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Hi all,
My first post and my first contact with nook Color. My unity just arrived from US on the last friday (I'm in Brazil) and since then I'm reading all about the different ROMs available.
When I bought my nook, my intention was to use with it with HoneyComb, but reading on the HC thread I see that it's a work in progress. I see that now the Cyanogenmod supports our nook colors and cyanogenmod is very conceptualized in the Android World.
So my question for you, more experienced users than me, is: Despite the HoneyComb port isn't completed yet is it worth to use it as a daily system, on the internal memory? Or is it more secure to stay on Cyanogenmod? My intention is to use my nook as a small tablet.
(Oh my! I'm in love with HoneyComb!)
Cyanogenmod is the best ROM IMHO. All of the major problems have been fixed, the integrated honeycomb like soft buttons make the Nook very usable.
Grab one of the newest nightly and nook tools, over clock to 1200 and you should be happy.
I tried Honeycomb, but it's not really there yet (and unless/until Google releases source code it may not get there). CyanogenMod 7 works great, however (and improvements keep coming).
Hi painter_ thank your for your repply! I'm a lot lost yet. I'm totally new to noob and android in general...
CM is really your only good option IMO.
CM7 nuff said.
As bigbob23 said, Honeycomb is just not there. I tried it myself and was disappointed. Google has said they will not release the source code so you will not see the kind of support and development that you see with CM7. Stick with that and use one of the more recent nightlies. 132 and above contain the OC kernel should you want to push the CPU a little in the future.
You should use the latest stable cm7, which is 7.1 rc1. Works really nice on the NC.
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_jonte said:
You should use the latest stable cm7, which is 7.1 rc1. Works really nice on the NC.
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I actually recommend the nightlies myself, as development moves rather fast from release points of stables to current.
_jonte said:
You should use the latest stable cm7, which is 7.1 rc1. Works really nice on the NC.
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FYI RC1 is not the "stable" release. It is the first release candidate for the next stable.
MIUI, more iPad like UI, based on CM7.
Hey guys, thank you all for the replies! I upgraded my nook yesterday with the lastest CM7 nightly and it´s great (despite my love for the HoneyComb!).
Speaking in overclock, what value and settings do you recommend? I'm a bit worry about overclock...
1.2 GHz is the best, you get the best results. and more and it screws the graphics.
Thanks again! What about the battery with these clock speed?
Harlley Sathler said:
Thanks again! What about the battery with these clock speed?
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I don't think the increase in clock speeds will drain battery much faster, if any. The CM 7.1 RC1 or the newer nightlys allow the Nook to "sleep", which is what greatly reduces battery drain.
Oh! Thanks again!
I'm currently running CM9 on my HP Touchpad. I was wondering what the difference is between CM9 and Buttery ICS. Are they the same build but different features? Are there things that one has and the other doesn't?
cm9 is based on cyanogen source, buttah is based on evervolve (spelling?).
Go to classicnerd.net, it has the info you're looking for.
buttah is better.....and i am totally biased.... anyways not many devs/members appreciate rom comparison threads...try both yourself and u will find the difference..
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buttah is better.....and i am totally biased.... anyways not many devs/members appreciate rom compassion threads...try both yourself and u will find the difference..
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OK I know your biased but could you provide any reasons at all?
This early in the ICS development game it is less about A vs B and more about who has what working. These are Alpha builds at different stages of development with different focus on moving forward.
I am personally biased toward Classicnerd myself, but that should not impact your decision. Try them both yourself and you can then make an informed decision on the ROM that works good for you.
i went with butter cause... i like butter!
With this recent news about HP releasing files or whatever, does that mean all the teams will get that stuff or only CM?
SubyGuy said:
i went with butter cause... i like butter!
With this recent news about HP releasing files or whatever, does that mean all the teams will get that stuff or only CM?
