All browsers have juddering/stuttering - TouchPad Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

For example take Dolphin HD on CM 7 Alpha 3.5, and compare it on ICS. On Alpha 3.5 the browser is buttery smooth, but on ICS there's this unmistakable "juddering" that occurs, as if frames are being skipped periodically. The same thing happens to every browser that I've tried on ICS, including the stock one.
What the heck is going on? Is it the result of ICS, or the CM9 build? It's not a "huge" deal, but it bugs me the heck out. Dolphin HD on CM7 A 3.5 had the same smoothness as an iPad, but now none of the browsers have that smoothness. I'm going craaazy.

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WOW Browser from 1.1 update is amazing

I changed it back to default...it's that good!
Is it better than using dolphin HD?
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What makes it so amazing? I am using Froyo and am fairly happy with the stock Android browser, however, it would be nice to know how the one from Eclair is
The pinch to zoom is smooth like butter and far more snappier than Dolphin HD in IMO
What kind of sites are you seeing smooth as butter zooming?
Mine is not smooth at all. Not horrible, but not smooth like you describe.
I usually use the double tap to zoom as it seems to get me to the text I'm trying to read.
Looking at sites like engadget various anrdoid sites and such.
Some heavier content sites.
Are you looking at less content heavy sites?
To me where the stock browser shines is:
Loads sites faster than dolphin which sometimes stalls for a bit not doing anything when you click a link.
Also the user agent on it actually works so I can go to some sites that will give me a non flash way to watch a show or movie streaming that would work on iphone/ipad but not on android as it wants to give the flash stream.
Otherwise Dolphin is great and 4.3 now works with pinch to zoom since the 1.1 update.
Smooth like butter? Right. Try ESPN.com, when you zoom in on the pictures it takes a while to get the pixelation right. I think DolphinHD is more crisp and less laggy at this point.
Having the lastpass plugin for Dolphin HD means it'll most likely always be my Android browser of choice.
I had Dolphin HD 4.2 installed on my previous root, but I was not pleased with the performance.
I am now using the rooted 1.1.0 with a 1.1gHz OC in the stock browser and mine is quite literally as smooth as butter.
I love it!
I also just went to rooted 1.1 with 1.1GHZ OC.
Stock browser is MUCH better, pinch zoom is very smooth, but no tabs is a killer to me.
I upgraded to Dophin HD 4.3 as pinch to zoom now works in the latest and greatest, but it seems slower than before, and pinch zoom jumps all over the place as it tries to auto correct or something.. weird.
Netcruzer said:
I also just went to rooted 1.1 with 1.1GHZ OC.
Stock browser is MUCH better, pinch zoom is very smooth, but no tabs is a killer to me.
I upgraded to Dophin HD 4.3 as pinch to zoom now works in the latest and greatest, but it seems slower than before, and pinch zoom jumps all over the place as it tries to auto correct or something.. weird.
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I get the same zoom weirdness on 4.3. I'm going to downgrade and see if that helps.
I forget to say that my rooted nookie is also OC to 1.1GHZ so that might be part of the reason why I find the stock on 1.1 so smooth now. I did upgraded Dolphin HD to 4.3 and it seems smooth as well. I have to keep testing sites out
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Having the lastpass plugin for Dolphin HD means it'll most likely always be my Android browser of choice.
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+1
BUT:
After checking out the stock browser, its definitely more enjoyable than before. I don't see it as being any smoother than Dolphin HD though. And the feature set it not quite there. But its still good to see that they improved upon it. Can only imagine what B&N's official Froyo and Gingerbread iterations will be like.
I tried the 1.1 browser for a ~10 minutes and ended up going back to dolphin.. wasn't smooth for me..
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Honeycomb vs CM7 -- hardware acceleration? Battery life? Browser?

