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HTC Raider recognized by ATT?

Just wondering if the HTC raider (international version of vivid) will be recognized by ATT's imei database. I'm trying to keep my unlimited medianet plan

No it won't. Using two of them on medianet plans

i would say they probably can, especially if you use more data than say a MEdia Net user would use, that would raise some flags.

newter55 said:
No it won't. Using two of them on medianet plans
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Excellent exactly the answer I needed! BTW can you access LTE with it or are you only on 3G/3.5G?

n4v1n said:
Excellent exactly the answer I needed! BTW can you access LTE with it or are you only on 3G/3.5G?
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For LTE you would need an LTE capable sim card. For 4g youd need a capable 4g sim card, for 3g you'd need a 3g capable sim card. Sim cards are backwards capable but not forwards.
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travisxcore said:
For LTE you would need an LTE capable sim card. For 4g youd need a capable 4g sim card, for 3g you'd need a 3g capable sim card. Sim cards are backwards capable but not forwards.
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That was not my question. WHat I was asking was can he get LTE using the medianet plan.

n4v1n said:
That was not my question. WHat I was asking was can he get LTE using the medianet plan.
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No, its not an LTE capable APN. LTE has a totally seperate RAN and Core network from the 2G/3G RAN and Core Network.
PTA is LTE APN you should be using.
using the MEdia Net plan with the Vivid is like driving a Ferarri with a Yugo engine.
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travisxcore said:
For LTE you would need an LTE capable sim card. For 4g youd need a capable 4g sim card, for 3g you'd need a 3g capable sim card. Sim cards are backwards capable but not forwards.
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incorrect, you need 4 things:
1. LTE SIM Card
2. LTE Data Plan
3. LTE device
4. LTE network
even if you dont live in an LTE market, you still need 1-3. otherwise you end up changing APN's and not getting a good experience.

Its not a question of if youd gave a good time doing it. I mean if the dude wants to use a medianet plan on a lte phone obviously he dgaf bout having a good time using this thing.
It is possible as asked. No you can't get LTE but yes you can get data.
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travisxcore said:
Its not a question of if youd gave a good time doing it. I mean if the dude wants to use a medianet plan on a lte phone obviously he dgaf bout having a good time using this thing.
It is possible as asked. No you can't get LTE but yes you can get data.
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yes, he can get data, however, eventually he will get caught.

This is incorrect:
travisxcore said:
For LTE you would need an LTE capable sim card. For 4g youd need a capable 4g sim card, for 3g you'd need a 3g capable sim card. Sim cards are backwards capable but not forwards.
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For LTE you need a LTE SIM
For "4G"(HSPA/HSPA+) you need a 3G SIM... because it's really 3G.
For "4G (UMTS that the vivid calls 4G) you need a 3G SIM
My co-worker bought a Vivid and they did not replace his SIM... his phone worked fine as far as he knew until I asked if he was digging the LTE they had turned on a day earlier... He had no LTE, but was cruising along at HSPA+ speeds just fine... went to the AT&T store, got the right SIM and PRESTO! LTE.
Same SIM he had had since his 3G Blackberry Curve... no way was it a "4G SIM"

ClippinWings said:
This is incorrect:
For LTE you need a LTE SIM
For "4G"(HSPA/HSPA+) you need a 3G SIM... because it's really 3G.
For "4G (UMTS that the vivid calls 4G) you need a 3G SIM
My co-worker bought a Vivid and they did not replace his SIM... his phone worked fine as far as he knew until I asked if he was digging the LTE they had turned on a day earlier... He had no LTE, but was cruising along at HSPA+ speeds just fine... went to the AT&T store, got the right SIM and PRESTO! LTE.
Same SIM he had had since his 3G Blackberry Curve... no way was it a "4G SIM"
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AT&T has had 6 revisions of SIM card, as long as you have a SIM card with the digits 25 in 9th/10th place, you have an LTE SIM card, and what i was talking was requirements for LTE, separate RAN and Core network. those 4 things drive the ability for you to be provisioned in the HSS (LTE equivalent of the HLR in the 3g network) you just proved my point above, "got the right SIM and PRESTO! LTE." SIM, IMEI, rate plan drive whether or not you get provisioned in the HSS.
i could go into more detail, however, I'm feeling lazy and tired at the moment.
i am betting they can see what device he has, even if international, AT&T probably has a range of IMEI for the HTC holiday and i am betting it is within that range,

When I got my Atrix 4G they gave me a 4G sim card. 4G is different from 3G(+) It uses the same protocol yes but they upgraded the way the data is handled. As we all know 3G(+) was limited to 7.5mpbs. When I had the Atrix I was getting ~13mbps. There is a difference, and I've seen and researched it. Don't think I would put something in the General Knowledge Thread if I knew nothing about it

