetch a little more than my charge on the open market as well. Thanks for you're input!
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I would say definitely go to the Bionic. Charge sucks

IN8skillz said:
Yeah, I took the trade. its only 1 week old. Now I have to try and sell it LOL. Nice device but not for me. Thanks
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Hell I'll trade you my charge for it. I've been wanting to get a bionic ever since I went to the store last week but I'm locked in to two years with this thing.

I would do it. Lol
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My Bionic was a substitute for what would have been my 4th Charge, if that tells you anything.
And honestly, the screen doesn't look bad except next to a Charge. It's quite bright and the text clarity is incredible- it's easier on my eyes for Kindle reading than any of the other phones I've used. And the difference is less noticeable over time; my girlfriend kept her Charge (for now) and I'm not bothered when picking up my Bionic after using it.

Any thoughts on moving from a Thunderbolt to a Bionic? Is that a step up or a step down? Getting kind of bored with the TB and like the Bionic when I played around with it at the Verizon store.

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Any thoughts on moving from a Thunderbolt to a Bionic? Is that a step up or a step down? Getting kind of bored with the TB and like the Bionic when I played around with it at the Verizon store.
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I'm much happier with my bionic than the bolt, the only thing is the screen doesn't look as good, but the brightness isn't a problem on the bionic like it is on the bolt.

MillionManMosh said:
And honestly, the screen doesn't look bad except next to a Charge. It's quite bright and the text clarity is incredible
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The screen is the main issue with the phone, and tu do get use to it but the text clarity is very bad at times. Black text is fine but a lot of colored text is impossible to read and white text is a nightmare if its small like text in the browser.

Where is the Developing

Is anyone even seeing all the ports being done today? SG II and LG Optimus which is crap compared to the bionic cmon guys where is the love i understand Moto is not the most loved but man...

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Is anyone even seeing all the ports being done today? SG II and LG Optimus which is crap compared to the bionic cmon guys where is the love i understand Moto is not the most loved but man...
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its not that moto isnt loved, or the bionic isnt a good phone, its that the bootloader is still locked which hinders developers and developer support

yea i know about the bootloader it sucks but i dont want to buy nexus just because its a new phone and OS well have to sit tight no choice

I honestly am happy with the bionic right now. I would like the galaxy nexus, but I much prefer to buy mods for my car than a new phone every other month. I am going to sit with the bionic for a little while and wait. Hell a quad core phone is already in development from HTC. If I keep buying new phone ill be a poor man. The bionic is so much better than the thunderbolt that I don't care one had an unlocked bootloader and the other one doesn't. The bionic is a great phone.
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nosympathy said:
I honestly am happy with the bionic right now. I would like the galaxy nexus, but I much prefer to buy mods for my car than a new phone every other month. I am going to sit with the bionic for a little while and wait. Hell a quad core phone is already in development from HTC. If I keep buying new phone ill be a poor man. The bionic is so much better than the thunderbolt that I don't care one had an unlocked bootloader and the other one doesn't. The bionic is a great phone.
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i do agree with u on the bionic being a great phone but Moto is always the same with the bootloaders dude if it didnt have it locked i would stay for it for a lonnnggg time but idk

Locked Bootloaders are only aren't the end of the world. If you wanted an unlocked bootloader, why didn't you get the LG Revolution because its unlocked. The fact is that the bionic is locked and already has more roms than the revolution which is unlocked.
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Spoke with VZW Today about ICS and Bionic

Called VZW today to replace my Bionic due to a Charging issue with the device. After informing (Tech Support Rep) aka the department that issues out replacement phones that my Bionic once plugged onto the charger it discharges. in order to get the battery to charge i have to do a "battery pull" at least twice. Last week I went into a VZW store thinking it was my extended battery had it replaced for a new one and still the same issue persist. After explaining this the Rep shipped out a replacement. He seemed pretty cool through out the conversation so I went ahead and asked about the Bionic and Android 4.0 and how upset I was that last week I read a post online that the list of Verizon phones to get ICS and the Bionic wasn't on that list mind you I also have a Xoom LTE so I threw that out there too!! so then he said hold on let me look, he didn't place me on hold i could hear him typing away i guess looking for the info on his end and he confirmed that the Bionic will be getting ICS indeed and so will the Xoom LTE be he didn't say when. let's see how much of this is true.......I wish i had something more solid to give you guys I tried!!!!!!

