I live in the USA, using AT&T, and is shopping around for Galaxy S phone. The Captivate is the obvious choice under the Galaxy S flag. I just noticed the Galaxy S Vibrant from Canada today and I am really interested in it, especially because of the front facing camera.
How would I go about purchasing it? How would I get it working under the AT&T carrier? How is Edge, 3G, and voice, etc? How would future rom updates be installed? What are the down sides to buying the Vibrant versus a local Captivate?
Thanks
I have a Bell GS and on Bell it works great. Though after a firmware upgrade yesterday is is acting a bit wonky, might have to do reset.
To use it on ATT in the US you would have to buy it outright from Bell or other brick and mortar store that carry Bell phones. ie. Best Buy/FutureShop.
There is an unlock app for GS's and supposedly works on the Bell I9000, haven't tried it myself, no need atm. This will allow you to use a ATT sim card in the phone.
To update, you can use Samsung kies, supposedly what they will be using to push updates to GS, you can get that from samsungs web site. From what I have found so far you need to be in the touch wiz launcher to use kies. only matters if you use 3rd party launchers.
Not sure how the FFC will work for you. That might be dependant on ATT?
Your best bet, if you decide to get one. ROOT and make it your *****!
It would be 100% compatible on AT&T's network. In fact, it's even more compatible because Bell doesn't have a 2G network you can switch to to save battery life.
ROM updates come officially through Kies like normal, although you should also be able to flash most international i9000 ROMs you see floating around here, just make sure before doing so. Flashing a Captivate ROM just because you're on AT&T is a surefire way to brick your phone.
To buy it you will likely need to use something like eBay because even if you purchase it outright almost every store won't let you leave unless you have existing service with Bell. You can unlock it for free though with the method that I am sure is detailed on the Android Development board somewhere.
The obvious downside to buying Bell's Galaxy S is it comes at full retail price (over $500 Canadian) and in all likelihood you're probably going to get a model with the three button download/recovery modes disabled, making flashing ROMs risky. Hold out until the end of this month to see if Samsung Canada announces more about their promised fix for this.
I am using one on AT&T as well and it works fine. Best part is that AT&T doesn't force you on their limited smartphone plans and you can put it on a cheaper unlimited plan.
I got mine in a trade for a BB Torch but you can find one on eBay or maybe talk to a Canadian member here to see about picking one up for you. I would suggest you have them check for the 3 button recovery to make sure it's working before they buy it though.
The downside is warranty issues if it breaks but as long as the 3 button recovery works you should be able to recover from a bad flash and the hardware seems pretty solid so far so no worries there.
Based on the responses, I am definitely going with the Bell/Canadian Vibrant. The only trouble I have now is just finding one to purchase.
How do I post my intentions here to let people that I want one? Who is a reliable dealer here?
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GH
the bell ones got both 850 and 1900 bands?
Also does it have a bell logo on it or is it unbranded.
send me a PM if you want to buy a Bell SGS with 3 button working tested, and GPS tested before mailing it to your address of choice.
BuddyLee said:
the bell ones got both 850 and 1900 bands?
Also does it have a bell logo on it or is it unbranded.
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It is unbranded
3 button mode is enabled again with latest firmware
Epic 4G (used as 3G on Bell / Rogers)
Hello,
I am interested exactly the opposite: I want to buy an Epic from Sprint (with no contract) and to use it in Canada (on Bell or Rogers) but only with a data plan, no voice (as I will use the SIP / VOIP). If Bell or Rogers offers only data plan, should this phone (Epic) works out of the box (or with the unlocking code) on the 3G network of Bell / Rogers, simply inserting their SIM card into the phone?
catalinu said:
Hello,
I am interested exactly the opposite: I want to buy an Epic from Sprint (with no contract) and to use it in Canada (on Bell or Rogers) but only with a data plan, no voice (as I will use the SIP / VOIP). If Bell or Rogers offers only data plan, should this phone (Epic) works out of the box (or with the unlocking code) on the 3G network of Bell / Rogers, simply inserting their SIM card into the phone?
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the sprint version is CDMA, chances are it's CDMA locked to sprint
CDMA unlocking is done on the server side, is not on the phone like GSM
you need to register your CDMA IMEI number to the say... Bell or Telus, if they see it on their server it's allowed they will let you in, if they see it listed as not allowed then they wont register the phone into their (Telus/Bell) CDMA network
garyHal said:
I live in the USA, using AT&T, and is shopping around for Galaxy S phone. The Captivate is the obvious choice under the Galaxy S flag. I just noticed the Galaxy S Vibrant from Canada today and I am really interested in it, especially because of the front facing camera.