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the HP files will be outsourced so everyone can see/use them....even u can get those files..also Classicnerd has their work on github as well...so they all are trying to work in a way that it will help whole touchpad dev
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the HP files will be outsourced so everyone can see/use them....even u can get those files..also Classicnerd has their work on github as well...so they all are trying to work in a way that it will help whole touchpad dev
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thats really cool
Thanks guys! I guess I'll have to try it this week sometime. I'll let you all know what I think.
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This early in the ICS development game it is less about A vs B and more about who has what working. These are Alpha builds at different stages of development with different focus on moving forward.
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I will say that I have had both installed and both look great. Unfortunately no one has made any headway on the wifi issues...
I will say that the nerds have really done a nice job with the graphics. It's just really nice to look at. So if you're going for the "cool" effect. That might be a good choice.
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I will say that I have had both installed and both look great. Unfortunately no one has made any headway on the wifi issues...
I will say that the nerds have really done a nice job with the graphics. It's just really nice to look at. So if you're going for the "cool" effect. That might be a good choice.
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What graphics? As far as I am concerned wifi is iffy and HD video don't work on either so they're both essentialtially equal. But they're very very advanced for an alpha and can't wait for the next release.
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Nhialor said:
What graphics? As far as I am concerned wifi is iffy and HD video don't work on either so they're both essentialtially equal. But they're very very advanced for an alpha and can't wait for the next release.
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I was talking specifically about the "eye candy". The wifi has been a train wreck for me thus far. I'm not sure how there are so many that aren't having issues.
The only way I can get the thing to stay connected for any length of time is to run a wide open AP or public wifi spots. WEP, WPA2 and WPA2 Enterprise are worthless.
But I do agree, for an alpha, it is very nice to run. I just wish I could USE the things that I need to make it actually useful for me...
No offense to anyone here. But I have CyanogenMod 9 Alpha 0.6 installed on my TouchPad and I have not had ANY problems with my WiFi staying connected. I used to have CyanogenMod 7 Alpha 3.5 and I had issues with my WiFi then but I have not had one issue with my WiFi staying connected to my internet at all. Every morning and every time I "wake up" my TouchPad my Wifi is on and ready to use. I LOVE CyanogenMod 9 Alpha 0.6 as does my Mom who also has it on her TouchPad!
P.S. Make sure in your WiFi settings you go to the Advanced feature and that you select that your WiFi is set to NEVER sleep.
I may be wrong but I think that the wifi is a hardware issue. I have used both Roms and have never had an issue with wifi. It could be the routers used since there are so many different ones being used or the wifi chip inside the TP. These are the only things that are not constant for everyone.
Just my opinion.
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I may be wrong but I think that the wifi is a hardware issue. I have used both Roms and have never had an issue with wifi. It could be the routers used since there are so many different ones being used or the wifi chip inside the TP. These are the only things that are not constant for everyone.
Just my opinion.
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I can't agree. The wifi works great in WebOS. Nothing but issues in cm9 and 7 and through the variety of kangs and the varying suggestions on how to try to fix it.
What settings are you using on your WAP?
I'm curious...what is everyone's ICS distro of choice for the Nexus One?
i.e. BCM / TexasIce / MIUI
No bashing allowed...only critical conversation please!
I'm using BCM as I like to have the Cyanogenmod features.
+1 for BCM9
BCM is running pretty smooth and with good features.
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BCM
Bravo CM9
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Damn.
That's a lot for BCM.
I'm currently running TexasIce. No problems. Smooth as silk.
What does BCM have over TexasIce? Have they fixed the video camera FC?
CyanogenMod 9 I don't care about the video camera, rarely use(d) it.
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CyanogenMod 9 I don't care about the video camera, rarely use(d) it.
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Gotcha.
So what does BCM have over TexasIce? I'm in no way trying to poke holes in anybody's preferrence. If anything, I'm looking for a reason to flash BCM here. Is BCM basically just TexasIce with the CM9 toolbox? Is one any more "AOSP"-ish than the other?