Well there is a soak test going on
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Anyone in on this? We can dream can't we? Lol
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Thanks for the link I wasn't lucky enough to get the E mail invite
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No worries. I didn't want to start a new thread, since yours kinda is along the same lines.
Are there any BIONIC users left? This forum is kinda slow. The droid x2 forum has more chatter going on than we do lol
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I think the Motorola Cliq forum has more activity then ours lol.
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I think the Motorola Cliq forum has more activity then ours lol.
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that's embarrassing but unfortunately not surprising. so many developers have jumped ship because the Bionic was such a disappointment. Then a month later, the Razr was released. I've said it before and I'll say it again. VZW and MOTO screwed all of us who waited for the delayed release of the Bionic. Now they are screwing us over again. The next update will probably be .904 (not ICS). the current status for ICS is still in "Evaluation and Planning".
The sad part is that MOTO still makes the best phones. HTC never did it for me and I never liked Samsung. At the moment, the RAZR MAXX is the way to go. But even they aren't sure when to expect ICS. So for now, we wait for ICS and hope that some developers come back.
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Ehh your right out forums are dead ill try to hop on more. Maybe one day I will make a full post about it, but man, waiting for the Bionic since it was announced in january, then just to have the RAZR released right after it? A kick in the ass indeed.....
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Lol well I bought the DROID X2 shortly after it came out, only to have the Bionic drop a few months later. After going through 5 replacements I bought the Bionic on CL since VZW wouldn't give me an early upgrade, only offered me a Dinc2 which I declined.
I probably won't buy another Moto product on VZW again unless they get their stuff straight.
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lhkjohn said:
No worries. I didn't want to start a new thread, since yours kinda is along the same lines.
Are there any BIONIC users left? This forum is kinda slow. The droid x2 forum has more chatter going on than we do lol
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Not really much left to say unless you want to complain [again] about the locked bootloader, lack of stable ICS and disappearance of devs. I've done all the groaning I can on this phone. After buying two, I'll get anything but Moto when it's time for an upgrade. They just don't appreciate customers.
Whoops -- more whining!

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that's embarrassing but unfortunately not surprising. so many developers have jumped ship because the Bionic was such a disappointment. Then a month later, the Razr was released. I've said it before and I'll say it again. VZW and MOTO screwed all of us who waited for the delayed release of the Bionic. Now they are screwing us over again. The next update will probably be .904 (not ICS). the current status for ICS is still in "Evaluation and Planning".
The sad part is that MOTO still makes the best phones. HTC never did it for me and I never liked Samsung. At the moment, the RAZR MAXX is the way to go. But even they aren't sure when to expect ICS. So for now, we wait for ICS and hope that some developers come back.
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Lol well I bought the DROID X2 shortly after it came out, only to have the Bionic drop a few months later. After going through 5 replacements I bought the Bionic on CL since VZW wouldn't give me an early upgrade, only offered me a Dinc2 which I declined.
I probably won't buy another Moto product on VZW again unless they get their stuff straight.
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Underwater Mike said:
Not really much left to say unless you want to complain [again] about the locked bootloader, lack of stable ICS and disappearance of devs. I've done all the groaning I can on this phone. After buying two, I'll get anything but Moto when it's time for an upgrade. They just don't appreciate customers.
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As a follow up to how much I love to hate on MOTO and VZW for a lot of what they have done, I still would not switch from either company. Before the Bionic, I had a Droid X for a year and loved every minute of it. I never had any issues (I wasn't rooting and messing around at that point). The reason I got into the rooting/ROM side of things was because the Bionic had so much bloatware and such terrible battery life that I hoped most could be fixed with a new ROM. On both fronts, yes, Liberty did miracles. But even with the extended battery, my expectations of the phone's performance have not been entirely met. In some light messing around with a friend's RAZR MAXX during the last couple of months, I have found that it is more similar to the X than the Bionic; lighter on the bloatware and heavier on the performance. MOTO also has all the accessories that HTC and Samsung don't. With both the X and the Bionic, the navigation is stellar. I use the windshield mount almost everyday which correct me if I'm wrong, is not offered by the other companies. I have also heard that Samsung's, and seen that HTC's phones do not have a reliable GPS. Finally, with Google's acquisition of MOTO Mobility nearing completion, I would hope that the developers at Google will work to streamline BLUR in the near future.

I totally agree with you CR
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I received the update to participate in the soak test yesterday. They have not pushed the test out yet as of 11:30 am CST..

