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Apps automatically starting up, by themselves

Hello all,
I recently bought my N1 about 4 days ago. So far its been great. Easily one of the best phones I've ever owned. However, I am having this problem where apps in android seem to startup by themselves. I'm using Advanced Task killer to kill em but ill kill them and then like a minute later they're back up and running without me starting them. Its quite annoying as my battery is taking a beating from it having to close and open apps and repeat. The biggest offenders of this are the voice apps such as voice search, voice dialer, Google voice (which isn't even setup), and the amazon mp3 store. A few third party apps I downloaded tend to do this as well.
Have any of you guys experienced this? Is there any way to fix it? Thanks in advance! XD
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decoyjoe said:
Hello all,
I recently bought my N1 about 4 days ago. So far its been great. Easily one of the best phones I've ever owned. However, I am having this problem where apps in android seem to startup by themselves. I'm using Advanced Task killer to kill em but ill kill them and then like a minute later they're back up and running without me starting them. Its quite annoying as my battery is taking a beating from it having to close and open apps and repeat. The biggest offenders of this are the voice apps such as voice search, voice dialer, Google voice (which isn't even setup), and the amazon mp3 store. A few third party apps I downloaded tend to do this as well.
Have any of you guys experienced this? Is there any way to fix it? Thanks in advance! XD
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Do not worry about app running in the background, what you are probably seeing is the list of what was run, Android is verry good at managing memory, in fact I do not even use a task manager and I am fine with it.

Well that's the thing. Some of these apps that startup I have never run such as the mp3 store. So I close it and I get an additional 10megs of memory. But then it just starts back up. So I don't know how to stop it all together.
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There are apps that automatically run in the background but don't effect performance like Google voice voice dialer etc..what I did was add them to the ignore list. Trust me those apps are always running no matter how many times you close them
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Like has already been said, stop worrying about it. Those apps are NOT stealing memory, they're NOT using battery.

Free memory does not benefit you. Android will automatically load apps in to memory so that they are available to switch to fast as possible.
You should not kill apps unless they are bisbehaving. Killing off apps forces Android to load them back into memory if its algorithm thinks you are likely to use it. The act of loading data into memory uses power and Android tries hard to avoid it.
I was obsessed with managing my memory and running apps when I bought my nexus one. Everyone at that time suggested task killers so I got one of those. I had crappy performance with random sluggishness. I figured I just needed to kill off more apps. Eventually I read an article from an Android dev explaining this stuff and I backed off and have had a much better experience since.
I wish Google was more vocal on this subject. Everyone thinking auto task killing is a necessity on Android really gives it a black eye.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=712352
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2) App that loses focus goes to background. That's the way OS is built. If you want apps to be killed on losing focus, get iOS 3 to run on your device.
3) The market has task killers because they can be written for multitasking OS, and because they help dealing with bad apps. Not for any other reason.
4) The OS loads some of your most used tasks when it runs, even if you don't know about it. Just loads in the memory, and allocates no CPU time. If you leave your phone unattended, your free memory goes down by itself. Why? Because free memory is wasted memory. You can check the "EMPTY" processes in Astro, for example.
5) The best task killer is careful selection of your apps. You see hangups? Find out the app that's doing it and remove it, or kill it specifically after running if it's necessary.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=678205
Remove your task killer (or, if you insist, just clear the auto-kill list), erase all you think you know about memory management - because you don't know - and stop worrying.

How to lock apps in memory

I understand android has its own way to manage apps. If they aren't being used, android will automatically close them.
Sometimes, though, android (at least mine) is stupid. For example, if I don't have the music app open, it will close and stop playing.
I'd like to explicitly force apps like IM apps or google voice or my music app to never close. Is there a way to do this?
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nice question...

I don't mean to spam, but I will bump this until someone answers, 'cuz I've got the same question.

Well you have to increase the priority of the apps you don't want to close. An easy way to that is by using the "Auto Memory Manager" application.

I've used EX launcher once and it has that feature of locking the apps you want in memory and the task manager will not be able to close them most of the time.

renice pidof $process_name

try using the auto memory manager app in the market

quite important question indeed.
i managed to get lower OOM associated to particular applications, such as GO SMS and ADW launcher, which are 2 fundamental apps for me.
fortunatelly i did not have any problems with music player and training session recording apps. using Laszlos' ROM, ADW lancher and GO SMS had a great combination of quite stable system.
so i guess you have to find the best components
to tell the thruth i do hate application handling of android

Kill apps from ram for good

I have a few apps running in the background all the time. Facebook and blood and glory mainly. Is there a way to delete them for good? On Facebook I set it that no notifications and never refresh, and its still using up 12mb. Same with blood and glory. Any way to kill them for good? Is there an app maybe? Thanks.

Well, mainly in android apps have 4 components.
Two of those are Activities and Services.
The activities have UI, you can activate and use it. The services doesn't have UI since they are hidden. You can't Activate them manually and their purpse is to open the app fast. Deleting the app is the best way you can use a task manager to close them.
Advanced Task Killer, for example, has the ability to set timer for RAM clearing, you can set it to whenever you lock your screen.
if i helped you, hit the thanks button

Another way for ram.
I think of the amount of memory (ram) have effected to play game or run any application smoothly.
So If you use kernel Semaphore 2.7.4(GB) or 1.2.0 (ICS) there are choices for big memory to run application smoothly.