As I said, BCM has CyanogenMod 9 over TexasICS. I got really used to CM7, and CM9 is no different (some functionality is still missing though). I tried TexasICS a few times, but I feel like BCM fits my needs more than TexasICS. I don't have anything against TexasICS, and I don't think people should see these 2 ROMs as opponents.
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As I said, BCM has CyanogenMod 9 over TexasICS. I got really used to CM7, and CM9 is no different (some functionality is still missing though). I tried TexasICS a few times, but I feel like BCM fits my needs more than TexasICS. I don't have anything against TexasICS, and I don't think people should see these 2 ROMs as opponents.
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I got you bro, but my question is still pretty unanswered.
To begin with, I'll say that I LOVE the CM team and all their work. The CM ROMs are minimalist, yet customizable, ultimately providing an android experience that's unadulterated by even the slightest carrier modifications. Plus it's tailored for the power user.
I know this, but that's not quite what I'm looking for in the answer.
I'm simply wondering, besides being associated with the cyanogenmod team, is BCM more stable/closer to being a complete, bugless AOSP distribution of ICS than TexasIce?
I gather that they have not fixed the video camera FC- something that's not a big deal to me.
For example, this is the list taken directly from the TexasIce thread of things that are NOT working:
Gapps might not work properly (search the thread for fixes before posting issues)
USB: MTP / PTP / Tethering
wifi ad-hoc (might work)
Builtin alarm clock app doesn't work 100% of the time.
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*Anything in blue doesn't really bother me...and the gapps issue is an old wive's tale
I'm curious about whether the stock alarm clock app is buggy in BCM as well, though.
While it's not on the list, an FC when hitting 'record' in the stock video camera app is the only other major issue. Apparently this is due to having to fix something with the stagefright video encoder
What I'm wondering is- Has BCM fixed ANY of these things as of right now? Or are both ROMs on the 'same page'?
The Gapps that I installed with BCM are all working 100%. Never had any FC or freeze. The USB issues I wouldn't know because I never use it for anything other than ADB/Fastboot. Wifi idem dito. Alarm clock is working 100% for me, never missed any early class. I don't believe I've read anything about the alarm clock not working in the BCM thread
Also, I believe BCM doesn't have the Screen of Death which some TexasICS users are experiencing. But it's the same with every ROM: it can work perfectly on one Nexus One, while it sucks on the other.
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The Gapps that I installed with BCM are all working 100%. Never had any FC or freeze. The USB issues I wouldn't know because I never use it for anything other than ADB/Fastboot. Wifi idem dito. Alarm clock is working 100% for me, never missed any early class. I don't believe I've read anything about the alarm clock not working in the BCM thread
Also, I believe BCM doesn't have the Screen of Death which some TexasICS users are experiencing. But it's the same with every ROM: it can work perfectly on one Nexus One, while it sucks on the other.
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Awesome bro that's what I'm looking for.
Ultimately, I've got no real allegiance to one brand or the other. As I said, I love the CM team and what they do. I'm all about results though, and if they're a bit behind TexasIce than I'm not interested.
By the sound of it, though, this isn't the case. I appreciate your input man.
Just flashed TexasIce ICS yesterday, but it looks like I might be flashing BCM today.
Thanks again for the info bro.
Just wait a few hours and somebody else would recommend TexasICS
Please let us know what you think after you've installed BCM!
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Awesome bro that's what I'm looking for.
Ultimately, I've got no real allegiance to one brand or the other. As I said, I love the CM team and what they do. I'm all about results though, and if they're a bit behind TexasIce than I'm not interested.
By the sound of it, though, this isn't the case. I appreciate your input man.
Just flashed TexasIce ICS yesterday, but it looks like I might be flashing BCM today.
Thanks again for the info bro.
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Yeah, likewise, I haven't tried TexasIce, but the known problems listed as being present in TexasIce (aside from video recording), are non-issue in BCM.