This is all fine and dandy to wish for but realize this Droid Bionic, Love It! is soon to leave Verizon phone lineup due to its shortness of inventory and all the wonderful fascinating new devices that are out or coming...Do you really think the Evil Empire will actually give a new O/S to what they call an outdated device! Its just not good financial business to them! And how many times before have they "changed their minds" due to their financial gains, oh, but only to better our customer experience!

Here comes THAT thread: Jelly Bean?

Alright, everyone.
My Atrix 2 just died on me. Well, didn't die, the screen cracked open, long story.
Basically, I need a new phone.
However, because the Atrix 2 STILL hasn't gotten ICS, I swore to never return to Motorola. Yeah, it's not 100% their fault that it's taking them so long, but seriously? It's become really annoying.
So I promised to ONLY buy Android products that have the word "Nexus" in their title, phones that get DIRECT updates from Google without wait and without alterations.
Problem is, I was gonna hold out on the Galaxy Nexus since I feel like a new one must be on the horizon.
Then I heard of the Atrix HD, which, like the other Atrixes (Atrice? Atrici?) has a very amazing starting price of $100.
And now Motorola mobile is owned by Google, right?
So, the TL;DR version of it is this:
Is this phone likely to see timely and consistent updates from Google? I know it just came out, but you guys are really great at what you do, so I'm wondering what your predictions are. Is this phone likely to see Jelly Bean at all in the near future?
I'd like to buy a phone that is future proof to AT LEAST Jelly Bean.
Thanks

The updates still come from Motorola. The acquisition doesn't mean anything to the updates. But this is probably one of Motorola's flagship phones now, so it'll have to get at least Jelly bean.
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The updates still come from Motorola. The acquisition doesn't mean anything to the updates. But this is probably one of Motorola's flagship phones now, so it'll have to get at least Jelly bean.
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according to what i've read, MB models are midrange, XT models are flagship. Regardless of this being the most powerful at the moment, it's mid range. There will be a Droid RAZR HD that will surpass this quickly with an XT model number.

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according to what i've read, MB models are midrange, XT models are flagship. Regardless of this being the most powerful at the moment, it's mid range. There will be a Droid RAZR HD that will surpass this quickly with an XT model number.
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That can't be right. When the Atrix 4G launched it was the top of the line Motorola phone, the first dual core phone and won best of CES 2011. Anyway I'd have to agree with the previous poster it will eventually receive JB.

From my understanding, any device that runs ICS will be able to run JB

Well the only company that has conformed jellybean on there top of the line smartphones is htc!! And they did that yesterday only!! So i will give motorola few more days before hearing about jelly bean upgrade!! And we should understand only phone that has jelly bean is galaxy nexus!! But since motorola mobile is part of google now so we can expect faster upgrade cycle!! And mostly vanilla experience to!!
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Well the only company that has conformed jellybean on there top of the line smartphones is htc!! And they did that yesterday only!! So i will give motorola few more days before hearing about jelly bean upgrade!! And we should understand only phone that has jelly bean is galaxy nexus!! But since motorola mobile is part of google now so we can expect faster upgrade cycle!! And mostly vanilla experience to!!
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Agreed, coming from a RAZR (yesterday) I'm well aware of Moto's lag time in Android updates. I have to say, though, they did an awesome job with ICS... Took forever, but it's awesome!
I took the red pill... It's the mAtrix for me...
http://android-gz.com

Well hope its gonna be soon this time!!!cant wait for buttery smooth experience!!!
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I'm pretty happy with ICS, so I'm OK waiting a little while for JB. Motorola will probably release it in 6 months, then AT&T will delay it for 6-9 more...not that it's really OK, I wish updates were faster. They need to cut out the carrier-specific modifications!

My wife just today got the new Motorola Atrix HD. So far I think it is a very nice phone and hope she gets great service from it. I to hope that the Jelly Bean update is pushed out for this phone. Only time will tell.

According to this, the Motorola Defy will get JB and it's reasonable that the newest devices will too...
Jelly Bean for the MyTouch 4G Slide, Desire HD, and Motorola Defy
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Just noticed it's a ROM so I'm assuming this is specially made b/c of it unlocked? But here is another quote...
"These devices are all a little older than some would expect to be receiving ports. But if the HTC HD2 can get it, newer devices should be able to as well."

Motorola Defy is still running on an old modified Froyo kernel, seeing as how they never even got gingerbread.
Quarx ported Jellybean over, however.Motorola has long stopped during about the defy
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Your best bet is a to go for a Nexus device it you want something that is close to being future proof. I kind of know what you are going through with waiting for a new nexus phone part of the reason I didn't drop $350 GNex. The best advice I can say is go with the AHD for now, you can even get one for $50 on contract from best buy or amazon as long are you don't mind going with the new tiered plans.
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The good news is that AT&T isn't forcing you onto the new shared data plans...yet. I figure they'll eventually decide to do that to keep up with Verizon, but for now they look a little better because of it.

