Okay so i had the revo before this and i liked it. I rooted it and it was great, ran custom roms, and really easy to do. I just got the bionic and i have had it for about 2 weeks now and I LOVE IT!!! So my question is, and correct me if im wrong, if there are no custom kernels, and only one stable updated rom thats not buggy ics, what is the point in rooting. I should add that i dont plan on using wifi tether. I mean i use adw so my phone already "looks" like i want it to, and acts like i want it too. The only thing i think i would use is the fact that the bloatware is gone but does it really make that big of a difference? I mean if i can like make the display look better or something than of course, but if its just for the look, no performance upgrades, i dont seenthe point. Please give me your guys opinion.
Thanks for all who respond and appreciate your time
Lots of benefits to rooting. Here's a random one.
tuckmobile said:
Lots of benefits to rooting. Here's a random one.
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Yea I mean that's cool, what are the benefits of Beta over regular or a keyboard like touch pal.
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Personally I haven't found the need to root my Bionic. Going on six months now I think. Had the Eris before this and rooted it to get a faster phone(Bionic is fast enough), to tether(Bionic can do it wired for free and wireless without root using FoxFi), to move apps to sd due to storage limitations (Bionic has plenty of room and lots of stuff can be saved or moved to sd). ROMs are a bonus, but they are always a work-in-progress and most being updated regular, so you always have to reinstall so more stuff will work. My Bionic just works.....................
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Personally I haven't found the need to root my Bionic. Going on six months now I think. Had the Eris before this and rooted it to get a faster phone(Bionic is fast enough), to tether(Bionic can do it wired for free and wireless without root using FoxFi), to move apps to sd due to storage limitations (Bionic has plenty of room and lots of stuff can be saved or moved to sd). ROMs are a bonus, but they are always a work-in-progress and most being updated regular, so you always have to reinstall so more stuff will work. My Bionic just works.....................
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I agree completely
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Lots of programs will have more functionality when your device is rooted. If you use a security program like SeekDroid or Avast you'll benefit from root. With root you can install custom recovery, allowing you to backup/restore your entire system. If you haven't tried a custom ROM you don't know what you're missing. Sure they are always a work in progress, but so is the Stock ROM. Try eclipse I bet you'll like it better.
Let's flip your question around: what's the disadvantage to rooting? You can always unroot.
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Personally I haven't found the need to root my Bionic. Going on six months now I think. Had the Eris before this and rooted it to get a faster phone(Bionic is fast enough), to tether(Bionic can do it wired for free and wireless without root using FoxFi), to move apps to sd due to storage limitations (Bionic has plenty of room and lots of stuff can be saved or moved to sd). ROMs are a bonus, but they are always a work-in-progress and most being updated regular, so you always have to reinstall so more stuff will work. My Bionic just works.....................
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I'm rooted but use stock. I'm able to replace my boot animation with something more to my liking. My status and notification bar is also customized. Having pulldown toggles is nice for turning things on and off. Being able to flash the webtop hack is nice. I've also found that I enjoy changing my font.
Besides those things, its much easier to back up some apps when your rooted. If you ever buy any apps, I suggest backing them up. Being able to make system backups is also useful.
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Would you recommend me to stay on rooted stock 1.1 (i cant download from the market for some reason) or should i flash nookie froyo on it?
I stayed with rooted 1.1. NF is nice as well, I just like the stock reader app better. Haven't played with HC or CM7, still waiting for them to mature a bit more.
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When all else fails, RTFM.
I would make a decision...
Move as far as possible away from the stock experience, or just keep it completely stock.
The whole point in rooting is to give you more options. What's the point in options if you don't explore them? You don't have to agree with them, or keep them, but the idea is to grow with them...
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Why must you choose one when you can just dual boot? Dual boot it for a while and see which one you like better.
If you feel like trying something other than stock, I would recommend cyanogenmod, I have been running it for a while now and it keeps getting better.
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i hear the battery dies to fast.
I would try a variety.
I'm using Phiremod now off of a bootable uSD. I used Verygreen's tool to create it. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1000957
I just used extracted the gz until the zip appeared and renamed it as suggested in the docs.
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Would you recommend me to stay on rooted stock 1.1 (i cant download from the market for some reason) or should i flash nookie froyo on it?
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What are you looking to do?
I started down the path of rooting my NC about three weeks ago, but I knew that would be the case the moment I bought it. However, I also tested out the experience of Froyo and HC by using bootable SDs. It gave me a good feel for what I was missing and what was worse, and then ultimately I jumped aboard the CM7 train.
But without having any requirements from you, it's not like anyone can really recommend an option. Certain features are clearly require newer Android builds (a lot of apps I found needed 2.2 minimum). Squeezing more performance requires certain kernels. Bluetooth from the latest CM7 etc.
i dont want cm7 because of the battery, i want to know if froyo is better then stock.