Hi!
Have been running honeycomb on the nook since I first got it, and it's been a blast. Now I'm considering a switch to CM7, partly out of curiosity and partly due to the recent announcement that HC won't be released to the aosp for some time to come. Until now I've been okay with some of the bugs and quirks of the HC build, thinking that improvements would be just around the corner, but...
Anyway, I was just wondering:
- are there significant differences in battery life (in relation to performance) between overclocked HC, regular CM7, and overclocked CM7?
- does CM7 implement hardware acceleration of UI etc on the Nook?
Finally:
- has anyone managed to port the HC browser to gingerbread builds?
Any and all help would be much appreciated cheers
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- are there significant differences in battery life (in relation to performance) between overclocked HC, regular CM7, and overclocked CM7?
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Battery life HCv4 vs CM7 nightlies mostly same, ie not very good on standby because neither goes into deep sleep (drops ~2% per hour in standby typically), but in use really very good, e.g. CM7 n30 with dalingrin 03162011 kernel at 1100MHz and interactive governor and wifi set to sleep never I manage 8 hours solid use with screen at 25% brightness on average.
as far as i know, CM7 is based on gingerbread, whose UI is not hardware accelerated.
so for "buttery" user interface, i would choose honeycomb over gingerbread (or CM7).
- has anyone managed to port the HC browser to gingerbread builds?
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I wanna know about this, too! It would be good to know of a UI hardware accelerated android default browser for gingerbread or lower
garuhhh said:
as far as i know, CM7 is based on gingerbread, whose UI is not hardware accelerated.
so for "buttery" user interface, i would choose honeycomb over gingerbread (or CM7).
I wanna know about this, too! It would be good to know of a UI hardware accelerated android default browser for gingerbread or lower
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isnt opera mobile hardware accelerated? its much faster for me than the stock hc browser...
i too am thinking about switching to cm7 though mainly for flash, video, bluetooth support...
Animec said:
Hi!
Have been running honeycomb on the nook since I first got it, and it's been a blast. Now I'm considering a switch to CM7, partly out of curiosity and partly due to the recent announcement that HC won't be released to the aosp for some time to come. Until now I've been okay with some of the bugs and quirks of the HC build, thinking that improvements would be just around the corner, but...
Anyway, I was just wondering:
- are there significant differences in battery life (in relation to performance) between overclocked HC, regular CM7, and overclocked CM7?
- does CM7 implement hardware acceleration of UI etc on the Nook?
Finally:
- has anyone managed to port the HC browser to gingerbread builds?
Any and all help would be much appreciated cheers
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Wow, this needs some updating. See sig for more info.
CM7 has excellent (stock or better) battery life, full hardware video acceleration, and is the bees knees. The OC kernel is about same as far as battery life goes.
HC is pretty good, not as good as CM7, but given only the sdk, I say it's pretty amazing.
Yes Opera is hardware accelerated in ui
I wanted to like opera, but I just can't. I do find Dolphin to be a nice option instead.
CM7 does have better standby under development. The 3.1 beta got me 3+ days of mild use, and I was still at 34%. HC builds must overcome pretty much all issues before I can leave CM7 behind.

Galaxy S I9000 smoother?