I want to kill an app like Facebook, and then I don't want it to run in the background after I close the app. When I kill the process , after aboit 10 seconds it goes on again!

Anyone!?

Anyone 2x?

use advanced task manager.or delete the facebook app and install fbm.it does not run in the background

I've found an useful article about Task killer apps:
Being a new member, I cannot post outside link.
Search for: Task killer apps What they do, and why you shouldn't use them ->

Autostarts
There is an app on android market called Autostarts, it's an amazing app i've used it for over a year now and never had any problems. what it does it stops apps like facebook from starting up automaticly and keeps the app fully closed until you choose to launch it. Same goes for any other app which you choose to disable from auto-starting by itself. This is why Autostarts is so much better than say a normal task killer because apps closed by task killers restart themselves a few minutes later so your just running round in circles trying to keep the app closed probably eating up more battery trying to close it every 5 minutes than if you just left the app alone, where as with autostarts you dissable the app once then thats it it wont start until you tell it to, perfect!

Autostart sounds quite good
I'd also recommend using titanium backup to freeze the app, unfreeze when you want it and then freeze when you dont.
Autostart probably sounds like the easier option, no need to keep freezing and unfreezing, but knowing about titanium backup and freezing apps doesn't hurt

[Q] Inspite of killing the Apps why popup

Inspite of killing all applications by task manager or task killer programs and keeping the phone idle for say 1 minute ie without using it, when open the task killer, again some applications are there. what I would like to know is after killing the applications unless I start an application, applications stay killed. I tried periodic killing also.

Most of the apps are "listening" for specific system events, which cause them to perform some actions, killing such apps (e.g. using task killers) to save battery is counterproductive, cause in the end your device will consume more battery due to constant killing-restarting cycle.
To manage the problem you could use one of the two apps (maybe there's more, don't know), Autorun Manager or Autostarts, both available in market. Using either of those two you can disable the events causing apps to restart, usually without damaging their functionality - for example, if you want to use fb only when you need it, you can disable all triggers, and the app we'll run only when started by you, and will not restart when killed.

According to android its how memory management works.
It always loads it in memory. Its just there and works differently then windows where it eats your resources
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I use auto starts and it really helped me in naughty apps that insist on running after boot. Culprits are usually games and such.
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Device Maintenance- some questions

Once I read on XDA that "free ram is wasted ram" (or something like that).
every time we closing apps we clear the ram, and every time we re-opened apps the phone use more CPU and battery. So should we add all apps to "Unmonitored apps"? Should we not adding any app to "Always sleepping apps"? Shouls we never "Clear now" to clear the ram?
Hopping someone could explain it.
Thanks.

soilentgreen said:
Once I read on XDA that "free ram is wasted ram" (or something like that).
every time we closing apps we clear the ram, and every time we re-opened apps the phone use more CPU and battery. So should we add all apps to "Unmonitored apps"? Should we not adding any app to "Always sleepping apps"? Shouls we never "Clear now" to clear the ram?
Hopping someone could explain it.
Thanks.
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Making an app sleep is not the same thing as keeping/clearing it from ram. You are right though that free ram doesn't generally do you a lot of good, and constantly clearing it will just make your phone work more the next time you load that particular app.

A 'Sleeping App' is useful for conserving battery. Apps like Email or Facebook are always awake and connected to the internet checking for new messages, notifications, comments, etc. and this consumes more battery. The downside to putting an app to sleep however, is that it won't show notifications and alert you of new messages, comments, likes, etc. until you manually open the app itself and all notifications will come flooding in at once.
An App kept in RAM simply allows it to be opened and resumed from the last point it was used. This saves a little CPU and Battery but not much difference in our modern and high powered devices.
If you have maximum amount of Apps in RAM, than the phone automatically closes the oldest opened app to make room for the new one. So this option is simply a personal preference without much impact on CPU and Battery.

sefrcoko said:
Making an app sleep is not the same thing as keeping/clearing it from ram. You are right though that free ram doesn't generally do you a lot of good, and constantly clearing it will just make your phone work more the next time you load that particular app.
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Does Device maintenance app close automatic the apps that added to "Always slepping apps" after a while?
If so, the apps need re-open every time. If it dosn't the app need to be close so it "enter" to sleeping mode. In both cases the app will close and it'll need to re-open.
If android knows to manage the apps, why in the first plase need to add apps to sleep?
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soilentgreen said:
Does Device maintenance app close automatic the apps that added to "Always slepping apps" after a while?
If so, the apps need re-open every time. If it dosn't the app need to be close so it "enter" to sleeping mode. In both cases the app will close and it'll need to re-open.
If android knows to manage the apps, why in the first plase need to add apps to sleep?
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Yes, but sleep also involves restricting background processes which could otherwise be running and draining battery. That's a different consideration compared to whether an app is stored in ram or not, which is why I said they are not quite the same thing.

Well I close apps cause some apps draw a lot more power then others. I installed a audio recorder on my pixel o wanted to record audio at a concert. It drained the battery on my phone which had a full charge before I had a chance to use it so less apps the better. I guess it's all the matter what app are runnonf

Thank you all for the answers
What about greenify? What the difference between hibernation mode and sleep mode?
If app greenify it should add to "Unmonitored apps" in Device maintenance?
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