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i dont want cm7 because of the battery, i want to know if froyo is better then stock.
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Not sure what you've experienced or heard, but as long as you have the right settings, the battery lasts a while. I usually charge mine every 3rd day and that's with moderate use. Heavy use is every other day. I get 6-8 hours of active use. What kind of battery life are people getting with froyo?
Dual boot period.
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The Bionic is my 5th Android and they all have been rooted and had custom roms installed. Before I root it and get to installing custom roms, I would like to know what each one does well and what their weaknesses are. I don't currently have the time available to install them and play with them all like I normally do, so I'm asking the users who are currently using them.
3 things that are important to me: performance, battery life, and would like the camera not to take 5 seconds after clicking it before taking a picture(wouldn't care about this but have kids that I would like to take pictures of). I would also like to install custom boot screens (after owning the lg revolution, I now know that custom boot screens aren't always an easy task).
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The Bionic is my 5th Android and they all have been rooted and had custom roms installed. Before I root it and get to installing custom roms, I would like to know what each one does well and what their weaknesses are. I don't currently have the time available to install them and play with them all like I normally do, so I'm asking the users who are currently using them.
3 things that are important to me: performance, battery life, and would like the camera not to take 5 seconds after clicking it before taking a picture(wouldn't care about this but have kids that I would like to take pictures of). I would also like to install custom boot screens (after owning the lg revolution, I now know that custom boot screens aren't always an easy task).
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Unl3ash3d: Blur based and stock feel, but with extra mods and an extra pretty theme. Pulldown toggles.
Liberty: Stripped down, AOSP (as much as it can be) and a speed demon. Pretty lightweight. Lots of free RAM here. Pulldown toggles. Reboot and other options in the extended power menu.
Which one is better? Matter of taste. Do you fancy the new blur we have? If yes, go Unl3ash3d. Do you want a stripped down, clean, AOSP vanilla gingerbread feel? Go Liberty.
Battery life I couldn't tell you, as I never ran Liberty through a full discharge. I'm a (new)blur kind of guy - it's grown on me. Unl3ash3d gave me battery issues on some early builds, but this latest is great and gets me the best battery life I've had to date.
Both have different themes available for them, so that's equal as well.
Good luck.
P.S. When Eclipse drops in here, give that a whirl. Smooth.
As far as the camera goes, I agree that the stock one is pretty unusable compared to other phones. Both Liberty and Unl3ash3d have replaced the stock camera app with ones that I find work much faster and better.
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I definitely appreciate this thread and would love to see more discussion from those with experience with the various roms. I've just switched from the Atrix to the Bionic and from some of the comments, I wasn't even sure if it was worth switching to a custom rom or not. Obviously they each offer some benefits, but complaints about battery life were a bit concerning. I also wasn't clear on how much faster/smoother any of them performed compared to stock (though it's pretty nice in stock form already).
As of now I'm rooted and running go launcher without any huge complaints, though I like to tinker and customize stuff, so that alone is driving my interest in running a rom, though I'm still having trouble with taking interest in a particular option.
CC Lemon, don't let the complaints about the existing roms scare you. This is still a relatively new phone and it takes time for the devs to work the bugs out. Over time, they will be worked out.
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CC Lemon, don't let the complaints about the existing roms scare you. This is still a relatively new phone and it takes time for the devs to work the bugs out. Over time, they will be worked out.
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I wouldn't say that it scares me... I'm just not convinced there's anything I should be trying yet. I'm sure we'll see some great roms eventually, but I'm not looking for something that I'll update every time a new version is released, so I'd like something with as few bugs as possible. My post was mostly directed at trying to figure out if any current roms in their current form are worth using or if I should just wait until more bugs are worked out.
The recent CM7 developments definitely sound promising. I know it's just a matter of time before I decide to flash something, but the question is when and what.
Hello Everyone. I am a long time Android User, new to rooting.
Before I get too deep in this I had a general question....
I have a Droid 3 that I am finding to be slow compared to my stock Google Nexus One. I really enjoy the qwerty keyboard and don't want to go back to my Nexus, However the lag in the contacts autofill indexing and email autofill indexing is Killing Me.
I run my email, calendar, and contacts etc through the gmail/ google apps platform and REALLY want to get the speed I had with my Nexus One on my Droid3.
What would you recommend?
How can I speed this thing up and still have a very reliable phone?
I also need to be able to use the following features (which work now):
wifi hotspot
tethering
hdmi out
bluetooth
calendar
Thank you so much for any insight you can provide. I am really impressed with the knowledge base on this forum.
Much Appreciated.
I am by no means an expert in Android devices but can definitely tell you that the 'slow down' you are experiencing is due largely in part to the poor ROM/Skin that is built onto the phone by Motorola and Verizon.
