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Best way to wipe phone between roms

I have a rooted cdma sprint hero and i hear every once in a while that there are some left over stuff that may cause problems with new roms. Now i was wondering what would be the best way to wipe to make sure that there is nothing left over from previous roms.
This is what i do;
1 back up pics and music from sd card
2 format sd card
3 put new rom on sd
4 flash into recovery
5 wipe all that i can cache devalk (sp) etc
6 Run moduler remover
7 Falsh rom
8 Flash kernal
I was also wondering if doing this removes any kernal that i have put on there or am i just adding them on top of each other?
Sorry for such a noob question but i would really like to make sure that my phone is running how the guys making these roms intend them to run

You're being real thorough for sure! LOL! I just boot into recovery and wipe dalvik, cache and ext. I t really depends on how different the new ROM is, as incompatible files are the problem.

Sorry for putting in the wrong thread i wasn't where i thought i was and im not sure i am where i thunk i am. if this needs to be moved feel free

Switching between ROMs all you have to do is wipe data/factory reset and wipe dalvik cache. That's it. No need to reformat your SD card..

what about if you use ap2sd?

Looks as if wiping/resetting the device directly from Fastboot is starting to become fairly popular as well. May want to give that a go...
-Reboot to Fastboot
-Wipe/reset
-Reboot to Recovery
-Flash ROM/Kernel
-Reboot device

Neo31697 said:
what about if you use ap2sd?
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If you use apps2sd, that's what wipe ext is for. I actually forgot to include that in my previous post.

wow didn't know that thanks

Just making sure, you're talking about apps2ext, right? Not the built-in froyo version aka apps2fat?

Yes I am not running froyo ... yet
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Since the topic is up I have a question on my own. Are all the wipes necessary when I flash one rom and then nand restore to another?

I just Nandroid, flash and pray the new ROM works I may do a Dalvik wipe now and again. Fingers crossed I have had no problems so far, except when I figured there would be one

Krazy_Talk said:
Since the topic is up I have a question on my own. Are all the wipes necessary when I flash one rom and then nand restore to another?
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See my post above...Some do, I don't, and the last few days I have flashed, Nand, reflashed new ROMS, themes, etc while messing with CM6.1 and have not even done a Dalvik wipe...that's just my style though Is it necessary? I would say no, others would say yes...
However, I do have a collection of working ROMS on my SD from Nand all set up the same way that were done correctly (i.e. proper wipe, etc.) with different themes I can go back to if need be.

[Q] don't have stock backup

I have been reading for days and days. i am a noobie and i hope i don't try anybodies patience. I have not been able to find a basic enough answer to my possible delima. I rooted my captivate installed titanium backup and rom manager. I then flashed cwm and was successful. so I down loaded cognition to my computer and put it on my sd card. I turned off my phone took out my sim card and external sd card. i turned the phone back on in recovery mode and I wiped all, then got into cwm and installed cognition. It is great, but i am worried about when it degrades over time and i get the itch again to flash my rom that i made a grave mistake. i am pretty sure that i don't have a stock backup to go to before my next flash and if i download one from the internet then it won't be rooted and i will have to go through the whole process all over. i do have a backup of cog v3.04 on my sd. I wil want to flash another rom pretty soon but don't quite know how to proceed but am tempted to just do the same process i did to put cog on,(put the zip file on my sd and manually boot into recovery get into cwm and install new rom zip. any help would be appreciated. thanks in advance.

It is easy, and you never have to root again.
You have a file on your sd
update.zip
As long as you have this on your sd you can get into clockwork. When on stock just get into recovery and reinstall packages twice
To get back to stock you need to use odin. depending on your build number determines which odin is best. Build number can be located under the battery, something like 1008
Flashing stock is not as needed as some say. I have flashed several roms without going back to stock.
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thanks for fast reply
wow that was fast, i should have posted days ago,all of that reading was running my head around in circles. Just one more question. If i use odin don't i lose root. I also have read many warnings about flashing custom roms without returning to stock, but logically that makes me think i would have to root the stock rom every time before flashing the new rom. Maybe thats a dumb question but i am just trying to be careful and delay my first softbrick experience. thanks again.

Saving the update.zip gives you clockwork recovery without root. You can flash another rom straight from there.
With the new kernels that are out flashing stock is not needed as the built in recovers understand ext 4. I flash stock occasionally for no real reason. If I am making a major change like going from js3 base to armani base I tend to flash stock, if for no other reason piece of mind
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Flashing over a rom?