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When I got my Atrix 4G they gave me a 4G sim card. 4G is different from 3G(+) It uses the same protocol yes but they upgraded the way the data is handled (mainly its a modem upgrade). As we all know 3G(+) was limited to 7.5mpbs. When I had the Atrix I was getting ~13mbps. There is a difference, and I've seen and researched it. Don't think I would put something in the General Knowledge Thread if I knew nothing about it
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the Atrix is a 14.4mbps device. APN you probably were using was Phone, its not as limited like wap.cingular is.
HSDPA devices were 7.2, HSPA+ devices are usually 14.4 or higher
Original "4G" devices:
Inspire: 14.4mbps
Infuse: 21.mps
Atrix: 14.4mbps
Thrill:14.4mbps
does the SIM card have the digits 25 in the 9th and 10th place? they have had 4G sim's out for a while.

You have to have 4G sim to access the APN is what I'm getting at. Just like you have to have an LTE sim to acess the LTE APN. I'm just dumbing it down so someone won't expect changing their APN to work. Now I have an LTE sim, I exchanged phones quite a few times before I stuck with this one.
As for actually data speeds I've gotten -
3G is ~1 (tested on iPhone4, bud hasn't changed his simcard in years)
3G+ is ~5 (tested on LG Quantum)
4G is ~13 (tested on Atrix 2)
4G LTE is ~ 26 (tested on HTC Vivid)

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You have to have 4G sim to access the APN is what I'm getting at. Just like you have to have an LTE sim to acess the LTE APN. I'm just dumbing it down so someone won't expect changing their APN to work. Now I have an LTE sim, I exchanged phones quite a few times before I stuck with this one.
As for actually data speeds I've gotten -
3G is ~1 (tested on iPhone4, bud hasn't changed his simcard in years)
3G+ is ~5 (tested on LG Quantum)
4G is ~13
4G LTE is ~ 26
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yes, that sounds about right, i dunno where you are man, I've only seen 10mbps down and that was at 2:30 AM. LTE i have averaged that in NYC.

Around the Charlotte, NC area. It really depends on where I am. Some towers give me ~23. Others ~28. I got ~5mps in Concord, NC. Its horrible how much it varies in just a couple of miles.

travisxcore said:
Around the Charlotte, NC area. It really depends on where I am. Some towers give me ~23. Others ~28. I got ~5mps in Concord, NC. Its horrible how much it varies in just a couple of miles.
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interesting...

Yup. I like having AT&T here. We got the backhaul (4G) a month after the Inspire's release. A good 70% of 3G areas don't even have the backhaul implemented yet (hence the reason people stating they switched cards and got no speed difference). This one guy had an inspire was only getting E around here. He got his sim card switched and out of nowhere he got 4G. Its kinda funny how the coverage doesn't overlap like one would imagine.

travisxcore said:
Yup. I like having AT&T here. We got the backhaul (4G) a month after the Inspire's release. A good 70% of 3G areas don't even have the backhaul implemented yet (hence the reason people stating they switched cards and got no speed difference). This one guy had an inspire was only getting E around here. He got his sim card switched and out of nowhere he got 4G. Its kinda funny how the coverage doesn't overlap like one would imagine.
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Hmmm, very interesting, I wouldn't like Charlotte as its a mostly 1900mhz market. Poor building penetration.

I've heard people say that, and honestly I've had no issue what so ever with it. I have never dropped signal inside a building. I do get poor signal in parking garages, and old buildings though, but thats kind of expected. Haha.

About buying sim card in USA

Hi. I am living in New York.
I am supposed to buy a sim card to make my Gnote available.
I want to choose straight talk sim card, but i can't proceed because i don't know for various options.
this is the link what I am struggling for.
if anyone know about it, please help me.
Thank you.

I would suggest option 2 if you have the international version of the note..
General 2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
4G Network LTE 700 (region specific)

ysuk9127 said:
Hi. I am living in New York.
I am supposed to buy a sim card to make my Gnote available.
I want to choose straight talk sim card, but i can't proceed because i don't know for various options.
this is the link what I am struggling for.
if anyone know about it, please help me.
Thank you.
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Hi there,
do you have an unlock Gnote? On that link you got there, you need to choose the 'Unlocked GSM phone' (that is if your using the international GNote).
Basically you got 2 options I can think of on which simcards/carrier your going to opt to use.
1. AT&T
2. T-Mobile
Personally, I'd choose T-mobile's compatible prepaid simcard. Last time I heard from my cuz whose using T-MO, he got a $45 per month unlimited everything and no contract deal. Unlimited means you get unlimited voice minutes,text and HSPA+ data ($45 /month). Data cap is limited to 2GB monthly usage or about 100MB a day.
Only thing you need to contend with if your going to the route of T-mo is that they got intermittent drpped calls (depends on where you at though in NY)

If you have the international Note, you will not be able to use t-mo's 3g band. Voice, sms and 2g/edge will work fine though.
The international Note is fully compatible with the at&t network.
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[Q] What's a good pre-paid plan to use with the One?