Hello,
I just used a friend's galaxy s with the go launcher ex (samsung 2.3.3 stock rom) and I noticed that the transitions are extremely smooth ( I would say 60fps always) instead the transitions on my 2x with cyanogemond lastest nightly is definitely not that smooth.
How's this possible? is this because of the bad drivers or tegra 2 is just worse?
Hello!
Did you use GO Launcher Ex on your O2x? If not your are comparing to different launchers.
GO Launcher Ex is a little faster than the ADW Launcher that comes with CM7.
BTW: If you in need for more speed you could try ironkrnL.
HI! Of course I'm talking about the same launcher
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HI! Of course I'm talking about the same launcher
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But not the Same build type of rom. I'm on Paul's gr5, I use launcher pro plus which is SUPER smooth. I also tried go launcher ex on gr5 and its really smooth. So I would guess its cm7 that's stopping it from being really smooth and snappy.
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I sold my Galaxy S for the O2X, and I don't regret it. The samsung galaxy S is definately not faster than the O2X, I had it for a week and i got irritated with how slow it was. So must be Go Launcher Ex running smooth, but the phone isn't
If your friend's SGS had an AOSP firmware or was using stock Samsung firmware with a lag fix, then it's very possible to get butter smooth transitions on the homescreen (regardless of whatever launcher is used). I haven't seen how smooth the O2X is, but the SGS can get pretty close to the smoothness of iOS with the proper tweaks and firmware.
makes sense..
the better smoothness also happens with the samsung galaxy player 4.0 I just got. I hope when nvidia releases the source code things will be better because these devices with single core cpus are just snappier than the 2x :S
My gf has a sgs I have oc'd it and I am using my o2x we both use go launcher and even her running 1.25ghz and me running stock 1ghz there is no contest my phone running weapon g2x dominates her stock rom running speed, and smoothness. Maybe its cm running bad or your phone running poorly....
Making bad decision's one at a time.
Samsung added H/W acceleration into some things, including the web browser
I tried the SGS with cm7 -> go launcher animations silky smooth
O2x with stock GB -> go launcher not that smooth like cm7, when you pinch out with two finger to see all the windows of the launcher it skips frames, on the SGS it look 60fps even when you open the app drawer with zoom animation the SGS wins hands down with both ROMs, the O2X is not smooth.
I also noticed that the O2X creates some odd artifacts in animations (pixelation and aliasing in lines), I noticed this too when I tried ICS sandwich alpha build when you try to scroll unscrollable windows to the wrong direction of the launcher and you get that skew effect.
All this is not to diminish the o2x but to understand whose fault it is.
#1 bad drivers from NVIDIA/LG/whoever is involved?
#2 lack of source code? (but even the stock roms show the problem)
#3 some lack of GPU instructions of the tegra 2 like NEON maybe?
#4 go launcher doesn't use tegra 2 to its potential (due to reason #3?)
It would be great to test, say the galaxy R with tegra 2 to see how it performs
Maybe someone can port those settings to 2X , It's really smoth !
There is such videos on youtube and the reviewer says the Galaxy R is choppy in menus, but the browser looks smooth.
but i saw my friend using i9100 with go Ex is very laggy...
oh yes.. he is using stock rom
My friend have a SE Xperia Arc with CM7.2 RC1 (the FXP114 KANG) and I have CM7.2 RC1 Temasek's KANG on my Optimus 2x.
On Xperia Arc Go Launcher is silky smooth even with 3D transition like sphere or cylinder. I also verified the transition speed in Go Launcher settings and they are the same (Default at 60)
It's not like my LG Optimus 2x is laggy, it's now 150% better than stock froyo with stock launcher. But there is smoother...
Oh yeah, I tested supercharger V6 and it changed nothing (I don't say it's not a good script, it just not helped my phone).
Yeah, its a combination of things that make our o2x slow
Lack of NEON, Improper NVIDIA support, no HW acceleration
one solution is make a opengl rendered launcher, but it will eat some battery...
The o2x is not choppy, with stock lg launcher yes but not with anything else is very quick.
with adw launcher ex is best for me
Uber smooth with tw launcher for me.
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read this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27182839&postcount=33

o2x browsing sucks, why?