So im wondering, what is the standard practise, or based on your own experiences. What is the best way to flash over an existing rom using CWM? What do you do to prepare the fone for new rom, wipe user data, dalvik cache, before or after flashing. Just trying to get a good idea of how to do it.
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going from rom to rom:
put rom.zip on /sdcard/
reboot to recovery
install zip from sdcard
point to rom.zip
flash
reboot
any rom that has been properly done will wipe user data and dalvik cache for you. no need to do it manually

i always flash back to eclair and master clear with odin one click to make sure all files from previous roms are gone then CWM flash new ROM

Pirateghost said:
going from rom to rom:
put rom.zip on /sdcard/
reboot to recovery
install zip from sdcard
point to rom.zip
flash
reboot
any rom that has been properly done will wipe user data and dalvik cache for you. no need to do it manually
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+1
Except I do clear the caches manually, but that's just because I have OCD.

CremeFraiche said:
i always flash back to eclair and master clear with odin one click to make sure all files from previous roms are gone then CWM flash new ROM
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lets look at the master clear function shall we?
when you flash to stock...your entire / is stock (RFS, eclair 2.1, /data /system, etc)
essentially, you have just reformatted your root, think of it like formatting your C drive and your sdcard is like a secondary internal drive that contains storage
master clear at this point will only delete items off your /sdcard
roms dont care about your /sdcard, master clear is worthless when you are stock
there was a time where it was necessary to flash to stock to reset the filesystem and then flash the rom. it has not been needed in months, but it continues to get preached as gospel.
even flashing to stock isnt necessary unless you are trying to come from CM7 or MIUI....or if something goes horribly wrong

Thx for info guys, I have flashed a few times and it seemed like now and then my fone must became bogged down and needed to be fully wiped, sound didnt work or lagfix folders bunch of text docs, just seemed cluttered. So if wanted to really clear out junk what would be a good way without having to flash back to stock?
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Just flash. If you have a problem then back to stock Ans a MC. I have flashed hundreds of time back to stock once.
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Pirateghost said:
lets look at the master clear function shall we?
when you flash to stock...your entire / is stock (RFS, eclair 2.1, /data /system, etc)
essentially, you have just reformatted your root, think of it like formatting your C drive and your sdcard is like a secondary internal drive that contains storage
master clear at this point will only delete items off your /sdcard
roms dont care about your /sdcard, master clear is worthless when you are stock
there was a time where it was necessary to flash to stock to reset the filesystem and then flash the rom. it has not been needed in months, but it continues to get preached as gospel.
even flashing to stock isnt necessary unless you are trying to come from CM7 or MIUI....or if something goes horribly wrong
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I would definitely agree. I have also seen people say to disable lagfix before flashing. I have not done that either and never had any problem.

Would just like to amend the advice already given with the following:
Pre-flashing:
1. Titanium Backup of apps and data
2. Nandroid backup in case something goes boom.
Post-flashing (assuming success):
TB restore of user apps/data only. NEVER RESTORE SYSTEM FILES.
They may not apply to some people, but I feel those are necessary steps for anyone that actually uses their phone daily.

modest_mandroid said:
Would just like to amend the advice already given with the following:
Pre-flashing:
1. Titanium Backup of apps and data
2. Nandroid backup in case something goes boom.
Post-flashing (assuming success):
TB restore of user apps/data only. NEVER RESTORE SYSTEM FILES.
They may not apply to some people, but I feel those are necessary steps for anyone that actually uses their phone daily.
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why not restore system files? Does this apply if coming from flashing back to stock first, or just flashing from one rom to another?
Glad to hear the advice about not flashing back to stock, that's been one of the major reasons I haven't flashed quite as many rom's as I want, too time consuming.........not to say that i'm not flashing a couple rom's a week, but there's just so many options to try

neophile said:
why not restore system files? Does this apply if coming from flashing back to stock first, or just flashing from one rom to another?
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Making "search" a standard practice would be very helpful.
Restoring system is known to mess up ROMs in all cases. Though may not be mandatory, but make it a standard practice to flash stock. Takes hardly 10 mins, and helps save big headaches later.

neophile said:
why not restore system files? Does this apply if coming from flashing back to stock first, or just flashing from one rom to another?
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Incompatibilities across rom versions, mostly. As the guy above me said, restoring system files tends to mess up a rom because you are overwriting part of it with files from a different rom.
There is one caveat, however. If you're flashing back to a rom you originally performed the backup on, you can safely restore system files. For example, if you were running Cog 4.3 and did a full TB backup, then decided to flash Serendipity 6.3, you would want to restore only your user apps and user data. However, if you decided to flash back to Cog 4.3 at some point, you could do a full TB restore without worrying about incompatibilities.

I agree with everyone else. Flashing over another rom seldom causes issues. I make s nandroid backup of my favorite rom with everything setup the way i like it. then flash away trying different roms. When i am done, i just restore my backup and all is good!