NYC area.
I need about 300 minutes a month and 2GB of data. LTE would be nice, but I'll settle for HSPA+42.
Don't care for text messaging (GVoice) but everyone's including unlimited these days.

if its a t-mobile htc one you can use straight talk and get 4g but no lte or you can use t-mobile to get lte

skinsfanbdh said:
if its a t-mobile htc one you can use straight talk and get 4g but no lte or you can use t-mobile to get lte
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planning to get the "developer edition" so that would mean unlocked and able to work with all gsm carriers right?
i'm in nyc so the area has been refarmed for 1900 MHz.

blahblahyoutoo said:
planning to get the "developer edition" so that would mean unlocked and able to work with all gsm carriers right?
i'm in nyc so the area has been refarmed for 1900 MHz.
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Yes it'll work with both AT&T or T-Mobile or any of their MVNOS but when you're outside of a refarmed area, you're more than likely only going to have Edge speeds. I'm on the $30 T-Mobile 100min unlimited text, and 5gb data but I'm actually thinking of switching to something like net10 (AT&T) or something of the sort.

net10 is good but after 1.5 gigs of data they shut it off and that's the only reason why I went to att
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Data-only SIM cards?

Now that we can SIM-unlock our Sprint HTC Ones, I've been curious about buying a prepaid a T-Mobile SIM to use when I can't get LTE or decent 3G. My friends on T-Mobile get great HSPA speeds (even when it's just HSPA 14.4) around Chicago, usually in places where my data sucks.
Ideally, I would like to pop a T-Mobile SIM card in my phone, but still receive calls and texts on my Sprint number without setting up some kind of forwarding service. Unfortunately, I suspect that SIM cards don't work in this fashion, though I am hopeful because the removal of the SIM on the Sprint HTC One simply cuts off support for LTE (probably because the only purpose of the SIM card in the Sprint HTC One is to authenticate LTE, but I'm not totally certain).
Alternatively, could I jump between my Sprint service and T-Mobile service if I installed a T-Mobile SIM by using the *#*#4636#*#* menu? Say I chose "EvDo Only," would I connect to Sprint 3g and get calls and texts on my Sprint number and simply select "WCDMA Preferred" when I want to use T-Mobile's HSPA network?
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On paper you should be able to connect to HSPA 14.4 on 1900MHz or 2G on 1900MHz. In actuality I don't know but there have been several other threads discussing similar topics. Here's one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2386408

When I tested my T-Mobile sim, once I went into mobile networks and selected it, my phone number and my sms was thru the T-Mobile. So I don't think it will work as data only by default at least not saying that it is not possible, just sharing what I experienced.
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uh60james said:
On paper you should be able to connect to HSPA 14.4 on 1900MHz or 2G on 1900MHz. In actuality I don't know but there have been several other threads discussing similar topics. Here's one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2386408
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Oh, this I know, thanks though. Actually, I was telling someone else just that earlier today:
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The Sprint HTC One ONLY supports LTE on band 25. There are currently no carriers in the world other than Sprint that supports LTE on this band.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks
EDIT: Oh, and the Sprint HTC One supports HSDPA on the 1900/2100 MHz UMTS bands up to 14.4Mbps, which is is slower than a lot of HSPA/HSDPA speeds available now (21.1Mbps and 42.2Mbps), though still more than fast enough for browsing or even streaming.
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My questions more revolve around data-only options.
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When I tested my T-Mobile sim, once I went into mobile networks and selected it, my phone number and my sms was thru the T-Mobile. So I don't think it will work as data only by default at least not saying that it is not possible, just sharing what I experienced.
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So you can leave a T-Mobile card in there and just switch between Sprint 3G/voice as well as T-Mo 3G/voice at will? That could be useful; for example, my favorite bar is a total dead zone for Sprint data, but T-Mobile flies. When I know I'm going there, I could pop a T-Mobile SIM, switch to that to check websites and whatnot, but switch it back to periodically check my text messages, right?