How would I go about purchasing it? How would I get it working under the AT&T carrier? How is Edge, 3G, and voice, etc? How would future rom updates be installed? What are the down sides to buying the Vibrant versus a local Captivate?
Thanks
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I use it on Rogers network and it works great. No problem so far.
AllGamer said:
the sprint version is CDMA, chances are it's CDMA locked to sprint
CDMA unlocking is done on the server side, is not on the phone like GSM
you need to register your CDMA IMEI number to the say... Bell or Telus, if they see it on their server it's allowed they will let you in, if they see it listed as not allowed then they wont register the phone into their (Telus/Bell) CDMA network
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Thanks for your answer.
I am not a tech, but the 4G/3G is also depending on CDMA? Or CDMA concerns only voice? Is it 4G/3G a standard (the same on Sprint and Bell and Rogers) that doesn't depend neither on CDMA or GSM?
we don't have 4G support yet in Canada
CDMA is for voice, but if you can not register the phone in the network for voice, you will also not get access to data
to have data you must have a voice connection
not a phone requirement but a phone network carrier requirement
Thanks.
Anyway, I checked right now with Bell and Rogers and no one offers only data plan... But what they will do with iPad and Galaxy Tab that doesn't support voice, but only data? If I will take the SIM out the gTab and put in a phone (Epic or Vibrant or Captivate), will the phone be able to work on 3G?
catalinu said:
Thanks.
Anyway, I checked right now with Bell and Rogers and no one offers only data plan... But what they will do with iPad and Galaxy Tab that doesn't support voice, but only data? If I will take the SIM out the gTab and put in a phone (Epic or Vibrant or Captivate), will the phone be able to work on 3G?
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Tab is a Cell phone, just gigantic! one at that LOL
you can make phone calls with Samsung Tab, just like the Apple iTab... ipad i mean
AllGamer said:
Tab is a Cell phone, just gigantic! one at that LOL
you can make phone calls with Samsung Tab, just like the Apple iTab... ipad i mean
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Yes, but if Bell already sells the dataonly plan for iPad, why they don't sell a dataonly plan also for a smartphone?
because they can claim a Tab is "not a phone" (whatever...)
and a Galaxy is a "phone"
garyHal said:
I live in the USA, using AT&T, and is shopping around for Galaxy S phone. The Captivate is the obvious choice under the Galaxy S flag. I just noticed the Galaxy S Vibrant from Canada today and I am really interested in it, especially because of the front facing camera.
How would I go about purchasing it? How would I get it working under the AT&T carrier? How is Edge, 3G, and voice, etc? How would future rom updates be installed? What are the down sides to buying the Vibrant versus a local Captivate?
Thanks
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I currently have a I9000 and am on ATT's network in southern california. I'm all but satisfied since my coverage is poor indoors and in some areas because of the lack of 850 band support.
I'm looking to move instead to the I9000M from Bell to get the added 850 3g coverage. Were you able to get a phone, root, unlock it and upgrade to froyo 2.2? Can you tell me about your experience so far including testing for 3-button boot into recovery? Where and how much you got the phone for out-the-door? Thanks.
Sorry mate, still waiting on mine, can't believe its been a month. An xda member here indicated that the stores in Canada are out of stock for awhile now.
I have a t-mobile galaxy tab that I am now using on Att, I installed the newest overcome rom, have been trying different modems but so far cannot seem to be able to get 3g to work. To clarify I am using att sim card in a att 3g area. Is there a specific modem to achieve this or some settings I need to set?
My t-mobile vibrant that is unlocked, works perfectly fine with the same att sim and I get 3g, can make calls and use data simultaneously.
Have you gone through your vpn settings?
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I have checked the APN settings and everything looks the same as what is set on my vibrant that is getting 3g.
I understand there ARE hardware differences between AT&T and T-Mo versions. As a result....only Edge on T-Mo network with AT&T tab....and only Edge on AT&T network with T-Mo tab.
I know...sux!
Oh, I was hoping that the hardware was just the same and the software was different on each carrier, like each one only enabled certain frequencies. Especially since the Vibrant is able to get 3g with At&t.
Big differences in the radios. They are compatible on each others voice frequencies, but they don't have the correct data frequencies.
what are your apn settings to make the att sim work and get data??