I would recommend rooting and trying out one of the custom ROM's in the Android Development section.
I have an XT860 so there are no ROMs really available at this point but from my experience with my HTC Desire Z, there was a night and day difference in speed and usability of the phone after I rooted it and began using custom ROMS.
For the Droid 3, 'Steel Droid' seems to be a very popular ROM, but again I don't have any direct experience with it because its not compatible with the XT860 (Canadian GSM variant of the D3)
Hope that helped a bit...
i use steal droid its great. renaming your bloat to .bak will speed up your d3. if you do use steel droid just flash dlna back.
I am reasonably intelligent person, confident with technology, but am finding it difficult to make sense of many of the posts because of the jargon.
Is there a cliff notes version on how to do this?
I rooted my phone with the 1 click root.
I have also installed Droid3 Bootstrapper (but I dont know what it does?)
I believe this helps me build a backup in case the ROM fails?
Where do I go from here?
Thank you!
its also for flashing roms in the form of .zips
Check out this thread in the development section, it is for Steel Droid specifically but in the first post, just after the changelog, he gives pretty good instructions on how to flash the ROM.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1278056
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I am reasonably intelligent person, confident with technology, but am finding it difficult to make sense of many of the posts because of the jargon.
Is there a cliff notes version on how to do this?
I rooted my phone with the 1 click root.
I have also installed Droid3 Bootstrapper (but I dont know what it does?)
I believe this helps me build a backup in case the ROM fails?
Where do I go from here?
Thank you!
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Be like me my friend. Just start searching around the xda forums, on google, rootzwiki, etc. Start absorbing information. I started with a normal Droid 3, and within 3 or 4 days, I found out just about everything I needed to know. You are correct about bootstrap, and it also allows you to install system files, theme files, kernel files, etc.
I would recommend Liberty. It's mostly AOSP (Android Open Source Project) which means it's not bogged down by Motocrap. It flies, you can still have some blur elements and I have not experienced a single bug.
U need to root, install custom recovery, then I recommend installing a stock android rom from the android development section. Also try SetCPU to raise your processing power. But as said, the speed is mosly do to bloatware. You can also remove these without installing a rom, using root unistaller( must find of internet). Must be rooted though.
Please thank me if I helped.
Just my 2 cents, contrary to others I won't necessarily recommend flashing a CUSTOM Rom. But definitely update to the 5.6.890 to see an increase in battery life and performance, and root your phone so you can debloat.
I have seen no real improvement between custom ROMs besides the themes and user experience. however if you are satisfied with how your phone is running and have required apps you need to work, i'd just debloat the stock ROM yourself. it will be a lot faster with the bloatware frozen using an app like titanium backup. a lot of the custom ROMs end up having bugs, especially Liberty seemed to be causing trouble for some folks before the update. but basically all the speed improvements people are seeing is from the apps removed from running in the background that you don't need, so do that and youre good to go.
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I am reasonably intelligent person, confident with technology, but am finding it difficult to make sense of many of the posts because of the jargon.
Is there a cliff notes version on how to do this?
I rooted my phone with the 1 click root.
I have also installed Droid3 Bootstrapper (but I dont know what it does?)
I believe this helps me build a backup in case the ROM fails?
Where do I go from here?
Thank you!
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CHECK THIS OUT http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1238472 THEN USE THIS http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-1192795.html TO DELETE THE REST THAT THE FIRST DOESNT COVER. I KNOW THE SECOND IS FOR A DIFFERENT PHONE BUT DONT WORRY IT IDENTICAL. I PERSONALLY DELETED THEM. AFTER I CLLEANED UP DAVLIK CACHE AND MY PHONE FLIES ON STOCK ROM.
THEN DO YOUR SELF A FAVOR AND MAKE YOUR CAMERA BETTER WITH THESE SIMPLE THINGS. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1271927&page=2, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1326101
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U need to root, install custom recovery, then I recommend installing a stock android rom from the android development section. Also try SetCPU to raise your processing power. But as said, the speed is mosly do to bloatware. You can also remove these without installing a rom, using root unistaller( must find of internet). Must be rooted though.
Please thank me if I helped.
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What settings have you done in SetCPU??
I was having major issues with SetCPU when I originally set it up...
This was also when the phone just got rooted too though...
I thought we needed a modded kernel to do any CPU clocking things...?
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What settings have you done in SetCPU??
I was having major issues with SetCPU when I originally set it up...
This was also when the phone just got rooted too though...
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Set cpu will only allow you to underclock and change governor. I would only suggest switching the governor to performance, which beware will drain your battery faster, because its reported that other than stock governor and performance cause phone to act goofy.
Cannot overclock yet, we may not be ever be able to because **** bootloader locking.
Just Froze most of the bloat ware using the free Bloat Freezer in the market and am already experiencing improved performance!!! Thank you all so much!