That I am not sure. I only tested with a friend's sim card from his nexus 4. With the Sprint sim card removed I was still on sprint cdma but once I went into the available GSM networks and chose T-Mobile, it registered and I was no longer on Sprint at all and it shows GSM icon up where my signal is at. Made a phone call and phone call came thru under my friend's phone number instead of my Sprint number. I'm not sure about sms I did not really played around with it long enough as I was just testing if the unlock really worked.

yes it work
im0rtalz said:
When I tested my T-Mobile sim, once I went into mobile networks and selected it, my phone number and my sms was thru the T-Mobile. So I don't think it will work as data only by default at least not saying that it is not possible, just sharing what I experienced.
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im using it on t-mobile and i get 5 meg down but it keeps disconnecting ughhhh we need a gsm rom for the sprint htc one

im0rtalz said:
That I am not sure. I only tested with a friend's sim card from his nexus 4. With the Sprint sim card removed I was still on sprint cdma but once I went into the available GSM networks and chose T-Mobile, it registered and I was no longer on Sprint at all and it shows GSM icon up where my signal is at. Made a phone call and phone call came thru under my friend's phone number instead of my Sprint number. I'm not sure about sms I did not really played around with it long enough as I was just testing if the unlock really worked.
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Hmm... I might just stroll over to a T-Mobile store today, activate/pick up a SIM for $10, and spend another $3 for the daily pay-as-you-go plan. 200MB for $3 isn't bad if you need it in a pinch...
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im using it on t-mobile and i get 5 meg down but it keeps disconnecting ughhhh we need a gsm rom for the sprint htc one
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I've heard of these issues, does it happen if you stay in the same spot? Have you tried different modes in the *#*#4636#*#* menu other than "WCDMA Preferred"?
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Just an update: I went to a T-Mobile store over lunch to buy a SIM. I was prepared to drop the $10 for the SIM and $3 for the day pass, but it turns out I would need to buy a $10 minimum plan first. >:-\
I'd rather not spend $25 after tax just to see if it works. I'll ask my friend on Sunday if I can try hers. Hopefully I'll be in an area that's covered in 1900/2100MHz.
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Where did hi did the guide to sim unlock with domestic carriers?
I was under the assumption only foreign SIM cards worked.
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JSZESZE said:
Where did hi did the guide to sim unlock with domestic carriers?
I was under the assumption only foreign SIM cards worked.
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Once ur SIM unlocked it will work with any SIM card ur just limited on the antennas the phone has. Our phone supports voice 3g and minimal 4g on domestic carriers. The 4g has to be on 1900/2100 mhz in order for this phone to pick it up
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luigi311 said:
Once ur SIM unlocked it will work with any SIM card ur just limited on the antennas the phone has. Our phone supports voice 3g and minimal 4g on domestic carriers. The 4g has to be on 1900/2100 mhz in order for this phone to pick it up
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Ehh... Not really "4G" since the Sprint HTC One only supports LTE on 1900MHz band 25. T-Mobile uses 1900/2100MHz for HSPA, and the Sprint One only supports 14.4Mbps on those HSPA frequencies (much slower than T-Mobile's phones support).
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Doesn't tmobile have that labeled as 4g though that's y I said it. It's their "4g"
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I just tried with a data only sim from a 3g iPad and it never picked up signal. It showed me a list of networks but never any bars.
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Doesn't tmobile have that labeled as 4g though that's y I said it. It's their "4g"
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I see what you're saying, and I think that you're right, but their HSPA network (which they suddenly started calling "4G" strictly for marketing reasons) is significantly slower than most LTE networks. Only phones that would run on HSPA 42.2Mbps would give Sprint phones a run for their money. HSPA was never classified as even being a pre-4G network by the ITU. I think that only WiMAX and LTE hold that distinction. Anything that's HSPA but marketed as "4G" is a lie.
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If you're in a Sprint 3g only area then t-mobile if on 1900 hspa is still faster. If you integrated your sprint number with Google voice the you can still get your sprint text messages from the Google voice app and use an app like talkatone or groove ip for voice over ip
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I see what you're saying, and I think that you're right, but their HSPA network (which they suddenly started calling "4G" strictly for marketing reasons) is significantly slower than most LTE networks. Only phones that would run on HSPA 42.2Mbps would give Sprint phones a run for their money. HSPA was never classified as even being a pre-4G network by the ITU. I think that only WiMAX and LTE hold that distinction. Anything that's HSPA but marketed as "4G" is a lie.
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So I am not intending to get into a large debate about the HSPA ver of 4G vs the LTE networks other than to say that the top four carriers are not really using LTE to its truest potential because they're limiting backhaul connectivity to keep costs down. So that LTE network you're connected to doesn't have the fastest ethernet connection it should so in many cases it is "possible" for 42MB HSPA network to actually be faster in its actual deployment.
MG

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Hmm... I might just stroll over to a T-Mobile store today, activate/pick up a SIM for $10, and spend another $3 for the daily pay-as-you-go plan. 200MB for $3 isn't bad if you need it in a pinch...
I've heard of these issues, does it happen if you stay in the same spot? Have you tried different modes in the *#*#4636#*#* menu other than "WCDMA Preferred"?
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yes i tryed evrything, sprint does block domestic carriers, sucksssssssss ughhh.