Hello,
I just got a "Player" called Samsung galaxy player 4.0 which is basically the Samsung galaxy s without the phone antenna.
It has android 2.3.5 and the browser is extremely SMOOTH, iphone like!
Plus skype video call is much better in quality.
Skype apart, why is the browser so much worse on the lg with a GPU like the tegra 2? Is this all because of LG non-optimization?
you got that player for optimus 2X?
Also i was wondering the same about LG and optimization... my previous phone was a samsung galaxy mini with ginger 2.3.4 and it was smoother at browsing and at menus than O2X ... even now that im using CM7..weird
Actually, LG did not make any browser tweaks to make browsing smoother. It's just normal android performance.
Samsung did some black magic on their phones that makes the browser extra smooth.
I would suggest you try opera mobile that does not use the default tweaks, and see how smooth that is, on both phones.
Afaik its because it has gpu accelerated browser.
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Bingo.
Samsung built H/W acceleration into their browser.
The o2x has gpu flash acceleration so bleh!
Iv never owned a Samsung android phone so i cant compare but browsing is pretty dam fast on the o2x so maybe your have been spoiled.
If it's a different browser, one could use tile rendering (I think that's what it's called.). I don't know the geeky specifics but I believe it means the phone doesn't render the whole page, just blocks of it that you see at the current zoom level. It's also how the iPhone renders the web pages. Hence why it's so smooth. Hardware acceleration doesn't solve everything
Have you tried Opera Mobile?
it's much better then stock browser,
but still, not quite smooth as i9100.
And if you don't like opera then you could try dolphin browser hd.
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Firefox is quite usable now too and has acceleration.
nisamtetreb said:
Firefox is quite usable now too and has acceleration.
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firefox is **** for android don't even mention that turd again, it doesn't even support html5 videos ffs. They need to remove that embarrassing crap from android market.
I had only problems with firefox. It needs much more work. I use Opera and I dont have any problems with browsing. Everything is pretty smooth.
I meant the beta, they improved it and the desktop sync is unique, I want that feature. Aurora nightly has better GUI but no sync.
nisamtetreb said:
I meant the beta, they improved it and the desktop sync is unique, I want that feature. Aurora nightly has better GUI but no sync.
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So it has one decent feature one that i wouldnt even use anyway, it uses all your ram, doesn't support flash doesn't support html5 and.has caused.my.phone to restart when exiting it its pure garbage i won't touch it till they bin the devs working on it.
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when I was on stock froyo/gb.. i found that 720p youtube videos viewed in the browser skipped a lot of frames. but on a Samsung Galaxy S it was quite smooth
anyways 720p youtube vids are fine now on CM7 temasek build 23
For me Dolphin Browser is the best for android, Never seen Galaxy S2 stock browser working
CVonV said:
when I was on stock froyo/gb.. i found that 720p youtube videos viewed in the browser skipped a lot of frames. but on a Samsung Galaxy S it was quite smooth
anyways 720p youtube vids are fine now on CM7 temasek build 23
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Ridiculous.... iv never seen any lag or skips. The o2x has gpu flash acceleration as well.... the Samsung galaxy s does not so why is this the first iv ever heard either of those statements...
eraldo said:
Ridiculous.... iv never seen any lag or skips. The o2x has gpu flash acceleration as well.... the Samsung galaxy s does not so why is this the first iv ever heard either of those statements...
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why is it ridiculous when i'm telling you that that's how it was for me?
on stock froyo/gingerbread.. 720p youtube playback on the LG browser is lagged.. frames skipped everywhere. and it was the same on opera/dolphin hd/ff with the latest adobe flash installed.. 480p was perfectly smooth though
my friend's SGS gingerbread (wasn't sure if it was custom or stock) played 720p with no lag at all in the browser
i am telling you exactly what happened.. this is on stock stock. no mods. just pure out of the box vanilla.
Is the flash player still gpu accelerated, when it's updated from market?
CVonV said:
why is it ridiculous when i'm telling you that that's how it was for me?
on stock froyo/gingerbread.. 720p youtube playback on the LG browser is lagged.. frames skipped everywhere. and it was the same on opera/dolphin hd/ff with the latest adobe flash installed.. 480p was perfectly smooth though
my friend's SGS gingerbread (wasn't sure if it was custom or stock) played 720p with no lag at all in the browser
i am telling you exactly what happened.. this is on stock stock. no mods. just pure out of the box vanilla.
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[Q] Most stable Android distro for TP?

What is the most stable version of Android for the Touchpad? I'm just looking to run ezPDF only, so I don't care about video games, playing movies, or audio. I just want something that will charge and not spaz out on me.
I have had great luck with AOKP. On any TP rom, if you have random reboots you may have trouble raise the minimum CPU speed a bit. After doing that it has been very stable for me.
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CM7 Xronified 2.9.1
All the benefits and depedability of Cyanogenmod rom, tweaked to look and work just fine
This is my nandroid go to backup when I get tired of the bleeding edge ICS roms (lol)
I have had no issues running vanilla CM9 and it seems to run much better than CM7

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