SnoMan88 said:
Your best bet is a to go for a Nexus device it you want something that is close to being future proof. I kind of know what you are going through with waiting for a new nexus phone part of the reason I didn't drop $350 GNex. The best advice I can say is go with the AHD for now, you can even get one for $50 on contract from best buy or amazon as long are you don't mind going with the new tiered plans.
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Why do people still think best buy can't keep unlimited plans? Hasn't this dumb rumor been squashed months ago? Sure there may have been some dumb bbym guy that sucked at his job and lost someone unlimited but don't bunch us all in with his uneducated ass. Come see me, I got you on unlimited.
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Why do people still think best buy can't keep unlimited plans? Hasn't this dumb rumor been squashed months ago? Sure there may have been some dumb bbym guy that sucked at his job and lost someone unlimited but don't bunch us all in with his uneducated ass. Come see me, I got you on unlimited.
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Doesn't BestBuy charge you a Restocking Fee if you decide to return anything, especially a phone? Plus certain electronics only have 15 days instead of 30 days to return an item. If this is still true...save yourself the headache and get it from Costco (at their store or online with free shipping) and they give you free accessories (see my post about Costco just a few days ago).
If BestBuy has changed their policy, good but I can't tell you how long it's been since I've stepped foot in their store because of this. It's maybe part of the reason why they're struggling with their stores and trying to hang on to their mobile wireless departments.

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Doesn't BestBuy charge you a Restocking Fee if you decide to return anything, especially a phone? Plus certain electronics only have 15 days instead of 30 days to return an item. If this is still true...save yourself the headache and get it from Costco (at their store or online with free shipping) and they give you free accessories (see my post about Costco just a few days ago).
If BestBuy has changed their policy, good but I can't tell you how long it's been since I've stepped foot in their store because of this. It's maybe part of the reason why they're struggling with their stores and trying to hang on to their mobile wireless departments.
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Totally agree with you!!! i dont buy any thing form bestbuy anymore!!!

OK.. so this thread turned from a JB discussion to Best Buy? LOL. I'm about to pull the trigger on either the AHD or GS3 and am having a tough time deciding due to the JB issue and a few others. From the sounds of most of the comments here, it doesn't appear likely that Moto will offer the JB update, or am I missing something? The GS3 is a nice phone, but the screen on the AHD is far superior and the build quality of the Moto phone seems solid. What do you guys in this forum think? AT&T will sell me either phone for 50% off, no activation fee and a credit back to my account for the CA sales tax too

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OK.. so this thread turned from a JB discussion to Best Buy? LOL. I'm about to pull the trigger on either the AHD or GS3 and am having a tough time deciding due to the JB issue and a few others. From the sounds of most of the comments here, it doesn't appear likely that Moto will offer the JB update, or am I missing something? The GS3 is a nice phone, but the screen on the AHD is far superior and the build quality of the Moto phone seems solid. What do you guys in this forum think? AT&T will sell me either phone for 50% off, no activation fee and a credit back to my account for the CA sales tax too
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You strike me as someone who intends on modding ur phone, running roms and other mods or apps that require root so that makes the decision very easy, the GS3. It comes with an unlocked bootloader, root was gained before the phone was even released, the dev support is massive, aftermarket support is amazing, and JB is coming soon! Dont like the battery life? You can use a higher capacity battery if you choose. The camera is lovely! Especially since you're gonna be getting it for half off, that makes it a no brainer!
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Gadgetz.... thanks.. Actually your assumption is a little off base and that's due to me having been an iOS person for the past 4 years. And it's also the reason I'm drawn to Android, and even moreso after having watched the various vids about JB and Google Now.. simply amazing new version of Android.
So if I understand what you're saying, you're recommending I go with the GS3 for various reasons, regardless of me not liking the blue tint on AMOLED screens. And I can understand this to some degree. Also, when you install Nova I thought it only changed the look of the home pages and icons. Are you saying that it completely changes the UI including the notification bar where you can toggle on/off for Bluetooth, GPS, Wifi, etc? Sorry, but I'm a noob. I do like the new garnet red color on the GS3 but all of them are fingerprint magnets as you know. What case and screen protector do you recommend? Already found a high end, class 10 32mb microSD for $35 on eBay.