I have done a search, couldn't find the specific answer I needed, hence my asking. Could be I wasn't phrasing the search correctly......but here I am.....
To clarify, what do you dpo to get your system settings back after flashing a new rom? I flashed to serendipty 6.4 last night, as per the advice, I didn't restore system files, just apps and data, but that didn't work so well for me. I lost my data connection, could only use my wifi, and had no contacts, or any sms msgs. I don't know what else was missing, but I then went and restored system files, everything came back as needed, and there seems to be no issue......
How do I get my info setting back, or do I just need to manually re-set everything after flashing? Apart from wireless info, msgs and contacts, what else do you lose by not restoring?
Appreciate your help

havent flashed a new rom in a while and forgot if anything extra was needed when flashing a rom over a rom
thx!

Missing Sms!

i first of all , i have an alltel. 3 months ago i was running CM7 i had no problems with the rom! i decided to get back to a sense Rom. i found Wildheroc 2.1 i flashed it. i notice i kept missing sms! and didn't detect my carrier! so i flashed back to CM7 (the same one) and i started to miss sms with that Rom too? then i found the new sense Rom from yesterday i flashed it last night, same results. i think somehow i messed up my phone from flashing back and forth! can anyone help me?

Try flashing back to stock using the HTC RUU. see if you still miss texts. If not, then go back to CM7 or whatever rom you want with Z4root.

try doing a full wipe and full format( wipe data,cashe and dalvic, mounts and storage, format boot,cashe,system and data you know the routine) do a full wipe again, yes do it again then reflash your rom, you should be ok after that.
i do know theres been alot of issues with the wildheroc's mms and sms. BTW, What kernel are you running ??? Just curious

Dragoon0309 said:
Try flashing back to stock using the HTC RUU. see if you still miss texts. If not, then go back to CM7 or whatever rom you want with Z4root.
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Alright thanks for the help.

drlzanej said:
try doing a full wipe and full format( wipe data,cashe and dalvic, mounts and storage, format boot,cashe,system and data you know the routine) do a full wipe again, yes do it again then reflash your rom, you should be ok after that.
i do know theres been alot of issues with the wildheroc's mms and sms. BTW, What kernel are you running ??? Just curious
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alright I'll let you know how it goes. Kernel 2.6.35

Just let us know

Full Wipe
I used the Caulkin's wipe all and it seemed then reflashed to wildheroc and that correct my missing sms.
FWIW

cool, glad you got it worked out, later man

[Q] CWM Restores a perfect restore?

I was wondering how perfect of a restore a CWM restore is.
I was running a custom GB ROM (rocket rom to be exact) and it was running flawlessly. I then decided I might try this new CM9 ICS ROM.
So to be sure about the CM9 install, I figure I'd install from a stock GB Rom. So I first did a CWM backup of my current rocket rom and then I restored an older stock (rooted) ROM. It seemed to work fine. Then.... after reading about the (few) issues wit this new CM9 rom I decided I'd wait a bit longer until a few more of the quirks are worked out.
So I then restored back my Rocket rom backup and even doing the flash cache and davik cache also. But now I notice my once working Rocket ROM is experiencing a lot of SODs.
So now I'm wondering how perfect my restore was. I really don't have a lot of apps or wireless networks and can easily restore my contact list. For that reason, do you think it'll help if I do a factory reset wipe and then reinstall everytyhing....or even go so far as reinstall rocket rom and then reinstall everything else manually without any restores...would that be really the best clean install....or would any of this not make a difference at all and wiping/reinstall a toatl waste of time and my prob is actuaully something else....
Thanks

I could do with knowing the answer to these questions too.
It would be good to get a detailed idiots guide to CWM, do's and don't's etc.

Well a clean install will surely get you rid of the SODs. There is some app and its data that is conflicting with the system and crashes the whole phone. So if you are ready to clean install everything that will fix everything

abhisahara said:
Well a clean install will surely get you rid of the SODs. There is some app and its data that is conflicting with the system and crashes the whole phone. So if you are ready to clean install everything that will fix everything
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Sorry for the noob question.... what are SOD's?

adrok76 said:
Sorry for the noob question.... what are SOD's?
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sleep of death, its the device not waking up properly from sleep

Pus it doesnt include efs, so its not complete backup. Handy if yu stay n same rom version, but thats likely not.
Squicky clean install is always best. Even only app and data recovering thought titanium can mess things up. Make it laggy and nonfunctional etc, Blegh
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1. Install abyssnote42
2. Factory wipe, cache, dalvik
3. Restore your rocketrom backup
That's what i do with my rocketrom v23 backup
Zapped through server hops to XDA forums

its not perfect but its the best so far
all i can say is that cwm is the best and simple thing for me so far and if u get trouble some times while trying to shift from CM9 to normal ics or from gb to ics all I suggest is use redpill recovery from abbysnote

Richy99 said:
sleep of death, its the device not waking up properly from sleep
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Yeah, mine does that from the clock on Dragon ICS 2.4 when charging it didn't use to, started since I started Dual Booting. 2.5 is out in the next hour or so according to the Dev page. Hope it fixes an otherwise awesome ROM.. Otherwise it's back to single booting and possibly on to Omega 12 until CheckROM is released..