I flashed overcome v2.0.0 gold on my tmobile tab and flashed the jk3 modem for att... is that the modem I need to flash to work with at&t? I only get voice and 2G only. Someone said maybe I need to flash jpz modem? would that get 3g data on my tmobile tab with at&t sim?
I give up. What's the point of posting accurate information if people won't read it?
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I give up. What's the point of posting accurate information if people won't read it?
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Standing right beside you Captain.
I feel sad Cap, the crush on galaxy tab made me buy a Tmo TAB and I am a ATT user. I just want to sell my current one and get a ATT to enable 3G data...damn...
I have two tabs: the t-mobile tab I first bought, and the at&t tab I bought after I learned.
Hi,
I just came back up from the states for vacation and I was using my galaxy s roaming. It was working perfectly fine down there but when I came back up to Canada, my phone couldn't connect to Bell. It sees rogers and I connect to it for "SOS calling only" but it can't find the Bell networks. Any help?
Thanks
What modem are you running? Also did something happen to your APN settings?
Swyped from a galaxy far far away.
I'm using JL2 and am on MIUI. My APN settings are still there. The exact same as before.
You must be on a different modem than jl2 because it has roaming issues in the states, that's why they released KC1.
Swyped from a galaxy far far away.
Well, when i was in the states, i was on kc1 but when i came back up, i noticed that i couldn't connect to Bell. I thought that flashing to JC2 may help but it didn't.
In perkas file stash app there are 850 enabled modems and there is a kc1 modem there you could try. It Is cwm flashable also.
Swyped from a galaxy far far away.
I'm pretty sure its not the modem. I've already flashed multiple that are confirmed to work on Bell and have the 850 frequency.
I did have a problem one or two times after flashing a new rom and then our modem and it didn't work right away, but eventually it worked fine. Maybe if you give it some time it may work. Are you in a 1900 band area or 850 only?
Swyped from a galaxy far far away.
I live in a pretty big city so I would guess that I would have both frequencies. The phones been in this state for a good 24 hours now so I don't think waitings going to help. Do you think it may have something to do with the SIM?
It is possible that there is a problem with the sim. They aren't indestructible. You could try someone else's sim.
Swyped from a galaxy far far away.
Hey,
if i buy the captivate is it able to be useable in germany? I think it have to 'cause it's quadband but i'm not sure. And i have to unlock it, or? (AT&T)
thx
no answer?
unlock it, Otherwise you would HAVE to use at&t and the bill would be rediculous. If the carrier's bandwith isn't on 1900 you will not be able to connect to 3g. So 2g might be the fastest you will get without wifi.
Might want to check out a galaxy S I9000, that is the international version of the galaxy S line.
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Might want to check out a galaxy S I9000, that is the international version of the galaxy S line.
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+1 The captivate is a crippled At&t version of the i9000
Only thing crippled about it lack of a secondary camera and rear flash. HSUPA isn't a big deal in ATT since most don't have unlimited data, and we do have the audience chip I9000 does not. BUT to OP yes check I9000 might server you better.
Hi,
I have a Samsung Galaxy Note GT-N7000.
Can someone tell me if it's possible to flash a Tmobile Radio Modem to get Tmobile USA 3G/4G/HSPA+?
I know it's been confirmed that an AT&T Galaxy Not i717 will work with Tmobile 4G/HSPA+ if it's properly flashed with Tmobile modem.
Has anyone tried the method like this link below but flashed to an GT-N7000 (International Version):
http://rootgalaxynote.com/galaxy-no...e-3g4g-hspa-on-your-att-galaxy-note-sgh-i717/
Please help because I don't want to take the risk to brick my Note N7000.
TIA
Does not work. Tmo in usa is limited to 2g only except in tiny pockets where tmo has installed the frequencies used by att on their own network. This is supposedly mostly for iphone users on tmo, and may be extended. But aside from these tiny pockets, 2g ONLY.
http://www.airportal.de/
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hmm N7000 and the I717 have totally different hardware radios and other internal stuffs....
I think 2G means EDGE. Flashing Tmo modem on an unlock N7000 'might' work in receiving 3G/4G HSPA* but it might a the end of the day, change back to Edge again....
What that guy on your video showed is he can get 4G signals on Tmo but the big question on that is... is it always persistent throughout at the end of the day (that his phone can get the real thing?)
My take, don't install something that's only a temporary fix if it just means temporary only....