Okay I just got a free Revo and currently have a Droid X. I want to use the Revo but the stock setup sucks, I want to root and get a stable/functional Rom on here. What Rom would that be? Also would I bide able to hack to use WiFi teather?
Thanks
There is really only one custom ROM for the Revo, called Broken Out. I'm using version 1.1, but there is a version 2 available. There seems to be mixed results with all versions for users. I think it works well of you don't overclock it and get things how you want then, then allow a few days for the system to kind of sort itself out. After that I recommend just leaving it alone and not doing constant tweaking. The Revo just doesn't like a lot of change for some reason. Also, for best performance and stability, try to leave about a gig of memory free and 100 mb of ram free by not having too many apps set up to constantly run. And yes, you can do wifi tethering. I haven't used it lately, but have used foxfi. It worked fine, but I believe they've changed it so that the free version only works for short intervals at a time now. I imagine there are better alternatives.
Thanks for the quick response, do you think it's worth switching from a RD.
I'm not sure I've come across that term. What's an RD?
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I'm not sure I've come across that term. What's an RD?
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Sorry an DX (droid x)
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Well, if you're really into customization, probably not. On the other hand, if 4g speeds are important to you, then yes. Also, though I don't know how much memory the DX has or how much you need, the Revo's 16 gigs of storage is a nice element as well.
I owned a DX and its a good phone no costomisability cuz of locked BL but the revo has a little more ram and a lot more memory that can be used for everything not just apps like the DX so yea there both pretty lacking in the SW development area but yea good switch at least my bro thinks so...
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I've been using the revolution for about one week now and although kagg
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Well Im no noob to rooting.. rooted the Samsung moment , og evo, and evo lte.. some reasons for rooting were battery life, theming , faster.. well the HTC one seems fast, the theme is great, and battery life decent..
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I do it for for stuff like % battery, changing cpu/scheduler settings for better battery, debloating, ect. So you are the only one who can decide.
If you had to ask, you don't need to.
I don't say that as a pejorative. You're asking because you don't have a thing you need to do that requires root. So you don't need to.
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I usually run stock for at least a few months but the HTC One I rooted maybe after a week. The dot dot dot drives me nuts since HTC decided a menu key is not needed. The menu key is needed and it's still nice to have even on ICS compliant apps. There is room for it, I love this phone except for no menu key.
It's always worth it to gain root access. Wifi Tetethering alone will justify it. And to be honest, rooting is usually not good enough. It's in your interest to flash a custom ROM; there is a lot to be gained. There is a reason we're on Android and not iOS or Windows Phone and the benefits we gain from rooting is one of them. (This is not a jab at other platforms, I hate everything equally)
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It's always worth it to gain root access. Wifi Tetethering alone will justify it. And to be honest, rooting is usually not good enough. It's in your interest to flash a custom ROM; there is a lot to be gained. There is a reason we're on Android and not iOS or Windows Phone and the benefits we gain from rooting is one of them. (This is not a jab at other platforms, I hate everything equally)
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Yeah I just went right the rooting process after having the phone for two days, simply for WiFi access. Also the custom ROM doesn't hurt (running Viper right more and will wait for CM10.1 to catch up). Will try the custom kernel to get the swipe to turn on/off, real soon.
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So since we don't have s-off, do I need to root the phone just like I did before using joeys gui flash?
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So since we don't have s-off, do I need to root the phone just like I did before using joeys gui flash?
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Never used that application as it seems like it really doesn't offer anything outside of what GooManager and/or ROM Manager already offer. You may not have to root the phone, but you'll likely need to unlock the device with no S-OFF. The rooting process on this device isn't that difficult, and the videos on the forum from QBKing and wwJosh are solid and walk you through the process. All you really have to do is follow some simple instructions and use copy and paste.
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Main 2 reasons I root my phone's:
1)tethering, hardly ever use it so it's not worth paying the sprint fee, but when u need it u are glad u have it
2)ad blocking apps
As far as flashing kernals and hboots I usually don't fool with it. I find a nice stable customized Rom built off stock and stick with it usually.
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It's always worth it to gain root access. Wifi Tetethering alone will justify it. And to be honest, rooting is usually not good enough. It's in your interest to flash a custom ROM; there is a lot to be gained. There is a reason we're on Android and not iOS or Windows Phone and the benefits we gain from rooting is one of them. (This is not a jab at other platforms, I hate everything equally)
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I would have to disagree with that; I actually prefer to stick with stock if at all possible. Sometimes there is a ROM out there that has such better performance all around to justify a switch (mostly Carbon-style ROMs that are minimalist), but I take satisfaction in running stock.
Rooting is also useful if you want to enable various features like GPS toggling/Airplane mode toggles for tools such as Tasker or Power Toggles, or to freeze/remove bloat.