One thing I did discover though - if you take TexasIce's latest Kernel (he posted it in a thread) and put that in BCM, BCM becomes just as fast (or faster) than Cyanogen Mod 7! No hindrance on battery life either. I was in shock - a full speed / slick / stable ICS on Nexus One...now if the video recording / camera scanning features were enabled, this would be 100% fully operational.
I have used both.
Both are equally good and stable but I was on Bcm at the end for a while before I switched to sensation xe.
I preferred bcm due to no SoD issues(drewis kernel solved it later on also) , ease of install and configuration also I was having 3-5 random restarts on tesaxice but seldomly had on bcm, once a week if any.
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tackleberry_crash said:
I have used both.
Both are equally good and stable but I was on Bcm at the end for a while before I switched to sensation xe.
I preferred bcm due to no SoD issues(drewis kernel solved it later on also) , ease of install and configuration also I was having 3-5 random restarts on tesaxice but seldomly had on bcm, once a week if any.
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Really quickly, I know BCM is ported from the HTC Desire/Bravo CM9. Now, I know the Desire and the N1 are almost identical, the only differences being the N1's trackball and capacitive buttons (as far as I know).
So, question: Does the N1 port of the Desire's CM9 distribution have all the N1's hardware working correctly? Trackball wake and notifications? Any/everything else?
Ultimately, even though it's a port, is BCM being developed with the N1 in mind?
Thanks for the info fellas.
+1 BCM with Drew Kernel
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Really quickly, I know BCM is ported from the HTC Desire/Bravo CM9. Now, I know the Desire and the N1 are almost identical, the only differences being the N1's trackball and capacitive buttons (as far as I know).
So, question: Does the N1 port of the Desire's CM9 distribution have all the N1's hardware working correctly? Trackball wake and notifications? Any/everything else?
Ultimately, even though it's a port, is BCM being developed with the N1 in mind?
Thanks for the info fellas.
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Yeah it does. Plus if you want to customize anything, you can install Lightflow to do so.
tried them both, but always preferred bcm.
Nobody has tried. Icy 7. Look on drewgaren Web site
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I just got my broken charger replaced so I haven't really been following development. Which ICS rom is best developed and gives the best performance and experience?
As far as I understand it, there is just one at the moment. This one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1370873
What can be confusing is that as it's still alpha, you don't see official Cyanogen nightlies for this development effort yet. However several wonderful individuals have stepped forward to fill this need for the interim.
The other choice is if you wish to have opengl rendering turned on or not.
Soon, I'm sure you'll have four choices as 3.x kernel development is going on as well, so you'll eventually need to choose between the 2.x kernel with or without opengl and 3.x kernel with or without opengl.
What fun! But all of them are excellent.
I've used the builds from here (both opengl and not) and have been quite happy.
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I've used the builds from here (both opengl and not) and have been quite happy.
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Yeah by best rom I really meant opengl vs non opengl. Which one is better?
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Yeah by best rom I really meant opengl vs non opengl. Which one is better?
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Non is more stable with snappier performance. But only plays flash with Opera Mobile.
Krylon360, with open communication from the Nook Devs, has released AOKP for the Nook Color.
It can be found here: http://goo.gl/9Z4BR
It's nice to have some more options, and that's what AOKP is all about.
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Krylon360, with open communication from the Nook Devs, has released AOKP for the Nook Color.
It can be found here: http://goo.gl/9Z4BR
It's nice to have some more options, and that's what AOKP is all about.
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Thanks! I'm gonna try this one.
thanks for posting that link 12paq, I have been waiting for AOKP for the nook. I've been running it for the last few hours and its running pretty nice. a few glitches here and there but nothing major, and I haven't noticed any major difference performance wise compared to cm9. big thanks to Krylon360.
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thanks for posting that link 12paq, I have been waiting for AOKP for the nook. I've been running it for the last few hours and its running pretty nice. a few glitches here and there but nothing major, and I haven't noticed any major difference performance wise compared to cm9. big thanks to Krylon360.
