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[Q] CM7 on SD memory usage question

I have CM7 stable booting off an 8G SD card. Once I registered Google nicely downloaded all the apps I have on my phone. I'm slowly adding and removing apps as I tweak my Nook. At one point when I tried to install an app it failed with an insufficient memory error. Thinking this was like my phone I went through and moved a bunch of apps to the "SD card". The app still wouldn't install. It wasn't until I uninstalled several unneeded apps that I was able to install the one I wanted.
I don't have my Nook in front of me but did look at the various memory sizes several times and always had plenty of internal and SD free memory. Obviously everything is on the SD card but I thought that moving from "phone" to "SD" might be moving from one partition to the another.
So how does the memory scheme work in this case that so it prevented me from installing? Does moving from Phone to SD actually accomplish anything in this case? Curious minds (well one anyway) want to know.

[Q] Internal SD Memory issues

Hello everyone, I'm using SGS I9000, with Darky's V10.1 ROM. I recently discovered that my memory space have become extremely low, System Storage has only 1.53GB Storage available space. However, there is a category called USB Storage, where a total space of 13.43GB, with 11.53GB available. I have no external SD card inserted.
So i go to memory usage area, and i try to shift some apps to the "usb storage", apps like angry birds, adobe reader etc, but it gives me this error message "Failed to move application. Not enough memory."
Anyone know what's wrong with my phone?

aksyong said:
Hello everyone, I'm using SGS I9000, with Darky's V10.1 ROM. I recently discovered that my memory space have become extremely low, System Storage has only 1.53GB Storage available space. However, there is a category called USB Storage, where a total space of 13.43GB, with 11.53GB available. I have no external SD card inserted.
So i go to memory usage area, and i try to shift some apps to the "usb storage", apps like angry birds, adobe reader etc, but it gives me this error message "Failed to move application. Not enough memory."
Anyone know what's wrong with my phone?
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you have 2 SD in your SGS, one internal and one external

The problem is, i don't have 2 SD in my SGS right now. There's only the internal one, and there is no external sd card inserted in my phone. How can it be possible that my internal memory space has only 1.53GB space left when i don't have much stuffs installed at all?

i9000 has 3 different storages Eg : 16GB
2GB - Phone Storage (ROM)
14GB - Internal SD (Internal Storage)
XGB - External SD (renamed to USB Storage)
Normally the applications are installed in Phone Storage. Don't know why cannot move to "Internal Storage". Only can move to "USB Storage".

Thanks for the clarification, does that mean the internal SD is totally useless? Or just for you to store music/pictures ETC?

I have the same problem: my phone has the orange sd card on the slide down menu which say "internal memory full"
I have no apps other then a timer, a virusscanner and whatsapp and then all the apps that come with the phone. All the files I have on the phone I have stored on the external SD.
I deleted all my sms messages, whatsapp chats and I even uninstalled whatsapp to make sure that it's not that, but it still says my internal memory is full.
When I look at the apps, Thinkfree is the biggest program on it with 9mb, followed by Adobe Reader with 8mb.
What can be done? I have this phone for not even 6 months now and I'm ready to brick the phone but by this I mean: throw a f*cking brick on it!

Why can't I save apps on my internal SD card?

Why does my Captivate only limit me to having 2GB of space for apps? I'm not using an external SD card and I want to install my apps onto my internal SD card or atleast move them there.

It's been a while since I have been on a stock ROM so please correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe you can move at least some of the apps by going to settings / applications and then, in the individual application settings, select "Move to SD."
I know you can't move widgets or alarm applications because they will break if they aren't on internal memory, but you should be able to move games, etc. with no problem.

Move to SD was not available on Eclair... what are you running?
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I'm on 2.2 right now. There is an option to move to SD but it only moves it to external SD not the internal one. It's split up into 3 sections
Internal Memory
Internal SD Card(I want apps to go here)
External SD card

muh316 said:
I'm on 2.2 right now. There is an option to move to SD but it only moves it to external SD not the internal one. It's split up into 3 sections
Internal Memory
Internal SD Card(I want apps to go here)
External SD card
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Ah, now I understand. I never had enough apps on Froyo to play with moving them but shooting from the hip, have you tried removing your external card and see if it will let you move them then? If not, I know that there are apps2sd applications on the market that should help you, but I haven't used any of them to give you a recommendation.

apbthe3 said:
Ah, now I understand. I never had enough apps on Froyo to play with moving them but shooting from the hip, have you tried removing your external card and see if it will let you move them then? If not, I know that there are apps2sd applications on the market that should help you, but I haven't used any of them to give you a recommendation.
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I've used all of those methods and none work.

Did you find solution? I have same situation here, it's pretty weird internal SD could only be stored with application data instead of application itself.