[Q] Can a rooted Sprint work on att

ok can you use a Sprint HTC One on the ATT network if you unlock remove simlock and all that jazz? Or is there a fundamental hardware difference?

bongo264 said:
ok can you use a Sprint HTC One on the ATT network if you unlock remove simlock and all that jazz? Or is there a fundamental hardware difference?
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Yes but u will be limited to an extent. You will not have access to all their 3g and 4g areas
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The reason I asked was because I thought it was a multimode phone.

No you can't, Sprint hard blocks their phones to prevent you from using it on any other US carrier.

CNexus said:
No you can't, Sprint hard blocks their phones to prevent you from using it on any other US carrier.
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I've had success with using tmobile with calls and data(5mb/s). It picked up the att network too, but I've never tried.

Tazdeviloo7 said:
I've had success with using tmobile with calls and data(5mb/s). It picked up the att network too, but I've never tried.
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Interesting, I was going by the information in this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2415587
And I assumed that Sprint did it to all their phones because it would be odd to just hard block a single model.

I have unlocked mine but have had no luck connecting to att when putting my att sim in
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You can sim unlock the Sprint One and use it per this article.
This model of the One supports Sprint's 3G (CDMA 800/850/1900) and LTE (1900 only) networks, along with GSM/EDGE on 850/900/1800/1900 and HSPA 14.4 on the 1900 and 2100MHz bands. That means this phone will roam internationally at 3G speeds. In theory, you could unlock it to work poorly on AT&T's and T-Mobile's networks, but it wouldn't be able to take advantage of fast speeds on either.
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I have HTC one unlocked by Sprint and Galaxy S4 unlocked with DFS tool. Neither can get any signal from ATT or Tmobile including all the MVNO.
Lycamobile sim card will show "Roaming" with HTC one, but it keeps dropping. Dev said Sprint blocked MNC/MCC of ATT/Tmobile.

I can get on T-Mobile fine, never tried AT&T but it would also depend on the frequency that is in use in your market. Regarding the Sprint GS4, the unlock method out for it will only unlock for international only, while the unlock on HTC is a true unlock and will work as long as the bands are compatible.

I have a t-mobile sim in right now my area has hspa on 1900 so I use that for higher speed data than sprint 3G then switch the mode to cdma for voice
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jesmann said:
I have a t-mobile sim in right now my area has hspa on 1900 so I use that for higher speed data than sprint 3G then switch the mode to cdma for voice
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After you've done the unlock for the Sim, can you see the other available networks while the Sprint sim is still installed or do you have to remove the Sprint Sim and install a T-Mobile or ATT sim for it to be able to "see" other networks??

Aerostar601 said:
After you've done the unlock for the Sim, can you see the other available networks while the Sprint sim is still installed or do you have to remove the Sprint Sim and install a T-Mobile or ATT sim for it to be able to "see" other networks??
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Only one sim slot and haven't tried. In Settings>mobile data>network mode you can select CDMA only and see Sprint 3G with either SIM in, LTE/CDMA will give Sprint voice with other SIM and Sprint 3G and/or LTE data only if Sprint SIM card in. GSM/UMTS only can only be selected if a GSM sim is inserted if I recall correctly. The GSM options including search networks are only available on that mode.

It would be cool if I could use T-Mobile's 3G for data and Sprint's CDMA for voice. Is this possible?

El_Colombiano said:
It would be cool if I could use T-Mobile's 3G for data and Sprint's CDMA for voice. Is this possible?
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I do not think so not without manually switching the modes on and off. The moment you select the T-Mobile network your voice & phone number will switch to whatever is registered on the T-Mobile sim.

im0rtalz said:
I do not think so not without manually switching the modes on and off. The moment you select the T-Mobile network your voice & phone number will switch to whatever is registered on the T-Mobile sim.
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Correct however if you have your sprint number integrated with Google Voice you can use apps like Talkatone or GrooveIP for calls via VoIP while on Tmobile data.
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jesmann said:
Correct however if you have your sprint number integrated with Google Voice you can use apps like Talkatone or GrooveIP for calls via VoIP while on Tmobile data.
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I like the way you think.