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It's a bit buggy, but so is CM9, but maybe just a bit less. I did get Hulu to play a "House" episode, Netflix is a no go. When and if the new kernel comes out then we will likely see some performance increases to CM9 based builds.
To be on topic, I'd reluctantly recommend CM7 for the best overall Nook build, even though CM9 is very functional and fun. The Nook is not my only tablet and I use it for light reading and hardcore experimenting (I am head test monkey for my dev friends of higher aptitude, lol) I always want to be on the cutting edge, however performance and options can suffer. This tablet has been a blast as well as a fantastic learning tool for me, but as a daily runner, not so much anymore.
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To be on topic, I'd reluctantly recommend CM7 for the best overall Nook build, even though CM9 is very functional and fun.
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I second that! Cm7 is by far the most stable ROM on the nook color. Also, I have gotten used to having my "back" button on the bottom right corner that I'm not running CM9 until they can change that.
Do you use the same cm9 rom for bootable sd card as you would to flash?
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As a general rule yes... the "recovery mode" script on Verygreen's sd install will modify the way the installer script works to install correctly...
there is an exception:
Racks' tripple boot sd has to have the files modified prior to placing on SD... so it knows which to install as primary and alternate.
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I second that! Cm7 is by far the most stable ROM on the nook color. Also, I have gotten used to having my "back" button on the bottom right corner that I'm not running CM9 until they can change that.
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For me, since I dont spend so much time on games anymore, I made CM9 as my daily system. For sure it lags a bit at speed, in comparison to CM7, but other than that is perfectly fine.
i tried the AOKP version listed earlier and i agree its nicer and smoother than the CM9 thats going right now but i have noticed with both its less responsive than my CM7..
anyone else having this issue or is it just because its a working progress?
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i tried the AOKP version listed earlier and i agree its nicer and smoother than the CM9 thats going right now but i have noticed with both its less responsive than my CM7..
anyone else having this issue or is it just because its a working progress?
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snag build 40 from goo app off the store flash that...
krylon360 did some amazing work on it its fast ...
I have tried all the CM7 from the SD Card and now from the eMMC and although I love how they run, I'm very please and happy how my Nook is running with Samiam CM9 build from eMMC. I have tried eyeballer and krylon360 builds yet for some reason they both make my Nook freeze at times while with the Samiam build I don't have that problem. I have change the launcher to ADW Ex since the Trebuchet launcher do uses more RAM than ADW. I play many games, browse the internet and just about everything. I know that there's some features that are still not working but they are not so essentials for me anyway. I don't use Netflix, the Youtube HD work sometimes and sometimes it doesn't (can't explain how or why since there are reports that HD doesn't work on CM9 yet) but I can deal with that. Again, overall I'm sticking with CM9, hoping that sooner or later the will come with an official build. Thanks for all the hard work that everyone here does.
I have found krylon360's AOKP port for the Nook Color to be more responsive and smoother than the CM9 nightly builds. Being used to using AOKP on the Galaxy Nexus, it's nice to see those power features available on the Nook as well.
Definitely looking forward to krylon360's next AOKP release! :good:
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I have found krylon360's AOKP port for the Nook Color to be more responsive and smoother than the CM9 nightly builds. Being used to using AOKP on the Galaxy Nexus, it's nice to see those power features available on the Nook as well.
Definitely looking forward to krylon360's next AOKP release! :good:
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I second/third Krylon's AOKP. I' ve neen tinkering with all the ROM's and this is the best I've experienced so far
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I second/third Krylon's AOKP. I' ve neen tinkering with all the ROM's and this is the best I've experienced so far
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I'll give this a try tonight.
I've been happily running CM 7.1 for a long time, waiting for the ICS release. Got tired of waiting and installed a CM9 nightly a couple days ago. It was sluggish and many freezes resulted; not ready for prime time yet.