I'm almost positive that you can't move apps to your "internal SD card" regardless of whether or not you have an external sd card installed.
My understanding is that you can only move apps to the external SD card (at least that's how it's been on any ROM I've ever used)

why... Why! WHY!!! . . . oh >.>
muh316 said:
Why does my Captivate only limit me to having 2GB of space for apps? I'm not using an external SD card and I want to install my apps onto my internal SD card or atleast move them there.
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Why you ask...
Well simple, your limited to only 2GB because this size was choosen by phone manufacturors years ago when they were first designing the phone.
Consider that most of the phones in use back when 2.2 was released did not, for the full storage potential, even have the 2GB that we have just for apps (16GB in total). Heck most did not even have 1GB (I think 512MB was the standard). There was no separation between app storage and other media. This lead to users running out of space for both rather quickly. The solution then was to find use for the external SD as it could be as large as 32GB of storage.
The whole "internal SD" thing was thought up because it seemed wise to separate app storage from media storage. Also back when 2.2 was first released we did not have such massive apps as on the market today, so 2GB was plenty of any and all user (excluding the ppl who felt a need to have 200+ user apps...)
So, you can't store apps to the "internal SD" because that's not what it is meant to be used for. When companies decided to start putting such massive storage into the phone there was no reason for it to be any bigger.
As to only being able to move apps to the external SD, simple; Google did not design Android to do so.
To allow such would require changing how Android sees the "Internal SD" and to change how the app to SD function works, it is not currently written to check for multiple SD cards. I don't see any Dev willing to take up the task when the solution to running out of app space has already been solved by a much better means.
A different way to view the problem would be to ask (or learn, as that's the xda way) about re-sizing the partition to make the app storage larger. If enough people ask (politely!) maybe one of the Devs can be convinced to make it standard in their ROM that it be more then the default 2GB, or someone might make an app or flashable .zip that allows for re-sizing.
lt:dr - phone is old, based on old specs (think pre- 2.1 Android).

Is there any way to force the phone to use External memory?

This is my first phone with a lot of internal memory and I don't quite get how it uses it... Is there any way for the phone to use my external 16GB memory card instead of always using its own 8GB partition?

I second this question.
Though it may seem useless to do so, on the contrary I have a 32g ext SD card and would be fine ignoring the (confusing and my case redundant) internal SD card.
Or if not disable, maybe force apps/etc to default to the ext card?
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The question is does your app allow you the option to use your external memory. Not all apps are created equal and whether they allow you to use the external SD card is really up to the app developer. Its in the coding of the app that determines where the data is stored. Check your apps for that option and if there is none request it from the developer.

I believe there are ways to use the sd-ext for some kinds of data files used by large games, but the app must run on internal mem. I store all docs, downloads, pictures, music, videos, etc. on my external microsd card, but apps have to go on internal or they disappear or don't work. Search for 'apps2sd bionic' and you should find a way to store some game data externally.

raylgo said:
This is my first phone with a lot of internal memory and I don't quite get how it uses it... Is there any way for the phone to use my external 16GB memory card instead of always using its own 8GB partition?
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I did this when I had the atrix, and have also done it on my Bionic.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1404872

Ha! Didn't even think about messing with the fstab, thanks for that link. I'll be trying this shortly, and repost with results.
On a side note, I figured it shouldn't rely on the apps per say, considering a lot of phones don't have an internal "sdcard" (note: sdcard, not to be confused with regular internal app storage).
My opinion, naming the internal sdcard what it is was a seriously stupid idea. Should've followed suit with "app storage", how about "data storage"... just something not involving "card".
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Cool, it worked awesome. Just had to swap files from one to the other to keep data in spots apps expected it to be.
Actually, I went ahead and disable the internal SD, and mounted the extsd in its place. Have been playing with mounting the extsd to both internal and external (resulted in only one mount point working), and also tried renaming the internals mount point to something like "internal_storage" (resulted in boot loop).
Be careful if playing with the mount points. The system doesn't like booting if it can't find something mounted to "sdcard", etc.
Something I'll be playing with and experimenting with. Any more info on editing these mount points would be very handy.
And lastly, sorry for hijacking your thread
Hope I didn't bother.
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I think the "move to sd" option I does not work on lollipop

Before upgrading, i received no low storage warnings. After upgrading I getting the annoying warming again and when i move apps to the sd card, i see no change in available storage space on my phone. For a test i used dungeon hunter 5 which is about 1.4 gb. After using the move to sd option, i saw no change in value and still received low space warnings even with the settings showing over a gb on my sd card from dh5. Uninstalling the app seems to have freed up a lot of space on my device storage and discontinued the warnings. Am i misunderstanding or overlooking something? I think the move to sd function does not work on lollipop.