I just picked up an original Galaxy Tab 7.0, US Cellular variant for $40 for my kid to use. SCH-I800 is the model. I haven't wipe or done anything with it yet. At a quick glance it has Gingerbread installed and I know that is the last official OS from Samsung. I know this is subjective and opinion, but what is the best ROM I can load on this tablet from ICS forward. Looking for the one that is most functional as it is for my kid so I want to minimize the "Daddy this isn't working." or similar issues. Is there a reliable and smooth ICS or JB build from CM or other that you can recommend? Thanks in advance for your opinion.
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I just picked up an original Galaxy Tab 7.0, US Cellular variant for $40 for my kid to use. SCH-I800 is the model. I haven't wipe or done anything with it yet. At a quick glance it has Gingerbread installed and I know that is the last official OS from Samsung. I know this is subjective and opinion, but what is the best ROM I can load on this tablet from ICS forward. Looking for the one that is most functional as it is for my kid so I want to minimize the "Daddy this isn't working." or similar issues. Is there a reliable and smooth ICS or JB build from CM or other that you can recommend? Thanks in advance for your opinion.
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Your first worry is to get your Device rooted. I'd suggest you try Super One-Click (http://www.superoneclickdownload.com/). Hopefully that should get you started. As to which ROM... I'd recommend you to download an App called GooManager (Check the Google Play Store!). This should give you a list of compatible ROMs for you to try out.
IMHO. I'd tell you to skip ICS (i.e. CM9), as ICS has the Navigation Bar on it, that can neither be deactivated, or hidden. If ya don't quite get what I'm getting at. This Navigation Bar mirrors all the Buttons on the Screen that are already on the Device itself. (i.e. there's no point in having it On-Screen). So I would from this stand point recommend you to jump to Jelly Bean. (i.e. CM10(.1 / .2)) which should get ya JB 4.1.2 ~ 4.3.x. The problem with the newer versions some CM10.1 and definitely with CM10.2. are broken Front Camera (i.e. It takes Black Pictures with 0kb), and or broken Bluetooh Radio. Thankfully most of the CM10.1 - based ROMs don't have these Bugs though.
But, again you should try a few ROMs though the GooManager first...
Thanks for the feedback. Very familiar with Google Manager from my HP Touchpad and Nook Color. I guess I'll start with CM 10.1. Looking for a solid build with the least bugs & issues; newest features are secondary.
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Afterthought... If I use Nova Launcher with CM9 wouldn't I be able to hide the persistent bar? Just a thought and if not I'll start with JB.
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Afterthought... If I use Nova Launcher with CM9 wouldn't I be able to hide the persistent bar? Just a thought and if not I'll start with JB.
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I use Nova Launcher on JB to give me greater control over how I re-size my Widgets on my Homescreen. I'm not aware of any function I've ever come across, that'll let you turn off or hide the Navigation Bar. AFAIK you can't do it on ICS 'cause its a System Requirement, and turning it off may either break the entire OS. Or at least make it unstable. The few "Hacks" I've seen Posted on how to disable the Navigation Bar on ICS have never worked on my GT-P1000 (GSM Model).
Like I said though, Paranoid Android v2.53, akop-sgt7, HumberOS and cdesai (Sapir) ROMs based on CM10(.1) have all worked well enough for me. But, your Millage may vary. I would HIGHLY recommend you to have copies of Heimdall, Heimdalls' One Click Recovery, Oden v1.70 as well as the Samsung Kies Software installed before you start. It would also be advisable to track down the GB.Stock_Safe_v5.zip file. http://d-h.st/oDP (i.e. The Overcome Gingerbread (2.3.3) Recovery Files*). As you WILL NEED THOSE as well. You need to make sure you flash the correct Modem.bin File for your CDMA Device though, or else you'll end up with a Softbrick. Phone - /!\ - PC Screen. At which point you'll then need to use the One Click-Recovery, to fix it again.
Thanks again for the great advice. You've given me a good start so now all I need to do is find some time to get started. I realized after buying the tablet the charger they gave me does not have a detachable USB cable so I ordered one so I can get started. Thanks again! CM 10.X here I come...
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